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The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#126140 Nov 12, 2012
'Mr. Boehner has got to understand they lost'

Bernie Sanders rebuts the ludicrous argument that Americans gave Republicans a mandate to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy:

Well, I think the objective facts disagree with that assertion. The Democrats gained two seats in the Senate, did better than anyone dreamed. The Democrats gained more votes in the House, gained a few seats in the House. President Obama won a resounding electoral college victory and won the popular vote, I think by two and a half million votes.[Note: It's actually 3.3 million as of now.]
To suggest the Republicans did well in this election makes no sense at all.

President Obama was very clear. He spoke about this all of the time: if reelected, he is not going to extend tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires. He was reelected. Many of us ran on a similar program. We were reelected.

So I think Mr. Boehner has got to understand they lost, and let the wishes of the majority of the people in this country prevail.

Yup.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#126142 Nov 12, 2012
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
Frigid to you maybe, but not me. It takes me twice as long to get into a Conservative lady's pants but once there, they know how to give. And in reality, that is what sexual intimacy is really about. And you kind of get an idea the next morning when she has that Mona Liza grin on her face!
Oh, Thomas, that's what you said about Mark Foley.
NO more American Lady

Danville, KY

#126143 Nov 12, 2012
YOU WERE WARNED!

100 Days - 100 Warnings (Video)

Congressmen, Governor, Ambassador Warnings

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Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#126144 Nov 12, 2012
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, 1.6% of the popular vote is NOT a landslide.
A landslide was in 1984 when Ronald Reagan won a 18.2% difference in the popular vote over, ah over, ah, ah, yea, what's his name!
<quoted text>
My source is Wiki. What is your's?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_pr ...
<quoted text>
Hey, he finally read something. Now, can you read this link?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_pr...
Why don't you just admit that you F-upped yet again?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#126145 Nov 12, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
HER jaundiced truth. However you hate your president, you are not allowed as a teacher to voice it to your young students. And remember, it's her version of the truth. And 60 million + voters beg to differ. You lost, hater sore loser, accept it.
Wannabe. Accept it!
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#126146 Nov 12, 2012
About that mandate...

A funny thing about mandates. While the general conservative reaction to the Obama victory is either pushing a fellow conservative off a tall building, or explaining that now that Obama won, he should govern like a conservative for unity's sake, the numbers are pretty interesting.

Remember that this is all preliminary, and there are votes yet to count. But for now, using Dave Leip's excellent US Election Atlas:

• John Kerry (48.27%) got a bigger percentage of the popular vote than either Mitt Romney (47.85) or John McCain (45.6)

* Kerry's 251 electoral votes was greater than McCain's 173 and Romney's 206.(Losing didn't stop McCain from being on MTP every Sunday.)

• Barack Obama's electoral wins (332 and 365) dwarfs Bush's (286 and 271). Clinton got 379 and 370. You have to go back to 1988 for George HW Bush's 426 to find a Republican win over 300.

• Obama's 61,939,115 is more than Bush in 2000 (50,460,110) and closing in on Bush in 2004 (62,040,610 )— remember, there are still votes to count.[UPDATE on Google puts Obama at 62,088,847 surpassing Bush.]

Keep the above in mind when pundits declare there's no mandate here. These are the same pundits insisting the vote was tied.

They were wrong about that, too.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#126148 Nov 12, 2012
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
Now I have asked this question over and over again and not one Libtards has had the gonads to take the question on.
I understand workman's comp but I do not understand why any business should have to contribute to any employees health care much less his spouse and children.
Let's say I go out hunting, fall out of a tree and break my leg. What does the people I work for have to do with it?
Come on now, any of you have half a brain?
Just as soon as you acknowledge that the levees that failed in NO were designed and built by the Army Corps of Engineers.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#126149 Nov 12, 2012
The Truth wrote:
'Mr. Boehner has got to understand they lost'
Bernie Sanders rebuts the ludicrous argument that Americans gave Republicans a mandate to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy:
Well, I think the objective facts disagree with that assertion. The Democrats gained two seats in the Senate, did better than anyone dreamed. The Democrats gained more votes in the House, gained a few seats in the House. President Obama won a resounding electoral college victory and won the popular vote, I think by two and a half million votes.[Note: It's actually 3.3 million as of now.]
To suggest the Republicans did well in this election makes no sense at all.
President Obama was very clear. He spoke about this all of the time: if reelected, he is not going to extend tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires. He was reelected. Many of us ran on a similar program. We were reelected.
So I think Mr. Boehner has got to understand they lost, and let the wishes of the majority of the people in this country prevail.
Yup.
If I haven't cut the deficit in half by the end of my term, I will not seek re-election.....Omammie's word is shat!
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#126150 Nov 12, 2012
An Election to Be Proud of

If we rise above party politics for a few minutes, and we should, we would feel a real sense of pride about Tuesday's election -- particularly what it says about America and Americans. This is based on four observations; and it takes into account the regrettable fact that hundreds of millions of dollars were wasted on negative and often misleading advertising in an overly-bitter and ridiculously-expensive campaign.

While worried about the economy, Americans did not opt for unspecified promises and immaculate job creation; nor did they fall for financial engineering and deficit reduction magic. Instead, they stuck with an approach that has been establishing, albeit too slowly and too gradually, the foundation for solid growth and employment; and these are the two key ingredients for safely de-leveraging over time an economy that got drunk last decade on debt creation, credit entitlements and a crazy risk and compensation culture.

Americans also signaled that they are committed to a better educational system. This is most visible in California where we voted to increase taxes to better fund schools. It is also part of a growing realization that, if we are not careful, for the first time in over a hundred years our children's generation risks being worse off than that of their parents. Thus the importance of providing our youth a stronger educational experience, and equipping them with responsive analytical tools and more global mindsets -- all of which are essential to navigate what inevitably will be a more challenging domestic and international context.

Concern about supporting the vulnerable groups of society does not stop at education. For some, Elizabeth Warren's decisive win in Massachusetts put an exclamation mark on the importance of helping those who have fallen through our overly stretched social safety nets.

Finally, by electing a record number of women to serve in the Senate, Americans continue to signal the importance of inclusiveness and diversity. Yet this number, and that of Hispanics and other minority groups, remain well below what is both desirable and feasible based on qualifications, talent and experience. If we are to handle well the future, we need our governing institutions to better reflect demographic realities.

As we look forward, we should expect a lot of soul searching among Republicans.

They lost a presidential contest that many of them expected to win. They gave up seats in the Senate. They failed to capitalize on disappointments with some elements of President Obama's first term. And they struggled to sufficiently extend widespread support beyond the traditional base of white men.

Let us hope that this soul searching, together with Democrats' strengthened commitment to govern for all Americans, leads to constructive collaboration in Congress.

On Tuesday, America and Americans sent a clear signal that they understand the importance of supporting each other during times of continued economic stress and "unusual uncertainty." We now need our elected representatives to put the interests of the country ahead of the legacy of backward-looking and outdated partisan commitments. And we need them to do so quickly, starting with an orderly resolution of the fiscal cliff.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#126151 Nov 12, 2012
Noway Duh wrote:
<quoted text>
What a libtard! For four years they have been talking about how Oshite has spent double of what Bush did with nothing to show for it! What did that buy, four years of higher unemployment and a failed economy. But then again that is Libtard math it doesn't have to add up!
As bad as that might sound, one would be tempted to take what you falsely label as four years of higher unemployment and a failed economy over 9 years of Afghan - Iraq war which put the US in hock with the Chinese, the Japanese and the Saudis, killed over 6,000 Americans, 30 times the number of Afghans and Iraqis, unsettled the total middle east situation, as Iraq, the sworn enemy of Iran and buffer between Iran and the west, hasbecome Iran's trusted ally. And infrastructure in those two countries half destroyed and oil as expensive as ever (thank you for nothing, Iraq), as indeed to thank the US for its "assistance", just signed a huge exploration deal with... Russia. Fabulous. Good work, GWB. Pile on top of that the worst recession since 1929, thank you GWB. Hmm, Obama's 4 years of so-called higher unemployment and failed ecomomy look mighty good. Oh, btw, do you suppose it's better to be unemployed than dead in some far-off country that you could not even find on a map?
Grand Birther

Brooklyn, NY

#126152 Nov 12, 2012
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, 1.6% of the popular vote is NOT a landslide.
A landslide was in 1984 when Ronald Reagan won a 18.2% difference in the popular vote over, ah over, ah, ah, yea, what's his name!
<quoted text>
My source is Wiki. What is your's?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_pr...
The guy who handed you your arse last Tuesday.

"Those votes could be enough to push Mr. Obama’s margin of victory in the national popular vote, reported at 2.7 percent as of Monday morning, to slightly higher than 3 percent."

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#126153 Nov 12, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Deluged?
Official response "hahahah"
20 states, and not even 25,000 signatures yet. How many is that per state? What just plain fools.
NO more American Lady

Danville, KY

#126154 Nov 12, 2012
Will Texas secede? Petition reaches 25,000 signatures, triggering White House review

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/12/will-texas-...
Grand Birther

Brooklyn, NY

#126155 Nov 12, 2012
Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
Now I have asked this question over and over again and not one Libtards has had the gonads to take the question on.
I understand workman's comp but I do not understand why any business should have to contribute to any employees health care much less his spouse and children.
Let's say I go out hunting, fall out of a tree and break my leg. What does the people I work for have to do with it?
Come on now, any of you have half a brain?
Rogue, do you like your government funded health care and pension?

All evidence points to you being too dumb to take care of yourself, and you most likely would not have lived this long had your employer not invested in your health.
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#126156 Nov 12, 2012
The colossal failure of National Organization for Marriage

Tuesday was great.
After the bittersweet result of 2008 election with the joy of Obama's win being mitigated by the passage of Prop 8, 2012 was just a flat-out incredible night for the LGBT community. From the top of the ticket, to the smallest local races, conventional wisdom that gay is political kryptonite can finally be set out on the curb for pick up.

In the biggest race of the night, the gay friendliest president ever handily won reelection. Just a year ago it was very widely believed that a marriage equality supportive candidate could not win the swing states. And then, President Obama and his team bet against that and publicly endorsed the idea, and then went on to sweep all the swing states.

Come January, we'll have our first out LGB United States senator. The House will have at least six LGBT members including a second gay dad and the first gay person of color. In Colorado, an out gay man will serve as House Speaker, and a lesbian will be Senate pro-tem, the number two position in that chamber. Hundreds of out members of the gay community won in state and local races, including Stacie Laughton who in contrast to Obama's 58M-some, garnered just 1,588 votes but in New Hampshire that's enough to send her to the state House where she will be the first open transgender to serve.

"This wasn't incremental progress. This was a breathtaking leap forward," said Chuck Wolfe, president and CEO of the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund, dedicated to electing out politicians.

With the defeat of Minnesota's ban on marriage equality and a resurgent Democratic majority, talk has already turned to moving forward legislatively with marriage equality there. Conservatives may rue they picked that fight last year and activated a community, and their network of friends and family, to fight back.



But let's pause and reflect that rarely has a political movement, organization or candidate for all their spending and efforts emerged with so much egg on their face as National Organization for Marriage (NOM) did this cycle. Calling this "The Marriage Election," they tried their best, up and down the ticket to make it a national referendum on gay people's right to marry.
It was, of course, very literally a referendum on LGBT people's right to marry in four states, all four opposition campaigns NOM largely funded and controlled and all of which NOM lost.

But NOM's ambition was bigger than just the ballot initiatives, and they may have bitten off more than they could chew.

They sought to punish the four marriage equality supportive Republicans in the New York senate and had at best mixed results. One retired, one was reelected, one lost in a primary, and one lost in the general—to a Democrat who supports marriage equality "without hesitation" in his own words. So, it's unclear how that helps them, or proves their point voters hate gay-friendly politicians. Moreover, if they take credit for Republican Sen. Saland's defeat, we can also thank them for finally swaying the New York state Senate back into Democratic control, a rarity in that state. So thanks for that, and good luck on your fanciful New York repeal plan, now that you've helped the LGBT community and their allies return control both state chambers to Democrats again.

They attempted to unseat an Iowa Supreme Court Justice that ruled for marriage equality there, but again, the tactic that succeeded in the past failed in 2012 and Justice Wiggins was retained. This despite NOM spending $465,000 to unseat him.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#126157 Nov 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Economists Supporting Mitt Romney for President
Signed (affiliations listed for identification purposes only),
Gary Becker, Nobel laureate
James Buchanan, Nobel laureate
Robert Lucas, Nobel laureate
Robert Mundell, Nobel laureate
Edward Prescott, Nobel laureate
Myron Scholes, Nobel laureate
Burton Abrams, University of Delaware
James D. Adams, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Richard Adams, Oregon State University
Douglas Adie, Ohio University
Lee C. Adkins, Oklahoma State University
Richard Agnello, University of Delaware
James Ahiakpor, California State University, East Bay
Francis Ahking, University of Connecticut
William Albrecht, University of Iowa
Michael J. Alderson, Saint Louis University
Donald L. Alexander, Western Michigan University
John W. Allen, Texas A&M University
William Allen, University of California, Los Angeles
Fernando Alvarez, University of Chicago
Wayne Angell, Former Member, Federal Reserve Board
Joe Antos, American Enterprise Institute
J. J. Arias, Georgia College
Richard K. Armey, FreedomWorks
Nathan Ashby, University of Texas at El Paso
Christopher Azevedo, University of Central Missouri
Scott Baier, Clemson University
Charles Baird, California State University, East Bay
Eric Baklanoff, The University of Alabama
Spencer Banzhaf, Georgia State University
Christopher C. Barnekov, Ph.D., Chicago
Robert J. Barro, Harvard University
William Beach, Alexandria, VA
Howard Beales, George Washington University
Stacie Beck, University of Delaware
Larry Belcher, Taylor University
Don Bellante, University of South Florida
Bruce Bender, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Lee Benham, Washington University in St. Louis
Michael Bennett, Curry College
Bill Beranek, University of Georgia
M. Douglas Berg, Sam Houston State University
Richard Bernstein, Temple University
Sanjai Bhagat, University of Colorado
Andrew Biggs, American Enterprise Institute
Robert Bise, Orange Coast College
Michael Block, University of Arizona
Cecil Bohanon, Ball State University
Michael Bond, University of Arizona
Carlos Bonilla, Airline Forecasts
Donald Booth, Chapman University
G. Geoffrey Booth, Michigan State University
Karl Borden, University of Nebraska
Michael Bordo, Rutgers University
George Borts, Brown Universiy
Michael Boskin, Stanford University
Edward H. Boss, Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability Illinois State Legislature
John Boyce, University of Calgary
John Boyd, University of Minnesota
Edward Boyer, Temple University
Gordon Brady, glbradygroup.com
Daniel Brandt, Chevy Chase, MD
Ike Brannon, American Action Forum
David Brat, Randolph-Macon College
Charles Breeden, Marquette University
Ivan Brick, Rutgers University
Alex Brill, American Enterprise Institute
Roger Brinner, The Parthenon Group
Wayne T. Brough, FreedomWorks
James Armistead Brown, Jr., Arlington, VA
James N. Brown, Rice University
Jeffrey Brown, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
David P. Brown, University of Wisconsin, Madison
Edgar Browning, Texas A&M University
Eric Brucker, Widener University
Lawrence Brunner, Central Michigan University
Peter Brust, University of Tampa
Phillip Bryson, Brigham Young University
William K. Buchanan, Valdosta State University
Todd Buchholz, Sproglit, LLC
M. Northrup Buechner, St. John’s University
Van Bullock, New Mexico State University
Richard Burdekin, Claremont McKenna College
Richard Burkhauser, Cornell University
Andrew Busch, BMO Capital Markets
James Butkiewicz, University of Delaware
Henry Butler, George Mason University School of Law
William Butos, Trinity College
Frank Caliendo, Utah State University
Charles Calomiris, Columbia University
Colin Campbell, Dartmouth College
William Campbell, Louisiana State University
http://economistsforromney.com/
HELL of a LOT more than I can LIST here !!!!!
Most of the above are made up. 6 Nobel laureates backing a voodoo economy plan that any undergrad economics student would get a failing mark for? Ha ha.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#126158 Nov 12, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Now, now...let's not forget all the damn indoctrination crap that Omammie started!
Are you really that ignorant? Obama, far as I know, was not teaching grammar school. He was teaching dolts like YOU and you of course did not get it. HE WAS ELECTED. HE WON. DO YOU COMPREHEND THAT?
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#126159 Nov 12, 2012
Mourning in America

By now, most of you have probably seen the Tumblr page entirely dedicated to pictures of white people mourning the Republican defeat last Tuesday.

I realize how easy it is to make fun of those people (our those people), but for me the images posted there call up -- somewhat to my surprise -- decidedly mixed emotions. Spite and sympathy, it seems, can co-exist, and even lay the groundwork for something that begins to resemble empathy.

It's an involuntary reflex, to be sure, after the bile, racism, and sheer deranged hatred those people have flung at us these past four years -- not to mention their cocksure arrogance (up until about 10:00 pm Tuesday night) that "real" Americans were going to rise as one and send the Kenyan usurper packing.

But looking at those woeful faces -- hopes smashed, the awful truth finally revealed -- it's hard not to remember election night 2004, when it became clear that lies and war crimes notwithstanding, President Cheney and his sidekick were going to be reelected despite our best efforts.

It's devastating to believe that your country has looked evil full in the face and decided to embrace it, and feel completely helpless to stop it. And if even one-twentieth of the things those people believe about President Obama, and about us, were true, they would be right to despair, just as we did eight years ago.

In the end, though, what really makes it hard for me to dine with gusto at the schadenfreude buffet is that the grieving faces on the other side of the partisan divide aren't those people, they're my people -- the middle-class neighbors of my Southern childhood, the kids I went to school with, my redneck uncles and cousins, my own mother and father.

The sagging chins and pot bellies, the crew cuts and blue hair, the bad make up and worse fashion sense -- these are all as familiar to me as the lines on my own face. I know these people too intimately, their pasts are too intertwined with mine, for me to look at them and see only the despised Other, even though I have no doubt that's how many, if not most, of them would look at me.

I also know that they have been lied to, with ferocious intensity and relentless dedication, by the conservative propaganda machine and its political masters. If we must have demons to hate, better to seek them among the con artists who have turned Rwandan-style hate speech into an industry profitable enough to rival the porn business.

I know it's customary at times such as these for victors to speak of reconciliation -- to remind the defeated, as President Obama never seems to get tired of repeating, that there are no red states, no blue states, just the United States of America. But that's not what I'm trying to do here. I have no particular interest in offering any olive branches. We've gone too far, traveling in opposite directions, to meet halfway now. One side must rule and the other must grind its teeth in rage. That being the case, I'd much rather it was them than us wearing down the enamel.

All that said, though, there is still something poignant, even tragic, about those faces of red America, something worthy of a eulogy. Their America -- Bill O'Reilly's "traditional America" -- is fading away. Whatever the future holds, it's not likely to look like them, or think like them, or live like them.

And in a way I can't quite explain, that fact lends a measure of dignity to their grief -- to the point where their faces almost begin to resemble old photos of Geronimo in captivity, his sad eyes looking past the camera to a vanished world that no white man can conquer.

And so, in that same spirit, let me offer this semi-affectionate and almost respectful tribute to our defeated enemies and their blasted hopes:

Mourning in America
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#126160 Nov 12, 2012
Mourning in America

By now, most of you have probably seen the Tumblr page entirely dedicated to pictures of white people mourning the Republican defeat last Tuesday.

I realize how easy it is to make fun of those people (our those people), but for me the images posted there call up -- somewhat to my surprise -- decidedly mixed emotions. Spite and sympathy, it seems, can co-exist, and even lay the groundwork for something that begins to resemble empathy.

It's an involuntary reflex, to be sure, after the bile, racism, and sheer deranged hatred those people have flung at us these past four years -- not to mention their cocksure arrogance (up until about 10:00 pm Tuesday night) that "real" Americans were going to rise as one and send the Kenyan usurper packing.

But looking at those woeful faces -- hopes smashed, the awful truth finally revealed -- it's hard not to remember election night 2004, when it became clear that lies and war crimes notwithstanding, President Cheney and his sidekick were going to be reelected despite our best efforts.

It's devastating to believe that your country has looked evil full in the face and decided to embrace it, and feel completely helpless to stop it. And if even one-twentieth of the things those people believe about President Obama, and about us, were true, they would be right to despair, just as we did eight years ago.

In the end, though, what really makes it hard for me to dine with gusto at the schadenfreude buffet is that the grieving faces on the other side of the partisan divide aren't those people, they're my people -- the middle-class neighbors of my Southern childhood, the kids I went to school with, my redneck uncles and cousins, my own mother and father.

The sagging chins and pot bellies, the crew cuts and blue hair, the bad make up and worse fashion sense -- these are all as familiar to me as the lines on my own face. I know these people too intimately, their pasts are too intertwined with mine, for me to look at them and see only the despised Other, even though I have no doubt that's how many, if not most, of them would look at me.

I also know that they have been lied to, with ferocious intensity and relentless dedication, by the conservative propaganda machine and its political masters. If we must have demons to hate, better to seek them among the con artists who have turned Rwandan-style hate speech into an industry profitable enough to rival the porn business.

I know it's customary at times such as these for victors to speak of reconciliation -- to remind the defeated, as President Obama never seems to get tired of repeating, that there are no red states, no blue states, just the United States of America. But that's not what I'm trying to do here. I have no particular interest in offering any olive branches. We've gone too far, traveling in opposite directions, to meet halfway now. One side must rule and the other must grind its teeth in rage. That being the case, I'd much rather it was them than us wearing down the enamel.

All that said, though, there is still something poignant, even tragic, about those faces of red America, something worthy of a eulogy. Their America -- Bill O'Reilly's "traditional America" -- is fading away. Whatever the future holds, it's not likely to look like them, or think like them, or live like them.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#126161 Nov 12, 2012
The Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
And you live in a country that elected and supports Obama. Get over it. You lost big time.
You want to talk about broke - every red state except Utah and Texas get more back from the Federal government than they pay in.
Or to put it in simpler terms for simpler minds, the blue states support the red states.
I thought Texas was on the dole also. When did that change?

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