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The Ku Klux Klan once again controls Indiana
12.11.2012
As I noted in a previous Pravda.Ru article, Boycott Indiana (January 11, 2012), Indiana has always had a sordid reputation when it comes to race relations: "Sometimes referred to as the 'northernmost southern state,' Indiana's Constitution of 1851 banned African-Americans from coming into or settling in the state. During the 1920s ... up to one-third of all white males in the state were members of [the Ku Klux Klan], and in 1930, in the City of Marion, two African-American men, Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith, were the victims of a highly publicized lynching."
Recently Mitch Daniels, Indiana's outgoing governor, whose hostility against labor is even more virulent than Walker's, added a new category of victims to Indiana's Klan inspired politics: Indiana workers. As I explained in Boycott, "On his first day in office, Daniels signed an order ending collective bargaining with public employee unions, and he continued to worship at the altar of "privatization" by selling off bits of Indiana to corporate interests."
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/1...
Pravda, eh? And I thought Indiana had gone "Romney"? KKK, eh? But you don't know that, do you?
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This Petraeus thing is designed to do several things:
1. Keep the talk about the election fraud on the back pages...anything is better than talking about that for obama now.
2. It is a distraction to shield obama from the above, and to keep Petraeus from testifying. No doubt he said he would and they nailed him with this. He outed himself on purpose.
3. It is also being used as a distraction from Benghazi ...they hope to destroy this man so that his testimony is not taken seriously.
Clinton thinks she can get out of testifying. She can't. Petraeus has to testify one way or the other.
Now obama wants Rice to be Clinton. He is trying to buy her loyalty as she will testify. obama is getting it from all sides now.
Strange, how the tide turns. We are now to believe that Obama engineered the whole thing, starting from arranging for the general's liaison, and who knows how long it's gone on, having his staff write threatening letter to the Gen's misstress, forcing the General to resign and making sure he does not testify. Wow. Damn Obama, he sure can move.

Oh, I forgot. He was re-elected November 6. Romney didn't have a concession speech as aka American er hmm traitor lady and LSR and GB and patriot warrior and Guru and Just sayin' and raging Sioux were celebrating Romney's CERTAIN victory. Do I recall telling you birther stooges that there was nothing worse than too-high expectations, that you would fall from even higher? You did, now you're insanely crazy angry. Sore losers . Never mind "sore". LOSERS. Period.
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Most people are so deeply ignorant that they are incapable of understanding just how ignorant they are.®
by ~ NowhereMan
I see you're still working on it. Let us know when finally you've discovered the depths of YOUR ignorance. And do the birthers' examination too, save time.
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U.S. to Be World’s Top Oil Producer in 5 Years, Report Says
The United States will overtake Saudi Arabia as the world’s leading oil producer by about 2017 and will become a net oil exporter by 2030, the International Energy Agency said Monday.
That increased oil production, combined with new American policies to improve energy efficiency, means that the United States will become “all but self-sufficient” in meeting its energy needs in about two decades — a “dramatic reversal of the trend” in most developed countries, a new report released by the agency says.
“The foundations of the global energy systems are shifting,” Fatih Birol, chief economist at the Paris-based organization, which produces the annual World Energy Outlook, said in an interview before the release. The agency, which advises industrialized nations on energy issues, had previously predicted that Saudi Arabia would be the leading producer until 2035.
The report also predicted that global energy demand would grow between 35 and 46 percent from 2010 to 2035, depending on whether policies that have been proposed are put in place. Most of that growth will come from China, India and the Middle East, where the consuming class is growing rapidly. The consequences are “potentially far-reaching” for global energy markets and trade, the report said.
Dr. Birol noted, for example, that Middle Eastern oil once bound for the United States would probably be rerouted to China. American-mined coal, facing declining demand in its home market, is already heading to Europe and China instead.
There are several components of the sudden shift in the world’s energy supply, but the prime mover is a resurgence of oil and gas production in the United States, particularly the unlocking of new reserves of oil and gas found in shale rock. The widespread adoption of techniques like hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling has made those reserves much more accessible, and in the case of natural gas, resulted in a vast glut that has sent prices plunging.
The report predicted that the United States would overtake Russia as the leading producer of natural gas in 2015.
The strong statements and specific predictions by the energy agency lend new weight to trends that have become increasingly apparent in the last year.
“This striking conclusion confirms a lot of recent projections,” said Michael A. Levi, senior fellow for energy and environment at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Formed in 1974 after the oil crisis by a group of oil-importing nations, including the United States, the International Energy Agency monitors and analyzes global energy trends to ensure a safe and sustainable supply.
Mr. Levi said that the agency’s report was generally “good news” for the United States because it highlighted the nation’s new sources of energy. But he cautioned that being self-sufficient did not mean that the country would be insulated from seesawing energy prices, since those oil prices are set by global markets.
“You may be somewhat less vulnerable to price shocks and the U.S. may be slightly more protected, but it doesn’t give you the energy independence some people claim,” he said.
, primarily from the Obama administration’s new fuel economy standards for cars. He added that even stronger policies to promote energy efficiency were needed in the United States and many other countries.
Well, well, I read the same report this morning. Damn Obama, closing all those national parks to drilling. Silence on this one from birthers and tea partyers. Even Canada is worried, we may lose a third of our exports. Sory, nebka, had to cut a bit of your post as I didn't have enough room. Tks.
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<quoted text>Strange, how the tide turns. We are now to believe that Obama engineered the whole thing, starting from arranging for the general's liaison, and who knows how long it's gone on, having his staff write threatening letter to the Gen's misstress, forcing the General to resign and making sure he does not testify. Wow. Damn Obama, he sure can move.

Oh, I forgot. He was re-elected November 6. Romney didn't have a concession speech as aka American er hmm traitor lady and LSR and GB and patriot warrior and Guru and Just sayin' and raging Sioux were celebrating Romney's CERTAIN victory. Do I recall telling you birther stooges that there was nothing worse than too-high expectations, that you would fall from even higher? You did, now you're insanely crazy angry. Sore losers . Never mind "sore". LOSERS. Period.
Just as I predicted yesterday. Birfoons now fantasize that Obama planned the whole thing over a year ago.

Next prediction - more epic failure by Birfoons
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Cops: Woman angered by Obama re-election runs over husband for not voting
Source: Orlando Sentinel
PHOENIX — An Arizona woman, in despair at the re-election of Democratic President Barack Obama, ran down her husband with the family car in suburban Phoenix on Saturday because he failed to vote in the election, police said Monday.
Holly Solomon, 28, was arrested after running over husband Daniel Solomon following a wild chase that left him pinned underneath the vehicle.
Daniel Solomon, 36, was in critical condition at a local hospital but is expected to survive, Gilbert police spokesman Sgt. Jesse Sanger said.
Police said Daniel Solomon told them his wife became angry over his "lack of voter participation" in last Tuesday's presidential election and believed her family would face hardship as a result of Obama winning another term.
Read more: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/bre...
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The stupid is stong in this one. Note that this took place in Arizona, which Romney won! Thus, her husband's vote would have zero impact because Romney already won the State. Of course, this just happens to be the same State as the Gifford shooting. Perhaps some folks take Rush Limbaugh and Fox News way too literally.
And she is a sane birther! Imagine the rest.
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WEDNESDAY NOV 8
FOX DID YOU A GRAND DISSERVICE AND MADE MILLIONS DOING IT...
For liberals like me, Fox News was the channel to watch last night. As it became clear early on that Obama was going to take this thing, my household quickly switched the channel from CNN to Fox, eager to see the network’s massive breakdown play out in real time. After all, if the job of Fox News these past four years was to make Obama a one-term president, a goal the network not-incidentally shared with the Republican Party, Fox News super-duper seriously failed.
In 2009, White House communications director Anita Dunn called Fox News "either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party.” I don’t know about the “or” part. With massive funds and infinite air time, Roger Ailes’ little network that could spent the past four years demonizing president Obama (after a year of demonizing candidate Obama), and obsessively churning up non-news to scare the shit out of white guys and feed into the GOP bloodstream: from the Black Panthers’ remarkable rise to political power to that thing about the guns and Mexico named after an awesome Vin Diesel movie to the multifront war on Christmas/Christians/Christ to The Great Benghazi Conspiracy of 2012.
And what do they have to show for it? Not a Republican president. Not a Republican Senate. Not a repealed health care law. Adding insult to Tuesday’s injury, Eric Holder is still a free man.
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Yes, ratings. Yes, money. I hear you. But if Fox News has any actual interest in helping the Republican Party or the conservative cause—and you can want to do this and make money, just like the GOP!—the network really flubbed it. So what happened, other than the mainstream media oppressors shutting down the truth once again and polling places letting Hispanics in?
In 2009, Gawker published a post titled “What’s Bad for the GOP is Good for Fox News,” arguing that Republicans’ worst nightmare—the election of a black, Democratic president who listens to the rap music and gives young, female, and non-white Americans hope—was actually a dream come true for Rupert Murdoch’s money-minting, 24-hour news network. Pointing to this illustrative graph, Gawker’s John Cook (who, full disclosure, is my husband) wrote that “the more viewers Fox attracts, the more voters the GOP repels.”
But in 2010, the GOP/Fox News Industrial Complex proved Gawker —and many Democrats who assumed Fox had taken things too far—wrong. With the aid of the Fox-bolstered Tea Party revolution, the Fox-created Socialist-in-Chief, the Fox-aired town hall debacles, and the Fox-supported conspiracy theories of Glenn Beck, Republicans won the House and the narrative. We all gave in and started calling it Obamacare. 2012 looked to be a lost cause.
But Fox overreached. The midterm results told Sean Hannity and Gretchen Carlson and Megyn Kelly that they were doing something right, and so they kept at it. Donald Trump phoned in from Trump HQ daily to inform Greta Van Susteren’s viewers about his heroic quest for the missing birth certificate. Glenn Beck presented his irrefutable evidence that everything is connected and all roads lead to the Jews/Kenya/Cass Sunstein. Beck finally got canned in 2011, but Hannity picked up some of his nut-job slack. The liberals on Hannity’s panel got paler and sicklier by design (my theory, at least), and the true-believer conservatives became more insufferably confident and dismissive of any potential Obama revival.
Excellent. And soooo true.
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Justice Scalia has already drafted the official response to the "petitions":

“I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede.(Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance,“one Nation, indivisible.”) Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.”
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Goat Boy wrote:
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I wonder if Sheriff Joe, and the people of the State of Arizona, know he is not Law Enforcement?
The illegal aliens housed in pink underwear sure know that he is Law Enforcement.
What segment of society do Sheriff's represent in your deluded mind?
Now Sheriff Joe is law enforcement, but not the members of the Arizona Cartoon Posse. The Cartoon Posse included retired law enforcement, self-anointed document 'experts', nut cases from Birtherville, and a variety of Obama haters.

IF there was any real fraud in the document and a crime was committed, real law enforcement would have sent the results to the District Attorney who might file charges.

That didn't happen in this case as the Arizona Cartoon Posse has no legal standing.

Ol' Joe just supported the publicity stunt to get the heat off himself because he was being investigated.
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Oh, I know real history.
I just don't believe in your revisionist history.
Why do you use 3 K's for the Republicans when the DemoKKKrats started the organization that bears those letters?
Tell us that fairy-tale again about how the Republicans passed those Jim Crow laws to keep the Blacks under their control.
Please, explain in detail.
Here's the short verson.

The southern racists dems of the 1860's have transformed into and become the southern racists repubs of the 2000's.

I can provide more detail and examples if needed.

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Rep. King: Petraeus ‘going to have to testify one way or the other’
“As far as I’m concerned, the intelligence committee has to interview Gen. Petraeus. Whether or not he’s head of the CIA is almost irrelevant to him testifying,” King said.“He’s the only one who would have the facts that we are looking for, so he’s going to have to testify one way or the other.”
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/10/rep-king-pe...
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Apples and oranges stupid punk. You could say that for every "kinetic military action" every undertaken by this country.Don't try to change the subject coward and do the childish " two wrongs make a right." Obama is responsible for many soldiers deaths deployed in Afghanistan by your standard. But I don't blame him for that. I will support him as the CIC in such endeavors but not this.Besides, until we get answers, we don't know who is really responsible. Are you saying you don't want to investigate it at all ? Hell , war criminals from WWII are still hunted down. There is a difference in casualties due to engaging the enemy and outright murder. Second degree murder I grant you, maybe third degree, but we have to know. I lost family in Vietnam, under Johnson, a war Kennedy set in motion but I don't blame them for the deaths.That was a democratic war. Nixon did a surge like we did and then ended the war like he promised. Sound familiar ? I hated the coward hippie protesters here that spit at my brothers when they came home and cursed them.One of my uncles wasn't so lucky. That is people like you now. Cowardly cowering hippie protesting haters of the USA and a stain on our great country. My family was drafted, they didn't choose to go to a war but they did the honorable thing when they were called up like most good young men of that time did.
I hate you and traitors like you. I can't say what I to say to you on-line but I can hope you talk trash like this in real life to a newly returned veteran. They will stomp a mud hole in your ass.
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I recall that Watergate was about the heroics of the press to reveal corruption at the highest levels of government. Now, the MSM is helping cover up the biggest scandal apparently seen at the highest levels of Government. People, I think for many reasons millions of us need to go to Washington D.C. in a peaceful but firm manner and demand answers.!o million people can surround the whole damn D.C. seats of power.. The press is not going to do its job. How can we honor the fallen on Veterans day when people in this administration allowed an American ambassador and our seals ( there is no ex-navy seals ) to be mowed down , murdered by a planned terrorist attack. Evidence of prior warnings is documented, more security requested, its all recorded on audio and video, the ambassadors "diary" . How can we deploy anyone overseas now if they and the families do not even believe the CIC will have their backs ? Somebody told rescue to stand down. Then the lying video story is just obscene in how long they stuck to the lie and how forcefully they propagated it.
Please don't let their deaths be for nothing. We left our men behind. We are a nation without honor if we do not make this right and see justice brought to bear on the guilty parties in government. I ask an old question ; " What did the President know and when did he know it ? " This is just heartbreaking.
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Amen Bro AMEN <3
Newt Gingrich was on Fox and Friends this morning and he contradicted what had been said about Gen. Partaeus' testimony in front of the closed-door House hearing a month a go. It had been leaked that Gen. Peytaeus had backed Obama's story that it was a protest about that Youtube film but Newt said it was the exact opposite of what Gen. Peytaeus had actually said.
This would give credence that Obama is blackmailing Peyraeus and had him resign before the new hearings this week.

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NO more American Lady wrote:
Rep. King: Petraeus ‘going to have to testify one way or the other’
“As far as I’m concerned, the intelligence committee has to interview Gen. Petraeus. Whether or not he’s head of the CIA is almost irrelevant to him testifying,” King said.“He’s the only one who would have the facts that we are looking for, so he’s going to have to testify one way or the other.”
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/10/rep-king-pe...
LtTackleBerry
Apples and oranges stupid punk. You could say that for every "kinetic military action" every undertaken by this country.Don't try to change the subject coward and do the childish " two wrongs make a right." Obama is responsible for many soldiers deaths deployed in Afghanistan by your standard. But I don't blame him for that. I will support him as the CIC in such endeavors but not this.Besides, until we get answers, we don't know who is really responsible. Are you saying you don't want to investigate it at all ? Hell , war criminals from WWII are still hunted down. There is a difference in casualties due to engaging the enemy and outright murder. Second degree murder I grant you, maybe third degree, but we have to know. I lost family in Vietnam, under Johnson, a war Kennedy set in motion but I don't blame them for the deaths.That was a democratic war. Nixon did a surge like we did and then ended the war like he promised. Sound familiar ? I hated the coward hippie protesters here that spit at my brothers when they came home and cursed them.One of my uncles wasn't so lucky. That is people like you now. Cowardly cowering hippie protesting haters of the USA and a stain on our great country. My family was drafted, they didn't choose to go to a war but they did the honorable thing when they were called up like most good young men of that time did.
I hate you and traitors like you. I can't say what I to say to you on-line but I can hope you talk trash like this in real life to a newly returned veteran. They will stomp a mud hole in your ass.
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LtTackleBerry
I recall that Watergate was about the heroics of the press to reveal corruption at the highest levels of government. Now, the MSM is helping cover up the biggest scandal apparently seen at the highest levels of Government. People, I think for many reasons millions of us need to go to Washington D.C. in a peaceful but firm manner and demand answers.!o million people can surround the whole damn D.C. seats of power.. The press is not going to do its job. How can we honor the fallen on Veterans day when people in this administration allowed an American ambassador and our seals ( there is no ex-navy seals ) to be mowed down , murdered by a planned terrorist attack. Evidence of prior warnings is documented, more security requested, its all recorded on audio and video, the ambassadors "diary" . How can we deploy anyone overseas now if they and the families do not even believe the CIC will have their backs ? Somebody told rescue to stand down. Then the lying video story is just obscene in how long they stuck to the lie and how forcefully they propagated it.
Please don't let their deaths be for nothing. We left our men behind. We are a nation without honor if we do not make this right and see justice brought to bear on the guilty parties in government. I ask an old question ; " What did the President know and when did he know it ? " This is just heartbreaking.
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Amen Bro AMEN <3
Newt Gingrich was on Fox and Friends this morning and he contradicted what had been said about Gen. Partaeus' testimony in front of the closed-door House hearing a month a go. It had been leaked that Gen. Peytaeus had backed Obama's story that it was a protest about that Youtube film but Newt said it was the exact opposite of what Gen. Peytaeus had actually said.
This would give credence that Obama is blackmailing Peyraeus and had him resign before the new hearings this week.

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Now Sheriff Joe is law enforcement, but not the members of the Arizona Cartoon Posse. The Cartoon Posse included retired law enforcement, self-anointed document 'experts', nut cases from Birtherville, and a variety of Obama haters.
IF there was any real fraud in the document and a crime was committed, real law enforcement would have sent the results to the District Attorney who might file charges.
That didn't happen in this case as the Arizona Cartoon Posse has no legal standing.
Ol' Joe just supported the publicity stunt to get the heat off himself because he was being investigated.
Who said he did not send it to the DA? You can not make a DA do anything!
Oh, the investigation did not stop because of Sheriff Joe's investigation.

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Here's the short verson.
The southern racists dems of the 1860's have transformed into and become the southern racists repubs of the 2000's.
I can provide more detail and examples if needed.
Or so you say. It is you Dems who have put the blacks in the ghettos and you keep them stupid by sending them to ghetto schools.
Fact, only 63% of all Democrats in Congress voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 compared to 80% of all Republicans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act...

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Here's the short verson.
The southern racists dems of the 1860's have transformed into and become the southern racists repubs of the 2000's.
I can provide more detail and examples if needed.
Please do give examples?

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Justice Scalia has already drafted the official response to the "petitions":
“I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede.(Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance,“one Nation, indivisible.”) Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.”
And your link? The USSC does not publish "drafts"!!!
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http://adf.ly/EfbCH do u beleive the obama romney conspricy its all to do with bush
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No, so-called patriot warrior, it's not me. I have ONE moniker, unlike you. And I told you, he/she writes better than me.
LMAO at this silly fool.
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Who said he did not send it to the DA? You can not make a DA do anything!
Oh, the investigation did not stop because of Sheriff Joe's investigation.
So did the Cartoon Posse sent the results to the DA or not?

Why didn't the DA file charges?

It's all a publicity stunt.
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Sad America-loving conservatives already demanding secession
Aw, the party of 'Merika has an enormous post-election sad:
In the aftermath of last week's presidential election, residents in at least nineteen states have put up petitions on the government's "We the People" petitioning website seeking the right to secede from the rest of the country.[…]
Petitions for secession filed from Louisiana and Texas have already received well over 10,000 signatures. Per the website's own rules, petitions that garner 25,000 signatures or more within 30 days require a response from the Obama administration.
Apparently this is the part of the conservative realization that (1) yes, the president is still a scary black man, and (2) nobody in America but them has a problem with that. There's also been some premise going around that Obama's moderateness and centrism the last four years only goes to prove how much he's going to be a crazy secret-Muslim radical during the next four years, and if you can unpack that logic, you've got me beat. I have no idea what they're going on about. Oh, and the Texas version has already topped the 25K threshold, so congratulations, Texas conservatives! You'll be getting a special note from the Obama administration suggesting where you can go!
This doesn't seem to be a purely regional thing, since even folks in Oregon and New York are piping up with their own petitions (and really, if you're an Oregon or New York conservative, I feel a good amount of pity for you, I really do). But I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This notion of conservative secession has its merits. Of course, as "True America" we'd want to attach some constraints to the separatists: no nuclear weapons, get your own damn military, and we'll be carving out territory for you that consists entirely of places close to sea level, so that you can ignore climate change from the best possible vantage point. But this sounds pretty doable, once the logistics get worked out. So what are you going to call yourselves? United Galts of America? New Jesusland? That's great, we'll send you a card.
You are a certifiable nutcase. What poor azz third world country did you sneak in from? Pure trash.

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