BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#128767 Nov 19, 2012
Affirmative Diversity wrote:
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Who gives a crap, that was only an example of one of the things that is wrong with health care.
7 years is too long for a company to get outrageous profits off of medications.
Tax dollars are used to research and develop most medications anyway.
A year with exclusive manufacturing and marketing rights is plenty of time to recoup the costs associated with the research and develop of new medications.
If generics were available after a year the cost of medications would go down tremendously.
Unlike Alice in Wonderland, simply saying something is so doesn't make it so.

“The average drug developed by a major pharmaceutical company costs at least $4 billion, and it can be as much as $11 billion.”
AstraZeneca has spent $12 villion in research money for every new drug developed in the last 15 years. Costs for Amgen have averaged $3.7 billion.
For Amgen, the aver cost is $3.7 billion, according to Bernard Munos at InnoThink. See http://www.fiercebiotech.com/story/high-cost-...
One of the cheapest drugs to be developed was Dificid at $175 million. Sales in the first five months were $24 million. >>>>>Even if development costs were the only costs (no manufacturing costs, no advertising costs, no post-market surveillance, no law suits, etc.), a one year patent term would have resulted in a net loss.<<<<< <<

Even if R&D costs only associated with development of specific drugs brought to market are considered (that is, ignoring the cost of failures), the average cost per drug is over $1 billion.
C.f., http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/rethinking-he...
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#128768 Nov 19, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
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And dufusDale is wrong about more things
A Constitutional Republic is a state where the officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.

A Constitutional Republic is the current form of government in the United States. However in recent years, many people have criticized the federal government for moving away from a Constitutional Republic, as defined by the Constitution, and towards a pure democracy

"Subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", simply means the US Constitution.

As stated in the Preamble, the Constitution is only for the citizens of the US, aliens are not subjects of, nor subject to its jurisdiction.

The 14th plainly states who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the Constitution, aliens are not.

Ark was DOA, when the USSC tired to change the meaning of "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", this can only be accomplished through an amendment.

Obama was born subject to a foreign power, this condition has never changed during his life, he was never naturalized.

The Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship status.

The US Government can not strip the citizenship from an individual, unless requested by that indiuvidual.

Sorry, Obama is an alien and so are his children.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#128769 Nov 19, 2012
The Average drug development coast of $4 Bil was from Forbes 2/10/2012.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/201...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#128773 Nov 19, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>A Constitutional Republic is a state where the officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.

A Constitutional Republic is the current form of government in the United States. However in recent years, many people have criticized the federal government for moving away from a Constitutional Republic, as defined by the Constitution, and towards a pure democracy

"Subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", simply means the US Constitution.

As stated in the Preamble, the Constitution is only for the citizens of the US, aliens are not subjects of, nor subject to its jurisdiction.

The 14th plainly states who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the Constitution, aliens are not.

Ark was DOA, when the USSC tired to change the meaning of "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", this can only be accomplished through an amendment.

Obama was born subject to a foreign power, this condition has never changed during his life, he was never naturalized.

The Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship status.

The US Government can not strip the citizenship from an individual, unless requested by that indiuvidual.

Sorry, Obama is an alien and so are his children.
DufusDale pastes in the same tired lie again. Sucks to be DufusDale
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#128776 Nov 19, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
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DufusDale pastes in the same tired lie again. Sucks to be DufusDale
so you believe the Constitution lies! Proves you are a Marxist-Socialist Commie!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#128779 Nov 19, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>so you believe the Constitution lies! Proves you are a Marxist-Socialist Commie!
Proves you are a pathetic illiterate moron

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Boston, MA

#128780 Nov 19, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>
A Constitutional Republic is a state where the officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.
A Constitutional Republic is the current form of government in the United States. However in recent years, many people have criticized the federal government for moving away from a Constitutional Republic, as defined by the Constitution, and towards a pure democracy
"Subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", simply means the US Constitution.
As stated in the Preamble, the Constitution is only for the citizens of the US, aliens are not subjects of, nor subject to its jurisdiction.
The 14th plainly states who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the Constitution, aliens are not.
Ark was DOA, when the USSC tired to change the meaning of "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", this can only be accomplished through an amendment.
Obama was born subject to a foreign power, this condition has never changed during his life, he was never naturalized.
The Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship status.
The US Government can not strip the citizenship from an individual, unless requested by that indiuvidual.
Sorry, Obama is an alien and so are his children.
And a lunatic makes up play law to suit his fantasy world.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#128781 Nov 19, 2012
wojar wrote:
The Average drug development coast of $4 Bil was from Forbes 2/10/2012.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/201...
Yep, and Americans pay 100% of the development COST. And then other countries, like Canada, twist the arms of the drug makers to cut them a deal. Yep, while we pay full price, most other countries do not.
Grand Birther

Cleveland, OH

#128783 Nov 19, 2012
Affirmative Dumbass wrote:
<quoted text>
Drug development companies also tweak an old drug to create a new one, and then get 7 years of patent protection on that one too.
It is ridiculous.
Most of the drugs are developed with taxpayer dollars and university help a well.
Lol, you and Rogue Bumpkin sound like raging socialists.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#128785 Nov 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Beautiful panorama, thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Shows the president's knack for manners, diplomacy, protocol. A great U.S. Ambassador, a great showcase to the world that, incidentally and in most cases, would've globally accorded him 75% of its vote on Nov 6. Would you somehow find something wrong with the visit to Myanmar and the way it went? Reason I ask is because you're not the type to reflect kindly on anything President Obama does. Is this a new and kinder and particlurlarly more intelligent Guru?
BTW, too bad you didn't get the meaning of the word "flirt" here as used in the despatch.
...you didn't read the rest of it. She is pregnant with obama's baby.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#128786 Nov 19, 2012
The Wicked Witch and Her Boyfriend
Friday, November 9, 2012 at 10:12 am

She's back and she'd like to introduce you to her new boyfriend.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/14066....
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#128788 Nov 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Beautiful panorama, thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Shows the president's knack for manners, diplomacy, protocol. A great U.S. Ambassador, a great showcase to the world that, incidentally and in most cases, would've globally accorded him 75% of its vote on Nov 6. Would you somehow find something wrong with the visit to Myanmar and the way it went? Reason I ask is because you're not the type to reflect kindly on anything President Obama does. Is this a new and kinder and particlurlarly more intelligent Guru?
BTW, too bad you didn't get the meaning of the word "flirt" here as used in the despatch.
no. Just sent it as I thought it was interesting. He looks like he is flirting with her to me. And she is with him. I wonder what Michelle thinks? WHACK!

obama is an idiot Marxist moron. He should be in jail for his documents alone. His constant lying is on the record.

The CIA had it right on Benghazi. obama's goose is cooked and here is why:

Every morning he gets briefed by the CIA. THEY INFORM HIM OF ANY ACTIONS. They did that on Benghazi. The document goes all over the place and it will say it. He lied. He knew immediately on day one and probably minutes after it happened. They had intel on this going to happen foe weeks before it happened on 9/11. He knew it, and he lied. And then he refused our guys help and they are dead. He should be impeached and thrown in jail. Period!

That and dozens of other things he does makes it IMPOSSIBLE for any honest person with any dignity to like him, let alone condone his actions. His changing the documents, including Benghazi's narrative have totally outed this forgery criminal.

My question to you is why do you support a guy like this. He is disgusting, and that is putting it mildly.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#128789 Nov 19, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yep, and Americans pay 100% of the development COST. And then other countries, like Canada, twist the arms of the drug makers to cut them a deal. Yep, while we pay full price, most other countries do not.
Even if your facts were real what is your point?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128790 Nov 19, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
no. Just sent it as I thought it was interesting. He looks like he is flirting with her to me. And she is with him. I wonder what Michelle thinks? WHACK!
obama is an idiot Marxist moron. He should be in jail for his documents alone. His constant lying is on the record.
The CIA had it right on Benghazi. obama's goose is cooked and here is why:
Every morning he gets briefed by the CIA. THEY INFORM HIM OF ANY ACTIONS. They did that on Benghazi. The document goes all over the place and it will say it. He lied. He knew immediately on day one and probably minutes after it happened. They had intel on this going to happen foe weeks before it happened on 9/11. He knew it, and he lied. And then he refused our guys help and they are dead. He should be impeached and thrown in jail. Period!
That and dozens of other things he does makes it IMPOSSIBLE for any honest person with any dignity to like him, let alone condone his actions. His changing the documents, including Benghazi's narrative have totally outed this forgery criminal.
My question to you is why do you support a guy like this. He is disgusting, and that is putting it mildly.
I couldn't agree more. However, I don't think they'll ever impeach the first "Black" President. He will hang himself eventually. Count on it.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#128791 Nov 19, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Only complete dumbazzes who cannot understand what the law says call it play law. Kind of like your occupation, huh? It's just a fantasy! HILARIOUS louse
Right. Dumbazzes like the Congress, the US courts, Secretaries of the States, and state courts who "cannot understand what the law says".
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#128792 Nov 19, 2012
Affirmative Diversity wrote:
Looks like the SNITCHES have been active today.
The SHEEPLE don't like what I have to say about their false messiah.
But alas, I'M BACK!
The 1000th moniker for the banned foul mouth.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#128793 Nov 19, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Jacques, Have you ever quoted any poll? How many pollsters cover local elections? And yes, I have posted a link to that poll several times.
And I have also stated that the winner, Mayor Alvin Brown (D), seems to be doing a pretty good job. The previous mayor, Mayor Peyton, was a Country Clubber RINO.
And you are one sick puppy to bash someone's religion. But it does seem funny is that you only bash Christians.
As far a the USSC being leaked that ObamaCare was 4-5 against it was evident that it was leaked because Obama went into a rage and bashed the USSC. Just look at his demeanor at the beginning of this press conference.
Obama confident Supreme Court will uphold healthcare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Nzw_VMEw-OAXX
Show me where I bashed religion in the post you refer to. I did bash the Moslems a while back, called Mohamad a pedophile. You conventiently forgot that. ALL of your predictions have been wrong and there was no inside info on Roberts changing his mind. Figment of your imagination and you make yourself believe it. Admit Obama won and your boy, unfit for the presidency, lost, and that you did NOT dance in the streets Nov 7. Your loser mayor now occupies a patronized job, the kind you said republicans just don't give. You were wrong on that one too, and stop blaming the newspaper. Wrong, wrong and wrong again and want to know why? Because your judgements are based on hate and prejudice. As per emotions, those are very untrustworthy criteria.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#128794 Nov 19, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Right. Dumbazzes like the Congress, the US courts, Secretaries of the States, and state courts who "cannot understand what the law says".
Ark was an exception. Nothing more. I've been through this with your ignorant azz and don't plan on doing it again. The simple fact is Odumbo has no claim to U.S Citizenship what-so-ever. He is a fraud, just as we've been saying. You know he's a fraud too! The only reason I can see why you support him is because you're against America and its ways. Why don't you unhide that location now? Wouldn't that be interesting? LMAO!!! squid
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#128795 Nov 19, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
...you didn't read the rest of it. She is pregnant with obama's baby.
That is so, so adolescent, so puerile, so immature and nto funny at all. Sad that you could be so ignorant , that you would think that is an intelligent comment. Were it true, and boy, would he had to have worked fast, I couldn't give a sh*t. Not the least important.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#128796 Nov 19, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
no. Just sent it as I thought it was interesting. He looks like he is flirting with her to me. And she is with him. I wonder what Michelle thinks? WHACK!
obama is an idiot Marxist moron. He should be in jail for his documents alone. His constant lying is on the record.
The CIA had it right on Benghazi. obama's goose is cooked and here is why:
Every morning he gets briefed by the CIA. THEY INFORM HIM OF ANY ACTIONS. They did that on Benghazi. The document goes all over the place and it will say it. He lied. He knew immediately on day one and probably minutes after it happened. They had intel on this going to happen foe weeks before it happened on 9/11. He knew it, and he lied. And then he refused our guys help and they are dead. He should be impeached and thrown in jail. Period!
That and dozens of other things he does makes it IMPOSSIBLE for any honest person with any dignity to like him, let alone condone his actions. His changing the documents, including Benghazi's narrative have totally outed this forgery criminal.
My question to you is why do you support a guy like this. He is disgusting, and that is putting it mildly.
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My question to you is why you won't even say he's the November 7 winner. My question to you is the use of that word communist, a passé word, finished, debunked and the only communists left are in North Korean and Cuba, and fading fast. Obama's your president, stop hoping the nation will implode just because you hate him. Very patriotic, by the way.

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