BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#129018 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
Arpaio: Investigation proves Obama birth certificate a fake
Posted: Thursday, March 1, 2012 3:58 pm | Updated: 10:52 am, Tue Mar 6, 2012.
By Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services | 58 comments
PHOENIX — The birth certificate which Barack Obama says proves he is a U.S. citizen is a fraud, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio charged Thursday.
The sheriff said a forensic examination of the electronic document posted last year by the White House proves that it was not simply scanned into a file but actually put together in several pieces. And Mike Zullo, head of the sheriff’s Cold Case Posse who headed the investigation, said the inconsistencies in the document cannot be explained away by claims that it was optimized or had been scanned with optical character recognition software.
Zullo also said a separate examination proves Obama’s selective service also is a fake.
But the sheriff, while saying the evidence proves that a crime was committed, was careful not to implicate the president.
“I’m not accusing anyone of anything until we find out who may have committed these alleged crimes over this birth certificate and the selective service card,” Arpaio said.
“Someone did it — if it’s false,” he continued, adding “we made a pretty good case here.”
And Arpaio brushed aside a question of why he was able to find such evidence when no one else in the country has. The sheriff said he probably was the only one who bothered to investigate in detail.
“Show me how far they went,” Arpaio said of other.“And show me any law enforcement agency that looked into it.”
Zullo also said the fact the Honolulu newspaper had a birth announcement at the time proves nothing, saying the newspaper accepted such messages without requiring proof the person actually had been born in the state.
And asked how Obama managed to get a passport without a valid birth certificate, all Zullo could say is,“that’s a great question.”
And Zullo insisted that Arpaio has jurisdiction.
He said the White House, under pressure, never produced an actual document for people to examine.
“They produced an electronic file,” Zullo said.
“The fact that that document was put up on the web site of the White House for distribution to anyone in the country, the world, who wanted to see it, was a representation made to the people of Maricopa County, including a press conference where the president himself attests,‘this is my document, proof positive,’” Zullo said.
“You fraud one person in Maricopa County with that, you fraud every person in Maricopa County.”
Zullo stressed, though,“we are not accusing Mr. Obama of creating this document.” he said.
Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix, called the finding “extremely troubling.” Seel said he hopes the sheriff’s findings breathe new life into legislation he and Sen. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, have been pushing to require some evidence that all candidates whould have to prove they are “natural born citizens” of the United States before their names are placed on the ballot.
He said even if questions of Obama’s birth certificate are never resolved, he believes the inquiry shows the need for better vetting of candidates “to make sure in the future we maintain the integrity of our ballot.” More to the point, Seel wants legislation to empower the government to enforce the constitutional requirements for presidency.
The White House, which thought the issue had been put to sleep with the posting of the birth certificate, had no comment.
Arpaio said he is not saying the president is serving illegally — exactly. But he said that, given the findings about his birth certificate and selective service registration, he wants the president to produce some conclusive evidence of his citizenship.
Zullo said that could include actual microfilm of documents, with his office able to test the film to verify its age and authenticity. Hospital records also would be acceptable.
Arpaio: Investigation proves Arpaio is and old fool.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#129019 Nov 20, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Look in the 14th amendment.
Would you prefer Marxist-Socialist Communism?
Yep. No phrase "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Property". No ban on communism. And, fortunately for DufusDale, no ban on ignorance or bigotry
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129020 Nov 20, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the other nutty birther theory. Every child born in the USA, except for the children of foreign diplomats, has been ruled by the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case to be a Natural Born US Citizen. That makes Rubio, Jindal and, yes, Obama, all Natural Born US Citizens. The citizenship of the father, or of the father and the mother, is irrelevant.
Oh, and the US Supreme Court has just rejected birther appeals of the Farrar case in Georgia, which ruled that the meaning of Natural Born was defined in the Wong Kim Ark case, and that it refers to the place of birth and that every child born in the USA is a Natural Born Citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats. What is the effect of the US Supreme Court rejecting the appeal of the Farrar case? It is that the ruling in the Farrar case STANDS.
Ark isn't worth the paper it was written on, not only did it not define a Natural Born Citizen, it completely missed the boat on the definition to "Subject to the jurisdiction, thereof".
The 14th was never changed, this can not be accomplished by the USSC. NEXT!!!!
LRS

United States

#129021 Nov 20, 2012
LOSER wrote:
<quoted text>
Right....dumbazz! Still covering for the Liar in Chief, huh? You've been had skippy! LMAO
Sorry, Loser, but the data go back decades.

Science: testable, repeatable, verifiable.

Birfoon ramblings: disproven.

Try again, Louise.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#129022 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
No "real" American gives a shat about you or your opinion. squid
BirfoonBoy is having a problem distinguishing opinion from fact.

President Obama is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES like it or not. He won the elections in 2008 and 2012. Fact. There is NOTHING birfoons can do about that except moan, whine, and have childish tantrums. Get over it.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, if I laugh at Play Law that doesn't make me unAmerican.
Sorry, I'm not the only person who thinks Play Law is FOS. The people who matter are the USSC justices, the judges of the United States, the Senate and House, the state election boards, and the vast majority of voters.
Get over it, ineffective loser. Whining and name calling on topix will not accomplish anything for you. Mittens is history. Barack Obama will be a second term President in January, following counting of the electoral votes, certification by Congress, and swearing in by the Chief Justice.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129023 Nov 20, 2012
JOCK ITCH is a COWARD wrote:
yep. we all knew it you coward.
Now this is a funny one, Guru. Yessir. Slapping your Michelin tire thighs, histerically laughing at your grade schoolyard impersonating humour? No doubt your birther friends think it's funny and LMAO'ing to death. Awwww, whatever possesses you to come up with such boyish stuff?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#129024 Nov 20, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Look in the 14th amendment.
Would you prefer Marxist-Socialist Communism?
Who practicesd these "dépassées" idéologies? Cuba, North Korea? Get in step, Justice, ha ha, forgive me, Dale.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129025 Nov 20, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. No phrase "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Property". No ban on communism. And, fortunately for DufusDale, no ban on ignorance or bigotry
you are correct, I used Locke's quote.
Still yet, under Marxist-Socialist Communism, what do you own.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#129026 Nov 20, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Ark isn't worth the paper it was written on, not only did it not define a Natural Born Citizen, it completely missed the boat on the definition to "Subject to the jurisdiction, thereof".
The 14th was never changed, this can not be accomplished by the USSC. NEXT!!!!
YOUR opinion counts for nothing at all. The opinion of the US Supreme Court is the law. That is why Obama was sworn in by the US Chief Justice four years ago. That is why he will be sworn in again on January 21. That is why his election was confirmed UNANIMOUSLY by the Congress four years ago. That is why it will be confirmed again. That is why when birthers tried to convince members of the US Electoral College to change their votes four years ago, not one of them did---not one.

Your theory about "subject to the jurisdiction" is nutty.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#129027 Nov 20, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>you are correct, I used Locke's quote.
Still yet, under Marxist-Socialist Communism, what do you own.
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

Even assuming Marxist-Socialist Communism (as opposed to Marxism or Marxist socialism) does deprive a person of property without due process (a real stretch) this does not ban MSC.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#129028 Nov 20, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>you are correct, I used Locke's quote.
Still yet, under Marxist-Socialist Communism, what do you own.
Surprised to see you admit your direct quote from the Constitution wasn't from Constitution Maybe there's hope for you yet
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129029 Nov 20, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Who practicesd these "dépassées" idéologies? Cuba, North Korea? Get in step, Justice, ha ha, forgive me, Dale.
Oh, so you want a moderate Communist-Socialist state like, Greece, Italy, Spain, etc.
Why not move there.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129031 Nov 20, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Who practicesd these "dépassées" idéologies? Cuba, North Korea? Get in step, Justice, ha ha, forgive me, Dale.
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, so you want a moderate Communist-Socialist state like, Greece, Italy, Spain, etc.
Why not move there.
In the "judge it" they have an empty spot on the lower right. Might I suggest they add a fencing foil with the word "touche'" under it!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#129032 Nov 20, 2012
Guru wrote:
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>à
My question to you is why you won't even say he's the November 7 winner. My question to you is the use of that word communist, a passé word, finished, debunked and the only communists left are in North Korean and Cuba, and fading fast. Obama's your president, stop hoping the nation will implode just because you hate him. Very patriotic, by the way.
5th request to you Jock itch....
so why do you support his criminal actions again? you never answered that, Then I will answer yours.
coward?
He'll answer after you answer why you are still beating your wife.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129033 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
Chris Matthews Takes On The Lunatic Birther Movement
Chris Matthews highlighted this nutcase birther at a town hall with Rep. Mike Castle (R-DE), questioning Obama's citizenship and forcing a recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance. It's unfiltered .......... knowing he would run for President eventually and need a cover story.
Ya mean the same Chris Matthews that said, "You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour."
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#129034 Nov 20, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
Even assuming Marxist-Socialist Communism (as opposed to Marxism or Marxist socialism) does deprive a person of property without due process (a real stretch) this does not ban MSC.
Under Marxism you own nothing, so due process of law is not required.
So owning any type of property must be overcome for this government to become a MSC state, this will not happen.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129035 Nov 20, 2012
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Its okay JS, they’re probably dumb enough to pay the penalty and not be insured as well.
The 10 states—all of which have uninsured rates that are equal to or greater than the national average—are Alabama (16%), Louisiana (17%), Oklahoma (18%), Arizona (19%), Mississippi (19%), South Carolina (19%), Georgia (20%), Florida (21%), Nevada (21%), New Mexico (21%) and Texas (25%).
Tell me Poopo, why wood someone like George Soros need to buy health insurance? Why would a Catholic Nun have to buy health insurance when she is covered by her convent?
How about illegal aliens, who will make sure they have health insurance?
Now, can you tell us where you got your stats?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#129036 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
I love birther nuts.
Guess what?
You lost! American rejected ALL the crap you post and went for Obama in a landslide.
Ah, we still have the House and we will have another go at the Senate in 2014.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#129037 Nov 20, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Who practicesd these "dépassées" idéologies? Cuba, North Korea? Get in step, Justice, ha ha, forgive me, Dale.
<quoted text>
In the "judge it" they have an empty spot on the lower right. Might I suggest they add a fencing foil with the word "touche'" under it!
Touche'? Did you mean touché?
Grand Birther

Brooklyn, NY

#129038 Nov 20, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Under Marxism you own nothing, so due process of law is not required.
So owning any type of property must be overcome for this government to become a MSC state, this will not happen.
LOL, you are of course wrong as usual.

No wonder you're a birther.

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