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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Then why is it that neither the majority of the nation nor blacks share your view?

Several points here. The first being you imply that ALL blacks feel the same way about every subject and you are just plain wrongo! Next, who is nuts? Is it us or is it YOU?!?
"Majority" - just another English word Birfoons can't comprehend
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Flash. Oily loses again. This time it was her ObamaCare debacle
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/114369912
What a surprise. And yet birthers were so sure on this one. What's the score now, as I've lost count. 161-0 or 171-0. Yet, the birthers strut around, victorious, just like the Detroit Tigers ha ha.
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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Please tell me, tell us all, how it is that I don't understand what being an American is. Do you find it very "American" for AL to be quoting anti-American articles from anti-Americanb Pravda and from this, how do you then conclude that "American Lady is just fine?".
What part of my first sentence did you not comprehend? Do you not understand, "you do not and never will understand"? Your post confirms your lack of understanding! LOL
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Black vote Obama/Rlomney : 91 to 9. Would you not conclude from this result thaty pretty much ALL blacks share this view?
It's a shame "that" many blacks are racist. Just a shame.

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Approaching 20 states that will refuse to setup health exchanges. Who will pay for it.......the remaining states or the Feds. Either way, you'll pay for it. And talk about costs soaring! Why that will be like a huge tax hike for ya. There is only one reason we have this screwed up OmamaCare......EGO. And our country doesn't work that way. Omama is a public servant. He would do well to remember that.
Yep, no matter how you cut the mustard, the middle class gets the bill.
You money for nothing, and your chicks for free!
I want my, I want my, I want my MTV!
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"Majority" - just another English word Birfoons can't comprehend
"Conned" - just another word Flappers can't comprehend.
"Taken In" - " "
"Been Had" - " "
"Snookered" - " "
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It's a shame "that" many blacks are racist. Just a shame.
How the tables have turned. From being kidnapped in black Africa, transported in floating hovel death traps where hardly 2/3 survived, sold in bondage and mistreated and killed indiscriminately, and, even after the emancipation proclamation, continued to live a life of servitude, lynched at will by ignorant and racist southerners, low wages and not even allowed to enlist in the armed forces until 1942, and in segregated units only, to be allowed to play the national sport (my *ss) baseball in 1948 only and, until the 60s, but a smarting of black congressmen and senators. And don't come back with "mind your own business" or "I don't know what it is to be an American". Irrelevant, what I wrote is history, all true. And may I add, you're not alone, blacks and other minorities have not faired much better worldwide, with American blacks perhaps being the best treated in the world in 2012 - which is not saying all that much.

And you come out with the phrase " many blacks are racist"?. Well, maybe they have a good reason and it's about time, don't you think?
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Slopuke, tell us all why you boast of Omammie's re-election as if it's some sort of personal achievement for you? It's simple question even a 3rd grader could answer. Coward. If you'd like to try and shove my nose in it then come on down pollock. LMAO
It's still stuck to his nose and he can't smell his own excrement.
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<quoted text>Grow up Sonny. It's not about me. It's about shoving your nose in it, Mr. Laughs Like a Hyena.
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How the tables have turned. From being kidnapped in black Africa, transported in floating hovel death traps where hardly 2/3 survived, sold in bondage and mistreated and killed indiscriminately, and, even after the emancipation proclamation, continued to live a life of servitude, lynched at will by ignorant and racist southerners, low wages and not even allowed to enlist in the armed forces until 1942, and in segregated units only, to be allowed to play the national sport (my *ss) baseball in 1948 only and, until the 60s, but a smarting of black congressmen and senators. And don't come back with "mind your own business" or "I don't know what it is to be an American". Irrelevant, what I wrote is history, all true. And may I add, you're not alone, blacks and other minorities have not faired much better worldwide, with American blacks perhaps being the best treated in the world in 2012 - which is not saying all that much.
And you come out with the phrase " many blacks are racist"?. Well, maybe they have a good reason and it's about time, don't you think?
Slavery has been around since the beginning of civilization. It was practiced long before America ever existed. Your point? You just want to blame America. As much as you don't like it jacqazz you'll never understand what it is to be an American. Sorry but those are the facts! And you're the one that posted the black vote numbers, not me! LMAO!!!

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How the tables have turned. From being kidnapped in black Africa, transported in floating hovel death traps where hardly 2/3 survived, sold in bondage and mistreated and killed indiscriminately, and, even after the emancipation proclamation, continued to live a life of servitude, lynched at will by ignorant and racist southerners, low wages and not even allowed to enlist in the armed forces until 1942, and in segregated units only, to be allowed to play the national sport (my *ss) baseball in 1948 only and, until the 60s, but a smarting of black congressmen and senators. And don't come back with "mind your own business" or "I don't know what it is to be an American". Irrelevant, what I wrote is history, all true. And may I add, you're not alone, blacks and other minorities have not faired much better worldwide, with American blacks perhaps being the best treated in the world in 2012 - which is not saying all that much.
And you come out with the phrase " many blacks are racist"?. Well, maybe they have a good reason and it's about time, don't you think?
Most people would agree that slavery is an abomination. And racism is also. But you seem to think that revers racism is okay. Why? Racism is racism and all it does is promote more racism
When I joined the Army I wanted to fly medivac and I did from 1975-77 in Hawaii. But in 1980 when I wanted to go on to another medivac assignment I was told no.
You see, female Army pilots could not fly combat missions so they were taking up many of the medivac slots so the Army told me I could go to a Cobra assignment. Yep, if you are going to be an Army aviator, you should be able to accept ANY pilot assignment. I was not interested in flying attack helicopters but I was able to get into Chinooks where I spent my last nine years in the Army.
So, it does not matter if you are a female or black or, etc., when you are given priority assignment over non-females, non-blacks, etc. it is still wrong!!!
But you progressives believe in SOCIAL justice which is not real justice because if promotes reverse discrimination! YOU are the racists and the sexists!

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My father was a devout Catholic but as the Deputy Director of URC (FAA management school)(1988-91) at Palm Coast, FA he hired two GAY instructors. Oooooo, but, but, but those Catholics are homo-phobes!!!
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Slavery has been around since the beginning of civilization. It was practiced long before America ever existed. Your point? You just want to blame America. As much as you don't like it jacqazz you'll never understand what it is to be an American. Sorry but those are the facts! And you're the one that posted the black vote numbers, not me! LMAO!!!
Is it possible that you could be so clueless? Does slavery being around since the beginning of civilization justify American slavery, or any slavery at ANY time in history? How is that not knowing what an American really is? I've touched on slavery in the U.S. and elsewhere in my posts, and in the last one, and it is immoral and inhuman no matter where it happened or happens. What does slavery being around forever have to do with blacks not being able to enlist or play the national sport? And yes, been a hard road for blacks, but they are perhaps better treated and understood in the U.S. than anywhere else. Disreguard that if you wish, it's your way.

I just want to blame America? I love the U.S. But facts are facts. No nation, including yours, is exempt from criticism. If I say Germany started two world wars, does that make me anti-German? Got it? Your kind of defence is simply denial, else, quit the anti-American BS and tell me if what I claimed is history or not.

The black vote number was in response to one of Rogue's ridiculous claims.
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Most people would agree that slavery is an abomination. And racism is also. But you seem to think that revers racism is okay. Why? Racism is racism and all it does is promote more racism
When I joined the Army I wanted to fly medivac and I did from 1975-77 in Hawaii. But in 1980 when I wanted to go on to another medivac assignment I was told no.
You see, female Army pilots could not fly combat missions so they were taking up many of the medivac slots so the Army told me I could go to a Cobra assignment. Yep, if you are going to be an Army aviator, you should be able to accept ANY pilot assignment. I was not interested in flying attack helicopters but I was able to get into Chinooks where I spent my last nine years in the Army.
So, it does not matter if you are a female or black or, etc., when you are given priority assignment over non-females, non-blacks, etc. it is still wrong!!!
But you progressives believe in SOCIAL justice which is not real justice because if promotes reverse discrimination! YOU are the racists and the sexists!
I never said that reverse racism is OK. Please show where I did.

As to the women aviators not being able to fly combat missions, okay, fine, and you were therefore not able to take a medivac post, well, Rogue, who drafted that policy? Men? You betcha. Since you stopped flying for the military, women have had a bigger say in policies and can now fly combat, though why they would fight to be more easily killed is beyond me. Their business, I guess, not mine.

Well-administered social justice is THE thing, Rogue. You don't blame city council for installing traffic lights just because some fools run red lights and kill and maim pedestrians or other motorists.
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My father was a devout Catholic but as the Deputy Director of URC (FAA management school)(1988-91) at Palm Coast, FA he hired two GAY instructors. Oooooo, but, but, but those Catholics are homo-phobes!!!
Rogue, please show us who labelled Catholics homophobes here in Topix. Name ONE. I dare you.
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Is it possible that you could be so clueless? Does slavery being around since the beginning of civilization justify American slavery, or any slavery at ANY time in history? How is that not knowing what an American really is? I've touched on slavery in the U.S. and elsewhere in my posts, and in the last one, and it is immoral and inhuman no matter where it happened or happens. What does slavery being around forever have to do with blacks not being able to enlist or play the national sport? And yes, been a hard road for blacks, but they are perhaps better treated and understood in the U.S. than anywhere else. Disreguard that if you wish, it's your way.
I just want to blame America? I love the U.S. But facts are facts. No nation, including yours, is exempt from criticism. If I say Germany started two world wars, does that make me anti-German? Got it? Your kind of defence is simply denial, else, quit the anti-American BS and tell me if what I claimed is history or not.
The black vote number was in response to one of Rogue's ridiculous claims.
Slavery was a common practice across many nations. America did correct its mistake while many countries continued (or continue) to practice slavery. Yet, that's not enough for you. Baseball? Please. Sorry bumpkin, you'll never understand. Those are just the facts. See, you and others do not want racism to end because then you'd have to face the truth. No crutch to fall back on whenever you're flat out wrong. jacqazz, you're a socialist. America is not. Get used to it cause we're not changing for you. As far as this country is concerned, you'll always be unAmerican and irrelevant. Got it? LMAO!!!
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Slavery has been around since the beginning of civilization. It was practiced long before America ever existed. Your point? You just want to blame America. As much as you don't like it jacqazz you'll never understand what it is to be an American. Sorry but those are the facts! And you're the one that posted the black vote numbers, not me! LMAO!!!
We did not invent slavery, to be sure. But what we certainly did was to ignore our own principles in the Declaration, which had said that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." and that all men had the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

While slavery is evil in all countries, it is exceptionally evil for a country that held that "all men are created equal" and that all men had the right to liberty, to hold people in slavery.

To do so required a kind of magical thinking, that black people were not human, and hence did not have the rights specified by the Declaration. But, since even well before the Civil War it was obvious that blacks were performing complex tasks and tending to the children of whites, it was obvious that they were human. So the institution of slavery in the USA was obviously something entirely different from that in Roman times etc, when the losers in wars became slaves and that was that.

We are not specially evil. But we ought to be specially embarrassed and shocked by our history, and to do in the future everything that we can to make sure that all men are treated equally.

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It's a shame "that" many blacks are racist. Just a shame.
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How the tables have turned. From being kidnapped in black Africa, transported in floating hovel death traps where hardly 2/3 survived, sold in bondage and mistreated and killed indiscriminately, and, even after the emancipation proclamation, continued to live a life of servitude, lynched at will by ignorant and racist southerners, low wages and not even allowed to enlist in the armed forces until 1942, and in segregated units only, to be allowed to play the national sport (my *ss) baseball in 1948 only and, until the 60s, but a smarting of black congressmen and senators. And don't come back with "mind your own business" or "I don't know what it is to be an American". Irrelevant, what I wrote is history, all true. And may I add, you're not alone, blacks and other minorities have not faired much better worldwide, with American blacks perhaps being the best treated in the world in 2012 - which is not saying all that much.
And you come out with the phrase " many blacks are racist"?. Well, maybe they have a good reason and it's about time, don't you think?
As I have stated before, for the past four hundred years, I have no know relative who lived south of New England. In 1660, my g-g-g-g-grandfather was an indentured servant in New France and his wife was a young Jewish girl who was taken from her parents and sent to New France to either marry a Catholic or fend for herself. Soooo, since there is no indications that any of my relatives had ever met a black man yet own one, why should they be judges against simply because they are white?
Every man is his own person and even if my father was a slave owner, why should I be held responsible for his sins? But you think it is okay to be prejudice against me just because I am white?!?
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Slavery was a common practice across many nations. America did correct its mistake while many countries continued (or continue) to practice slavery. Yet, that's not enough for you. Baseball? Please. Sorry bumpkin, you'll never understand. Those are just the facts. See, you and others do not want racism to end because then you'd have to face the truth. No crutch to fall back on whenever you're flat out wrong. jacqazz, you're a socialist. America is not. Get used to it cause we're not changing for you. As far as this country is concerned, you'll always be unAmerican and irrelevant. Got it? LMAO!!!
So, your response to facts is, and allow me to quote you : "Sorry bumpkin, you'll never understand. No crutch to fall back on whenever you're flat out wrong. jacqazz, you're a socialist. America is not. Get used to it cause we're not changing for you. As far as this country is concerned, you'll always be unAmerican and irrelevant. Got it? LMAO!"

So, the crux of your response is I'm a socialist? That's it? that's your reasoning? And America is not? Do you mean North, Central, South America? Who? Not changing for us? Not changing what? I'm unAmerican and irrelevant? What's the relevance?
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We did not invent slavery, to be sure. But what we certainly did was to ignore our own principles in the Declaration, which had said that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." and that all men had the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
While slavery is evil in all countries, it is exceptionally evil for a country that held that "all men are created equal" and that all men had the right to liberty, to hold people in slavery.
To do so required a kind of magical thinking, that black people were not human, and hence did not have the rights specified by the Declaration. But, since even well before the Civil War it was obvious that blacks were performing complex tasks and tending to the children of whites, it was obvious that they were human. So the institution of slavery in the USA was obviously something entirely different from that in Roman times etc, when the losers in wars became slaves and that was that.
We are not specially evil. But we ought to be specially embarrassed and shocked by our history, and to do in the future everything that we can to make sure that all men are treated equally.
So logical. But, boy, are you gonna get it. Duck, you're unAmerican.

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Is it possible that you could be so clueless? Does slavery being around since the beginning of civilization justify American slavery, or any slavery at ANY time in history? How is that not knowing what an American really is? I've touched on slavery in the U.S. and elsewhere in my posts, and in the last one, and it is immoral and inhuman no matter where it happened or happens. What does slavery being around forever have to do with blacks not being able to enlist or play the national sport? And yes, been a hard road for blacks, but they are perhaps better treated and understood in the U.S. than anywhere else. Disreguard that if you wish, it's your way.
I just want to blame America? I love the U.S. But facts are facts. No nation, including yours, is exempt from criticism. If I say Germany started two world wars, does that make me anti-German? Got it? Your kind of defence is simply denial, else, quit the anti-American BS and tell me if what I claimed is history or not.
The black vote number was in response to one of Rogue's ridiculous claims.
LRS wrote:
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Slavery was a common practice across many nations. America did correct its mistake while many countries continued (or continue) to practice slavery. Yet, that's not enough for you. Baseball? Please. Sorry bumpkin, you'll never understand. Those are just the facts. See, you and others do not want racism to end because then you'd have to face the truth. No crutch to fall back on whenever you're flat out wrong. jacqazz, you're a socialist. America is not. Get used to it cause we're not changing for you. As far as this country is concerned, you'll always be unAmerican and irrelevant. Got it? LMAO!!!
Jacques thinks that there never were black slaves in Canada!!!

Slavery in Canada
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Slavery in what now comprises Canada existed into the 1830's, when slavery was officially abolished.

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