BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123149 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
lol...I have never heard of such crap as this. ARPAIO and ZULLO and all of the forensic fraud experts have so PROVED beyond any doubt whatsover that his "birth certificate" that you refer to is a fraud it is beyond any question. They are law enforcement officers with a combined over 100 years of doing exactly what this is all about. Other countries concur with them.
Your little story here does nothing to refute any of that. Besides, you have no clue whatsoever about what you are talking about here. Typical.
There are so many things wrong with your facts here that have been 100% totally disproved that it is not necessary to do it all over again. The nly thing I will say is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have over 20 different fonts on one typewriter for an "E", and all of the rest of the letters...many of them didn't even exist in 1961. Also over 45 different layers of imported scans withing one document? Impossible! It is all on WND if you look, all the forensics, law enforcement prrof. Or just google the 2 hours video by Arpaio/Zullo that was live-streamed on TV. It is all right there for you to see. After 10 minutes you will know exactly why obama is a fraud and a forger. There really is no way around this unless you have your head in the sand about a mile deep.
You are an OBOT...with two days left.
Re Arpaio/Zullo:

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

and

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...

Oh, and:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780...

Re "other countries."---which means that there are people who hate Obama in other countries too. And, all that those other countries have done is quote the same old birther "experts."

Re: "IMPOSSIBLE to have over 20 different fonts on one typewriter for an "E"

That is what you say, but remember pdf is attempting to recognize the fonts of typing that was faint and on security paper, and it is not a photographic technique.

Why didn't WND quote this real expert?

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: "All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document." When WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WND simply did not publish it.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123150 Nov 4, 2012
Continuing:

For Obama to have been born outside of the USA, Obama’s parents would have had to have:

(1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya); (And the government of Kenya now says that it has investigated, and that it never happened.)

(2) got the child back to the USA without either a US visa or his being entered on his mother’s US passport (which would have had to have happened in Kenya or any other country, and would be easy to find) and slipped the child past the US immigration officials who check documents or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed. And since there were few direct flights from foreign countries to Hawaii, those records would be in the INS files in New York or some other city---and they have not been lost;

(3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one);

(4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital;

(5) or, if not (4) then got three Republican officials and several Democrat officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama’s files verified that he was born in Hawaii. And the same for the public Index Data file and the same in 1961 for the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH (and only the DOH could send those notices) or in 2008 or before forged all of the several microfilm versions of those notices and inserted them into the separate files for the two newspapers in the exact right order with all the other stories---and in 2008 Obama was only a junior senator from Ohio.

(6) gotten the teacher who claims to have been told about “Stanley had a baby” to her father, named Stanley, and writing home about it to make up that lie---and in fact found a teacher with a father named Stanley to do it.

ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123151 Nov 4, 2012
Noway Duh wrote:
<quoted text>
"American will not be out of this economic mess anytime soon."
LOL
Which "American" is that, we all know you don't mean Oblamo, he's an Indonesian citizen with a Connecticut SS#!
The mess you speak of with your, oh so "intelligent" loony left, zealot, obot brain, is the one he put all of us AMERICANS in!
Obama is not an Indonesian citizen as a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy in Washington will confirm.

And millions of people have errors in their SS numbers, caused mainly by data entry errors by SS Administration clerks.

The Connecticut SS number was caused by a data entry error. SS numbers were generated by the zip code of the applicant’s address. Obama’s address in Hawaii was in zip code 96814, and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814.

Citations for the fact that millions of people have errors in their SS numbers and multiple social security numbers caused mainly by data entry errors:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38678753/How_Many_Soci...

http://www.securityworldnews.com/2010/08/12/2...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-200137...
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123152 Nov 4, 2012
Noway Duh wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't wait until he loses and all you brainwashed zealot obot loony lefties have a mental breakdown and in your misery search for some sort of location to pray at but seeking to place a monument at the place of his birth you realize there isn't such a sight on US soil! Lol!
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52083178/Kapiolani-...
goldengirl

West Jordan, UT

#123153 Nov 4, 2012
Am soooooo excited that obummer will get his walking papers come Tuesday!!!!!!!!!! Big time celebration ahead.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#123154 Nov 4, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Re Arpaio/Zullo:
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...
and
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...
Oh, and:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780...
Re "other countries."---which means that there are people who hate Obama in other countries too. And, all that those other countries have done is quote the same old birther "experts."
Re: "IMPOSSIBLE to have over 20 different fonts on one typewriter for an "E"
That is what you say, but remember pdf is attempting to recognize the fonts of typing that was faint and on security paper, and it is not a photographic technique.
Why didn't WND quote this real expert?
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: "All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document." When WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WND simply did not publish it.
You are so desperate as to post this crap? Puuuuullleeez!

Your sources are not law enforcement. They have it all on WND, just ggogle it or google Arpaio Investigation, etc. The entire thing is there. And you comments on the fonts is just more lies by your own desperate self. It is all right there sweety, they aren't reporting it just like Benghazi. ABC has given the death or our ambassador and the embassies burning all over the middle east exactly 32 seconds of reporting. You comments on the fonts is just laughable. No need to debate with you, if obama stood in front of you and admitted he did all of this you still wouldn't believe it. You will believe it though in a few hours as AMERICANS all over the country totally swamp obama out of office in a landslide. COUNT ON IT!

Yours, the MSM and obama's attempts to lie and coverup everything about this guy is going down in flames honey. He is out. It is just a matter of a few hours now. Once he is out the stuff that comes out about him will be enormous.

obama is a brit by law, birth.
obama is an illegal alien in this country
obama forged his birth certificate, selective service card, and SS# is stolen as E-verify proves as well
his passports haven't been seen by anyone
hundreds of lawsuits against him and he uses executive privilege to deny everything...
claims his "privacy"is too important for Americans to see what he say sis true...
Benghazi is the same crap...

etc.

THE POINT IS AMERICANS DON'T LIKE BEING LIED TO AND ANYONE THAT DOES ALL OF THE THINGS OBAMA HAS DONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING.

After he is out, we'll see how he fares. I think he will be in some major trouble. But he might give himself a pardon in his last few minutes in office.

LMAO!!! obama is out in T-minus 38 hours.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#123155 Nov 4, 2012
Noway Duh wrote:
<quoted text>
"American will not be out of this economic mess anytime soon."
LOL
Which "American" is that, we all know you don't mean Oblamo, he's an Indonesian citizen with a Connecticut SS#!
The mess you speak of with your, oh so "intelligent" loony left, zealot, obot brain, is the one he put all of us AMERICANS in!
Obviously you are unable to address my comments with any sort of intelligent remarks.

I know of no Oblamo.

Either respond intelligently and we can discuss the issue or, it not, you can continue with your worthless rantings and fantasies.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#123156 Nov 4, 2012
LAW ENFORCEMENT FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS OF OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE: it is all right here...
http://www.wnd.com/...

...it is ALL right here....hundreds of tests, documents, testimony, facts, film, video, closeups, details,...everything. It is an incredible amount of evidence, and shows exactly how law enforcement investigates. With 10 minutes if not less you will know the facts and easily be able to see for yourself how crude obama's attempts were to forge all of his documents which law enforcement has.

Don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.
czle77

Wakefield, UK

#123157 Nov 4, 2012
Wow I cant believe there are still birthers around , way to go guys !! lol
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#123158 Nov 4, 2012
great 7 min video on everything this election is about...
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/explosive-video-in...
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#123159 Nov 4, 2012
Noway Duh wrote:
Oblamo says 4 more years, we all say 3 more days!
This one is not too bright.
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#123160 Nov 4, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously you are unable to address my comments with any sort of intelligent remarks.
I know of no Oblamo.
Either respond intelligently and we can discuss the issue or, it not, you can continue with your worthless rantings and fantasies.
Hard to adress someone who can't even figure out how to use simple English!

You wouldn't know intelligence because you have none!

Shall we recap your intelligent ranting?

Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
No need to display your lack of intelligence or try to divert the topic into something it wasn't.
American will not be out of this economic mess anytime soon.

"American" will not be out of this?

You must be a friggin' English professor!
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#123161 Nov 4, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
This one is not too bright.
Oh someone is a little bent! LOL!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123163 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so desperate as to post this crap? Puuuuullleeez!
Your sources are not law enforcement. They have it all on WND, just ggogle it or google Arpaio Investigation, etc. The entire thing is there. And you comments on the fonts is just more lies by your own desperate self. It is all right there sweety, they aren't reporting it just like Benghazi. ABC has given the death or our ambassador and the embassies burning all over the middle east exactly 32 seconds of reporting. You comments on the fonts is just laughable. No need to debate with you, if obama stood in front of you and admitted he did all of this you still wouldn't believe it. You will believe it though in a few hours as AMERICANS all over the country totally swamp obama out of office in a landslide. COUNT ON IT!
Yours, the MSM and obama's attempts to lie and coverup everything about this guy is going down in flames honey. He is out. It is just a matter of a few hours now. Once he is out the stuff that comes out about him will be enormous.
obama is a brit by law, birth.
obama is an illegal alien in this country
obama forged his birth certificate, selective service card, and SS# is stolen as E-verify proves as well
his passports haven't been seen by anyone
hundreds of lawsuits against him and he uses executive privilege to deny everything...
claims his "privacy"is too important for Americans to see what he say sis true...
Benghazi is the same crap...
etc.
THE POINT IS AMERICANS DON'T LIKE BEING LIED TO AND ANYONE THAT DOES ALL OF THE THINGS OBAMA HAS DONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING.
After he is out, we'll see how he fares. I think he will be in some major trouble. But he might give himself a pardon in his last few minutes in office.
LMAO!!! obama is out in T-minus 38 hours.
The above is an excellent example of why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review all call birthers crazy.

There isn't a shred of evidence that Obama was born in any other country than the USA or in any other place than in Honolulu Hawaii. And only birther experts, mainly WND's "experts" have ever claimed that Obama's birth certificate has anything wrong with it. And in fact the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the facts on Obama's birth certificate. Indeed, the most recent confirmation by Hawaii was accepted as proof of birth in Hawaii by the conservative secretary of state of Arizona, meaning that he does not believe Sheriff Joe and the birther "experts."
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123164 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
LAW ENFORCEMENT FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS OF OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE: it is all right here...
http://www.wnd.com/...
...it is ALL right here....hundreds of tests, documents, testimony, facts, film, video, closeups, details,...everything. It is an incredible amount of evidence, and shows exactly how law enforcement investigates. With 10 minutes if not less you will know the facts and easily be able to see for yourself how crude obama's attempts were to forge all of his documents which law enforcement has.
Don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.
For Obama to have been born outside of the USA, Obama’s parents would have had to have:

(1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya); (And the government of Kenya now says that it has investigated, and that it did not happen.)

(2) got the child back to the USA without either a visa or his being entered on his mother’s US passport (which would have had to have happened in Kenya or any other country, and would be easy to find) and slipped the child past the US immigration officials who check documents or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed. And since there were few direct flights from foreign countries to Hawaii, those records would be in the INS files in New York or some other city---and they have not been lost;

(3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one);

(4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital;

(5) or, if not (4) then got three Republican officials and several Democrat officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama’s files verified that he was born in Hawaii. And the same for the public Index Data file and the same in 1961 for the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH (and only the DOH could send those notices) or in 2008 or before forged all of the several microfilm versions of those notices and inserted them into the separate files for the two newspapers in the exact right order with all the other stories---and in 2008 Obama was only a junior senator from Ohio.

(6) gotten the teacher who claims to have been told about “Stanley had a baby” to her father, named Stanley, and writing home about it to make up that lie---and in fact found a teacher with a father named Stanley to do it.

ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123166 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
LAW ENFORCEMENT FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS OF OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE: it is all right here...
http://www.wnd.com/...
...it is ALL right here....hundreds of tests, documents, testimony, facts, film, video, closeups, details,...everything. It is an incredible amount of evidence, and shows exactly how law enforcement investigates. With 10 minutes if not less you will know the facts and easily be able to see for yourself how crude obama's attempts were to forge all of his documents which law enforcement has.
Don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_cit...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...

"Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."--The Wall Street Journal ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_cit... )

http://4peoplewhothink.wordpress.com/2012/04/...
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#123168 Nov 4, 2012
The citation for the Wall Street Journal should read : http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297... ++

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#123170 Nov 4, 2012
Guru wrote:
LAW ENFORCEMENT FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS OF OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE: it is all right here...
http://www.wnd.com/...
...it is ALL right here....hundreds of tests, documents, testimony, facts, film, video, closeups, details,...everything. It is an incredible amount of evidence, and shows exactly how law enforcement investigates. With 10 minutes if not less you will know the facts and easily be able to see for yourself how crude obama's attempts were to forge all of his documents which law enforcement has.
Don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IN LIGHT OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT ACTION UPHOLDING OBAMA'S ELIGIBILITY.
You are better off watching your fantasy real estate infomercials to double your $2.7 million.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#123172 Nov 4, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is YOUR link? Here is mine!!!
"Twenty-three people are killed--6 Lebanese employees, 15 Lebanese civilians and others, and two Americans."
http://middleeast.about.com/od/thisdayinmidea ...
Again, YOU make up things and do not provide links. No ambassador was kill and there was no breach of the embassy!!
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah yes, Rogue Moron cites the higly revered " about.com ."
Rogue Moron, you do realize that the internet was not exactly up and running in 1984 like we know and enjoy it today, right? You may have to go to a library to find what you're looking for. I realize that scares you because you may learn something while you are there, but I have confidence you can do it. At the very least you can learn how to use google's news archive.
Here are some real simple questions to evaluate how much you value human life or how awful a person you are:
1) What is greater, 24 human lives, of whatever nationality, or four human lives?
2) For 24 for people to die in a terrorist attack on an embassy, how is the embassy not "breached?"
3) What is more important, criticizing Obama or protecting the long dead Ronald "the actor" Reagan?
LOL at Rogue Moron thinking you can link to newspaper articles from 1984.
You, like a typical Libtard, can never admit when you are wrong. 1) The value tween a President and a garbage collector are not the same. As human beings they are the same but the impact to our country are not the same. have x-number of people die effected Y-number of loved ones but to America, the Americans that died are more important.
2)It was not beached as no enemy combatants entered the compound!
You are the one trying to criticize Reagan in a vain attempt to elevate Obama. You do not elevate anyone by tearing down anyone and you Libtards will never learn that.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#123174 Nov 4, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"You have dodged this question in the past:
"Is it YOUR contention that an alien may not sue a United States citizen in a U.S. federal court?
"Simple question asking for a YES or a NO."
====
Justice Dale wrote:
yes an alien can sue, still doesn't change the fact, they are not "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", if they were they would be citizens.
THANK YOU.
Your correct answer settles the question.
A federal court cannot proceed with any matter unless it (the United States of America) has jurisdiction over BOTH (ALL) of the parties.
Jurisdiction is the FIRST requirement to be pleaded in any proceeding and it may not waived or conferred by consent.
This has been the case for the past 800-years of this great nation's grand tradition of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

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