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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128907 Nov 20, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
However, the article is wrong.
There is NOTHING, not a word, in the U.S. Constitution about there being a quorum requirement for the Electoral College. There IS a quorum requirement for the House of Representatives if there is no person receiving a majority of the votes of the Electoral College. But there is no mention of a quorum for the Electoral College.
Oh, and birthers actually did try to have the Electors of the Electoral College change their votes to vote against Obama four years ago. There was a letter-writing campaign at that time. And the result of it? The result was that the campaign did NOT change a single vote. The votes by the Electors were exactly the same as the Electoral Vote in the general election.
Oh, I forgot; "well, even if he did say it, he would be wrong"! LMAO!!!
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128908 Nov 20, 2012
Posted: Thursday, March 1, 2012 3:58 pm | Updated: 10:52 am, Tue Mar 6, 2012.
By Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services | 58 comments
PHOENIX — The birth certificate which Barack Obama says proves he is a U.S. citizen is a fraud, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio charged Thursday.
The sheriff said a forensic examination of the electronic document posted last year by the White House proves that it was not simply scanned into a file but actually put together in several pieces. And Mike Zullo, head of the sheriff’s Cold Case Posse who headed the investigation, said the inconsistencies in the document cannot be explained away by claims that it was optimized or had been scanned with optical character recognition software.
Zullo also said a separate examination proves Obama’s selective service also is a fake.
But the sheriff, while saying the evidence proves that a crime was committed, was careful not to implicate the president.
“I’m not accusing anyone of anything until we find out who may have committed these alleged crimes over this birth certificate and the selective service card,” Arpaio said.
“Someone did it — if it’s false,” he continued, adding “we made a pretty good case here.”
And Arpaio brushed aside a question of why he was able to find such evidence when no one else in the country has. The sheriff said he probably was the only one who bothered to investigate in detail.
“Show me how far they went,” Arpaio said of other.“And show me any law enforcement agency that looked into it.”
Zullo also said the fact the Honolulu newspaper had a birth announcement at the time proves nothing, saying the newspaper accepted such messages without requiring proof the person actually had been born in the state.
And asked how Obama managed to get a passport without a valid birth certificate, all Zullo could say is,“that’s a great question.”
And Zullo insisted that Arpaio has jurisdiction.
He said the White House, under pressure, never produced an actual document for people to examine.
“They produced an electronic file,” Zullo said.
“The fact that that document was put up on the web site of the White House for distribution to anyone in the country, the world, who wanted to see it, was a representation made to the people of Maricopa County, including a press conference where the president himself attests,‘this is my document, proof positive,’” Zullo said.
“You fraud one person in Maricopa County with that, you fraud every person in Maricopa County.”
Zullo stressed, though,“we are not accusing Mr. Obama of creating this document.” he said.
Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix, called the finding “extremely troubling.” Seel said he hopes the sheriff’s findings breathe new life into legislation he and Sen. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, have been pushing to require some evidence that all candidates whould have to prove they are “natural born citizens” of the United States before their names are placed on the ballot.
He said even if questions of Obama’s birth certificate are never resolved, he believes the inquiry shows the need for better vetting of candidates “to make sure in the future we maintain the integrity of our ballot.” More to the point, Seel wants legislation to empower the government to enforce the constitutional requirements for presidency.
The White House, which thought the issue had been put to sleep with the posting of the birth certificate, had no comment.
Arpaio said he is not saying the president is serving illegally — exactly. But he said that, given the findings about his birth certificate and selective service registration, he wants the president to produce some conclusive evidence of his citizenship.
Zullo said that could include actual microfilm of documents, with his office able to test the film to verify its age and authenticity. Hospital records also would be acceptable.
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128909 Nov 20, 2012
“We do not have a single document, absent that birth certificate which we do not believe was ever an authenticated document, that proves Mr. Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the United States for that matter,” said Zullo.
“At this juncture, we have advised Sheriff Arpaio we believe there should be a full-blown criminal investigation because a fraud has been committed in Maricopa County and the State of Arizona,” he said.“The document is fake. The representations, therefore, are fake.”

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#128910 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
How does any of that garbage apply to you being unAmerican trash? It doesn't. You've only learned like two or three American phrases, right? I mean, you repeat yourself over and over. Same old BS each time. Pathetic.
Sorry, if I laugh at Play Law that doesn't make me unAmerican.

Sorry, I'm not the only person who thinks Play Law is FOS. The people who matter are the USSC justices, the judges of the United States, the Senate and House, the state election boards, and the vast majority of voters.

Get over it, ineffective loser. Whining and name calling on topix will not accomplish anything for you. Mittens is history. Barack Obama will be a second term President in January, following counting of the electoral votes, certification by Congress, and swearing in by the Chief Justice.
wojar wrote:
Yesiree! unAmerican Trash: USSC justices, judges of the United States, the Senate and House, the majority of voters.
Wimp-assed loser. You lost. Get over it. Grow up!
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128911 Nov 20, 2012
Libtards R Stupid

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/now-other-nati...

How long must this corruption and lawlessness go on in the White House?

It has been since April 28, 2011 that the White House disclosed President Obama’s supposed real long form birth certificate. Once this document had been divulged to the country almost immediately experts began testing its authenticity. Such people as Doug Vogt, a document scanning expert pointed out that there were signature halo effects on particular letters and dates that proved the White House version of Obama’s COLB certificate of live birth had been electronically altered.

International doubt develops

Officials from both Germany and Russia commented that the American government was conducting a fraud upon its own people. The phony COLB came at a time when Hawaii under the demand of many requests by investigators for Obama’s birth certificate stiffened its laws and actually made it more difficult to get one unless stringent actions were taken slowing the process down to weeks. Even Neil Abercrombie, newly elected Governor of Hawaii, could not find Obama's birth certificate. Yet, Obama said in a public statement that he had made special arrangements with the Hawaiian State Health Department to have a copy speeded up and sent to the White House. Many people smelled a rat!

Cold case posse investigates

After 6 months of thorough investigation, Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County Arizona unveiled the results of his cold case posse’s findings. This group of volunteer veteran law enforcement personnel proved that the White House version of Obama’s supposed birth certificate was indeed a fake and had been generated in a computer. They even identified that it was generated in a White House computer to within 20 minutes of the creation date of the document. Arpaio and his people have not stopped there, they have continued their investigation uncovering other lies and inconsistencies that I will mention in another article. Despite liberal attacks that complained that Arpaio’s team was a waste of tax payer’s money, which it wasn’t as the team was providing their services for free, I find it tragically laughable that liberals will waste money on anything to support their cause, but verifying the eligibility of their own president!

University in Israel examines Obama birth scandal

The latest to have a look at the phony White House Obama birth certificate have been Israelis scientists who are now convinced that the Obama administration is committing fraud. Making a statement that President Obama being the leader of the most powerful nation in the western world being at the center of this continuing controversy must surely be a source of concern. As a result, they have employed the efforts of Professor Hanukoglu of the Department of Molecular Biology at Ariel University Center in Ariel, Israel.
They have dedicated a website to the research that went into verifying whether or not the White House document was authentic or not. Their findings were born out of two particular programs easily available to the public Foxit Reader version 4.3.1 or another program Inkscape graphics software version 0.48.1. Both of these programs detected anomalies, inconsistencies in fonts, numbering sequence problems, and super imposed numbering that all prove alteration, and criminal fraud!

Natural born citizen requirement

Why is this so important? What questions are we to glean from all this? The US Constitution demanded that the President of the United States of America be a natural born citizen having been born on US soil of two parents who were both citizens of this country. Why? Our framers of the Constitution wanted to insure that any executive of the oval office was raised in a home that was completely faithful to the cause of America and whose allegiance was unquestioned.
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128912 Nov 20, 2012
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/now-other-nati...

If President Obama were legitimate
If President Obama were a legal citizen of the United States of America, he wouldn’t have had to spend millions in suppressing laws suits that question his eligibility, he wouldn’t have had to influence the Supreme Court to refuse to hear perfectly valid legal challenges, and he shouldn’t have had to fabricate illegal and fraudulent documents to prove his eligibility, but the evidence is clear. President Obama has broken the law. It is a criminal violation to forge federal documents. It is a crime of high treason to occupy the office of the presidency under false pretense. It is treasonous for that person to have witnessed classified and highly secret intelligence information that is paramount to national security, but Barack Hussein Obama is guilty of everyone of these counts and many more.

The truth about corruption in the White House

This is a despicable testament to the inherent corruption within the US government that has condoned and sanctioned fraudulent actions and has obstructed justice in the process. In addition to President Obama, members of Congress, and the Supreme Court have been complicity in the conspiracy to commit fraud and perpetrate this travesty of justice over the American people. When authorities from other nations can easily see what Obama’s supporters refuse to acknowledge, you can bet this country is in deep trouble and our government has indeed been compromised!
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128913 Nov 20, 2012
How long must this corruption and lawlessness go on in the White House?

It has been since April 28, 2011 that the White House disclosed President Obama’s supposed real long form birth certificate. Once this document had been divulged to the country almost immediately experts began testing its authenticity. Such people as Doug Vogt, a document scanning expert pointed out that there were signature halo effects on particular letters and dates that proved the White House version of Obama’s COLB certificate of live birth had been electronically altered.

International doubt develops

Officials from both Germany and Russia commented that the American government was conducting a fraud upon its own people. The phony COLB came at a time when Hawaii under the demand of many requests by investigators for Obama’s birth certificate stiffened its laws and actually made it more difficult to get one unless stringent actions were taken slowing the process down to weeks. Even Neil Abercrombie, newly elected Governor of Hawaii, could not find Obama's birth certificate. Yet, Obama said in a public statement that he had made special arrangements with the Hawaiian State Health Department to have a copy speeded up and sent to the White House. Many people smelled a rat!

Cold case posse investigates

After 6 months of thorough investigation, Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County Arizona unveiled the results of his cold case posse’s findings. This group of volunteer veteran law enforcement personnel proved that the White House version of Obama’s supposed birth certificate was indeed a fake and had been generated in a computer. They even identified that it was generated in a White House computer to within 20 minutes of the creation date of the document. Arpaio and his people have not stopped there, they have continued their investigation uncovering other lies and inconsistencies that I will mention in another article. Despite liberal attacks that complained that Arpaio’s team was a waste of tax payer’s money, which it wasn’t as the team was providing their services for free, I find it tragically laughable that liberals will waste money on anything to support their cause, but verifying the eligibility of their own president!

University in Israel examines Obama birth scandal

The latest to have a look at the phony White House Obama birth certificate have been Israelis scientists who are now convinced that the Obama administration is committing fraud. Making a statement that President Obama being the leader of the most powerful nation in the western world being at the center of this continuing controversy must surely be a source of concern. As a result, they have employed the efforts of Professor Hanukoglu of the Department of Molecular Biology at Ariel University Center in Ariel, Israel.
They have dedicated a website to the research that went into verifying whether or not the White House document was authentic or not. Their findings were born out of two particular programs easily available to the public Foxit Reader version 4.3.1 or another program Inkscape graphics software version 0.48.1. Both of these programs detected anomalies, inconsistencies in fonts, numbering sequence problems, and super imposed numbering that all prove alteration, and criminal fraud!

Natural born citizen requirement

Why is this so important? What questions are we to glean from all this? The US Constitution demanded that the President of the United States of America be a natural born citizen having been born on US soil of two parents who were both citizens of this country. Why? Our framers of the Constitution wanted to insure that any executive of the oval office was raised in a home that was completely faithful to the cause of America and whose allegiance was unquestioned.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128914 Nov 20, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
However, it is an UNSIGNED document. Who filled it in? On what basis?
It is entirely possible that it was filled in by a clerk who had a quota requirement for Indonesian citizens and who assumed that Obama's religion would be the same as his father's.
One thing that we DO know is that Obama was never an Indonesian Citizen. How do we know that? Because we can call up the Indonesian Embassy in Washington and ASK. I have, and you can check me by doing the same thing yourself. They say that Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. Oh and the stuff birthers claim about having to be an Indonesian citizen to attend school in Indonesia, you can ask about it too. It also is false.
Your list of excuses for this liar grows larger and larger, day by day. GTF out of our country you scum.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#128916 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean the liar and fraud that goes by the name Odumbo? The same tard that refused to help our people in Libya? The same tard that screwed up F&F? The same tard that has more than doubled our debt? The same tard that is afraid to show his past? The same tard that is banging Rice on the side? That one? Yea, he's a real nowhere man! LMAO
He was re-elected President of the USA on November 7 and will be President for the next four years.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128917 Nov 20, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, if I laugh at Play Law that doesn't make me unAmerican.
Sorry, I'm not the only person who thinks Play Law is FOS. The people who matter are the USSC justices, the judges of the United States, the Senate and House, the state election boards, and the vast majority of voters.
Get over it, ineffective loser. Whining and name calling on topix will not accomplish anything for you. Mittens is history. Barack Obama will be a second term President in January, following counting of the electoral votes, certification by Congress, and swearing in by the Chief Justice.
<quoted text>
No "real" American gives a shat about you or your opinion. squid
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#128918 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Your list of excuses for this liar grows larger and larger, day by day. GTF out of our country you scum.
I merely cite the facts. The fact is that Obama was never a citizen of Indonesia, which can easily be determined by calling the Indonesian Embassy. Oh, and despite all the birther claims Obama was re-elected and will continue to be president FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#128919 Nov 20, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
LOL, Birfoon Allen West lost even worse on the recount.
Yea BUT, no one will investigate the criminal allegations of voter fraud. You can count the ballots over and over again but it there are some that are illegal ballots and no one investigates, you will end up with the same results.
In 2008 they caught a poll worker in West Palm Beach with a Vote-A-Matic machine in the trunk of his car but since he was not caught using it, they did not investigate. Ah, what was he doing with a Vote-A-Matic in his trunk in he did not plan on using it?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#128920 Nov 20, 2012
Al Gore Sued by Vote-A-Matic

Even though presidential hopeful Al Gore invented the punch card reading Vote-A-Matic, while in-vitro, that did not prevent the current owners of the voting machine company from filing suit for trademark infringement.

The phrase "A Fair And Accurate Count" was trademarked by the Vote-A-Matic Corporation back in 1906. Throughout the past hundred years, Vote-A-Matic had used the trademarked phrase to differentiate its product from other competing voting sytems.


"The use of our phrase by Al Gore and the Democratic Party was unauthorized" cited M. Albert Hayes, legal council for Vote-A-Matic. "Vote-A-Matic strongly objects to the implications that our machines are less accurate than a human, when counting votes". Apparently sales of Vote-A-Matic machines have dropped precipitously since Mr Gore has put in question the machines accuracy. More information as it becomes available--Staff
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#128921 Nov 20, 2012
Re "Israeli scientists."

They never looked at Obama's birth certificate, and we do not know if they are even scientists. There are some birthers in Israel as there are in the USA.

Only birther "experts"---who have not proved that they are really experts, and who certainly have not proved that they are fair and impartial---say that there is anything wrong with the image of Obama's birth certificate.

The birther "experts" include Paul Irey, who has repeatedly claimed that Obama did not attend Columbia College, despite the fact that Columbia University has stated that Obama did attend (and that he graduated). And they include Doug Vogt, who claims to have found the original altar of Abraham. It is such "experts" as these that the birthers rely on for their case.

There are many real experts who say that there is nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, including John Woodman, who happens to be a member of the Tea Party and who dislikes Obama and Obama's policies, but shows that the birther "experts" are wrong. They also include Ivan Zatkovich, who was hired by WND to examine the image of Obama's birth certificate, and when he submitted his report that there was nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, WND simply did not publish it.

As for Sheriff Joe and his posse:

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama ...

and

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict ...

It is clear that rational conservatives do not believe the "birth certificate was forged" claims. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review certainly do not.

And the conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm specified facts on Obama's birth certificate. Hawaii did, stating that it compared the image of Obama's birth certificate with the file copy (which is an additional confirmation that there was a file copy BTW) and that Obama was born there and that the facts match.

The secretary of state of Arizona accepted this confirmation and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November, and he was--and he was on the ballot in ALL the states (and he won both the electoral college vote and the popular vote by more than two and a half million votes). This indicates that the conservative secretary of state of Arizona does not believe the claims that the birth certificate is forged (including those of Sheriff Joe) and that he does believe the officials in Hawaii.

How do we know that there is a birth certificate for Obama in the files in Hawaii and that it shows that Obama was born in Hawaii??

The first way is the short form birth certificate. That was created by a clerk copying the information off of the original document in the files. If there were no document, there could be no short form birth certificate. Hawaii has confirmed that it sent a short form birth certificate (COLB) to Obama.

The second way is that Hawaii said that there is, several times, under both Republican and Democrat governors.

The third reason is that the current director of health of Hawaii stated in a letter that she had seen the long form birth certificate being created by photocopying onto security paper the original document that was in the files.

The fourth reason is that the existence of Obama's birth certificate in 1961 is proven by the birth notices sent to the newspapers of Hawaii in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii. Only the DOH could send those notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the papers, and the DOH sent only sent those notices for children whom it had issued birth certificates for.

Would you like me to post the citations of the confirmations by the officials in Hawaii?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#128922 Nov 20, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea BUT, no one will investigate the criminal allegations of voter fraud. You can count the ballots over and over again but it there are some that are illegal ballots and no one investigates, you will end up with the same results.
In 2008 they caught a poll worker in West Palm Beach with a Vote-A-Matic machine in the trunk of his car but since he was not caught using it, they did not investigate. Ah, what was he doing with a Vote-A-Matic in his trunk in he did not plan on using it?
Birther claims of vote fraud are like their claims that Obama's birth certificate was forged. Who would think that they would do anything other than claim that there was vote fraud?
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128923 Nov 20, 2012
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/04/criti...

Critics: Obama’s Latest Long-Form Birth Certificate Is a Fake …Update: More Expert Opinion
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:31 PM

Long-form pdf link.http://www.whitehouse.gov /sites/default/files/rss_viewe r/birth-certificate-long-form. pdf

Photoshop expert and author of more than 17 books on computer graphics Mara Z. sent this in:
This is so maddening to listen to the media on this recent revelation… it’s such an obvious fake.

(Click on image for larger view)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/up...

Look at the attached JPG…(which shows what you will see when opening the PDF in Illustrator and how to get there)… but to recap… if you open the PDF in Illustrator (instead of Photoshop)– Select the entire document and go to the Object menu and choose Clipping Mask > Release. Repeat as necessary until all clipping masks are released. Also open the Layer and turn off the visibility of each clipping group and you can see all the numerous places in which information was added (edited) into the form.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/up...

Lastly, look at the attached 1961 sample image found on the Internet of a legitimate 1961 Hawaii Birth Certificate (which someone posted to show what a real certificate would look like from that year in Hawaii)… look at the marks on this Internet version and you can see this was the template for Obama’s BC handiwork. The handwriting is exactly the same between posted Internet image and Obama’s fake version — the placement of boxes and marks are in the exact same position, dates are where the modified clipping masks occur to adjust dates to fit for Obama, but the handwriting of dates match (except for the clipping mask changes). Even the Cert. number is only off by the last two digits (which…you guessed it… happens to be a clipping mask layer).

Finally, also wanted to make the point that regardless of where Obama is born, he’s still not a Natural Born Citizen since both parents were not born on U.S. soil but I won’t hold my breath waiting for the media to educate the public on this fact.

More doubt… Another graphics designer reported it was a fake.

UPDATE: Another expert John G. sent in these comments and this image:
(Click to Enlarge)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/up...

I have been using Adobe Illustrator since the original version (Illustrator 88) came out in 1988.
I have attached a few Illustrator files that I believe will provide evidence that I am indeed an illustrator expert. I can send out the original files if you wish.

The comments made by Mara Z are very interesting. The first question is – what was the source of this pdf file? If the pdf file came from Obama’s people, the claims that this document was “doctored” may indeed be of merit. The first question is, why are there any layers on this document at all? It was clearly created in Photoshop, which is always used for image processing.

The second question is, if you look at the file I have sent as Obama Certificate Actions 01, you can see in the actions palette that there were 24 actions performed on this file before it was made into a pdf. Many of the actions are not Illustrator functions, but are Photoshop actions. Thus, this file was created in Photoshop, and exported as Photoshop 5 (why, that’s a very old version?) and it was next saved for the web (a Photoshop action) three times.

Again, first, we need to ascertain where this file came from.
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128924 Nov 20, 2012
International doubt develops

Officials from both Germany and Russia commented that the American government was conducting a fraud upon its own people. The phony COLB came at a time when Hawaii under the demand of many requests by investigators for Obama’s birth certificate stiffened its laws and actually made it more difficult to get one unless stringent actions were taken slowing the process down to weeks. Even Neil Abercrombie, newly elected Governor of Hawaii, could not find Obama's birth certificate. Yet, Obama said in a public statement that he had made special arrangements with the Hawaiian State Health Department to have a copy speeded up and sent to the White House. Many people smelled a rat!
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128925 Nov 20, 2012
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA636.html

Voter Fraud is Real: Why the Voting Rights Act Should Be Used to Fight Election Fraud

by Horace Cooper

Election fraud in America is no laughing matter. Florida election officials have discovered that the state's voter polls have 53,000 dead voters still registered to vote.1 That's a whole city of dead voters still "eligible" to vote – more than the entire population of Pensacola, Florida!
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128926 Nov 20, 2012
Obama's 'Long-Form Birth Certificate' is Fake, Claims Israeli Website

http://www.christianpost.com/news/obamas-long...

A webpage belonging to the Israel Science and Technology website states that after careful analysis, they found that the "long form birth certificate" that was produced by the White House is actually a forged document.

Contained in the website is an explanation as to why a closer examination of the document in question was conducted.

After the White House released the Presidents birth certificate in April 2011, following several years of inquiry, it "raised in our minds the possibility that there could be something suspicious about the information available on this document."

The website was created by Dr. Israel Hanukoglu, a former science adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Hanukoglu is a professor of biochemistry and molecular biology at Ariel University in Ariel, Israel.

The website was first created during Hanukoglu's time as an advisor to Netanyahu and since then has been regarded as the leading science and technology resource for many Israelis.

A statement contained on the webpage details the sensitive nature of the work and also highlights the role a science and technology website has in determining legitimacy of such an important document.
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"Mr. Obama is the president of the USA that is currently the leader of the Free World, and the most powerful country in the Western hemisphere," the site says. "In his position as the President, the policies pursued by Mr. Obama affects the whole world and not just the USA."

"The publication of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reins on the most powerful country of the World," the statement continued.

The controversy surrounding Obama's birth certificate has not died down and in some aspects has actually intensified. The speculation around the validity of the document has been fueled by many prominent individuals including several congressional representatives as well as media personalities.
Grand Birther

United States

#128927 Nov 20, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, but in the case of the State Mandate part of ObamaCare, it has been ruled UN-Constitutional!
I'm certain you don't even know what you're talking about.

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