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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128891 Nov 20, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical banned GB and assorted birther replies when they are stuffed and at a loss for words :
Communist
Socialist
Lefty
Gay
Muslim
"tard" and "libtard" (Rogue tm reg'd)
Etc
jacqazz, you're such a waste. More appropriately, you are waste!
Grand Birther

United States

#128892 Nov 20, 2012
LOL, Birfoon Allen West lost even worse on the recount.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128893 Nov 20, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
" what an American is " you write. Who do you think you are? You think you are the typical American? The typical Americans, for your information, are the women, the men, who elected Obama. You're a minority. And what's more, were the election re-held today, Obama would garner over 60% of the vote, what with the electors now finding out what a poor statesman and loser Romney is, with a 5-point increase for Obama solely based on his caveman post-election statements like "buying 60 million votes", some of them with condoms. President Obama won. Say it. Chew it. Swallow it. Digest it and make it come out Romney at the other end.
<quoted text>
That's our gain, and the USA's loss. Stay right where you are.
And wherever I'm from, it does not invalidate what I wrote, just makes it more so. If I say the earth is round, being from Canada does not invalidate that statement. If I come out with the above post from Canada, its contents are still factual. What's more, and here it comes from Canada, you are a twisted ignorant crass vulgar oaf. Undeniable, as you showcase it every day .
You're invalidated jacqazz. You're nothing more than a piece of crap.
Grand Birther

United States

#128894 Nov 20, 2012
LOL, birfoons have never heard of the Supremacy Clause.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128895 Nov 20, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Yesiree! unAmerican Trash: USSC justices, judges of the United States, the Senate and House, the majority of voters.
Wimp-assed loser. You lost. Get over it. Grow up!
<quoted text>
How does any of that garbage apply to you being unAmerican trash? It doesn't. You've only learned like two or three American phrases, right? I mean, you repeat yourself over and over. Same old BS each time. Pathetic.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#128896 Nov 20, 2012
American Lady wrote:
ELECTION 2012
HOW OBAMA CAN BE STOPPED IN ELECTORAL COLLEGE
Exclusive: Judson Phillips offers constitutional means to put Romney in office Jan. 21
Barack Obama has not yet been re-elected president.
Yes, the election is over – but remember, a presidential election in America is not by popular vote. We vote for the candidate, but what we are really doing is voting for the electors who will meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December.
That is when the actual re-election of the president occurs.
Is there a way to stop this?
Yes, there is.
And the best part – this is totally constitutional.
The 12th Amendment of the Constitution as well as Article II of the Constitution govern the Electoral College.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/how-obama-can-be-s...
Remember ...
I will NOT say
(i told you so)
;~)
Birthers tried this four years ago. It did not work then. It will not work now. In their attempt to change the votes of the Electoral College, birthers tried a letter-writing campaign to the Electors. And the result? They did not change a single vote. Not one. The votes of the Electors were exactly the same as the Electoral College vote from the popular election.

But you have the right to try, and to dream.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128897 Nov 20, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
LOL, birfoons have never heard of the Supremacy Clause.
Wet Spot! How's it leaking today? LOL

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#128898 Nov 20, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
LOL, birfoons have never heard of the Supremacy Clause.
Yep, but in the case of the State Mandate part of ObamaCare, it has been ruled UN-Constitutional!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128899 Nov 20, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Birthers tried this four years ago. It did not work then. It will not work now. In their attempt to change the votes of the Electoral College, birthers tried a letter-writing campaign to the Electors. And the result? They did not change a single vote. Not one. The votes of the Electors were exactly the same as the Electoral College vote from the popular election.
But you have the right to try, and to dream.
Odumbo is a fraud.
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128900 Nov 20, 2012
Barack Obama attended this Catholic school in Jakarta, Indonesia before transferring to Besuki Public School.

He was registered at Fransiskus Assisi under the name Barry Soetoro by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.

The document lists Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and shows his Muslim step-father listed Barack Obama's religion as Islam.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128901 Nov 20, 2012
Egypt is not to be trusted anymore than the other Middle East countries! Perverts, liars and savages.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#128902 Nov 20, 2012
American Lady wrote:
ELECTION 2012
HOW OBAMA CAN BE STOPPED IN ELECTORAL COLLEGE
Exclusive: Judson Phillips offers constitutional means to put Romney in office Jan. 21
Barack Obama has not yet been re-elected president.
Yes, the election is over – but remember, a presidential election in America is not by popular vote. We vote for the candidate, but what we are really doing is voting for the electors who will meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December.
That is when the actual re-election of the president occurs.
Is there a way to stop this?
Yes, there is.
And the best part – this is totally constitutional.
The 12th Amendment of the Constitution as well as Article II of the Constitution govern the Electoral College.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/how-obama-can-be-s...
Remember ...
I will NOT say
(i told you so)
;~)
However, the article is wrong.

There is NOTHING, not a word, in the U.S. Constitution about there being a quorum requirement for the Electoral College. There IS a quorum requirement for the House of Representatives if there is no person receiving a majority of the votes of the Electoral College. But there is no mention of a quorum for the Electoral College.

Oh, and birthers actually did try to have the Electors of the Electoral College change their votes to vote against Obama four years ago. There was a letter-writing campaign at that time. And the result of it? The result was that the campaign did NOT change a single vote. The votes by the Electors were exactly the same as the Electoral Vote in the general election.
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128903 Nov 20, 2012
Arpaio: Investigation proves Obama birth certificate a fake

Posted: Thursday, March 1, 2012 3:58 pm | Updated: 10:52 am, Tue Mar 6, 2012.

By Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services | 58 comments
PHOENIX — The birth certificate which Barack Obama says proves he is a U.S. citizen is a fraud, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio charged Thursday.

The sheriff said a forensic examination of the electronic document posted last year by the White House proves that it was not simply scanned into a file but actually put together in several pieces. And Mike Zullo, head of the sheriff’s Cold Case Posse who headed the investigation, said the inconsistencies in the document cannot be explained away by claims that it was optimized or had been scanned with optical character recognition software.

Zullo also said a separate examination proves Obama’s selective service also is a fake.

But the sheriff, while saying the evidence proves that a crime was committed, was careful not to implicate the president.

“I’m not accusing anyone of anything until we find out who may have committed these alleged crimes over this birth certificate and the selective service card,” Arpaio said.

“Someone did it — if it’s false,” he continued, adding “we made a pretty good case here.”
And Arpaio brushed aside a question of why he was able to find such evidence when no one else in the country has. The sheriff said he probably was the only one who bothered to investigate in detail.
“Show me how far they went,” Arpaio said of other.“And show me any law enforcement agency that looked into it.”

Zullo also said the fact the Honolulu newspaper had a birth announcement at the time proves nothing, saying the newspaper accepted such messages without requiring proof the person actually had been born in the state.
And asked how Obama managed to get a passport without a valid birth certificate, all Zullo could say is,“that’s a great question.”

And Zullo insisted that Arpaio has jurisdiction.
He said the White House, under pressure, never produced an actual document for people to examine.
“They produced an electronic file,” Zullo said.
“The fact that that document was put up on the web site of the White House for distribution to anyone in the country, the world, who wanted to see it, was a representation made to the people of Maricopa County, including a press conference where the president himself attests,‘this is my document, proof positive,’” Zullo said.

“You fraud one person in Maricopa County with that, you fraud every person in Maricopa County.”
Zullo stressed, though,“we are not accusing Mr. Obama of creating this document.” he said.

Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix, called the finding “extremely troubling.” Seel said he hopes the sheriff’s findings breathe new life into legislation he and Sen. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, have been pushing to require some evidence that all candidates whould have to prove they are “natural born citizens” of the United States before their names are placed on the ballot.
He said even if questions of Obama’s birth certificate are never resolved, he believes the inquiry shows the need for better vetting of candidates “to make sure in the future we maintain the integrity of our ballot.” More to the point, Seel wants legislation to empower the government to enforce the constitutional requirements for presidency.

The White House, which thought the issue had been put to sleep with the posting of the birth certificate, had no comment.

Arpaio said he is not saying the president is serving illegally — exactly. But he said that, given the findings about his birth certificate and selective service registration, he wants the president to produce some conclusive evidence of his citizenship.
Zullo said that could include actual microfilm of documents, with his office able to test the film to verify its age and authenticity. Hospital records also would be acceptable.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#128904 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
Barack Obama attended this Catholic school in Jakarta, Indonesia before transferring to Besuki Public School.
He was registered at Fransiskus Assisi under the name Barry Soetoro by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.
The document lists Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and shows his Muslim step-father listed Barack Obama's religion as Islam.
However, it is an UNSIGNED document. Who filled it in? On what basis?

It is entirely possible that it was filled in by a clerk who had a quota requirement for Indonesian citizens and who assumed that Obama's religion would be the same as his father's.

One thing that we DO know is that Obama was never an Indonesian Citizen. How do we know that? Because we can call up the Indonesian Embassy in Washington and ASK. I have, and you can check me by doing the same thing yourself. They say that Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. Oh and the stuff birthers claim about having to be an Indonesian citizen to attend school in Indonesia, you can ask about it too. It also is false.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128905 Nov 20, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
However, the article is wrong.
There is NOTHING, not a word, in the U.S. Constitution about there being a quorum requirement for the Electoral College. There IS a quorum requirement for the House of Representatives if there is no person receiving a majority of the votes of the Electoral College. But there is no mention of a quorum for the Electoral College.
Oh, and birthers actually did try to have the Electors of the Electoral College change their votes to vote against Obama four years ago. There was a letter-writing campaign at that time. And the result of it? The result was that the campaign did NOT change a single vote. The votes by the Electors were exactly the same as the Electoral Vote in the general election.
Odumbo is a lying piece of scum. At least we know what you stand for.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#128906 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Odumbo is a fraud.
Dream on.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128907 Nov 20, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
However, the article is wrong.
There is NOTHING, not a word, in the U.S. Constitution about there being a quorum requirement for the Electoral College. There IS a quorum requirement for the House of Representatives if there is no person receiving a majority of the votes of the Electoral College. But there is no mention of a quorum for the Electoral College.
Oh, and birthers actually did try to have the Electors of the Electoral College change their votes to vote against Obama four years ago. There was a letter-writing campaign at that time. And the result of it? The result was that the campaign did NOT change a single vote. The votes by the Electors were exactly the same as the Electoral Vote in the general election.
Oh, I forgot; "well, even if he did say it, he would be wrong"! LMAO!!!
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128908 Nov 20, 2012
Posted: Thursday, March 1, 2012 3:58 pm | Updated: 10:52 am, Tue Mar 6, 2012.
By Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services | 58 comments
PHOENIX — The birth certificate which Barack Obama says proves he is a U.S. citizen is a fraud, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio charged Thursday.
The sheriff said a forensic examination of the electronic document posted last year by the White House proves that it was not simply scanned into a file but actually put together in several pieces. And Mike Zullo, head of the sheriff’s Cold Case Posse who headed the investigation, said the inconsistencies in the document cannot be explained away by claims that it was optimized or had been scanned with optical character recognition software.
Zullo also said a separate examination proves Obama’s selective service also is a fake.
But the sheriff, while saying the evidence proves that a crime was committed, was careful not to implicate the president.
“I’m not accusing anyone of anything until we find out who may have committed these alleged crimes over this birth certificate and the selective service card,” Arpaio said.
“Someone did it — if it’s false,” he continued, adding “we made a pretty good case here.”
And Arpaio brushed aside a question of why he was able to find such evidence when no one else in the country has. The sheriff said he probably was the only one who bothered to investigate in detail.
“Show me how far they went,” Arpaio said of other.“And show me any law enforcement agency that looked into it.”
Zullo also said the fact the Honolulu newspaper had a birth announcement at the time proves nothing, saying the newspaper accepted such messages without requiring proof the person actually had been born in the state.
And asked how Obama managed to get a passport without a valid birth certificate, all Zullo could say is,“that’s a great question.”
And Zullo insisted that Arpaio has jurisdiction.
He said the White House, under pressure, never produced an actual document for people to examine.
“They produced an electronic file,” Zullo said.
“The fact that that document was put up on the web site of the White House for distribution to anyone in the country, the world, who wanted to see it, was a representation made to the people of Maricopa County, including a press conference where the president himself attests,‘this is my document, proof positive,’” Zullo said.
“You fraud one person in Maricopa County with that, you fraud every person in Maricopa County.”
Zullo stressed, though,“we are not accusing Mr. Obama of creating this document.” he said.
Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix, called the finding “extremely troubling.” Seel said he hopes the sheriff’s findings breathe new life into legislation he and Sen. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, have been pushing to require some evidence that all candidates whould have to prove they are “natural born citizens” of the United States before their names are placed on the ballot.
He said even if questions of Obama’s birth certificate are never resolved, he believes the inquiry shows the need for better vetting of candidates “to make sure in the future we maintain the integrity of our ballot.” More to the point, Seel wants legislation to empower the government to enforce the constitutional requirements for presidency.
The White House, which thought the issue had been put to sleep with the posting of the birth certificate, had no comment.
Arpaio said he is not saying the president is serving illegally — exactly. But he said that, given the findings about his birth certificate and selective service registration, he wants the president to produce some conclusive evidence of his citizenship.
Zullo said that could include actual microfilm of documents, with his office able to test the film to verify its age and authenticity. Hospital records also would be acceptable.
LRS

Clearlake, CA

#128909 Nov 20, 2012
“We do not have a single document, absent that birth certificate which we do not believe was ever an authenticated document, that proves Mr. Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the United States for that matter,” said Zullo.
“At this juncture, we have advised Sheriff Arpaio we believe there should be a full-blown criminal investigation because a fraud has been committed in Maricopa County and the State of Arizona,” he said.“The document is fake. The representations, therefore, are fake.”

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#128910 Nov 20, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
How does any of that garbage apply to you being unAmerican trash? It doesn't. You've only learned like two or three American phrases, right? I mean, you repeat yourself over and over. Same old BS each time. Pathetic.
Sorry, if I laugh at Play Law that doesn't make me unAmerican.

Sorry, I'm not the only person who thinks Play Law is FOS. The people who matter are the USSC justices, the judges of the United States, the Senate and House, the state election boards, and the vast majority of voters.

Get over it, ineffective loser. Whining and name calling on topix will not accomplish anything for you. Mittens is history. Barack Obama will be a second term President in January, following counting of the electoral votes, certification by Congress, and swearing in by the Chief Justice.
wojar wrote:
Yesiree! unAmerican Trash: USSC justices, judges of the United States, the Senate and House, the majority of voters.
Wimp-assed loser. You lost. Get over it. Grow up!

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