BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Jacques Ottawa

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There were over a thousand miles of levees, built by the people in large part, long before the Mississippi River Commission was formed. The MRC was established in 1879. This commission included the Army Corps of Engineers and was to set policy for the waterway. A blanket statement like, the ACEs built the levees is not a correct statement.
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Agree ! They had only 60% of the votes in from Ohio and they were tied, but then declared Obummer the winner! WTF!
And that no spin idiot O'Really is obvious an obot Libtard!
Of course by that time all the other networks had called Ohio for Obama, and the AP did at about that time or a little later. And the current count shows that Obama won Ohio by 107,000 votes.

Here's the reason that you can call a state for a candidate even when all the votes are not in and the vote is tied. If all or the vast majority of the votes that are not counted are in the areas that are traditionally strong for one party, and when the exit polls show that the people in that area are indeed voting the way that they usually do, and the area has a large number of votes, it is logical to call the state for the candidate who is strong in that area. And that turned out to be right.

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And the City of New Orleans failed to maintain them!!!
..... the responsibility of maintenance belongs to the local levee boards.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_levee_failu ...
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After the levees were rebuilt after Hurricane Betsy in 1965 the City of N.O. FAILED to maintain the levees. And after 40 years of neglect, they failed!!!
Oh, the class action lawsuit again the Corps of Engineers was tossed out in FEDERAL COURT this past summer. Yep, the were being sued for about $2 Billion by the courts said sorry, no can do!!!
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Now Jacques, I have pointed this out to you a half dozen times but you still do not get it!!! Sad, very sad.
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Who said anyting about maintenance? Sure, N.O. may not have maintained them well, but the fact of the matter is, the army corps of engineers built them. If you buy a lemon car, that's bad enough , but if on top of that, you don't maintain it, things will go from bad to worse. Same for the levees.
Well, the Egyptians built the pyramids bu that does not mean they have to maintain them, does it?
Just get into a car wreck with a car over ten years old and the air-bag does not deploy and you are seriously injured or killed, you can't sue the manufacturer!!! Yep, twenty odd years ago the U.S. federal government limited liability on anything that runs on a road, rail, in the air or on the water,,,, after ten years it is YOUR responsibly to maintain it!!!
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Yea, the only problem with your fantasy is that the birth certificate stated the actual place of birth, not Hawaii. DUH!!!!
"The birth certificate" is a fraud! With no official Hawaiian state seal and required signatures seen on All BC from Hawaii at the same time, example the Nordyke twins born one day apart from O'fraud, at the same hospital he claims at his birth place, yet ONLY his has a register number out of sequence or missing state seal and required signatures, and the alleged hospital to date will not confirm O'frauds public claims!

Stating a place of birth means squat with a fake BC and unconfirmed birth place!

Why don't you look up what the governor of Hawaii finally decided, that he could not find any proof that O'fraud had been born ant where in Hawaii.

The address given in the news announcement is fake as O'fraud! There is no record of the O'frauds ever living there, the next door neighbor who still lives next to this address and was there before the mystery Barry Soetoro/Obama was reportedly created says no one ever lived there with a half black child or baby! Why hasn't anyone ever produced records of the past owners or residence of this address? Easy enough for the likes of Anderson cooper Obama to research and prove!!

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And this is one of the accident which brought about the change in the liability laws.
http://www.airdisaster.com/reports/ntsb/AAR72...
Beech 18's were made between 1936 and 1946 and like anything they wear out. You can not sue Beech for a failure of any of their planes that are over ten years old. The same goes for a Chevy, or a Ford, or a Rolls Royce.
Now, The Army Corps of Engineers rebuilt those levees in the late 1960's and it was up to the City of New Orleans to maintain them and they failed to do so!!!
It is not the fault of the Corps of Engineers that the levees failed!!! GOT IT?!?
No, because you know that N.O. has had DEMOCRAT mayors forever and nothing is ever the fault of any Democrat!!!

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

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And the Voting Rights Act of 1965 84% of all Republicans voted for it while only 77% of the Democrats did!!!
But some how people like Jacques thinks that Republicans are the one who are racists!!!
Did you know larger percentage of NORTHERN REPUBLICANS (16%) in the House voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than NORTHERN DEMORACTS (2%)?
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Much truth to what you say. But as concerns PBS, do not forget that Blacks make up about 15% of the population. So, the ratio's about right, no? As to fewer women, yes, true, but again, less than 25% of elected officials at all levels are women, and in the business world, female CEOs,COOs, CFOs still only accout for 10% of the effectives. Happily, it's improving, but a long way to go. PBS, I believe, for women and same for blacks, go above and beyond those numbers.
Thanks for the feedback.

I agree they have a long way to go.

Keep your eyes open with the upcoming debate in mainstream media and how they will only report half-truths with regard to the so called fiscal cliff.

Obama will sell out again just like he did in his first term.

Bill Clinton also sold out when he joined all the Newt Gringrich Republicans to terminate Glass/Steagall.

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In 1961, state law permitted Hawaiian parents of children born anywhere in the world to register them as Hawaiian-born, a legalized backdoor to U.S. citizenship. Article II of the U.S. Constitution insists that only a “natural-born citizen” can serve as president.
At that time, Hawaii’s local newspapers filled space by printing birth announcements from the archive, including Hawaiian birth certificates of foreign-born children.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/cold-case-posse-bo...
NO it did not. The law to allow registration of a child born outside of Hawaii was not passed until 1982, and even that law does not allow the DOH to lie about the place of birth. It can issue a Hawaii birth certificate, but the BC must state the actual place of birth on it. In other words, it would say, if the child were born in Newark: "Hawaii certificate of live birth: Place of Birth, Newark."

Obama's short form birth certificate says that his place of birth was Honolulu, and his long form birth certificate---the facts on which have been repeatedly confirmed by the officials of both parties in Hawaii---says that his place of birth was Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii.

And the birth notices that appeared in the "Health Bureau Statistics" section of the Hawaii newspapers were in 1961 ONLY sent to the papers by the Health Bureau, the department of health. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 it only issued birth certificates to children born in Hawaii.

Sheriff Joe's posse has made statements that the Hawaii newspapers accepted birth notice ads for the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper in 1961. But, guess what, they NEVER SHOWED AN EXAMPLE. They never showed an example of a birth notice advertisement running in the Health Bureau Statistics section of the Hawaii newspapers.

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, way back in 1980 I volunteered at the Girl Scout day camp where my eight y/o daughter was attending. The ladies did not know what to do with me but I started to do things like exterminate wasp nests and at about noon I heard them yelling "snake" so I grabbed a hoe and found the snake.
It was a five foot long banded king snake. I pinned him down with the hoe and then picked him up as the girls were yelling to kill it. I explained that king snakes ate poisonous snakes so I took him to the woods and let him go.
I do not try to pick up poisonous snakes but I only kill them if they are a treat to people or pets.
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My god, Rogue, you are the Cavalry personified. Do you ride off into the sunset once the good deed has been done?
You seem to thing that only Liberals volunteer their time. Tain't so! And I do not kill anything that is not a threat to people, pets, etc.
Oh, after I took care of the snake I helped them set up their tents. No one had any instructions so I would take one particular style of tent and set it up. There were four basic tents styles at the camp. Once I had set up one of every type the ladies saw how I had done it so they did the rest.
And once they realized I could be of some use they asked me to camp out with them that Wednesday and Thursday nights but my daughter was a Browny and it was only the Girl Scouts who would be over-night camping. Oh, they offered to let my daughter camp out to with the GS's but I told them that that would not be fair to the other Brownies.
So this white knight rode off into the sunset.

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And the Voting Rights Act of 1965 84% of all Republicans voted for it while only 77% of the Democrats did!!!
But some how people like Jacques thinks that Republicans are the one who are racists!!!
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Did you know larger percentage of NORTHERN REPUBLICANS (16%) in the House voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than NORTHERN DEMORACTS (2%)?
There you go again with your apples and oranges. Yes, there are 11 Southern States but the other 49 are not all NORTHERN States. Get over your bigotry!!!
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Oh, it is easy to say Reagan's name, but not so easy to prove that Reagan had anything to do with the Black Codes and the Jim Crow laws.
I know who did what.
Tell us, what party did those who created the Black Codes and the Jim Crow laws represent?
No fantasy allowed for this answer.
Can you name any Democrats besides Strom Thurmond who became a Republican back then? Reagan's epiphany came after that.
Do you deny that Robert Byrd was a leader of the KKK and a DemoKKKrat?
C'mon pansy boy, answer the questions.
No way Goat Boy. You said to name one indidvidual that switched from dem to repub. I did so. EAT IT!!!

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And the Voting Rights Act of 1965 84% of all Republicans voted for it while only 77% of the Democrats did!!!
But some how people like Jacques thinks that Republicans are the one who are racists!
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Did you know larger percentage of NORTHERN REPUBLICANS (16%) in the House voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than NORTHERN DEMORACTS (2%)?
Silly Mr. Finch thinks Hawaii is a Northern State! The last I knew was that Hawaii is the most southern state!!!
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"...from the Declaration of Independence:“‘Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.’”
Screen capture of White House petition page for Louisiana secession
Residents of other states, however, have chosen different wording.
The Texas petition explains itself this way:“The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the U.S. suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our Founding Fathers, which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”
A petitioner from Tillamook, Ore., identified by the site as Kristopher W, worded his state’s petition this way:“Allow Oregon to vote on and leave the union peacefully and remain an ally to the nation.”
He continues,“With the federal government increasing its size much larger than our Founding Father’s intended, and its abuse of power trumping over the rights of state constitutions, and the forcing of unconstitutional laws over its own citizens, the people of Oregon would like the chance to vote on leaving the Union immediately. The federal government has imposed policies on Oregon that are not in Oregon’s best interests, and we as citizens would respectively and peaceably separate ourselves from a tyrannical government who cares nothing about creating a sustainable future for our children. At any time that the citizens of Oregon [should feel] the federal government was no longer imposing on the Constitution, we could re-vote to again join the union under a new agreement.”
One of the contrary petitions reads this way:“Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them.”
It continues,“Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.”
The White House created the “We the People” petition site ostensibly as a way of giving all Americans “a way to engage their government on the issues that matter to them.”
“The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution,” the page reads.“We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.”
The page also explains,“You have just 30 days to get 25,000 signatures in order to get a response from the White House.”
Once the White House does draft a response, it has pledged to send it via email to everyone who has signed the petition (registration on the site with a valid email address is required to sign petitions).
If you add together all the signatures from all the nuts who have signed secession petitions, they amount to considerably less than the 550,000 so far who are petitioning Macy's to drop the products and the advertising of Donald Trump.
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The Army Corps of Engineers designed and constructed the levees around NO.

The design was found to be at fault. The Army confirmed that the design was at fault.

On April 5, 2006, months after independent investigators had demonstrated that the levee failures were not due to natural forces beyond intended design strength, Lt. Gen. Carl Strock testified before the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Energy and Water that, "We have now concluded we had problems with the design of the structure." He also testified that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers did not know of this mechanism of failure prior to August 29, 2005. The claim of ignorance is refuted, however, by the National Science Foundation investigators hired by the Army Corps of Engineers, who point to a 1986 study by the corps itself that such separations were possible in the I-wall design.
Nearly two months later, on June 1, 2006, the USACE finalized their report. The final draft of the IPET report states the destructive forces of Katrina were "aided by incomplete protection, lower than authorized structures, and levee sections with erodible materials." The reasons that particular decisions were made concerning incomplete protection, lower structures, and erodible materials were used remains in dispute.
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Here ya go...
While at it, can you explain why you voted for a man that sincerely believes you are an abomination?------ You must have heard him say this since there is no way you know what he believes. Are you a mind reader? No. Are you implying? Yep. Oh, Omammie's intelligence level is right beside a tickturd. The man is a real life Steve Urkel! And it's funny as hell that you look up to him. LMAO!! squid!
If you are a catholic and you do not believe in the Holy Trinity, then you are not a catholic.

If you are a Mormon, and a deacon in the church to boot, you believe in the book of mormon or you're not a mormon. Can we agree on that? The book of mormon says that catholics, jews and moslems , and all other religions, are abominations. Which is why I said Romney BELIEVES it, not said it. I don't have to go into his heart to know what he believes. He believes you are an abomination or he's out , plain and simple. Do you understand? I may not be the brighest light bulb, but I would not vote for a person who believes I'm an abomination. But YOU did. Bravo.
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"The birth certificate" is a fraud! With no official Hawaiian state seal and required signatures seen on All BC from Hawaii at the same time, example the Nordyke twins born one day apart from O'fraud, at the same hospital he claims at his birth place, yet ONLY his has a register number out of sequence or missing state seal and required signatures, and the alleged hospital to date will not confirm O'frauds public claims!
Stating a place of birth means squat with a fake BC and unconfirmed birth place!
Why don't you look up what the governor of Hawaii finally decided, that he could not find any proof that O'fraud had been born ant where in Hawaii.
The address given in the news announcement is fake as O'fraud! There is no record of the O'frauds ever living there, the next door neighbor who still lives next to this address and was there before the mystery Barry Soetoro/Obama was reportedly created says no one ever lived there with a half black child or baby! Why hasn't anyone ever produced records of the past owners or residence of this address? Easy enough for the likes of Anderson cooper Obama to research and prove!!
The officials of both parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed all the facts on Obama's birth certificate, including the fact that he was born in Kapiolani Hospital in Hawaii, which confirmation was accepted as proof of birth in Hawaii by the CONSERVATIVE Secretary of State of Arizona, who ruled that Obama would be on the ballot---and he was.

For those of you who still believe that Obama could have been born somewhere else than in Hawaii, a question:

You may know (but, actually, you might have forgotten) that the US government requires, and has long required, that a child being carried into the USA must have some kind of official travel document to be admitted.

This is usually a US passport for the child. Or, it could be the fact that the child is entered on the mother’s US passport. Or, it could be a US visa for the child on a foreign passport. Without one of those, we would not let the child into the country.

So, IF Obama really had been born in Kenya (or in any country other than the USA), he would have had to have one of those documents. His family would have had to show the passport. To show the passport, they would have had to have applied for the passport or the visa for Obama. And, if Obama really were born in Kenya (or another country), they would have had to have applied for it in the US consulate or embassy there, wouldn’t they?

Such applications are FILED by the US government. The documents exist in multiple files, the actual application itself, communication about it with Washington, entries in the passport file, entries in the application file, entries in the places where the child is carried into the USA. The Bush Administration was in charge of the State Department and the INS for eight years before Obama was elected. Don’t you think that they would have checked the claim that he was born outside the USA?

All they had to do was find one of those files and McCain would win the election.

Well, they never did.

So, do you think that the Bush Administration was part of the plot?

The absence of the travel document, plus the Hawaii birth certificate, plus the confirmation of the facts on it by three Republican (and several Democrat) officials, plus the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, plus the witness who remembers being told of the birth and writing home about it (to her father, named Stanley, about the unusual event of a birth to a woman named Stanley). All this is evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Oh, and by the way, Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that Obama was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii. And she said in another interview, with the Hartford Courtant newspaper, that the first that her family had heard of Obama’s birth was IN A LETTER FROM HAWAII.
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Forget Northern vs Southern and look at the overall picture of DemoKKKrat vs Republican.
The House version of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by only 61 percent of that Chamber's Democrats versus 80 percent of the Republicans.
More importantly, it was Republicans that ended a Democrat filibuster preventing a vote on this bill in the Senate. 82 percent of Republicans voted for cloture versus 66 percent of Democrats.
In the final Senate vote on the Act, 82 percent of Republicans voted "Aye" versus 69 percent of Democrats.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...
Goat Boy demonstrates, yet again, that he knows nothing of history.
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Noway Duh wrote:
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"The birth certificate" is a fraud! With no official Hawaiian state seal and required signatures seen on All BC from Hawaii at the same time, example the Nordyke twins born one day apart from O'fraud, at the same hospital he claims at his birth place, yet ONLY his has a register number out of sequence or missing state seal and required signatures, and the alleged hospital to date will not confirm O'frauds public claims!
Stating a place of birth means squat with a fake BC and unconfirmed birth place!
Why don't you look up what the governor of Hawaii finally decided, that he could not find any proof that O'fraud had been born ant where in Hawaii.
The address given in the news announcement is fake as O'fraud! There is no record of the O'frauds ever living there, the next door neighbor who still lives next to this address and was there before the mystery Barry Soetoro/Obama was reportedly created says no one ever lived there with a half black child or baby! Why hasn't anyone ever produced records of the past owners or residence of this address? Easy enough for the likes of Anderson cooper Obama to research and prove!!
The state seal is on the long form birth certificate. It just is not visible on the scanned image.

Oh, and who told you that birth certificate numbers were supposed to be in chronological order? WND has showed, but has taken down from its site for obvious reasons, the birth certificate of a child who was born even later than the Nordyke Twins, and guess what, the number was lower than their numbers and lower even than Obama's number. So, what gave you the idea that the numbers were issued in chronological order?
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If you are a catholic and you do not believe in the Holy Trinity, then you are not a catholic.
If you are a Mormon, and a deacon in the church to boot, you believe in the book of mormon or you're not a mormon. Can we agree on that? The book of mormon says that catholics, jews and moslems , and all other religions, are abominations. Which is why I said Romney BELIEVES it, not said it. I don't have to go into his heart to know what he believes. He believes you are an abomination or he's out , plain and simple. Do you understand? I may not be the brighest light bulb, but I would not vote for a person who believes I'm an abomination. But YOU did. Bravo.
So, you do claim to be a mind reader! You do not and never will know what the man believes or what he doesn't. You simply can't make that statement because you do not know. LMAO squid
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When was Reagan EVER considered a southern Democrat, MORON!
Now Goat Boy, you are changing the question after I posted the answer to your question. What does that mean? It means I proved that you are an idiot with zero knowledge of history. You just made yourself look like a fool.....again!!!

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