BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Grand Birther

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Birfoon is Stupid wrote:
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Derp Derp Derp Derp
Fewer votes wins!

Someone get Allen West on the red line STAT!
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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Accentuate the "Duh" in Noway, Ellen. He and birthers are now questioning how the media always predicted and stil predict eventual races. Everyone knows that the great majority of races, I'd say 90%, are decided after 5% of the vote is in. That's a fact. Why, polls are taken with less than 1% of 1% of the population and are always pretty close.
I disagree with you. Sorry to disagree with someone with whom I normally agree.

The standard for calling an election has to be considerably higher than polls, even exit polls---which can be highly accurate because of their large size IF they are conducted right, but there have been some times when they have been done completely wrong.

Ordinary polls, if close, can be off dramatically simply because of the weather.

The key is a combination of factors. In this case, all the networks and the AP could be certain of the trend because the areas that had not registered their votes yet were mainly Obama areas, AND the exit polls showed that the vote in those areas was going for Obama and the size and turnout in those areas was enough to far exceed any votes coming in from Romney areas.

One of the problems with exit polls is that they, like all polls, have to be done on a completely random basis. But that can be enormously expensive. It means that the people doing the polling at a selected voting site have to be there the entire day. If they miss some hours at that site, the poll is no longer random because Republicans may vote later or Democrats or whatever.

In this case, it seems likely that the exit polls were done well, but I remember some bad ones.
Grand Birther

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Lol, the worse Tacky loses, the more hysteric his childish name calling becomes.
Grand Birther

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LRS wrote:
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*failed attempt to troll*
Wow, you suck at this.
Grand Birther

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Birfoon is Stupid wrote:
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You are a LIAR, WoTARD!
Are you really this damn STUPID, WoTARD?
Federal Executive Branch
The president is the head of the executive branch of the government, which includes many departments and agencies.
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/Executive...
The Presidency a Federal office.
It is certainly not a State or local office, MORON!
Go suck an egg, WoTARD!
R U on drugs?
R U high?
Grow up!
Kentucky, you are so adamant, so this should be really easy.

Merely prove that the president is a federal employee and there are no exceptions for the office.

Spamming BS, as you may have noticed over the last four years, is not an effective means of proving anything other than your own idiocy.
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America Got Stupid wrote:
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Psst, RETARD, we are still waiting for you to post ANY COPY of Obama's long form birth certificate that contains a raised visible embossed seal that was released to the public in April 2011.
The raised seal does not show up in the scanned image.

You claim that because the seal is not visible on the scan that the document does not exist. But that is what YOU claim, and you have not shown evidence. The explanation is simply that a scan of a Hawaii long form birth certificate put into pdf does not pick up the raised seal.

It is up to you to prove that a scan of a Hawaii long form put into pdf picks up the raised seal in order to prove your theory.

Obama's Hawaii long form birth certificate exists. And the officials in Hawaii in fact stated that they sent a copy to Obama, and at least one reporter said that she had felt the seal.

We know that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate in several ways.

The first is the short-form birth certificate. It is generated by a clerk in the Hawaii DOH reading the information in the files and entering it in a computer form. For that to happen there has to be a document in the files. For the birth certificate not to exist, the clerk would have had to have been lying, and the confirmations by the Republican officials in 2008 would have to be lies as well.

We also know that Obama had a birth certificate in 1961 from the notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in that year.

We know that only the DOH could send those notices for these reasons: Because the representative of the newspapers said so, because the representative of the DOH said so and because the section of the newspaper was called "Health Bureau Statistics"---which meant that the facts in it came from the Health Bureau, the DOH.

In 1961, the DOH was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children born outside of Hawaii, and it only sent birth notices to the papers for children born in Hawaii.

And there is the Index Data file and the statement of the witness who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about "Stanley having a baby." So we know that Obama had a Hawaii birth certificate.

Your claim is that despite (1) the existence of Obama's birth certificate being proven by the notices sent to the newspapers in 1961; (2) the officials in Hawaii stating that they sent both the short form and the long form versions of it to him, and (3) despite a reporter having said that she felt the seal on it--that the birth certificate does not exist and that both the officials in Hawaii and the reporter are lying because the embossed seal does not show up on a PDF scan. Well, prove your claim, show that it is possible for a PDF scan to pick up a raised seal.

Obama's mother lived in Hawaii. Obama's father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961---and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the "born in Kenya" claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet you and other birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.
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Birfoon is Stupid wrote:
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iota!
Birfoon had never known this word until I used it here.

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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You accused Obama of saying there were 57 states . According to you, there are 60. See how easy it is to misspeak. Obama knows there are 50 states, as you also know there are 50 states.
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Obama doesn't know that by his own admission!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EpGH02DtIwsXX
I've now been to 57 States, with 1 left to go.
Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go.
That is a grand total of 60 States, MORON!
Sorry Jacques, if Obama knew there was just 50 states, he has several point in which he could have corrected himself. Here is an airplane accident where the pilot had at least three warning signs but he continued with his take off and flight.
Airplane Crash In-Cockpit Footage: Stinson 108-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
1) his airport was at over 6,000 feet above sea level so he should have known he could not take off at with a full passenger load.
2) Excessive take off run ..... times two or three (time to abort).
3) Stall warning horn is ON! He airspeed should be at least 15% above stall speed so he should have been at around 60 mph but he was probably at about 45 mph.
4) Not gaining altitude. It looks like he had gained a maximum of 200 feet.
5) With all those warning signs he still passed over what looks like a good forced landing area only to crash in the trees.
Now, watch Obama's video again and see the several sign he passed where he should have know there were no 57 States!!!
Grand Birther

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Lol, poor Kentucky has to desperately search dictionary.com just to understand the posts made by the normal ripple here.

And yet you should just take his word for it that the president is subject to his made up rules.

Lololololol

“Facts trump speculation”

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Are you really this damn STUPID, WoTARD?
Federal Executive Branch
The president is the head of the executive branch of the government, which includes many departments and agencies.
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/Executive...
The Presidency a Federal office.
It is certainly not a State or local office, MORON!
Go suck an egg, WoTARD!
R U on drugs?
R U high?
Grow up!
The Presidency is a Federal Office? Ya don't say!

The President is the "head of the executive branch"? That's news?

However, 5 U.S.C.§ 3328 does not say "any federal office," Dumbo.

Get your facts straight.

Under § 2104 an "officer" means "a justice or judge of the United States and an individual who is—
(1) required by law to be appointed in the civil service by one of the following acting in an official capacity—
(A) the President;
(B) a court of the United States;
(C) the head of an Executive agency; or
(D) the Secretary of a military department;
(2) engaged in the performance of a Federal function under authority of law or an Executive act; and
(3) subject to the supervision of an authority named by paragraph (1) of this section, or the Judicial Conference of the United States, while engaged in the performance of the duties of his office."

Sorry, BirfoonBoy.

Get your head on straight.

The President is not an employee either:

"(a) For the purpose of this title,“employee”, except as otherwise provided by this section or when specifically modified, means an officer and an individual who is—
(1) appointed in the civil service by one of the following acting in an official capacity—
(A) the President;
(B) a Member or Members of Congress, or the Congress;
(C) a member of a uniformed service;
(D) an individual who is an employee under this section;
(E) the head of a Government controlled corporation; or
(F) an adjutant general designated by the Secretary concerned under section 709 (c) of title 32;
(2) engaged in the performance of a Federal function under authority of law or an Executive act; and
(3) subject to the supervision of an individual named by paragraph (1) of this subsection while engaged in the performance of the duties of his position."

Grow up, Tacky.
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Sorry, Tacky, the statute doesn't apply to the President.
It applies to APPOINTMENTS through "any personnel action that brings onto the rolls of an executive agency as a civil service officer or employee as defined in 5 U.S.C. 2104 or 2105, respectively, a person who is not currently employed in that agency."
Needless to say, the POTUS is not a civil service officer or employee as defined in 5 U.S.C. 2104 or 2105.
UR a real piece of work, Tacky.
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President Barack H. Obama

Is Obama a natural born citizen?
Donald Trump investigates Obama's eligibility
Obama releases his birth certificate which appears to be a fake.
The Case of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin
Does Obama have a valid Social Security number?
Is Obama qualified for his job?
He has been a public parasite all his life <<<--<<
He was a "Community Organizer" — Big Deal!
He is a self-centered opportunist with an easily bruised ego
http://www.akdart.com/obama.html
American Lady

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Official: Pelosi to remain as leader of House Dems
WASHINGTON - A congressional official said House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi told her party caucus Wednesday that she will remain as minority leader in the new session of Congress.

This official said the 72-year-old Pelosi made the decision to remain at the helm of the party's House leadership even though Democrats failed to win the necessary 25 additional seats to become the majority party again.

The official, who is close to Pelosi, revealed her decision on condition of anonymity because she hadn't yet publicly announced it.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20...

“We make up the rules as we go along." Rep (D-FL) Alcee Hastings.

No truer words have been said, and from a democrat mind you, about the most corrupt congress and senate ever.“When the deal goes down… all this talk about rules - we make 'em up as we go along.” Those words rocked the house on Sunday and were manifested when Pelosi and Obama lied to Stupak (another dishonest and very stupid democrat) and made a promise that even a constitutional flunky knows is not true: Obama can’t make an executive order to change a law, as he promised to Stupak for his yes vote, and remove federal funding for abortion from the Obamacare bill. But Obama and his corrupt regime will make up the rules as the highly liberal democrat from Florida proved to all.

However, I may stand to be corrected when I said “no truer words” can delineate the lies, deceit, and corruption from our liberal democrats. This one takes the cake perhaps? Tom Perriello (D-VA) said, "if you don't tie our hands, we will keep stealing."

http://www.livinglakecountry.com/blogs/commun...

http://www.alceehastings.house.gov/ --Rep (D-FL) Alcee Hastings.

http://politicalpartytime.org/pol/N00029339/ --Tom Perriello (D-VA)

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Why our Country is Going Down The Drain
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Ellen1

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American Lady wrote:
President Barack H. Obama
Is Obama a natural born citizen?
Donald Trump investigates Obama's eligibility
Obama releases his birth certificate which appears to be a fake.
The Case of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin
Does Obama have a valid Social Security number?
Is Obama qualified for his job?
He has been a public parasite all his life <<<--<<
He was a "Community Organizer" — Big Deal!
He is a self-centered opportunist with an easily bruised ego
http://www.akdart.com/obama.html
Because his birth certificate is not fake. And the fact is that he won by more than two and a half million votes over Romney and will be sworn in for his second term on January 21.
American Lady

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Senior Editor of Foreign Policy Magazine: Obama Born In Kenya – 11/13/2012

http://hwnsurf.me/2012/11/14/senior-editor-of...
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Why our Country is Going Down The Drain
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
America's prosperity requires a level playing field
To fix the economy, we must boost demand. To do that, we have to address inequality./ July 22, 2012|By Joseph E. Stieglitz / http://tinyurl.com/bfnbyks
Despite what the debt and deficit hawks would have you believe, we can't cut our way back to prosperity. No large economy has ever recovered from serious recession through austerity. But there is another factor holding our economy back: inequality.
Any solution to today's problems requires addressing the economy's underlying weakness: a deficiency in aggregate demand. Firms won't invest if there is no demand for their products. And one of the key reasons for lack of demand is America's level of inequality — the highest in the advanced countries.
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Because those at the top spend a much smaller portion of their income than those in the bottom and middle, when money moves from the bottom and middle to the top (as has been happening in America in the last dozen years), demand drops. The best way to promote employment today and sustained economic growth for the future, therefore, is to focus on the underlying problem of inequality. And this better economic performance in turn will generate more tax revenue, improving the country's fiscal position.
Even supply-side economists, who emphasize the importance of increasing productivity, should understand the benefits of attacking inequality. America's inequality does not come solely from market forces; those are at play in all advanced countries. Rather, much of the growth of income and wealth at the top in recent decades has come from what economists call rent-seeking — activities directed more at increasing the share of the pie they get rather than increasing the size of the pie itself.
http://articles.latimes.com/print/2012/jul/22...
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And you Libtards are so stupid you have no idea why this is happening. The DJIA is down a thousand points in just six trading days and you think it's great for Obama. Pretty soon al those people who have dividens as part of their retirement portfolios will say, "What the f-was I thinking when I voted for Obama"?
Why Investors Are Dumping Dividend Stocks
By Patti Domm | CNBC – Tue, Nov 13, 2012
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The fear of higher taxes has put a chill on dividend-paying stocks, in what some analysts say could be an overreaction to the "fiscal cliff."
The Bush-era tax cuts on dividends and capital gains, to 15 percent, are in the cross hairs, as congressional leaders and President Barack Obama this week start work on reshaping the tax and spending components of the so-called fiscal cliff.
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The fiscal cliff's not gonna happen. And when it doesn't, and the DJIA recovers, as it did when Obama took over and GWB exited, I'll be waiting for your comments.
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You still have not shown us where it says that. No third party links please.
Liar. BSer. Showed you two , just said so again today. One was from the mormon church itself right after your refused the Wikepedia one. And as I said today, anyone with a brain and an a**hole knows the book of mormon says that. I'm not reproducing it again, as in a week or so, you'll again say I never confirmed it. God, it must suck to be so thick and such a bad actor, but such a good birther.

“Facts trump speculation”

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American Lady wrote:
President Barack H. Obama
Is Obama a natural born citizen?
Donald Trump investigates Obama's eligibility
Obama releases his birth certificate which appears to be a fake.
The Case of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin
Does Obama have a valid Social Security number?
Is Obama qualified for his job?
He has been a public parasite all his life <<<--<<
He was a "Community Organizer" — Big Deal!
He is a self-centered opportunist with an easily bruised ego
http://www.akdart.com/obama.html
Sorry, loser.

He is qualified for the job. Reelected after four years.

We the People have spoken.
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Yea, the only problem with your fantasy is that the birth certificate stated the actual place of birth, not Hawaii. DUH!!!!
Prove that.

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