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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129252 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Just in case you have not realized, the AVERAGE American family has lost $4,000 in annual income while medical expenses have gone up $2,500 and gasoline has gone up $2,000. Every business is being hurt. It is only reasonable that they SHARE the pain of Obamanomics!!!
It is either that, or they will all lose their jobs when the company folds?
All made-up wild fantasy numbers. You can't help it. Please show us some credible sources.

Just an example how you fabricate, lie and the size of your phantasms. The average Joe drives about 15,000 miles per year, some more, some less, but that is the average.)based on consumer reports magazine). Your $2,000 rise in gas prices, for one, makes no sense.

Figures below are based on 1,500 miles per year, 600 gallons. Try and find that $2,000 increase you are mumbling about. Well, do try this :

When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, average overall U.S price per gallon was $1.90. Add 2% compound inflation (x 4) and you arrive at $2.20. Therefore, 600 gallons at $1.90 =$1,140. Today, 600 gallons at $3.20 =$1,920, Difference, including inflation is $780. NOT $2,000. Please explain and show official statistics that account for the $4,000 income loss and rise of $2,500 in Health care premiums.

More breaking news, Rogue. Obama does not fix gas prices.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129253 Nov 21, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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These business failures had nothing to do with the result of the election on November 6th.
What birthers failed to understand is that whoever was elected President in 2008 be it Obama, McCain or a ham sandwich that the economic conditions we are experencing today would not have changed. Furthermore, unlike 70 years ago or even 40 years ago, the global economy has a direct impact of the economy in the United States. We are interconnected with the world in that multinational corporations can close businesses in one nation and open the same businesses in another nation.
The whole world is experiencing an economic slow down. The President, unlike a dictator, can not simple snap his fingers to improve the economy.
That I will disagree with you as McCain would not have pushed a progressive agenda while ignoring the economy. The EPA and OSHA are out of control wright dozens of new regulation every day.
Now, who will Obama be blaming two years from now if the economy is still in the toilet?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129255 Nov 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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All made-up wild fantasy numbers. You can't help it. Please show us some credible sources.
Just an example how you fabricate, lie and the size of your phantasms. The average Joe drives about 15,000 miles per year, some more, some less, but that is the average.)based on consumer reports magazine). Your $2,000 rise in gas prices, for one, makes no sense.
Figures below are based on 1,500 miles per year, 600 gallons. Try and find that $2,000 increase you are mumbling about. Well, do try this :
When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, average overall U.S price per gallon was $1.90. Add 2% compound inflation (x 4) and you arrive at $2.20. Therefore, 600 gallons at $1.90 =$1,140. Today, 600 gallons at $3.20 =$1,920, Difference, including inflation is $780. NOT $2,000. Please explain and show official statistics that account for the $4,000 income loss and rise of $2,500 in Health care premiums.
More breaking news, Rogue. Obama does not fix gas prices.
Ah, you do know that an average family is 2.2 people and the average Joe is just 1 People, don't you?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129256 Nov 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I'll bet you're gonna have a novenna, praying that the numbers are the highest for the last 12 months. That'll show Obama and those 60 million voters. Hey, Rogue, Obama won. Funny, still haven't seen any acknowledgement of that from you or your birther and tea party ilk. I digress. Yes, and when those new unemployed get in the dole line, hope you'll be there to taunt them and say "I told you so". Oh, btw, this, as always, is a losing proposition for Obama, right?
A) Unemployment is up, all Obama's fault.
B) Unemployment is down, Obama fiddled with and fixed the numbers.
Yup, either way he loses, right?
Not unlike the election. "We'll be dancing in the streets morning of November 7," yelled Rogue and fellow birthers and tea partyers. "But," I asked, "what if Obama wins?" "Then he will have won fraudulently", replied Rogue. Simple : Obama loses either way. That is the birther sore loser way, just like that 170 - 0, they think they were beaten EVERY time by democrat-appointed communist ex-Iranian judges. Even the empty chair that vanquished Oily Taitz was a democrat-appointed chair. And probably communist too.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129257 Nov 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I'll bet you're gonna have a novenna, praying that the numbers are the highest for the last 12 months. That'll show Obama and those 60 million voters. Hey, Rogue, Obama won. Funny, still haven't seen any acknowledgement of that from you or your birther and tea party ilk. I digress. Yes, and when those new unemployed get in the dole line, hope you'll be there to taunt them and say "I told you so". Oh, btw, this, as always, is a losing proposition for Obama, right?
A) Unemployment is up, all Obama's fault.
B) Unemployment is down, Obama fiddled with and fixed the numbers.
Yup, either way he loses, right?
We know that the September numbers were false as they admitted it. California did not do a complete report and they have by far the largest population. But Obama reported it as fact.
Oh, remember, you blame the economy on G.W. and he has been gone almost four years now so you can no longer blame him!
ObamaCare is the largest tax increase in U.S. history and that is a fact too!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129259 Nov 21, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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Don't forget:
Joe's pizza parlor and body shop 1
Yep, just closed my business and the town is pissed!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129262 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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We know that the September numbers were false as they admitted it. California did not do a complete report and they have by far the largest population. But Obama reported it as fact.
Oh, remember, you blame the economy on G.W. and he has been gone almost four years now so you can no longer blame him!
ObamaCare is the largest tax increase in U.S. history and that is a fact too!
1. I did not mention GWB in my post. Did I? But should you ask, any economist worth his salt, centre, centre right or centre left, capitalist or socialist, will tell you that the present worldwide, not just US crisis, but worldwide, is GWB-made and will endure for a while yet;

2. You wrote "We know that the September numbers were false as they admitted it." Do you just make this up as you go along or is it planned? You want to look good? Maybe you do to your insane birther ilk, but not to normal intelligent folks. I read, I watch, I listen and unless I was in a coma, I have not heard or seen "We know that the September numbers were false as they admitted it." Please supply a source, a reliable one too. Thank you.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129263 Nov 21, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man.
-- Thomas Paine,
Paine must have been reading the Koran.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129265 Nov 21, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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Don't forget:
Joe's pizza parlor and body shop 1
Sorry, my brother Joe own a pizza joint but no body shop.
frogmann

Pittsburgh, PA

#129266 Nov 21, 2012
youtube.com/watch...
Obama still hasnt come clean

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129267 Nov 21, 2012
This comes from CNN so it must be true. Yep, fraud and waste in government is twice that of the private sector. We also need to contract out airport security!!!

Study: Private airport towers as safe, cheaper than government towers; By Mike M. Ahlers, CNN

Washington (CNN)-- Air traffic control towers staffed by private contractors are cheaper and provide the same level of safety as towers staffed by government controllers, a new government audit concludes.
Contract towers, as they are known, cost on average $537,000 a year to operate, compared with $2 million for comparably busy towers staffed by the Federal Aviation Administration, according to the Department of Transportation's Office of Inspector General. In addition, the contract towers had a "significantly lower number and rate of safety incidents," the report said.
Currently, 251 of the nation's 374 towers are staffed by contractors who must meet FAA standards and are overseen by FAA managers. Restricted to lower-volume airports, contract towers nonetheless handle 28 percent of all domestic airport operations.
The OIG report likely will give ammunition to Republican lawmakers who favor the privatization of everything from airport control towers to security checkpoints. But it is unlikely to result in an expansion of tower contracting, coming on the heels of the re-election of a president with strong public sector support.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/travel/air-traf...
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129268 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, you do know that an average family is 2.2 people and the average Joe is just 1 People, don't you?
Are you ranting? Even if the poor guy has to pay for gasoline for TWO cars, and hey, it's his decision, he still is not paying $2,000 more per year for the two cars. Are you gonna come back now and tell me the average guy pays for THREE cars?

And funny how you failed to explain, with proof or reliable source, the $4,000 loss in income and $2,500 hike in health care premiums. Will I have to remind you two, three times a day? Was talking to my Newark friend, self-employed, about tax hikes to finance health care. He said "hell, I'll gladly pay $300 more per month than the over-$1,000 per month I'd have to pay now for insurance and which btw I can't afford. And the new policy of non-exclusion of those that have any disease is wonderful as I could not insure my wife as she has a pre-condition. Can you imagine that?

You have your lifetime-guaranteed health plan, Rogue. Just consider yourself very fortunate.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129269 Nov 21, 2012
frogmann wrote:
youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZsJRmYqB 8&feature=plcp
Obama still hasnt come clean
You dove again without your snorkel did you, frogmann with 2 n's? And came up too fast and got the bends? What an ignorant vulgar childish twat you are. Typical right-wing birther tea partyer trash. Adolsescently thinks that conitunuous farting is funny, witty and the stuff of intellectuals. Birther intellectuals, yes, for sure.

How discrouraging that losers and commonest denominators like you are to be found in all corners of the nation. There should be a law, a law that ensures that clonks like you, well, birthers mostly, be hidden from view, specially when there are tourists around.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129270 Nov 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
This comes from CNN so it must be true. Yep, fraud and waste in government is twice that of the private sector. We also need to contract out airport security!!!
Study: Private airport towers as safe, cheaper than government towers; By Mike M. Ahlers, CNN
Washington (CNN)-- Air traffic control towers staffed by private contractors are cheaper and provide the same level of safety as towers staffed by government controllers, a new government audit concludes.
Contract towers, as they are known, cost on average $537,000 a year to operate, compared with $2 million for comparably busy towers staffed by the Federal Aviation Administration, according to the Department of Transportation's Office of Inspector General. In addition, the contract towers had a "significantly lower number and rate of safety incidents," the report said.
Currently, 251 of the nation's 374 towers are staffed by contractors who must meet FAA standards and are overseen by FAA managers. Restricted to lower-volume airports, contract towers nonetheless handle 28 percent of all domestic airport operations.
The OIG report likely will give ammunition to Republican lawmakers who favor the privatization of everything from airport control towers to security checkpoints. But it is unlikely to result in an expansion of tower contracting, coming on the heels of the re-election of a president with strong public sector support.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/travel/air-traf...
Govt towers are safer because they have more staff. Govt towers cost more because its employees are better paid and have more benefits like health plans, pensions, death benefits that pvt towers. Govt towers handle over 72% of domestic traffic and although you do not mention it, probably 95% of all intl traffic. I know here in Canada, we have the best of both worlds in air traffic control, neither govt nor private, check it out, Rogue, and if offers excellent working condtions with pensions and other benefits. Here at least, the last thing I want is privately-owned general public pvt controllers, specially if they police themselves. Thik of Enron and all those brokers and banks that failed due to self-policing and deregulation. Those food processing firms that best know how to regulate safety withtheir e-coli and other food alerts every 3rd day. Privatize air traffic control and see airplanes collide.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#129271 Nov 21, 2012
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Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129272 Nov 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You dove again without your snorkel did you, frogmann with 2 n's? And came up too fast and got the bends? What an ignorant vulgar childish twat you are. Typical right-wing birther tea partyer trash. Adolsescently thinks that conitunuous farting is funny, witty and the stuff of intellectuals. Birther intellectuals, yes, for sure.
How discrouraging that losers and commonest denominators like you are to be found in all corners of the nation. There should be a law, a law that ensures that clonks like you, well, birthers mostly, be hidden from view, specially when there are tourists around.
a bunch of useless words, you didn't get any point across! Damn, I could have just posted "Dicta"!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129275 Nov 21, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>a bunch of useless words, you didn't get any point across! Damn, I could have just posted "Dicta"!
Didn't get my point across, did I? Quick response, though. Don't tell me the shoe fits.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129276 Nov 21, 2012
We've already had our thanksgiving, and it was great. Hope all of you Americans and down-south neighbours have a good one too, with the year ending in an upbeat manner for all, and I mean ALL.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129277 Nov 21, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>a bunch of useless words, you didn't get any point across! Damn, I could have just posted "Dicta"!
"Dicta" : Authoritative but not binding. Is that what you had in mind? It was authoritative, yes, but only binding if you want it that way.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129279 Nov 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Didn't get my point across, did I? Quick response, though. Don't tell me the shoe fits.
just sounded like a bunch of BS, as usual!

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