BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 20 comments on the Jan 8, 2009, Chicago Tribune story titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#123699 Nov 6, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Agitated this morning?
Not at all. Mrs LTR and I voted (25th and 26th voters in our precinct this AM) and came here to laugh at Birfoons. Rouge as provided more than ample entertainment.

And you? Pathetic and ignorant this morning?
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#123701 Nov 6, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Please remind the Class of the relevance of your repetitive and unscholarly posts to the matter of President Obama's eligibility. Thank you.
very simple, Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation.
As you know, our Constitution does not recognize a dual-citizenship status, never has.
Also as you know, the US government can not strip Obama of the citizenship his father passed on to him, unless he request such an action, through naturalization.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#123702 Nov 6, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Where in our sacred Constitution does it say that a POS is not eligible to be an American citizen?
It doesn't, you are a prime example, but we have no choice when you are born of a citizen father, or a citizen mother, if she hasn't an idea who the father is.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#123703 Nov 6, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
That is NOT true. Have you ever seen the actual original U.S. Constitution?
Was that Constitution ratified before the corrections?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#123704 Nov 6, 2012
Faux News is reporting that a single black man (wearing a jacket and hat with Black Panther logo) has been sighted OPENING THE DOOR for elderly white women entering a Philadelphia polling place!

Rouge Moron whines about how "almost all" of the black man in the video is campaigning too close to the polling place

LoserRepastingSpam is certain he can see a nightstick under the man's coat
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#123705 Nov 6, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
Faux News is reporting that a single black man (wearing a jacket and hat with Black Panther logo) has been sighted OPENING THE DOOR for elderly white women entering a Philadelphia polling place!
Rouge Moron whines about how "almost all" of the black man in the video is campaigning too close to the polling place
LoserRepastingSpam is certain he can see a nightstick under the man's coat
Your meltdown has already begun! BTW, the news mentioned a billyclub, not I. LMAO
American Lady

Danville, KY

#123706 Nov 6, 2012
A Democracy(majority)is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch.
A *Republic*(everyone)is a well-armed ^^sheep monitoring the results.

A "Black Panther" is NOT a "sheep"
He is a Wolf!

A "Patriot" is a well-armed sheep ...

^^Sheep
Different from a libTARD kind of ewe(^you)...

^ jocko, woo woo, that ilk ;~)
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#123707 Nov 6, 2012
Voting today for Romney!

Not out of "REVENGE" as Oblamo would have you vote

And I'm not changing my vote because Maher threatens "Black people are coming to get me" !

I'm voting for Romney because he is an American who cares about America and Americans!

Get out and vote!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#123709 Nov 6, 2012
I'm voting for the American!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123710 Nov 6, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Please cast your eyes upon the first sentence of the 14th amend, it plainly states only citizens are "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", which is the US Constitution.
Looks like WKA was a waste of time and money, plus it is contrary to what is written in the Constitution.
Re: "it plainly states only citizens are 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'..."

Here is the first sentence: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

That says that (1) people born in the USA who are (2) subject to the jurisdiction of the USA are (3) citizens of the USA. It does NOT say that only citizens are subject to the jurisdiction.

And the US Supreme Court has ruled that "subject to the jurisdiction" simply means being in the USA with the exception of the few people who are NOT subject to the jurisdiction, meaning foreign diplomats and their families. That is what the Wong Kim Ark case ruled six to two, and it is the law.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123711 Nov 6, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>very simple, Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation.
As you know, our Constitution does not recognize a dual-citizenship status, never has.
Also as you know, the US government can not strip Obama of the citizenship his father passed on to him, unless he request such an action, through naturalization.
Yes our constitution does not recognize dual citizenship status. That means that it ignores the fact that Obama was a dual citizen at birth and accepts only the fact that he was a US citizen at birth due to his place of birth. Oh, and Woodrow Wilson was also a dual citizen at birth, USA/Britain, due to the fact that his mother never relinquished her British citizen status despite becoming a US citizen by marriage.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#123712 Nov 6, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
Faux News is reporting that a single black man (wearing a jacket and hat with Black Panther logo) has been sighted OPENING THE DOOR for elderly white women entering a Philadelphia polling place!
Rouge Moron whines about how "almost all" of the black man in the video is campaigning too close to the polling place
LoserRepastingSpam is certain he can see a nightstick under the man's coat
So tell us DLMTR, why is this guy there to begin with? What's his reason for just standing around a voting station? Dressed in all black, wearing some stupid looking hat with some kind of medal on it does not make me think he's there to open doors for little old ladies!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#123713 Nov 6, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>So tell us DLMTR, why is this guy there to begin with? What's his reason for just standing around a voting station? Dressed in all black, wearing some stupid looking hat with some kind of medal on it does not make me think he's there to open doors for little old ladies!
I don't know. Why doesn't the reporter ask him instead of filming him from across the street and ascribing all manner of evil intentions to him?

Why don't you go find him and share your learned opinion on his hat?

By the way - I held the door open for three ladies (in addition to Mrs LTR) at the poll this AM. None seemed overly traumatized by the experience
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#123714 Nov 6, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Re: "it plainly states only citizens are 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'..."
Here is the first sentence: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
That says that (1) people born in the USA who are (2) subject to the jurisdiction of the USA are (3) citizens of the USA. It does NOT say that only citizens are subject to the jurisdiction.
And the US Supreme Court has ruled that "subject to the jurisdiction" simply means being in the USA with the exception of the few people who are NOT subject to the jurisdiction, meaning foreign diplomats and their families. That is what the Wong Kim Ark case ruled six to two, and it is the law.
who are subject to the jurisdiction, thereof? Only citizens.
Who are we the people opf the US? Only citizens.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#123715 Nov 6, 2012
Johannes wrote:
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...but what we do know is that the top ten states that comprise the 47% who pay no taxes all come from the red state south.
Soooo, many of them are upset that Obama Care guts Medicare!!! Here in Florida we have many retirees who are middle class or above and they are pissed. Not to mention the Neo Con Jews who are pissed at Obama for him thumbing his nose at Israel!!!
Florida will take it's 29 Electors and give them to Mitt!!!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#123716 Nov 6, 2012
Why is this allowed to occur? It is against the LAW!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/ju...
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123717 Nov 6, 2012
Noway Duh wrote:
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Lie!
He first said he saw him being born, then as a small child, then to not at all, then when was all said in done he promised to fing this alleged Hawaii BC, then confessed none could be found! Hmm? Then pops not another word from him just like you don't hear from Oblamos grandmother after she insist he was born in Kenya, or his sister who insisted he was born in a different Hawaiian Hospital, everyone who has ever disproved or disagreed with the Oblamo fantasy Hawaiian birth has gone off the gird! Wonder why?
The current governor of Hawaii, Abercrombie, never said that the Hawaii birth certificate could not be found. He was looking for something to show IN ADDITION to the birth certificate, and that he could not find. But he never said that the birth certificate could not be found. In fact, at least three government officials, two Republican one Democrat, stated that they saw Obama's birth certificate in the files in Hawaii, and that the facts on it show that Obama was born in Hawaii.

And there was a fourth official, whose name we do not know, the clerk who filled out the form that generated the short form birth certificate for Obama. That is done by the clerk looking into the files and copying the facts from the document in the files onto the computer form that generates the short form birth certificate. Therefore there had to be a birth certificate in the files for the clerk to copy from, and it had to say that Obama was born in Honolulu, as the short form birth certificate says.

Re Kenya. Obama's Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that Obama was born in Kenya. That was a deliberate misquotation by birther sites who simply cut off the tape before she was asked this question: "Whereabouts was he born?" After that question she said repeatedly that Obama was born in Hawaii, and she said in another interview----with the Hartford Courant newspaper---that the first that her family in Kenya had heard about Obama's birth was IN A LETTER FROM HAWAII.

Obama's sister was misquoted by UPI about the name of the hospital.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123718 Nov 6, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>who are subject to the jurisdiction, thereof? Only citizens.
Who are we the people opf the US? Only citizens.
It does not say that only citizens are "subject to the jurisdiction of."
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123719 Nov 6, 2012
Re: "Lie!
He first said he saw him being born, then as a small child, then to not at all, then when was all said in done he promised to fing this alleged Hawaii BC, then confessed none could be found! Hmm? Then pops not another word from him just like you don't hear from Oblamos grandmother after she insist he was born in Kenya, or his sister who insisted he was born in a different Hawaiian Hospital, everyone who has ever disproved or disagreed with the Oblamo fantasy Hawaiian birth has gone off the gird! Wonder why? "

Continuing:

Some things that show that Obama was born in Hawaii:

1. Obama's two official birth certificates, with the state seals on them.(The official physical copy of the long-form birth certificate was handed around in the White House press room, and one reporter said that she had felt the seal and took a photo of the document. http://turningthescale.net &#8203;/?p=541)

2. The confirmation of the facts on the two birth certificates (short form and long form)----that Obama was born in Hawaii---by THREE Republican officials in Hawaii and several Democrats, and by the public Index Data file. The acceptance of the written confirmation of the facts on Obama’s birth certificate by the conservative secretary of state of Arizona.

3. The notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 that were sent to the papers “Health Bureau Statistics” section by the DOH of Hawaii----and only the DOH could send those notices.(Also, the claim that the DOH could have been influenced by lying relatives turns out to be false because whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital, Hawaii insisted on a witness statement.)

4. The absence of a US travel document for Obama in 1961. Nor has there been an application for such a travel document found.

5. The teacher, who recalls being told of Obama's birth in Hawaii in Kapiolani Hospital in 1961 and writing home about it (about the birth to a woman named Stanley to her father, also named Stanley).

6. Obama's Kenyan grandmother said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was BORN IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

7. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and it was rare for women to travel late in pregnancy in those days. WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama’s father remained in Hawaii throughout 1961, which would have meant that she would have had to have made that long, expensive and risky trip without him---and that is hardly likely at all.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#123720 Nov 6, 2012
Johannes wrote:
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The Lifer doesn't understand anything....hiring has nothing to do with dems or repubs.
Generally, an A type manager will hire A type people, while a B type manager will hire C type people. C type people usually are not in a position to hire anybody.
As an example of an incompetent manager hiring an equally incompetent person, just look at GW Bush and his hiring of Michael Brown to head FEMA.
And can you tell us what Michael Brown did wrong? Both the governor of LA and the major of N.O. REFUSED his recommendation ..... until just 24 hours before Katrina hit!!!
Just look at all the flooded out school buses in N.O. or the fact that AMTRAK pulled out with it's passenger cars empty!!! N.O. had an evacuation plan but waited two days to long to activate it!!!
What is funny is that you Libtards bash people but can never say what exactly they did wrong! Oh, Brown resigned, not because he failed, but because he was becoming a drag of the Bush administration.

From Wiki: Shortly after his resignation the Associated Press obtained a videotape of Brown briefing Bush, Governor Blanco, Mayor Nagin and others in which he questioned the wisdom of the Mayor's use of the Louisiana Superdome as a "shelter of last resort" and questions the structural integrity of the Superdome during the briefing.

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