BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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"... that the document was created by the Hawaii Department of Health.”

She accused Zullo of “trying to get a verification of a birth record without legal authority.”

Yet the duly deputized investigators had presented their credentials to police in Honolulu before interviewing her.

She “constantly evaded answering every question about the legitimacy of the document.”

Zullo went to the Kapiolani Hospital, where the forgery says Obama was born. He asked to see the publicly available birth records for 1961, the alleged year of his birth. The hospital “less than politely refused.”

Management failed even to confirm Obama had been born there,“nor did they confirm that they were in possession of his birth records.”

In 2008, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the Health Department’s director, said she had “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record.”

Eight months later she changed her statement. She dropped all mention of seeing the “original birth certificate.”

Instead, she said she had seen “the original vital records verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American.”

In 1961, state law permitted Hawaiian parents of children born anywhere in the world to register them as Hawaiian-born, a legalized backdoor to U.S. citizenship. Article II of the U.S. Constitution insists that only a “natural-born citizen” can serve as president.

At that time, Hawaii’s local newspapers filled space by printing birth announcements from the archive, including Hawaiian birth certificates of foreign-born children.

So the announcement of Obama’s birth in two newspapers is not evidence he was born in Hawaii.

Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii’s governor, said he was present at Obama’s birth. Then he changed his story. He “acknowledged that he did not see Obama’s parents with their newborn son at any hospital.”

Abercrombie then said he remembered seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events.

Zullo writes:“There is no evidence to support that claim. No doctor or nurse who attended his birth has come forward to say so.”

Abercrombie told a Honolulu newspaper he would search for definitive records to prove Obama was born in Hawaii.

He said:“The continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president’s chances of re-election in 2012.” The issue would raise “political implications … that we simply cannot have.”

Yet Abercrombie never subsequently said he had seen Obama’s original long-form birth certificate. He said no more than that he had identified “an unspecified listing or notation of Obama’s birth that someone had made in the state archives.”

Zullo adds:“If such a document had existed, Abercrombie would have had it within minutes of his request.”

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"...“To date the purported undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has claimed to have discovered and has described as being ‘actually written’ has never been made public.

“Being located in the state archives, this document should be available for inspection by the general public without restraint.”

Fukino told CNN in 2011 that she had gone into the Health Department’s vault, where she had inspected Obama’s original birth certificate.

Zullo comments:“Inferentially, it should have been that easy for Gov. Abercrombie to locate it as well.”

Nagamine said:“Accessing the original birth records was difficult and expensive.”

Yet Fukino had told CNN “she simply went to the vault and inspected Obama’s original birth certificate.”

Zullo’s affidavit shows a picture of Onaka lifting out a volume of 1973 birth certificates from the archive shelves, showing that consulting the records is no harder than looking up a book in a library.

On Zullo’s second visit to Hawaii, he met Duncan Sunahara, who had been refused a certified copy of a long-form birth certificate for his sister, Virginia.

Shortly after her birth, she had died of breathing complications the day of Obama’s birth.

Zullo comments:“The Cold Case Posse is compelled to consider the question why this little girl’s 1961 long-form birth certificate was so disconcerting to the Hawaii Department of Health that it did not wish to issue a copy to Mr. Sunahara upon request.”

Hawaii took great care to number certificates sequentially. Officials stacked them in monthly batches by date and time of birth before numbering each in turn with an automatically incremented stamp.

Obama, born at 7:24 p.m. Aug. 4, 1961, now has No. 10641 on his birth certificate.

Virginia Sunahara, born almost two hours later, now has No. 11080. Yet on average only two babies an hour were born in Hawaii that year. Her number should have been no more than 10650. It is too big by well over 400.

Also, twins born the following day were given numbers earlier than Obama’s current number: No. 10637 and No. 10638.

Investigators suspect Obama’s number was not assigned in 1961 but may have been taken from Sunahara’s birth certificate.

When Sunahara first asked for a certified copy of his sister’s birth certificate last year, he did not get it, though Hawaiian law says he should get a full certificate if he asks for it.

He was given a short-form computer abstract. The posse suspects that was when officials altered Virginia Sunahara’s computerized record to give it an impossibly high number.

Zullo also mentions evidence that the computerized index of birth records did not contain Obama’s name when a Hawaiian citizen first consulted it, but the name had been added when he looked again two weeks later.

The short-form abstract of Obama’s birth record had been published in 2008. At first, the number had been blacked out,...

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"... though there was no legitimate reason why. Shortly afterward an image was published with the number 10641 visible.

So, if the posse is right to suspect the Health Department had used Virginia Sunahara’s number when it issued Obama’s short-form abstract in 2008, it had to alter her record to give her a different number altogether –“a possibility,” says Zullo,“that the investigators are constrained to bear in mind.”

The posse has reported to the sheriff that two crimes have been committed: first, fraudulently creating a forgery that the White House had characterized, knowingly or unknowingly, as an officially produced governmental birth record; and secondly, fraudulently presenting to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery that the White House had represented as “proof positive” of Obama’s authentic 1961 Hawaiian long-form birth certificate.

Zullo concludes that the whole question could be settled quickly and decisively if Hawaii would let his forensic specialists examine Obama’s original birth certificate and hospital birth record."
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The official votes and map show the truth and that is FRAUD! Yet not one single network is interested in the truth or reporting these serious issues and threat on Americas voting system. As soon as Fox prematurely declared him winner before all the votes were in using guesstimates they seed unwilling to seek the truth especiallynifmit showed they made a mistake! So here we have it Americans who are satisfied with a man who let voter fraud get him elected. So if its OK now will it be OK with them next time if voter fraud gets a Republican or Indipendent elected?
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source...of the above 4 posts.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/cold-case-posse-bo...
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sage won wrote:
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She had calculus confused with her Obama wind powered calculator.
lol...or maybe it was her wind powered solar vibrator.

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Poppo wrote:
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I expect every birfoon to be this dumb AL, but even the birfoon should know that blacks started abandoning the Republican Party after the passage of the 1964 civil rights act. Ever hear of “white flight” AL. That’s when the racists all fled to the Republican Party who embraced them with open arms as useful idiots to be used for voting purposes only. Now to put it in the words of the Reverend Wright “Your chickens have come home to roost”
That a birfoon would post such nonsense does not surprise me in the least but for Romney’s people to post this Abraham Lincoln video is one of the reasons some blacks who probably wouldn’t have voted at all stood in eight hour lines just to make sure this kind of ignorance gets the message. Blacks know who’s who AL and they know Romney is no Abraham Lincoln nor is this his Party.
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Is THIS what you are talking about p?
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/...
“I’ll have those -i**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”—Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -
“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something(ghettos), just enough to quiet them down, not enough(food stamps & welfare) to make a difference.”—LBJ - dimocRAT
What Johnson said was “ We have just lost the south for a generation”

Of course we know now Johnson didn’t have a clue as we are in the middle of the third and counting.

Revelation 20:11-15 "...And they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds."

I’m sure you can find plenty of Johnson’s actual racist remarks without making any up AL. Johnson will be remembered for his deeds.
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ROB THE VOTE

Here's how touchscreens killed Romney votes
You won't believe what machine expert claims
Published: 6 hours ago
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/heres-how-touchscr...
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Guru: You remain among the saddest die-hards on Topix. I recall when you used to post as "Real Estate Guru" on the Hawaii Topix forums, telling us all how you'd earned so much money from your insightful manipulation of the Hawaii real estate market/ LOL!!

And now you're a Birther??!! LOL! No wonder Obama won with such a landslide. KEEP IT UP, BIRTHERS! You folks did a great job, helping Obama get a second term. Your fellow Americans think you guys are nuts.

Aloha & Goodnight from Honolulu Hawaii, the Birthplace of President Barack Hussein Obama
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Kapiolani wrote:
Guru: You remain among the saddest die-hards on Topix. I recall when you used to post as "Real Estate Guru" on the Hawaii Topix forums, telling us all how you'd earned so much money from your insightful manipulation of the Hawaii real estate market/ LOL!!
And now you're a Birther??!! LOL! No wonder Obama won with such a landslide. KEEP IT UP, BIRTHERS! You folks did a great job, helping Obama get a second term. Your fellow Americans think you guys are nuts.
Aloha & Goodnight from Honolulu Hawaii, the Birthplace of President Barack Hussein Obama
lol...see you later OBOT. say hi to obama for me tomorrow. Maybe you guys could do some work on Benghazi for a change instead of worrying about me. Or maybe tracks some skanks emails like you did for Petraeus. Good use of taxpayer money.
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The official votes and map show the truth and that is FRAUD! Yet not one single network is interested in the truth or reporting these serious issues and threat on Americas voting system. As soon as Fox prematurely declared him winner before all the votes were in using guesstimates they seed unwilling to seek the truth especiallynifmit showed they made a mistake! So here we have it Americans who are satisfied with a man who let voter fraud get him elected. So if its OK now will it be OK with them next time if voter fraud gets a Republican or Indipendent elected?
FOX sucks. They called the Ohio vote with only a 991 voter advantage for obama with over 770,000 votes left to be counted. That airhead blond skank did it then she took a long walk down to the idiots' room. Rove had it right...he was shocked and so was America. You know the fix is in right there.

No wonder over 40 states' petitions want to secede now. That sentiment will only grow now.

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Zullo concludes that the whole question could be settled quickly and decisively if Hawaii would let his forensic specialists examine Obama’s original birth certificate and hospital birth record."
One thing is certain Guru you, the Donald and GB never grow tired of making complete asses of yourselves.

Barack Obama’s “birth announcement” microfilm has been tampered with according to photographic evidence and examination.
http://obamaballotchallenge.com/obamas-birth-...

You ignorant birfoons are an international joke and everyone knows by now that no amount of proof will satisfy your inanity.

Not so long ago it could be settled quickly with a long form birth certificate which everyone on this thread knew was total bullshit. You’ve gotten all you’re going to get and as the last election clearly showed obviously no one gives a shit what you believe.
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Poppo wrote:
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One thing is certain Guru you, the Donald and GB never grow tired of making complete asses of yourselves.
Barack Obama’s “birth announcement” microfilm has been tampered with according to photographic evidence and examination.
http://obamaballotchallenge.com/obamas-birth-...
You ignorant birfoons are an international joke and everyone knows by now that no amount of proof will satisfy your inanity.
Not so long ago it could be settled quickly with a long form birth certificate which everyone on this thread knew was total bullshit. You’ve gotten all you’re going to get and as the last election clearly showed obviously no one gives a shit what you believe.
My, my pops! I do believe you had a nerve struck. Only those who are being fooled are the jokes pops. Face the facts, the guy is a fraud.
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Hipsters on food stamps
They're young, they're broke, and they pay for organic salmon with government subsidies. Got a problem with that?
http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food...
Why? You think they'd be better off with chemical-additive-laden salmon grown in filthy fish farms?
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American Lady wrote:
THE BIG LIST OF VOTE FRAUD REPORTS
108% of voting population endorses Obama
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vo...
wnd.com , eh? How about pravda? Elections are totally above-boards in Russia, as we all know.
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FROM my friend OZ:
OHIO- cut in food stamps program in 2013.
Hundreds of thousands in Ohio’s food stamp program could see a $50 cut in their monthly assistance starting in January, according to the Toledo Blade. Some consider it ironic that the announcement is coming just a week after the election in this swing state, which was won by President Barack Obama.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/conveniently-...
Please refer to your above post number 126771. Thought you'd be pleased those "hipsters" would get fewer food stamps. At least, they won't be able to buy as much salmon. Rejoice.
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LRS wrote:
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Just like Omammie! I haven't seen anyone hijack your name, why would they? LMAO!! dumbazz
I know you're lying. They know you're lying. We know you're lying. YOU know you're lying. Lying slithering loser slug.
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Guru wrote:
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hey jackoffazz...quite jackinoffin here your steaming turd!
Some reply! How about some of YOUR predictions? Did I not highlight some of them yesteday for your benefit? Hey, let's have a comment.
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"...from the Declaration of Independence:“‘Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.’”
Screen capture of White House petition page for Louisiana secession
Residents of other states, however, have chosen different wording.
The Texas petition explains itself this way:“The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the U.S. suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our Founding Fathers, which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”
A petitioner from Tillamook, Ore., identified by the site as Kristopher W, worded his state’s petition this way:“Allow Oregon to vote on and leave the union peacefully and remain an ally to the nation.”
He continues,“With the federal government increasing its size much larger than our Founding Father’s intended, and its abuse of power trumping over the rights of state constitutions, and the forcing of unconstitutional laws over its own citizens, the people of Oregon would like the chance to vote on leaving the Union immediately. The federal government has imposed policies on Oregon that are not in Oregon’s best interests, and we as citizens would respectively and peaceably separate ourselves from a tyrannical government who cares nothing about creating a sustainable future for our children. At any time that the citizens of Oregon [should feel] the federal government was no longer imposing on the Constitution, we could re-vote to again join the union under a new agreement.”
One of the contrary petitions reads this way:“Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them.”
It continues,“Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.”
The White House created the “We the People” petition site ostensibly as a way of giving all Americans “a way to engage their government on the issues that matter to them.”
“The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution,” the page reads.“We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.”
The page also explains,“You have just 30 days to get 25,000 signatures in order to get a response from the White House.”
Once the White House does draft a response, it has pledged to send it via email to everyone who has signed the petition (registration on the site with a valid email address is required to sign petitions).
"Published" 3 hours ago? Who published it, pray tell? And you are the one who wrote treatises here on calculus? And then comes up with this crap about a handful of nutball sore losers with too-high expectations? Incidentally, you never did attribute those dissertations for Terri's sake. More plagiarism. What a loser. What a make-believe loser, that is. How it must suck to be you.
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American Lady wrote:
COLD CASE POSSE BOSS FINGERS HAWAII OFFICIALS
Sworn statement details 'elaborate non-cooperation' on Obama probe
Published: 3 hours ago
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/cold-case-posse-bo...
"COLD CASE POSSE ", ha ha, what a laugh, as the Cold Case posse boss falls off his stick-horse as mamma takes her broom away. This from traitor American er hmm communist pravda lady.

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