BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
American Lady

Danville, KY

#127343 Nov 15, 2012
He will come like a thief in the night ...

No ONE knows WHEN! <3

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#127344 Nov 15, 2012
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And the Voting Rights Act of 1965 84% of all Republicans voted for it while only 77% of the Democrats did!!!
But some how people like Jacques thinks that Republicans are the one who are racists!!!
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Have you ever looked at atypical professional basket ball, foot ball or base ball team? They are more than 12% BLACK, aren't they. And most of those teams are owned by CONSERVATIVES. And most businesses are run by Conservatives who want the best talent regardless of the color of their skin!
M.G. James Hamlet was a family friend. I saw he several times when I was 13-14 y/o old while he was a guest in our home.
Where Conservatives have problems is is with LIBTARDS! And unfortunately most blacks are Liberals. You equate that since most Conservatives do not associate with blacks that we are racists. We just don't associate with Libtards regardless of the color of their skin!
I have some black acquaintance and none of them are Liberals. I do not associate to my WHITE next door neighbor who lives on my left because he is a LIBTARD but do with my other neighbors, to include the Hindu couple across the street, because they are not Libtards.
I can get along with Blue Dog Democrats.
Oh, again, my 13 y/o grandson is the ONLY white kid on the basket ball team. The school is 50/50 Black/ White by most white kids there do not do into sports as the don't like to work with blacks. It is no problem with me or my daughter. I did not raise my daughter to be a bigot.
It use to be that in polite society one did not discuss religion or politics Rogue and we were all better off for it. That said I personally don’t have an association problem as I can get along with just about anybody. I have a friend from my old job (were both retired) who was a Romney supporter and an absolute birfoon. He has a Mexican girlfriend who lives a few houses down from me who worked the phone banks for Obama campaign.

I realized years ago that no amount of proof would convince him Obama was born in Hawaii. I realized as well that after his third shot of Jack Daniels he could care less who was president. LOL

Arlington, MA

#127346 Nov 15, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Lamar Carnes
This is a nation controlled and run by the "people of the United States of America" and NOT by a few men or women in Washington, D.C. we have elected to RUN OVER us. Not at all. They are to follow the RUL E OF LAW as expressed in our Constitution and Bill of Rights and also our traditional policies realting to the Free Enterprise System, a Capitalistic economic system and a SMALL Government only involved in those issues so stated in the Constitution and NOTHING more or less!!! It is time those people in Washington ACT LIKE SERVANTS and not demigods or tyrants or dictators. This is unacceptable behavior which we see in Obama and many of his administrative hires!!!
Mary Gribble

Mr. Thomas Jefferson was correct. Each state has joined the union voluntarily, A reasonable person would conclude each state may disconnect, in an orderly manner and voluntarily, should the overreach and oppression of government become insurmountable and not in keepng with the dictates of liberty of the United States Constitution. With great respect for Justice Scalia, I nonetheless do not understand his argument that the invasion of the South by Lincoln,(which happened before the secession of South Carolina and would therefore constitute a traitor label) with some twenty billion dollars worth of private and public property destroyed, resulting in the deaths of two million people, most of whom were civilians, both black and white, could alter the fact of a God-given liberty granted by God to all persons. A study of the hisotry of that time will show that Lincoln did not have the slaves in mind, althoough this was the history you and I learned as children and how the war was sold. His desire to "hold the union together" was for his lost tax revenue. For this, he orchestrated a reign of terror, which included the shelling and burning of entire districts, mass arrests, forced explulsions, wholesale plundering and murder. A look at georgraphy wil point that in the North, people lived off of one another (professional services) and in the South, people lived off the land (farming, ranching). Exchange of services is morall and legal, but there must be a fountain of food clothing and building materials from the land. Justice Scalia may not have yet discovered from which document in which form of government (ut oh) the US Pledge of Allegence is derived!
Things change. In Jefferson's day it was theoretically possible for states to secede, and there was certainly no law barring it. But the Civil War did happen, and no one wants to do that over again. And it is not something who has pledged "One nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE..." would even want to do. It would be in violation of that pledge. It really does not matter from where the pledge is derived. It matters that you took the pledge.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#127347 Nov 15, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
1) not a crime
2) your opinion
3) your opinion
4) your opinion
Sorry, no grounds for impeachment.....
I think it is funny as you Libtards wanted to impeach Bush for lying about WMD in Iraq!!!
But when Clinton committed perjury in a Federal Grand Jury and a Federal Court Room, oh, it was only about sex so it is okay with me. And Gen Betray Us needed to resign too!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#127349 Nov 15, 2012
Noway Duh wrote:
<quoted text>And you have had your head stuck up Obummers ash long enough to never see him as anything as a libtard socialist cult leader. Drink the cool aid!
Wow. Ignorant and unintelligible all in the same post. A real double threat

Arlington, MA

#127350 Nov 15, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
If all 47 million food stamp recipients voted for President Obama, it would account for 75.4 percent of Obama's 62.3 million votes.
However, just about half of food stamp recipients (47%) are under the age of 18, so that leaves only 24.9 million. And that group tends to have a lower voting rate than the general population. Still, they have the right to vote, and if they all voted for Obama, that is perfectly legal and constitutional. Some, however, may have voted for Romney, and they have the right to do that too.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#127352 Nov 15, 2012
The Truth wrote:
Impeach Obama
Try winning elections the old fashion way loser. That would be on election day not after the fact.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#127353 Nov 15, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>I think it is funny as you Libtards wanted to impeach Bush for lying about WMD in Iraq!!!!
True there were a few fools calling for impeachment of President Bush. They were as wrong and lacking in legal basis as you are. Do you feel better knowing that you're in the company of extreme idiots from both sides?

Arlington, MA

#127354 Nov 15, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
Natural born citizens means what you want it to mean.
We feel the same about that word indivisible.
Psst, RETARD, we are still waiting for you to post ANY COPY of Obama's long form birth certificate that contains a raised visible embossed seal that was released to the public in April 2011.
The meaning of Natural Born Citizen was defined by the Wong Kim Ark case, which was after Minor v. Happersett, and it ruled six to two (one justice not voting) that the meaning of Natural Born comes from the common law and refers to the PLACE of birth, and that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born Citizen.

Re seal.

It is not visible on the scan. But it is there.

Officials of both political parties say that Obama has a birth certificate on record at the Hawaii department of health. This is further confirmed by the public Index Data file, which says that there is a BC for Obama filed in 1961, and it is further confirmed by the birth notices sent to the newspapers of Hawaii in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii. Only the DOH could send those notices because the section of the newspaper was called "Health Bureau Statistics"---and both the papers and the DOH confirm this fact. And in 1961 the DOH only sent out notices to people that it issued birth certificates to, and in 1961 Hawaii was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children who were not born in Hawaii.

Another confirmation that Obama's original birth certificate exists in the files in Hawaii is the short-form birth certificate issued to Obama. The short form is generated by a clerk looking into the files and reading off the data on the document there and entering it into a computer form that generates the short form birth certificate. Obviously a document has to exist in the files for that to take place.

And Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and there is no evidence that Obama's mother traveled out of the country in 1961, which would have been extremely rare late in pregnancy in those days.(And the government of Kenya said that it did an investigation, and he certainly was NOT born there.) Obama's Kenyan grandmother never said that Obama was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly on the taped call that he was born in Hawaii, and she said in another interview that the first that her family had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter from Hawaii.)

These are some of the reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review all call birthers CRAZY.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#127355 Nov 15, 2012
Birfer is Stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
Natural born citizens means what you want it to mean.
That's demonstrably false.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#127357 Nov 15, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And why did you steal someone else's Monica?
I bet you wish this made sense, Rogue Moron.

Another Roguetardian failure.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127358 Nov 15, 2012
American Lady wrote:
He will come like a thief in the night ...
No ONE knows WHEN! <3
He has already come for you and stolen your brain.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#127359 Nov 15, 2012
Birfer is Stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
Duhhh duhh aduhhhhhh
Kentucky, since when does few votes win?

Can you just be honest and say that far far fewer Republicans voted for it or not?
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#127360 Nov 15, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>

then you admit that the real unemployment umber should be much higher!!! I thought you guys were blaming the current number on Sandy but now you admit you were WRONGO!!!
Open mouth, change feet!!!
WOW, you are really dumb.

When demand is down in one state due to a hurricane, fewer people work in other states.

When a hurricane rips up one state, people in that state necessarily cannot work.

Thus, unemployment goes up.

Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#127361 Nov 15, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it is funny as you Libtards wanted to impeach Bush for lying about WMD in Iraq!!!
But when Clinton committed perjury in a Federal Grand Jury and a Federal Court Room, oh, it was only about sex so it is okay with me. And Gen Betray Us needed to resign too!
GWB's lies caused over 4,500 U.S. deaths + 150 to 200,000 Iraqi deaths, not to mention $1.2 trilionč

Clinton's lies cost him and his family embarrassment. No deaths, no cost, no damage.

Both are not good, but which is most costly? And, all in all, who was by far the best of the two?

The General decided to resign. On his own volition. No one forced him to. I'm wondering if Obama should've accepted it. He did a hell of a job as an officer in both Iraq and Afghanistan. As I said, if there were no security breaches, who cares? In such a case , he is accountable only to his wife and children.

Arlington, MA

#127362 Nov 15, 2012
American Lady wrote:
By Lynn Stuter
February 3, 2009
The Honorable Chief Justice John G Roberts
Honorable Justice Samuel A. Alito, Jr
Honorable Justice Stephen G. Breyer
Honorable Justice Ruth B. Ginsburg
Honorable Justice Anthony M. Kennedy
Honorable Justice Antonin Scalia
Honorable Justice David H. Souter
Honorable Justice John Paul Stevens
Honorable Justice Clarence Thomas
United States Supreme Court
1 First Street N.E.
Washington, DC 20543
On January 20, 2009, Chief Justice John G Roberts administered the presidential oath of office to a man who has failed to provide one iota of evidence that he is, indeed, a natural born citizen of the United States as required by Article II, Section 1, United States Constitution. To the contrary, overwhelming evidence indicates this man to be a citizen, to this day, of Indonesia; that he owes no allegiance and has proven no allegiance to the United State of America, its Constitution and Bill of Rights, or its people...
The US Supreme Court has turned down every single birther case. And Obama was really born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show.

And a simple telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy in Washington will confirm that Obama was never an Indonesian citizen.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#127363 Nov 15, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
The pathetic morons are the Obama ass-lickers like you.
The usurper can't lie well without his teleprompter.
In fact, that is the only time that he tells a smidgeon of truth.
Yeah, he sent Rice out there to perpetuate his lie.
The truth went against his campaign rhetoric.
Al Qaida is not on the run, but 4 Americans are dead, because when the phone rang asking for help, Obama could not stop campaigning.
America is so dumbed down that they re-elected this failure.
Obama gone 2017!

You funny GB.

Make me laugh long time.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#127364 Nov 15, 2012
Former Soviet Citizen To Address Texans
Smet grew up in the Soviet Union, where he witnessed first-hand the "brainwashing, manipulation and brutality" of unbridled socialism, and the San Antonio resident says what is going on in Washington, D.C. scares him to death.

"In 2008, during the election campaign, I listened to one of Obama's speeches," said Smet, who tried to leave the Soviet Union for six years before winning the "green card lottery" in 1995, "I was listening to that speech for maybe five minutes and I figured out he was talking exactly like the old Soviet leaders used to talk. I was listening to this all my life!"

"I said to myself,'Uh-oh, if he wins it's going to be a real mess.' I got depressed. I'm living in a socialist country again."

Smet was a musician in the USSR, and after emigrating first to California he began living the American dream the old-fashioned way: hard work.

Yucaipa, CA

#127365 Nov 15, 2012
Goat Boy wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Impeach Obama for allowing 4 Americans to be murdered while he did nothing to help them, while being derelict in his duty, and for then sending Rice out to lie about what had occurred, in order to protect his campaign rhetoric lie that Al Qaida was on the run, all while continuing to campaign like nothing had happened.
That's just you opinion and not even a crime.

Try again.

Goat Boy is stuck on stupid!!!

Arlington, MA

#127366 Nov 15, 2012
Gurus cousin wrote:
<quoted text>
LAW ENORCEMENT says it. Guys who are forensic investigators in fraud, forgery, immigration. With over 140 years collectively in countries all over the world. THOSE are my sources.
What are your sources? Your vagina?
You are referring to Sheriff Joe, who made claims about Obama's birth certificate but did not say anything about college transcripts. The fact remains that NO president or presidential candidate has showed his or her college transcript, passport files, etc. Millions of people have errors in their SS files.

Re: "guys who are forensic investigators." Sheriff Joe used ONLY the "experts" of WND. That is all. No federal or state officials, just the "experts" of WND.

Only birther "experts"---who have not proved that they are really experts, and who certainly have not proved that they are fair and impartial say that there is anything wrong with the image of Obama's birth certificate.

The birther "experts" include Paul Irey, who has repeatedly claimed that Obama did not attend Columbia College, despite the fact that Columbia University has stated that Obama did attend (and that he graduated). And they include Doug Vogt, who claims to have found the original altar of Abraham. It is such "experts" as these that the birthers rely on for their case.

There are many real experts who say that there is nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, including John Woodman, who happens to be a member of the Tea Party and who dislikes Obama and Obama's policies, but shows that the birther "experts" are wrong. They also include Ivan Zatkovich, who was hired by WND to examine the image of Obama's birth certificate, and when he submitted his report that there was nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, WND simply did not publish it.

As for Sheriff Joe and his posse:


It is clear that rational conservatives do not believe the "birth certificate was forged" claims. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review certainly do not.

And the conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm specified facts on Obama's birth certificate. Hawaii did, stating that it compared the image of Obama's birth certificate with the file copy (which is an additional confirmation that there was a file copy BTW) and that Obama was born there and that the facts match. The secretary of state of Arizona accepted this confirmation and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November. This indicates that he does not believe the claims that the birth certificate is forged (including those of Sheriff Joe) and that he does believe the officials in Hawaii.

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