BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Jacques Ottawa

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No you don't discriminate you just scare them to death by telling them that they are going to be "put back in chains" and that the women are going to have their birth control pills taken away from them.
As far as gays go half the people who voted for Obama are gay. Does that include you?
Latinos will be put back in chains? Hmmm
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, you are right, I voted for Romney! Guess this shows a 6th grader has more intelligence than a well educated, Marxist-Socialist.
Who said I was well-educated? Not me.
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And why wouldn't they? These are respected middle of the road media outlets that would jump on a story like this if it were true.
Wrong peanut breath. Everything from the Lame Stream Media has to be run by Obama's slaves in the White House and any negative comments are done under the threat of dismissal or something of greater importance.
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7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.
8. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.
9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable, as they are pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialect in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.
11. You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).
12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
13.. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).
15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.
God Save the Queen!
Er, Rogue, I AM preoccupied. Are you really senile? This is the 3rd time around for this thing about the Queen. Yawn.

“Facts trump speculation”

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>I bet Barry has one!!
I wouldn't be surprised. When he returns it to the young lady he will receive another reward.
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What's wrong with that? Jesus of Nazareth preached that ALL THE WORLD would be united in His kingdom. The Roman Catholic Church under its infallible Pope preaches the same.
ARE YOU SOME KIND OF HEATHEN?
Where is God's kingdom, how does one get there?
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Here's the truth about George Soros from that bastion of communism, Forbes magazine:
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George Soros
Net Worth $19 B As of September 2012
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At a Glance
Age: 82
Source of Wealth: hedge funds, self-made
Residence: Katonah, NY
Country of Citizenship: United States
Education: Bachelor of Arts / Science, London School of Economics
Marital Status: Divorced
Children: 5
Forbes Lists
#15 Forbes 400
#22 Forbes Billionaires
#12 in United States
Profile
Legendary investor George Soros retired in 2011 and turned his hedge fund into a family office, returning just under $1 billion in assets to outside investors. Soros also brought in a new investment officer to help oversee the remaining assets belonging to his family and his foundations. His fortune is down due to a reported drop in performance but also because our new estimate subtracts sums we believe he manages for his foundation. Born in Budapest, Soros survived the Nazi occupation of Hungary and went on to study at the London School of Economics before launching storied hedge fund firm Quantum Fund Management in 1969. Outspoken on world economic policies and an unapologetic proponent of European integration, Soros has recently called the design of the euro "very flawed" and described the situation as an "existential crisis" for Europe. Since 1979 Soros has given away $8.5 billion to human rights, education and public health groups; $6 billion has gone to international causes and estimated $400 million to fight poverty
Among his notable recent gifts:$160 million toward improving the lives of Europe's Roma minority and $100 million to overcome barriers faced by African American boys and men. Soros has also committed $150 million to combating corruption and promoting transparency in governments around the world. His efforts have resulted in the creation of organizations such as Revenue Watch, which works to ensure that citizens benefit from their country's natural resources. In August 2012, at his 82nd birthday party at his summer home in Southampton, Soros announced that he and his girlfriend, Tamiko Bolton, are engaged. Bolton is 42 years Soros' junior and will become the financier's third wife. The couple plans to marry in the summer of 2013.
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Now if you want to talk about people who are trying to take over the US with their money, let's start with the Koch Brothers, Adleson, and Karl Rove with his secret donors.
God is not mocked in that His law cannot be ignored without punishment (Rom. 2:6-9). Adam and Eve tried it to their sorrow (Gen. 2:15-17; 3:6, 24). Ananias and Sapphira tried it to their death (Acts 5:1-11).

God is not mocked in that He cannot be deceived (Heb. 4:12-13). Achan concealed his sin from others but God was not mocked (Josh. 7). Gehazi, Elisha's servant, tried to gain a personal profit by lying but God was not mocked (2 Kings 5:20-27). Jonah tried to run from Him but God would not be mocked.

The citizen is obliged in conscience NOT to follow the directives of civil authorities when they are 'contrary' to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or the teachings of the Gospel.

Refusing obedience to civil authorities, when their demands are contrary to those of an upright conscience, finds its justification in the distinction between serving God & serving the 'political community'. "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar''s, and to God the things that are God's (Mt.22:21).

"We MUST obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29)

When we citizens are under the oppression of a public authority which oversteps it's competence, we should still not refuse to give or do what is demanded of us by the common good.....but It is legitimate for us to defend our own rights & those of our fellow citizens against the 'abuse of authority' within the limits of the natural law & the Law of the Gospel.
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wojar wrote:
The birth certificate issue is long gone. A far more interesting controversy is whether the Dallas Mavericks cheerleaders' outfits are to skimpy. I think they're fine.
Not so fast there pilgrim.

OBAMA’S ALLEGED BIRTH MONTH MICROFILM REEL IS VERY DIFFERENT

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-birth...
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Nice pick, SHEEPLE!
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<quoted text>I wouldn't be surprised. When he returns it to the young lady he will receive another reward.
wouldn't surprise me, either! I bet as a kid, he received rewards for the pets he stole and returned.
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Wrong peanut breath. Everything from the Lame Stream Media has to be run by Obama's slaves in the White House and any negative comments are done under the threat of dismissal or something of greater importance.
Oh, I see. So it's all one big conspiracy and all the media outlets are in on it together, right? So Obama has a secretary of the media that controls what is shown and said at all times.

How does that work with the BBC and CBC and other foreign media outlets? Is it like a reciprocal thing, where the Prime Minister of Canada controls his country's media and the Queen controls Britain's media and the all agree not to do any US stories without checking with Obama first?

And the newspapers - they must be in on it to, right? But how come some of the papers get to endorse Romney - is that another clever Obama ruse? Very diabolical!
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It's pretty funny that Rogue Bumpkin can use his Christie Palin 2012 profile unironically.

Unintentionally hilarious.
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Where is God's kingdom, how does one get there?
I think it might be in Arkansas. Take the Interstate out of Little Rock and there is a marked exit, I believe.

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God is not mocked in that His law cannot be ignored without punishment (Rom. 2:6-9). Adam and Eve tried it to their sorrow (Gen. 2:15-17; 3:6, 24). Ananias and Sapphira tried it to their death (Acts 5:1-11).
God is not mocked in that He cannot be deceived (Heb. 4:12-13). Achan concealed his sin from others but God was not mocked (Josh. 7). Gehazi, Elisha's servant, tried to gain a personal profit by lying but God was not mocked (2 Kings 5:20-27). Jonah tried to run from Him but God would not be mocked.
The citizen is obliged in conscience NOT to follow the directives of civil authorities when they are 'contrary' to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or the teachings of the Gospel.
Refusing obedience to civil authorities, when their demands are contrary to those of an upright conscience, finds its justification in the distinction between serving God & serving the 'political community'. "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar''s, and to God the things that are God's (Mt.22:21).
"We MUST obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29)
When we citizens are under the oppression of a public authority which oversteps it's competence, we should still not refuse to give or do what is demanded of us by the common good.....but It is legitimate for us to defend our own rights & those of our fellow citizens against the 'abuse of authority' within the limits of the natural law & the Law of the Gospel.
You mean the same book that promotes genocide of non-believers including women and children ("Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and %$#." (I Samuel 15:2-3)

You mean the same book that encourages raping of women and dashing children into pieces ("Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished." (Isaiah 13:15-16)

You mean the same book that exalts men over women (“Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression (1 Timothy 2:11-14)."

You mean the same book that commands the destruction witches thereby invoking the slaughter of 100,000 women in Europe in the Middle Ages in the Great Witch Hunt ("thou shall not suffer a witch to live (Exodus 22:18)."

I think that I have read enough to form an opinion as to the "blessings" that the bible has bestowed upon mankind. James Madison, the father of our Constitution had it right when he wrote, "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

Mark Twain had it right when he wrote: "Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion—several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn’t straight."
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I think it might be in Arkansas. Take the Interstate out of Little Rock and there is a marked exit, I believe.
http://www.petition2congress.com/congress/
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American Lady wrote:
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God is not mocked in that His law cannot be ignored without punishment (Rom. 2:6-9). Adam and Eve tried it to their sorrow (Gen. 2:15-17; 3:6, 24). Ananias and Sapphira tried it to their death (Acts 5:1-11).
God is not mocked in that He cannot be deceived (Heb. 4:12-13). Achan concealed his sin from others but God was not mocked (Josh. 7). Gehazi, Elisha's servant, tried to gain a personal profit by lying but God was not mocked (2 Kings 5:20-27). Jonah tried to run from Him but God would not be mocked.
The citizen is obliged in conscience NOT to follow the directives of civil authorities when they are 'contrary' to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or the teachings of the Gospel.
Refusing obedience to civil authorities, when their demands are contrary to those of an upright conscience, finds its justification in the distinction between serving God & serving the 'political community'. "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar''s, and to God the things that are God's (Mt.22:21).
"We MUST obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29)
When we citizens are under the oppression of a public authority which oversteps it's competence, we should still not refuse to give or do what is demanded of us by the common good.....but It is legitimate for us to defend our own rights & those of our fellow citizens against the 'abuse of authority' within the limits of the natural law & the Law of the Gospel.
Ok, that's fine and dandy, but suppose that some people interpret God's word differently, or worship a different god, or even don't believe in God? Aren't they entitled to their own beliefs?

This is my beef with the religious right - instead of leaving others to make their own decisions you try to force people to follow your beliefs.

If I follow your line of thought, all Americans should be free to only follow the laws of our country that they believe works with their faith and their God. In fact, one could argue that your statement gives Muslims a right to terrorist activities because their God demands it.
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Not so fast there pilgrim.
OBAMA’S ALLEGED BIRTH MONTH MICROFILM REEL IS VERY DIFFERENT
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-birth...
Is it just my imagination or is your source for everything the same; this www.westernjournalism.com .

How exactly do you determine if THEY are telling the truth? Now that I know that Obama controls all media in our country, how does this site escape the despotic rule of Obama?

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Christie-Palin2012 wrote:
The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:
- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia
Did you know that ALL SOUTHERN REPUBLICANS in both House and Senate voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

And did you know that a larger percentage of NORTHERN REPUBLICANS (16%) in the House voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than NORTHERN DEMORACTS (2%)?

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Ok, that's fine and dandy, but suppose that some people interpret God's word differently, or worship a different god, or even don't believe in God? Aren't they entitled to their own beliefs?
This is my beef with the religious right - instead of leaving others to make their own decisions you try to force people to follow your beliefs.
If I follow your line of thought, all Americans should be free to only follow the laws of our country that they believe works with their faith and their God. In fact, one could argue that your statement gives Muslims a right to terrorist activities because their God demands it.
I agree.

What is "Christian morality"? Is it any different from Jewish morality or Buddhist morality? Is there a difference between Protestant morality and Catholic morality?

Is there a difference between the morality of one church down the street that advocates tolerance of gays and the other church across the street that advocates eternal damnation for gays?

Can morality transcend the religious sectarian's concepts of morality? Can the moral attributes of love, respect and caring for another human be of a universal concept not based on ones religion?

The difference between an atheist’s morality and a theist’s morality is that both can have the same morality except that the theist’s morality has additional burden of accepting without question the morality of the deity in the bible.

This same deity that brought destruction of enemies in the Old Testament including women and children. The same deity that caused the biblical flood that annihilated the human race except for Noah’s family. The same deity whose followers literally obeyed his commandment in Exodus 22:18 “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” by murdering 100,000 women whose only crimes were being women in the Middle Ages in Europe.

The bible also admonishes that women should be treated as inferiors to men. Case in point, 1 Timothy 2:11-14 “Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

The bible also states that a woman caused the “original sin” in Ecclesiastes 25:22 by declaring "Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die."

As such, the theist’s morality unlike the atheist’s morality has the additional burden of being fettered to a vengeful misogynic deity in the bible.

When the morality of an atheist is in conflict with the bible's command to treat women as inferiors to man and that only deity fearing christians are allowed into heaven and all others good and righteous people including children are consigned to hell then yes
atheists do have a problem with christian morality.
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You didn't respond to my previous post on this petition.

1) There is no mechanism in place in law for a national recount as voting is administered and controlled by the individual states (remember "states rights"?)

2) There is no evidence of any need to recount - most of the voter suppression was by the Republicans, in fact.

You lost. The America people have spoken. They didn't want Romney and his lies and said so in no uncertain terms.

According to Karl Rove, 332 electoral votes qualifies as a landslide. America WANTS women to be able to make their own choices, and wants blacks, gays and Latinos to be free of the Republican racism.

You lost. Big time. It is over. Done. Give it and form your own political party and try again in 2014 or 2016.

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