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“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#129233 Nov 21, 2012
LRS wrote:
Unlike the Birthers, we simply have not been spreading any lies, nor have any interest in doing so. So there is nothing to “expose” here. Nor is there any desperation, as we simply don’t have to do anything. Every day we wake up, Obama is still President. Perhaps that might change next January…but more than likely, that will remain reality until 2017. And we don’t have to lift a finger do make that happen. Well, maybe bother to vote in November, if we chose to keep the current structure in place, but that is the extent of it.
We don’t have any elected “messiah”, simply very human and real options to vote for in an election to lead this country. The only folks that ever use such an inappropriate term as “messiah”, in reference to the very human President Obama, happen to be the sad bizarre Cults of ODS sufferers, such as you BIrthers.
One can only conclude that none of you are actual Christians, as you wouldn’t be so eager to blaspheme your own faith with such a clearly derogatory intent, if you actually were people of faith.
It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man.
-- Thomas Paine,

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#129234 Nov 21, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
And Fatticus finds humor in this sad state of affairs. squid
These business failures had nothing to do with the result of the election on November 6th.

What birthers failed to understand is that whoever was elected President in 2008 be it Obama, McCain or a ham sandwich that the economic conditions we are experencing today would not have changed. Furthermore, unlike 70 years ago or even 40 years ago, the global economy has a direct impact of the economy in the United States. We are interconnected with the world in that multinational corporations can close businesses in one nation and open the same businesses in another nation.

The whole world is experiencing an economic slow down. The President, unlike a dictator, can not simple snap his fingers to improve the economy.

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#129235 Nov 21, 2012
So....how did that whole "birth certificate" conspiracy turn out?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#129236 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ya know, not only is December 7th Pearl Harbor Day but it may also be Obama's Pearl Harbor Day when they release Novembers unemployment numbers!!!
Since the election is over and Obama won, it would have no effect other than the usual economic impact.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#129239 Nov 21, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>No one ever expected shat from you and you didn't disappoint! You fold like a lawn chair! LMAO
Sorry moron. 2nd grade "humor" is just boring.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#129243 Nov 21, 2012
FFS- wrote:
So....how did that whole "birth certificate" conspiracy turn out?
It's been over for a long time. There are some low level thinkers called 'birthers' who still hold wild fantasy claims about the bc. They are a group so far to the right that they are off the radar. Do not take them seriously as everything they have said has been proven false.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#129244 Nov 21, 2012
LRS wrote:
Birthers, how dumb do you feel now that obama has released his official birth certificate?
Why is it that the black president had to show more proof for you to come to terms with the fact that your president is black?
Why wasn't the certification of live birth, a document that says directly on it "This document is legal proof of citizenship" good enough for you? Pure racism? I think so.
Who needs to see a BC when the entire joyride to Kenya myth is utterly implausible. The real question is, which is more realistic, his momma stuffed him in her over-sized purse and smuggled him past customs and immigration, or did she use a Hogwarts's invisibility cloak to sneak him in?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129246 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The Semiahmoo Hotel in Blaine Washington
Highland Curves CA
The Salem Sport Shop in Salem Ohio
Navistar International Corp. to Close truck assembly plant in Garland, Texas – 900
Jobs Lost
Divine Mercy Catholic Books & Gifts Denton Texas
Singer Mental Health Center in Rockford IL
Garelick Farms Ends Production at Bangor Maine Facility
Fashion Tech Window Coverings in Portland?
Custom House Tavern Chicago IL.
Jim’s Builders Hardware in Delano
Lone Star Steakhouse at 1801 22nd St. in West Des Moines
Sears to Close Woodlands Product Rebuild Center – 117 Jobs Lost
Whitehead Inc Rockford Real Estate Company
Robert’s Mens Shop in Downtown New Philadelphia Ohio
Fort Tecumseh Olde Fashun Store in Ohio
Lakewood Beginnings Child Development Center in Lakewood Ohio
Green Fields Seed & Feed in Grand Junction Colo.
The Army and Navy Store in Melrose Mass.
Vitalistic Therapeutic charter school PA
Diamond Foods Inc Closing a plant in Fishers Indiana
Old Town Alehouse 5233 Ballard Ave in Seattle
Space Aliens restaurants in Minot and Grand Forks ND
DeWaay Financial Network LLC
Sears at Quail Springs Mall Oklahoma City OK.
Fashion Bug in O’Fallon MO is closing in January
Kmart Store in Oak Hill W. Va
Update: Jett & Hall men’s clothing store in Richmond KY
D.C. school List of Possible Schools Closing to Be released Later today
Dunkin’ Donuts in Holly Hill FL
Hostess Brands Inc Permanently Closing 3 Bakeries Following a Nationwide Strike
Philips Electronics subsidiary Lightolier will close its local fluorescent light
fixture manufacturing plant in Willington
Smithfield Packing Co. will close in 2013, laying off a total of 400 employees
SuperFresh outlets in Marlton and Westmont NJ
The Bagel Shoppe in Katonah NY
Ben Franklin and Homestead House Gifts in the Kimball Ridge Center in Waterloo IA
Several West Virginia Suzuki dealerships Being Forced to Close
Kowalski Cos Closing All 4 of its Metro Detroit Delis but to Continue Food
Production
Three Memphis charter schools and one in Nashville Tenn. Could Close Due to Poor
Test Scores
The Custer School District SD – Closing 2 Rural Schools
The Dressing Room, on North Lincoln Avenue IL
The Utica office of IBOPE NY
BANKRUPTCIES:
AMF Bowling Worldwide Inc
Aletheia Research & Management Inc
Omtron USA
Helmkampf Construction in Olivette
Clear Light Publishers
Monitor Company Group LP
ThinkEquity LLC
Homer City Funding LLC
US Suzuki Distributor – Chapter 11
Revolt Technology
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You must be on cloud nine. What a delight, as you think the USA is going asunder. That'll teach Obama and those 60 million voters.

Do you mean to say that all those enterprises SUDDENLY decided to close or reduce their work forces all of a sudden, just like that, because Obama won? That was not planned? Dream on. Your pleasure, won't last long. No, Rogue, you'll not experience that mountain-high orgasmic crescendo, as the economy will rebound, IS rebounding, and the country's health will return. Sorry to disappoint.

You rejoiced, could not contain your joy last week when the DJIA tanked, like the 4 days following the election. Everything's just about where it was now. What is your explanation for the surge of the last 3 days, Rogue? Did Obama distribute free condoms to all the stock traders?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129247 Nov 21, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
No one ever expected shat from you and you didn't disappoint! You fold like a lawn chair! LMAO
An empty lawn chair? Careful, lest the empty chair defeat you like it did Oily and "Hang 'em high" Clint.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129248 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ya know, not only is December 7th Pearl Harbor Day but it may also be Obama's Pearl Harbor Day when they release Novembers unemployment numbers!!!
I'll bet you're gonna have a novenna, praying that the numbers are the highest for the last 12 months. That'll show Obama and those 60 million voters. Hey, Rogue, Obama won. Funny, still haven't seen any acknowledgement of that from you or your birther and tea party ilk. I digress. Yes, and when those new unemployed get in the dole line, hope you'll be there to taunt them and say "I told you so". Oh, btw, this, as always, is a losing proposition for Obama, right?

A) Unemployment is up, all Obama's fault.
B) Unemployment is down, Obama fiddled with and fixed the numbers.

Yup, either way he loses, right?
Grand Birther

Cleveland, OH

#129251 Nov 21, 2012
If arbitrary credit ratings by questionable ratings agencies matter, birfers, why do yields on US Treasury paper keep dropping?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129252 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Just in case you have not realized, the AVERAGE American family has lost $4,000 in annual income while medical expenses have gone up $2,500 and gasoline has gone up $2,000. Every business is being hurt. It is only reasonable that they SHARE the pain of Obamanomics!!!
It is either that, or they will all lose their jobs when the company folds?
All made-up wild fantasy numbers. You can't help it. Please show us some credible sources.

Just an example how you fabricate, lie and the size of your phantasms. The average Joe drives about 15,000 miles per year, some more, some less, but that is the average.)based on consumer reports magazine). Your $2,000 rise in gas prices, for one, makes no sense.

Figures below are based on 1,500 miles per year, 600 gallons. Try and find that $2,000 increase you are mumbling about. Well, do try this :

When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, average overall U.S price per gallon was $1.90. Add 2% compound inflation (x 4) and you arrive at $2.20. Therefore, 600 gallons at $1.90 =$1,140. Today, 600 gallons at $3.20 =$1,920, Difference, including inflation is $780. NOT $2,000. Please explain and show official statistics that account for the $4,000 income loss and rise of $2,500 in Health care premiums.

More breaking news, Rogue. Obama does not fix gas prices.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129253 Nov 21, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
These business failures had nothing to do with the result of the election on November 6th.
What birthers failed to understand is that whoever was elected President in 2008 be it Obama, McCain or a ham sandwich that the economic conditions we are experencing today would not have changed. Furthermore, unlike 70 years ago or even 40 years ago, the global economy has a direct impact of the economy in the United States. We are interconnected with the world in that multinational corporations can close businesses in one nation and open the same businesses in another nation.
The whole world is experiencing an economic slow down. The President, unlike a dictator, can not simple snap his fingers to improve the economy.
That I will disagree with you as McCain would not have pushed a progressive agenda while ignoring the economy. The EPA and OSHA are out of control wright dozens of new regulation every day.
Now, who will Obama be blaming two years from now if the economy is still in the toilet?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129255 Nov 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
All made-up wild fantasy numbers. You can't help it. Please show us some credible sources.
Just an example how you fabricate, lie and the size of your phantasms. The average Joe drives about 15,000 miles per year, some more, some less, but that is the average.)based on consumer reports magazine). Your $2,000 rise in gas prices, for one, makes no sense.
Figures below are based on 1,500 miles per year, 600 gallons. Try and find that $2,000 increase you are mumbling about. Well, do try this :
When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, average overall U.S price per gallon was $1.90. Add 2% compound inflation (x 4) and you arrive at $2.20. Therefore, 600 gallons at $1.90 =$1,140. Today, 600 gallons at $3.20 =$1,920, Difference, including inflation is $780. NOT $2,000. Please explain and show official statistics that account for the $4,000 income loss and rise of $2,500 in Health care premiums.
More breaking news, Rogue. Obama does not fix gas prices.
Ah, you do know that an average family is 2.2 people and the average Joe is just 1 People, don't you?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129256 Nov 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll bet you're gonna have a novenna, praying that the numbers are the highest for the last 12 months. That'll show Obama and those 60 million voters. Hey, Rogue, Obama won. Funny, still haven't seen any acknowledgement of that from you or your birther and tea party ilk. I digress. Yes, and when those new unemployed get in the dole line, hope you'll be there to taunt them and say "I told you so". Oh, btw, this, as always, is a losing proposition for Obama, right?
A) Unemployment is up, all Obama's fault.
B) Unemployment is down, Obama fiddled with and fixed the numbers.
Yup, either way he loses, right?
Not unlike the election. "We'll be dancing in the streets morning of November 7," yelled Rogue and fellow birthers and tea partyers. "But," I asked, "what if Obama wins?" "Then he will have won fraudulently", replied Rogue. Simple : Obama loses either way. That is the birther sore loser way, just like that 170 - 0, they think they were beaten EVERY time by democrat-appointed communist ex-Iranian judges. Even the empty chair that vanquished Oily Taitz was a democrat-appointed chair. And probably communist too.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129257 Nov 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll bet you're gonna have a novenna, praying that the numbers are the highest for the last 12 months. That'll show Obama and those 60 million voters. Hey, Rogue, Obama won. Funny, still haven't seen any acknowledgement of that from you or your birther and tea party ilk. I digress. Yes, and when those new unemployed get in the dole line, hope you'll be there to taunt them and say "I told you so". Oh, btw, this, as always, is a losing proposition for Obama, right?
A) Unemployment is up, all Obama's fault.
B) Unemployment is down, Obama fiddled with and fixed the numbers.
Yup, either way he loses, right?
We know that the September numbers were false as they admitted it. California did not do a complete report and they have by far the largest population. But Obama reported it as fact.
Oh, remember, you blame the economy on G.W. and he has been gone almost four years now so you can no longer blame him!
ObamaCare is the largest tax increase in U.S. history and that is a fact too!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129259 Nov 21, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget:
Joe's pizza parlor and body shop 1
Yep, just closed my business and the town is pissed!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129262 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
We know that the September numbers were false as they admitted it. California did not do a complete report and they have by far the largest population. But Obama reported it as fact.
Oh, remember, you blame the economy on G.W. and he has been gone almost four years now so you can no longer blame him!
ObamaCare is the largest tax increase in U.S. history and that is a fact too!
1. I did not mention GWB in my post. Did I? But should you ask, any economist worth his salt, centre, centre right or centre left, capitalist or socialist, will tell you that the present worldwide, not just US crisis, but worldwide, is GWB-made and will endure for a while yet;

2. You wrote "We know that the September numbers were false as they admitted it." Do you just make this up as you go along or is it planned? You want to look good? Maybe you do to your insane birther ilk, but not to normal intelligent folks. I read, I watch, I listen and unless I was in a coma, I have not heard or seen "We know that the September numbers were false as they admitted it." Please supply a source, a reliable one too. Thank you.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129263 Nov 21, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man.
-- Thomas Paine,
Paine must have been reading the Koran.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129265 Nov 21, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget:
Joe's pizza parlor and body shop 1
Sorry, my brother Joe own a pizza joint but no body shop.

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