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BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127515 Nov 15, 2012
part 2/3-

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And he charged that Hawaii officials “changed their policies and procedures in a manner calculated to hinder our law-enforcement investigation.”

In addition to simply refusing to discuss the issue or respond to questions, state officials also have issued contradictory statements. And state lawmakers went so far as to exempt employees from answering questions about the issue.

Zullo’s investigation documents how in 1961, state law allowed Hawaiian parents of children born anywhere in the world to register them as Hawaiian-born, a legalized backdoor to U.S. citizenship. Article II of the U.S. Constitution insists that only a “natural-born citizen” can serve as president.

Zullo’s posse already has reported to the sheriff that two crimes have been committed: first, fraudulently creating a forgery that the White House had characterized, knowingly or unknowingly, as an officially produced governmental birth record; and secondly, fraudulently presenting to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery that the White House had represented as “proof positive” of Obama’s authentic 1961 Hawaiian long-form birth certificate.

Zullo concludes that the whole question could be settled quickly and decisively if Hawaii would let his forensic specialists examine Obama’s original birth certificate and hospital birth record.

In Zullo’s 16-page statement, he notes that 250 residents of the state asked the sheriff to investigate possible illegalities. But he said virtually all of the pertinent records about Obama have been ordered sealed and Obama’s attorneys have refused access to documents that typically are available regarding presidents.

He notes, among many other issues, why did a biography written by Obama for 17 years boast that he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii?

Other questions:

Why have Hawaii officials been unable to get their story straight on the issue
Why do officials refuse to answer his questions about Obama’s records?
Why has no doctor or nurse ever come forward to talk about the birth?
Why was Obama’s first executive order as president instructions to seal his own records from the public?
Why are his birth records, baptismal records, adoption records, kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia University thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passports, medical records, files as an Illinois state senator and his Illinois state bar association records all concealed?
Why was Hawaii’s governor unable to keep his word when he said he would find Obama’s records and confirm his status?
Why are the National Archives records for immigration from 1961 – during the three days around Obama’s birth – missing?
Why has nothing been done regarding the law enforcement conclusions that “President Obama’s long-form birth certificate is a computer-generated document; that it was manufactured piecemeal and electronically; and that it did not originate as a copy of a true paper record from a bound volume…”
What is the significance of the fact that Obama’s birth record number is out of sequence?

The government petition website suddenly became a news item because residents in all 50 states are petitioning there for permission for their states to leave the union....

continued to last part-
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127516 Nov 15, 2012
part 3/3-

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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia has said there is no such right. But historians would note that Thomas Jefferson said states “should separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers.”

His letter, posted online at Constitution.org , sheds light on the arguments raised on the Obama administration’s online petition site, where dozens of petitions are seeking permission for virtually all of the states to leave the union.

Jefferson wrote about the expansion of power then by the federal government “towards the usurpation of all the rights reserved to the States, and the consolidation in itself of all powers, foreign and domestic; and that too, by constructions which, if legitimate, leave no limits to their power.”

He continued:“Take together the decisions of the federal court, the doctrines of the president, and the misconstructions of the constitutional Compact acted on by the legislature of the federal branch, and it is but too evident, that the three ruling branches of that department are in combination to strip their colleagues, the State authorities; of the powers reserved by them, and to exercise themselves all functions foreign and domestic.”

He targeted the same authority that Obama has cited in his promotion of Obamacare:“Under the power to regulate commerce, they assume indefinitely that also over agriculture and manufactures, and call it regulation to take the earnings of one of these branches of industry, and that, too, the most depressed, and put them into the pockets of the other, the most flourishing of all.

“Under the authority to establish post roads, they claim that of cutting down mountains for the construction of roads, of digging canals, and aided by a little sophistry on the words ‘general welfare,’ a right to do, not only the acts to effect that, which are specifically enumerated and permitted, but whatsoever they shall think, or pretend will be for the general welfare. And what is our resource for the preservation of the Constitution?”

Political debate at that point, reasoned Jefferson, was futile.

“Reason and argument? You might as well reason and argue with the marble columns encircling them. The representatives chosen by ourselves? They are joined in the combination, some from incorrect views of government, some from corrupt ones, sufficient voting together to outnumber the sound parts; and with majorities only of one, two, or three, bold enough to go forward in defiance.”

And he continued:“[We must] keep ourselves in a situation to profit by the chapter of accidents; and separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers. Between these two evils, when we must make a choice, there can be no hesitation.”

NOW THAT IS FUNNIER THAT HELL!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127517 Nov 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello, hello, is there anybody in there?
We have strict immigration laws that are simply being ignored by this admin.
Yep, there are 1.5 million unenforced court deportation orders.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127518 Nov 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
No use explaining, you are too uneducated, too vulgar, to understand.
Hey JOCK ITCH...get a life you steaming TURD!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127519 Nov 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You know nothing ofimmigration laws, of illegal aliens, and the traffic in illegal immigrants cross-border. Your nation has more than its fair share of them, but you are not alone. Check us out. We have the most liberal refugee and illegal immigrant rules in the world. All you have to do is set foot in our country and you're good for 5 years, minimum, you don't have to work, matter of fact, we won't let you, and we pay you to stay,including your legal fees. Look at western Europe, YOU think you have a problem? Have you been to Belgium,France, Italy, lately? Go, take a gander. People are walking, riding, flying, swimming, boating, Rogue. 30 yrs ago, they did not have the communications of today, they didn't know we lived so well off them, off their resources we get for nothing. Now they see us on tv, in the cinemas, and they want their share and they are coming, not coming like LSR the slug, no ,but they are coming here, there, we can't stop them, and neither can you. Get used to it,they want to level the field.
Any country can stop them. Mexico does. Oh, they normally do not get upset if you have plenty of money and do not work. But if you want to work it is far harder to get a permit.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127520 Nov 15, 2012
Hey JOCK ITCH from Ottowa....sit on this and rotate!
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/now-white-house-pe...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127521 Nov 15, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Our Constitution states "High Crimes and Misdemeanors"? Felonies are High Crimes"! Bill Clinton committed at least six felonies. Those are ground for impeachment.
G.W. Bush was the Commander in Chief in a time of war and he did what he had to do and did not commit even one misdemeanor much less one felony. If he did, name the specific crime you allege he committed!
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
GWB initiated a war for no good reason. He and he alone is responsible for all those useless deaths, destruction,$1.2 billion cost and disadvantageous political change and added instability in mide-east. How can you compare that with Clinton's stupid indiscretion? Get over Clinton's penis's obsession . End of discussion.
Ah, the war started in 1990 and he just finished it. Sort of like Harry Truman ended WWII. Oh, it increased stability in the area which has deteriorated since Obama moved into the White House as everyone knows Obama is a woos.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127522 Nov 15, 2012
Obama is very worried that most of the states will revolt. Oh Libtards, just in case you forgot, the USSC ruled that the state mandates by ObamaCare were UNConstitutional!

U.S. gives states more time to make Obama health law decision
By Deborah Charles and James B. Kelleher | Reuters – 3 hrs ago

WASHINGTON/CHICAGO (Reuters)- The federal government on Thursday gave states another month to decide if they will operate insurance exchanges under the new U.S. healthcare law, after some Republican governors stalled in the hope President Barack Obama would lose last week's election.
The delay was the second time in a week that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius showed flexibility on deadlines as a way to entice states to cooperate in implementing Obama's signature domestic achievement.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-gives-states-another-...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127523 Nov 15, 2012
What a nice story. And if his mother had aborted him, we would never have heard it, would we?
....
Abandoned boy meets Texas fireman who saved him
By ANGELA K. BROWN | Associated Press –
.........
ARLINGTON, Texas (AP)— A Texas boy abandoned at a fire station as an infant got a special wish for his 10th birthday: meeting the firefighter who saved him.
more at;
http://news.yahoo.com/abandoned-boy-meets-tex...

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#127524 Nov 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello, hello, is there anybody in there?
We have strict immigration laws that are simply being ignored by this admin.
Oh, sure! This just happened during the Obama administration. After all, not a single illegal immigrant entered on GWB's watch, right? And if you say that they DID, then it begs the question; were you as vehement in calling for Bush's ouster?

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#127525 Nov 15, 2012
OBAMA MELTDOWN wrote:
Obama lied about Benghazi. And Obama lied about getting Osama. That is clear now.
So, bin Laden is still alive???

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127526 Nov 15, 2012
American Lady Lies wrote:
<quoted text>
Born and raised in the US, served in the Army in Nam, never been on welfare in my life.
According to you there must be a lot of fools in the US because Obama won by a landslide (according to Karl Rove).
Now let's talk about you. You live in a dirt poor state that takes more federal money than it contributes. You are obviously borderline illiterate and are incapable of debating a point - all you can do is sling lame insults.
You are a right wing extremist, and America does not agree with you or your stance. Even the Republican party is purging the extremists from its ranks. You are a man (debatably) without a party now.
America told you to go take a hike. Please do us all a favor and do so.
Obama did not will by any sort of land slide. Just look at the election of 1984 when Ronald Reagan won 425 Electoral College votes compared to Fritz's 13!!!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#127527 Nov 15, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, sure! This just happened during the Obama administration. After all, not a single illegal immigrant entered on GWB's watch, right? And if you say that they DID, then it begs the question; were you as vehement in calling for Bush's ouster?
Did you stop by for another lesson ???:)
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127528 Nov 15, 2012
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127529 Nov 15, 2012
He notes, among many other issues, why did a biography written by Obama for 17 years boast that he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii?

Other questions:

Why have Hawaii officials been unable to get their story straight on the issue
Why do officials refuse to answer his questions about Obama’s records?
Why has no doctor or nurse ever come forward to talk about the birth?
Why was Obama’s first executive order as president instructions to seal his own records from the public?
Why are his birth records, baptismal records, adoption records, kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia University thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passports, medical records, files as an Illinois state senator and his Illinois state bar association records all concealed?
Why was Hawaii’s governor unable to keep his word when he said he would find Obama’s records and confirm his status?
Why are the National Archives records for immigration from 1961 – during the three days around Obama’s birth – missing?
Why has nothing been done regarding the law enforcement conclusions that “President Obama’s long-form birth certificate is a computer-generated document; that it was manufactured piecemeal and electronically; and that it did not originate as a copy of a true paper record from a bound volume…”
What is the significance of the fact that Obama’s birth record number is out of sequence?

The government petition website suddenly became a news item because residents in all 50 states are petitioning there for permission for their states to leave the union.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127530 Nov 15, 2012
Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement System PDF Print E-mail

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.

"This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could," explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, "However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up."

A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a "government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments’ Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation)." She proclaimed that even "private annuities are problematic."

Such "reforms" would effectively end private retirement accounts in America, Crone warns. "These people want the government to require that ultimately all Americans buy these government annuities instead of saving or investing on their own. The Government could then take these trillions of dollars and redistribute it through this new national retirement system."

Deputy Treasury Secretary J. Mark Iwry, who presided over the hearing, is a long-time critic of 401k plans because he believes they benefit the rich. He also appears to be one of the Administration’s point man on this issue.

"This whole issue is moving forward very quickly," warns Crone. "Already there is a bill requiring all businesses to automatically enroll their employees in IRA plans in which part of every employee’s paycheck would be automatically deducted and deposited into this account. If this passes, the government will be just one step away from being able to confiscate all these retirement accounts."

NSC has taken the lead in warning the nation about this new government onslaught and is plotting ways to stop it.

"This effort ultimately is designed to grab the retirement nest eggs of America’s senior citizens. This new government annuity scheme, even if it is at first optional, will turn into a giant effort to redistribute the wealth of America’s older citizens," explains Crone. "This scheme mirrors what I expect the President will try to do with Social Security. He wants to turn that program into a welfare program, too."

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#127531 Nov 16, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
The usurper can't lie well without his teleprompter.
In fact, that is the only time that he tells a smidgeon of truth.
Yeah, he sent Rice out there to perpetuate his lie.
The truth went against his campaign rhetoric.
Al Qaida is not on the run, but 4 Americans are dead, because when the phone rang asking for help, Obama could not stop campaigning.
America is so dumbed down that they re-elected this failure.
Unfuckingbelievable!
Impeach Obama for allowing 4 Americans to be murdered while he did nothing to help them, while being derelict in his duty, and for then sending Rice out to lie about what had occurred, in order to protect his campaign rhetoric lie that Al Qaida was on the run, all while continuing to campaign like nothing had happened.
Obama gone 2017!

You funny man GB.

Make me laugh long time.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#127532 Nov 16, 2012
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama gone 2017!
You funny man GB.
Make me laugh long time.
I give him about 12-18 months the way he is going...

Either way this dude is gonna wish he never stole that election ...especially if he gets impeached which looks very likely depending on what Patraeus says today.

Maybe Biden will lend us his chains to help drag him out of the WH and send him back to Kenya where he belongs.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127533 Nov 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello, hello, is there anybody in there?
We have strict immigration laws that are simply being ignored by this admin.
Terry Buckeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, sure! This just happened during the Obama administration. After all, not a single illegal immigrant entered on GWB's watch, right? And if you say that they DID, then it begs the question; were you as vehement in calling for Bush's ouster?
No, two wrongs to not make a wright. And that is one of the things Bush did not do that made me unhappy with him.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#127534 Nov 16, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't agree with anything you said, but I find this statement to be absolutely breathtakingly appalling, as well as very telling about your mental state.
Have you seen Obama's college grades, because you would be the only known person to have done so.
You have no data from college on which to base your assumption, and that is all that it is, AN ASSUMPTION!
We have real data from his first term, and none of it would cause one to conclude that your assumption is correct either.
In fact that data would force one to concede that the exact opposite was true.
Obama is either a genius orchestrating the downfall of America without anyone else knowing it, or he is seriously stupid.
Since I, and many others, know that he is orchestrating the downfall of America, we can rule out that he is a genius, and the known data proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is seriously stupid, just like you.
Delude yourself much?
What we all know for sure is that Obama is a winner and you, McCain and Romney are not just losers, but by every measure appear to be sore losers . LOL

Obama gone 2017!

You funny man GB.

Make me laugh long time.

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