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Since: May 10

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#127526 Nov 15, 2012
American Lady Lies wrote:
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Born and raised in the US, served in the Army in Nam, never been on welfare in my life.
According to you there must be a lot of fools in the US because Obama won by a landslide (according to Karl Rove).
Now let's talk about you. You live in a dirt poor state that takes more federal money than it contributes. You are obviously borderline illiterate and are incapable of debating a point - all you can do is sling lame insults.
You are a right wing extremist, and America does not agree with you or your stance. Even the Republican party is purging the extremists from its ranks. You are a man (debatably) without a party now.
America told you to go take a hike. Please do us all a favor and do so.
Obama did not will by any sort of land slide. Just look at the election of 1984 when Ronald Reagan won 425 Electoral College votes compared to Fritz's 13!!!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#127527 Nov 15, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
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Oh, sure! This just happened during the Obama administration. After all, not a single illegal immigrant entered on GWB's watch, right? And if you say that they DID, then it begs the question; were you as vehement in calling for Bush's ouster?
Did you stop by for another lesson ???:)
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127528 Nov 15, 2012
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127529 Nov 15, 2012
He notes, among many other issues, why did a biography written by Obama for 17 years boast that he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii?

Other questions:

Why have Hawaii officials been unable to get their story straight on the issue
Why do officials refuse to answer his questions about Obama’s records?
Why has no doctor or nurse ever come forward to talk about the birth?
Why was Obama’s first executive order as president instructions to seal his own records from the public?
Why are his birth records, baptismal records, adoption records, kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia University thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passports, medical records, files as an Illinois state senator and his Illinois state bar association records all concealed?
Why was Hawaii’s governor unable to keep his word when he said he would find Obama’s records and confirm his status?
Why are the National Archives records for immigration from 1961 – during the three days around Obama’s birth – missing?
Why has nothing been done regarding the law enforcement conclusions that “President Obama’s long-form birth certificate is a computer-generated document; that it was manufactured piecemeal and electronically; and that it did not originate as a copy of a true paper record from a bound volume…”
What is the significance of the fact that Obama’s birth record number is out of sequence?

The government petition website suddenly became a news item because residents in all 50 states are petitioning there for permission for their states to leave the union.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127530 Nov 15, 2012
Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement System PDF Print E-mail

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.

"This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could," explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, "However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up."

A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a "government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments’ Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation)." She proclaimed that even "private annuities are problematic."

Such "reforms" would effectively end private retirement accounts in America, Crone warns. "These people want the government to require that ultimately all Americans buy these government annuities instead of saving or investing on their own. The Government could then take these trillions of dollars and redistribute it through this new national retirement system."

Deputy Treasury Secretary J. Mark Iwry, who presided over the hearing, is a long-time critic of 401k plans because he believes they benefit the rich. He also appears to be one of the Administration’s point man on this issue.

"This whole issue is moving forward very quickly," warns Crone. "Already there is a bill requiring all businesses to automatically enroll their employees in IRA plans in which part of every employee’s paycheck would be automatically deducted and deposited into this account. If this passes, the government will be just one step away from being able to confiscate all these retirement accounts."

NSC has taken the lead in warning the nation about this new government onslaught and is plotting ways to stop it.

"This effort ultimately is designed to grab the retirement nest eggs of America’s senior citizens. This new government annuity scheme, even if it is at first optional, will turn into a giant effort to redistribute the wealth of America’s older citizens," explains Crone. "This scheme mirrors what I expect the President will try to do with Social Security. He wants to turn that program into a welfare program, too."

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#127531 Nov 16, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
The usurper can't lie well without his teleprompter.
In fact, that is the only time that he tells a smidgeon of truth.
Yeah, he sent Rice out there to perpetuate his lie.
The truth went against his campaign rhetoric.
Al Qaida is not on the run, but 4 Americans are dead, because when the phone rang asking for help, Obama could not stop campaigning.
America is so dumbed down that they re-elected this failure.
Unfuckingbelievable!
Impeach Obama for allowing 4 Americans to be murdered while he did nothing to help them, while being derelict in his duty, and for then sending Rice out to lie about what had occurred, in order to protect his campaign rhetoric lie that Al Qaida was on the run, all while continuing to campaign like nothing had happened.
Obama gone 2017!

You funny man GB.

Make me laugh long time.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127532 Nov 16, 2012
Poppo wrote:
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Obama gone 2017!
You funny man GB.
Make me laugh long time.
I give him about 12-18 months the way he is going...

Either way this dude is gonna wish he never stole that election ...especially if he gets impeached which looks very likely depending on what Patraeus says today.

Maybe Biden will lend us his chains to help drag him out of the WH and send him back to Kenya where he belongs.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127533 Nov 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Hello, hello, is there anybody in there?
We have strict immigration laws that are simply being ignored by this admin.
Terry Buckeye wrote:
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Oh, sure! This just happened during the Obama administration. After all, not a single illegal immigrant entered on GWB's watch, right? And if you say that they DID, then it begs the question; were you as vehement in calling for Bush's ouster?
No, two wrongs to not make a wright. And that is one of the things Bush did not do that made me unhappy with him.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#127534 Nov 16, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
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I don't agree with anything you said, but I find this statement to be absolutely breathtakingly appalling, as well as very telling about your mental state.
Have you seen Obama's college grades, because you would be the only known person to have done so.
You have no data from college on which to base your assumption, and that is all that it is, AN ASSUMPTION!
We have real data from his first term, and none of it would cause one to conclude that your assumption is correct either.
In fact that data would force one to concede that the exact opposite was true.
Obama is either a genius orchestrating the downfall of America without anyone else knowing it, or he is seriously stupid.
Since I, and many others, know that he is orchestrating the downfall of America, we can rule out that he is a genius, and the known data proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is seriously stupid, just like you.
Delude yourself much?
What we all know for sure is that Obama is a winner and you, McCain and Romney are not just losers, but by every measure appear to be sore losers . LOL

Obama gone 2017!

You funny man GB.

Make me laugh long time.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127535 Nov 16, 2012
Guru wrote:
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Harvard Law...the TV show dummy.
No idea what that is. Am I missing something?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127536 Nov 16, 2012
Testimony today wrote:
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Testimony today proved Obama was aware of the terrorist attacks by the CIA at 5pm on 9/11/12. He lied.
Thought it was behind closed doors. You birthers have so much "inside information". Thanks for sharing it ha ha.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127537 Nov 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Oh, we love good news, there just hasn't been any in four years. Really.
How about the DJIA doubling in less than 4 years? How about the lowest oil import dependency in 20 years and increased local production? How about a start to universal health care for everyone, which would be 100% but Repubs said no?; how about successful rescue of Big 3 and increase in Chrysler hiring and refuting Romhey campaign lies about move to China? How about Bin Laden and his lieutenants' deaths? How about withdrawal from Iraq though GWB had forgotten to craft an exit plan? How about soon-to-come withdrawal from Afghanistan? Do you want more? Plenty waiting in the wings.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127538 Nov 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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When has he ever told the truth?
When have YOU ever told the truth? What about that whopper on "inside knowledge" on how the Supremes intended to kill Obamacare? You lied on that one, huge one, for which we have not heard from you. Now this testimony behind closed doors comming out the same day? One of you birthers fantasized what was said, posted it on some looney web site no doubt and you voracious hyenas pounced all over it. When it is all proven false, I expect we won't hear further from you.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127539 Nov 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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When has he ever told the truth?
and, yes, Rogue, did you not say that the General would NOT testify? Did you not? Will I hear from you on this one?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127540 Nov 16, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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This is the same kind of inside information that Rogue got on the supreme court, the 9 supremes agreeing on day 1 that they would vote down Obama care. So much inside info, these birthers, like the last presidential election. Wrong. All the way, and then they get upset that they were, are wrong and talk fraud, lies, etc. How it must suck to be wrong, not most of the time, but ALL the time.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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That was correct. And then Obama blackmail Chief Justice Roberts to change sides.
Do you even realise how insane that is? What was the blackmail about?

Oh, btw, do you have proof that Obama blackmailed the chief justice or is it once more a figment of your wild hate-Obama imagination? Will he blackmail him again for the coming inauguration? Put up, Rogue, proof that he blackmailed the chief justice and your sources.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#127541 Nov 16, 2012
Washington (AP)- Former CIA director David Petraeus will testify before the House Intelligence Committee Friday on events that led to the death of the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans in an attack on the United State's Consulate at Benghazi, Libya on Sept. 11.
Spokesmen for the committee say the hearing will be closed to the public.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#127542 Nov 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Obama did not will by any sort of land slide. Just look at the election of 1984 when Ronald Reagan won 425 Electoral College votes compared to Fritz's 13!!!
Although many professional prognosticators see President Obama as the favorite tomorrow, some notable conservatives are dissenting. THEIR MAPS SHOW EVERYTHING FROM A SLIM WIN BY MITT ROMNEY WITH 275 ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES TO A 325-VOTE LANDSLIDE, with some maps putting Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and even Michigan in play.
http://www.denverpost.com/politics-national/2...

Romney’s 325 fantasy win would be a landslide but Obama’s 332 actual win is not? Nice try Rogue!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127543 Nov 16, 2012
Guru wrote:
part 3/3-
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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia has said there is no such right. But historians would note that Thomas Jefferson said states “should separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers.”
His letter, posted online at Constitution.org , sheds light on the arguments raised on the Obama administration’s online petition site, where dozens of petitions are seeking permission for virtually all of the states to leave the union.
Jefferson wrote about the expansion of power then by the federal government “towards the usurpation of all the rights reserved to the States, and the consolidation in itself of all powers, foreign and domestic; and that too, by constructions which, if legitimate, leave no limits to their power.”
He continued:“Take together the decisions of the federal court, the doctrines of the president, and the misconstructions of the constitutional Compact acted on by the legislature of the federal branch, and it is but too evident, that the three ruling branches of that department are in combination to strip their colleagues, the State authorities; of the powers reserved by them, and to exercise themselves all functions foreign and domestic.”
He targeted the same authority that Obama has cited in his promotion of Obamacare:“Under the power to regulate commerce, they assume indefinitely that also over agriculture and manufactures, and call it regulation to take the earnings of one of these branches of industry, and that, too, the most depressed, and put them into the pockets of the other, the most flourishing of all.
“Under the authority to establish post roads, they claim that of cutting down mountains for the construction of roads, of digging canals, and aided by a little sophistry on the words ‘general welfare,’ a right to do, not only the acts to effect that, which are specifically enumerated and permitted, but whatsoever they shall think, or pretend will be for the general welfare. And what is our resource for the preservation of the Constitution?”
Political debate at that point, reasoned Jefferson, was futile.
“Reason and argument? You might as well reason and argue with the marble columns encircling them. The representatives chosen by ourselves? They are joined in the combination, some from incorrect views of government, some from corrupt ones, sufficient voting together to outnumber the sound parts; and with majorities only of one, two, or three, bold enough to go forward in defiance.”
And he continued:“[We must] keep ourselves in a situation to profit by the chapter of accidents; and separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers. Between these two evils, when we must make a choice, there can be no hesitation.”
NOW THAT IS FUNNIER THAT HELL!!!
You do realise that no one will read this trash, do you? Not even you, bleary-eyed after one paragraph.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#127544 Nov 16, 2012
Jacques,
"Closed to the public" means behind closed-doors.
loose
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127545 Nov 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yep, there are 1.5 million unenforced court deportation orders.
Join the worldwide club, Rogue. Any reason why you should be different from other so-called "have" countries?

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