BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#123160 Nov 4, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously you are unable to address my comments with any sort of intelligent remarks.
I know of no Oblamo.
Either respond intelligently and we can discuss the issue or, it not, you can continue with your worthless rantings and fantasies.
Hard to adress someone who can't even figure out how to use simple English!

You wouldn't know intelligence because you have none!

Shall we recap your intelligent ranting?

Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
No need to display your lack of intelligence or try to divert the topic into something it wasn't.
American will not be out of this economic mess anytime soon.

"American" will not be out of this?

You must be a friggin' English professor!
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#123161 Nov 4, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
This one is not too bright.
Oh someone is a little bent! LOL!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123163 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so desperate as to post this crap? Puuuuullleeez!
Your sources are not law enforcement. They have it all on WND, just ggogle it or google Arpaio Investigation, etc. The entire thing is there. And you comments on the fonts is just more lies by your own desperate self. It is all right there sweety, they aren't reporting it just like Benghazi. ABC has given the death or our ambassador and the embassies burning all over the middle east exactly 32 seconds of reporting. You comments on the fonts is just laughable. No need to debate with you, if obama stood in front of you and admitted he did all of this you still wouldn't believe it. You will believe it though in a few hours as AMERICANS all over the country totally swamp obama out of office in a landslide. COUNT ON IT!
Yours, the MSM and obama's attempts to lie and coverup everything about this guy is going down in flames honey. He is out. It is just a matter of a few hours now. Once he is out the stuff that comes out about him will be enormous.
obama is a brit by law, birth.
obama is an illegal alien in this country
obama forged his birth certificate, selective service card, and SS# is stolen as E-verify proves as well
his passports haven't been seen by anyone
hundreds of lawsuits against him and he uses executive privilege to deny everything...
claims his "privacy"is too important for Americans to see what he say sis true...
Benghazi is the same crap...
etc.
THE POINT IS AMERICANS DON'T LIKE BEING LIED TO AND ANYONE THAT DOES ALL OF THE THINGS OBAMA HAS DONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING.
After he is out, we'll see how he fares. I think he will be in some major trouble. But he might give himself a pardon in his last few minutes in office.
LMAO!!! obama is out in T-minus 38 hours.
The above is an excellent example of why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review all call birthers crazy.

There isn't a shred of evidence that Obama was born in any other country than the USA or in any other place than in Honolulu Hawaii. And only birther experts, mainly WND's "experts" have ever claimed that Obama's birth certificate has anything wrong with it. And in fact the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the facts on Obama's birth certificate. Indeed, the most recent confirmation by Hawaii was accepted as proof of birth in Hawaii by the conservative secretary of state of Arizona, meaning that he does not believe Sheriff Joe and the birther "experts."
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123164 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
LAW ENFORCEMENT FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS OF OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE: it is all right here...
http://www.wnd.com/...
...it is ALL right here....hundreds of tests, documents, testimony, facts, film, video, closeups, details,...everything. It is an incredible amount of evidence, and shows exactly how law enforcement investigates. With 10 minutes if not less you will know the facts and easily be able to see for yourself how crude obama's attempts were to forge all of his documents which law enforcement has.
Don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.
For Obama to have been born outside of the USA, Obama’s parents would have had to have:

(1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya); (And the government of Kenya now says that it has investigated, and that it did not happen.)

(2) got the child back to the USA without either a visa or his being entered on his mother’s US passport (which would have had to have happened in Kenya or any other country, and would be easy to find) and slipped the child past the US immigration officials who check documents or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed. And since there were few direct flights from foreign countries to Hawaii, those records would be in the INS files in New York or some other city---and they have not been lost;

(3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one);

(4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital;

(5) or, if not (4) then got three Republican officials and several Democrat officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama’s files verified that he was born in Hawaii. And the same for the public Index Data file and the same in 1961 for the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH (and only the DOH could send those notices) or in 2008 or before forged all of the several microfilm versions of those notices and inserted them into the separate files for the two newspapers in the exact right order with all the other stories---and in 2008 Obama was only a junior senator from Ohio.

(6) gotten the teacher who claims to have been told about “Stanley had a baby” to her father, named Stanley, and writing home about it to make up that lie---and in fact found a teacher with a father named Stanley to do it.

ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123166 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
LAW ENFORCEMENT FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS OF OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE: it is all right here...
http://www.wnd.com/...
...it is ALL right here....hundreds of tests, documents, testimony, facts, film, video, closeups, details,...everything. It is an incredible amount of evidence, and shows exactly how law enforcement investigates. With 10 minutes if not less you will know the facts and easily be able to see for yourself how crude obama's attempts were to forge all of his documents which law enforcement has.
Don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_cit...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...

"Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."--The Wall Street Journal ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_cit... )

http://4peoplewhothink.wordpress.com/2012/04/...
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123168 Nov 4, 2012
The citation for the Wall Street Journal should read : http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297... ++

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#123170 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
LAW ENFORCEMENT FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS OF OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE: it is all right here...
http://www.wnd.com/...
...it is ALL right here....hundreds of tests, documents, testimony, facts, film, video, closeups, details,...everything. It is an incredible amount of evidence, and shows exactly how law enforcement investigates. With 10 minutes if not less you will know the facts and easily be able to see for yourself how crude obama's attempts were to forge all of his documents which law enforcement has.
Don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IN LIGHT OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT ACTION UPHOLDING OBAMA'S ELIGIBILITY.
You are better off watching your fantasy real estate infomercials to double your $2.7 million.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#123172 Nov 4, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is YOUR link? Here is mine!!!
"Twenty-three people are killed--6 Lebanese employees, 15 Lebanese civilians and others, and two Americans."
http://middleeast.about.com/od/thisdayinmidea ...
Again, YOU make up things and do not provide links. No ambassador was kill and there was no breach of the embassy!!
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah yes, Rogue Moron cites the higly revered " about.com ."
Rogue Moron, you do realize that the internet was not exactly up and running in 1984 like we know and enjoy it today, right? You may have to go to a library to find what you're looking for. I realize that scares you because you may learn something while you are there, but I have confidence you can do it. At the very least you can learn how to use google's news archive.
Here are some real simple questions to evaluate how much you value human life or how awful a person you are:
1) What is greater, 24 human lives, of whatever nationality, or four human lives?
2) For 24 for people to die in a terrorist attack on an embassy, how is the embassy not "breached?"
3) What is more important, criticizing Obama or protecting the long dead Ronald "the actor" Reagan?
LOL at Rogue Moron thinking you can link to newspaper articles from 1984.
You, like a typical Libtard, can never admit when you are wrong. 1) The value tween a President and a garbage collector are not the same. As human beings they are the same but the impact to our country are not the same. have x-number of people die effected Y-number of loved ones but to America, the Americans that died are more important.
2)It was not beached as no enemy combatants entered the compound!
You are the one trying to criticize Reagan in a vain attempt to elevate Obama. You do not elevate anyone by tearing down anyone and you Libtards will never learn that.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#123174 Nov 4, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"You have dodged this question in the past:
"Is it YOUR contention that an alien may not sue a United States citizen in a U.S. federal court?
"Simple question asking for a YES or a NO."
====
Justice Dale wrote:
yes an alien can sue, still doesn't change the fact, they are not "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", if they were they would be citizens.
THANK YOU.
Your correct answer settles the question.
A federal court cannot proceed with any matter unless it (the United States of America) has jurisdiction over BOTH (ALL) of the parties.
Jurisdiction is the FIRST requirement to be pleaded in any proceeding and it may not waived or conferred by consent.
This has been the case for the past 800-years of this great nation's grand tradition of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#123175 Nov 4, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
No problem!
You previously stated that once the repubs got control of the House they would issue numerous subpoenas. That didn't happen.
You also said that once that was done, Obama would be declared an invalid President and any and everything he ever did as President would be undone. That didn't happen either.
You also were promoting several court cases brought by the nut case dentist....those failed as well.
Shall I go on????
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I underestimated the Country Clubbers like Speaker Bonehead. With any luck he will not be Speaker in 2013.
Yes, I do support Dr. Orly Taitz and she has been very effective at keeping the issue alive.
Now, how long did it take you Libtards to give up on Pres. Gore?!? Or Pres. Kerry?!?
This is the Fake Grand Birther. Please note I corrected myself. Conservatives can do that but Libtards can never. And that is what makes us better than you.
Just look at Bill Clinton. We he saw his policies were not working, he cancelled Hillary Card and signed four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets into law. He also signed seven of the ten points with the contract with America into law along with the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997. A that is why Bill Clinton won a second term in office and Obama will be a one-termer!!!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123176 Nov 4, 2012
Vote Romney for Victory wrote:
<quoted text>
That you have NO FACTS!
What you mean is that Obama made up fraudulent evidence to support his illegal pResidency.
Obama has a fraudulent birth certificate, SSN that was not issued to him, and a fraudulent Selective Service card.
Only 3 more days until Obama gets his well deserved pink slip into obscurity, and an asterisk next to his name to denote that he was fraudulent pResident.
History will remember Obama as the worst and only affirmative action pResident in US History.
Have you convinced anybody that you are not a LIAR yet?
http://4peoplewhothink.wordpress.com/2012/04/...

Obama has shown his birth certificate twice—short-form and long-form—and the officials in Hawaii of both political parties have confirmed the facts on it, and they are further confirmed by the Index Data (a public file showing the birth certificates that are on file that shows one for Obama under 1961) and by the birth notices in the Health Bureau Statistics section of two newspapers in Hawaii.

The Connecticut SS number was caused by a data entry error. SS numbers were generated by the zip code of the applicant’s address. Obama’s address in Hawaii was in zip code 96814, and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814.

Millions of people have multiple social security numbers caused mainly by data entry errors:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38678753/How_Many_Soci...

http://www.securityworldnews.com/2010/08/12/2...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-200137...

The selective service card was forged by the guy who posted it online. And, by the way, the guy who posted it NEVER even claimed that he got it from Obama. He claimed to have gotten it from the Selective Services Administration back during the Bush Administration.
Supreme Justice

Canyon Country, CA

#123178 Nov 4, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IN LIGHT OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT ACTION UPHOLDING OBAMA'S ELIGIBILITY.
You are better off watching your fantasy real estate infomercials to double your $2.7 million.
PROVE THAT ONE. THAT NEVER HAPPENED! Nice try!!

LMAO!!!

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#123179 Nov 4, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
absolutely not, according to the US Constitution, citizens are the only persons subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. You, nor the USSC can prove me wrong.
You have already admitted to the contrary (although you may not be well-educated enough to know what you admitted).
#122,834
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Is it YOUR contention that an alien may not sue a United States citizen in a U.S. federal court?
"Simple question asking for a YES or a NO."
====
Justice Dale wrote:
yes an alien can sue

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#123180 Nov 4, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
Unemployment jumps to record high 7.9%
REALLY?
The class thought the post-WWII "record" was held by Ronald Reagan.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#123181 Nov 4, 2012
LAW ENFORCEMENT FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS OF OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE: it is all right here...
http://www.wnd.com/ ...

...it is ALL right here....hundreds of tests, documents, testimony, facts, film, video, closeups, details,...everything. It is an incredible amount of evidence, and shows exactly how law enforcement investigates. With 10 minutes if not less you will know the facts and easily be able to see for yourself how crude obama's attempts were to forge all of his documents which law enforcement has.

Don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123182 Nov 4, 2012
Vote Romney for Victory wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a bald-faced LIE!
You must be the only one who can see it.
It's NOT THERE!
Have you found a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate with a raised embossed State seal issued by Hawaii DOH that everyone can see the seal on???
You won't, because there isn't one.
Your delusional fantasy is not proof.
The embossed seal simply did not come out in a PDF scan.

How do we know that Obama's birth certificate exists?

First, there is the short-form birth certificate. It is generated by a clerk in the Hawaii DOH reading the information in the files and entering it in a computer form. For that to happen there has to be a document in the files. In Obama's case that happened back in 2007 (though it was not published until 2008) when Obama was only a candidate for president---long before he became the leading candidate, much less president. The clerk would have had to have been lying in 2007, and the confirmations by the Republican officials in 2008 would have to be lies as well.

Also, we know that Obama had a birth certificate in 1961 from the notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in that year.

We know that only the DOH could send those notices in three ways. First because the representative of the newspapers said so, second because the representative of the DOH said so and third because the section of the newspaper was called "Health Bureau Statistic"---which obviously meant that the facts in it came from the Health Bureau, the DOH. In 1961, the DOH was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children born outside of Hawaii, and it only sent birth notices to the papers for children born in Hawaii.

So we know that Obama had a Hawaii birth certificate.

Your claim is that although this certificate exists and although the officials in Hawaii stated that they sent both the short form and the long form version of it to him, and despite a reporter having said that she felt the seal on it--that both the officials in Hawaii and the reporter are lying because the embossed seal does not show up on a PDF scan.

It should be obvious why an embossed seal does not show up on a scan. The light of the scanner is flat from the front and there is no light from the side that highlights the raised parts and lowered parts in the embossed seal. You claim that this is not so, that the scan would show it. Well, back up your claim with some evidence. Show a PDF scan of a Hawaii long form birth certificate that shows the raised seal.

Recently the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm other facts on his published birth certificate. Hawaii did, and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona accepted it as evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.

Only birther "experts"---who have not proven that they are really experts, and who certainly have not shown that they are fair and impartial---have claimed that there is something wrong with Obama's birth certificate. That is two reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, the National Review and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona do not believe them.

Obama's mother lived in Hawaii. Obama's father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961---and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the "born in Kenya" claim and found that it was false.

Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet you and other birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#123183 Nov 4, 2012
Vote Romney for Victory wrote:
Only 3 more days until Obama gets his well deserved pink slip into obscurity, and an asterisk next to his name to denote that he was fraudulent pResident.
DARE TO TELL the Class by how many votes Willard will win the election?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123184 Nov 4, 2012
For Obama to have been born outside of the USA, Obama’s parents would have had to have:

(1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya); (And the government of Kenya now says that it has investigated, and that it never happened.)

(2) got the child back to the USA without either a US visa or his being entered on his mother’s US passport (which would have had to have happened in Kenya or any other country, and would be easy to find) and slipped the child past the US immigration officials who check documents or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed. And since there were few direct flights from foreign countries to Hawaii, those records would be in the INS files in New York or some other city---and they have not been lost;

(3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one);

(4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital;

(5) or, if not (4) then got three Republican officials and several Democrat officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama’s files verified that he was born in Hawaii. And the same for the public Index Data file and the same in 1961 for the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH (and only the DOH could send those notices) or in 2008 or before forged all of the several microfilm versions of those notices and inserted them into the separate files for the two newspapers in the exact right order with all the other stories---and in 2008 Obama was only a junior senator from Ohio.

(6) gotten the teacher who claims to have been told about “Stanley had a baby” to her father, named Stanley, and writing home about it to make up that lie---and in fact found a teacher with a father named Stanley to do it.

ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#123185 Nov 4, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Wild Women Wild for Willard are doing whatever we can for our Willard."
====
Vote Romney for Victory wrote:
Is there a website attached to your fantasy?
No need for a website. Ours is not a fantasy as is the gaga's with real estate infomercials. We do it with boots on the ground.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#123186 Nov 4, 2012
What a hoot!

Union workers charged with stealing Romney signs in Ohio

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONNOVEMBER 3, 2012BY: DAVE GIBSON
http://www.examiner.com/article/union-workers...

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