BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#122884 Nov 3, 2012
Guru wrote:
obama's legacy...
Drivers Waiting 6 Hours For Gas in NYC...
Tempers Rise in Wake of Storm...
'Finding bodies left and right'...
Restaurant, hotel prices skyrocket...
CHUCK SCHUMER CONFRONTED:'We Are Gonna Die!'
CRAIGSLIST:$15 a gallon...
Utility workers pelted with eggs...
Misery...
'We have nothing'...
Residents Furious RED CROSS Offering Cookies & Hot Chocolate, Not Blankets Or Clothes...
Jet Fuel Supply Fast Becoming Concern At Airports...
Staten Islanders Plead for Help:'We Need Food'...
'Please don't leave us'...
VIDEO: Stranded New Yorkers Defecating in Apartment Buildings...
DIRE...
NJ counties enact 70s style gas rationing... Developing...
also, fraudulent documents, forgery, treason...
Benghazi- letting our guys die without even trying to help them when they were all begging for help...
doing practically nothing in 4 years in office but play golf and campaigning...
state of the union speech was nothing but a campaign speech
hardly gave any press conferences in 4yars, none in the last year...
4 years of campaigning...
upset and ruined all of our trust by our allies...
bowed to kings from other countries...and our enemies...
called people names constantly while in office this year...
refused to meet with Congress the entire 4 years on anything...
re-decorated the Oval Office to look like a cheap sheiks' crib for a harem of belly dancers...
spent hundreds of millions of vacations, buses, trips...
spent a $BILIONS on bankrupt projects like green energy and solar...
bailed out the banksters to the tune of $Trillions that are now for you to pay the bill for their gift that you never asked for...
failed to protect homeowners at all with the bailouts...
gave $TRILLIONS to the banks for foreclosures which they caused, then refused to make the banks lend it back out. Banks enriched themselves and bought up everything they crashed, and gave themselves record bonuses with our money, that WE have to now pay for for generations...
reduced our military dramatically...
overturned whole countries in the middle east that are now on fire...
got our Ambassador killed and our troops and did not care when they got in trouble and let them die....
then lied about it for weeks...a massive coverup that even if he is re-elected will take him out for sure...
angered our military, who might turn on him now...
Fast & Furious coverup exactly mirrors Benghazi and his dozens of lawsuits to keep the public from finding out what is on his records...
has put our military men in jail for suing to get access to his records...
went to Vegas while our guys died...
went to Vegas with the entire eastern coast is decimated and people are starving and dying of cold...
could not pass his budget, was stricken down 99-0 by his own party...
caused the most massive loss of democrat seats in the House in 78 years in 2010 as people were fed up with him for doing nothing for half his term...this will continue and get worse for him in 3 short days when he will be thrown out of office in a landslide...
the list goes on and on...
Now obama wants your vote to keep from getting thrown out of office in 3 days. He thinks he is entitled to remain in office for another 4 years, and maybe forever rather than to bear the shame of his horrific record in office.
Who in here is ready to VOTE?
I am!
WELL SAID! And yes we're all ready to vote!
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#122886 Nov 3, 2012
Guru wrote:
700 reasons to defeat Obama
The hour is late.
The most important presidential election in American history is right around the corner.
I only have 700 words to make my case for defeating Barack Obama, so I will dispense with adjectives and verbs and just provide a partial list of things to remember before you go to the polls – or to motivate you to go to the polls and vote for Mitt Romney.
Benghazi. Egypt. Syria. Libya. Iran. Bowing to Saudi king. The apology tour. The Muslim Brotherhood. Illegal foreign contributions to his campaign. Fast and Furious.
Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright. Van Jones. Anita Dunn. Czars. Abortion mandate. Obamacare. Debt. Joblessness. Audits of political enemies. His anti-business and anti-capitalist policies. His assaults on civil liberties and the Constitution. His faith in Big Government and statism. His stimulus policies. His top-down interference in the marketplace. His track record of diverting taxpayer money to his donors. His job-killing regulations. His executive orders. His plans for more forced redistribution of wealth both domestically and internationally. 3.6 million more on disability insurance. 110 million on welfare.
His lies. His character. His secrecy. His lawlessness. His hyper-partisanship. His divisiveness. His misguided priorities.
Hate-crimes laws. His support for same-sex marriage. His promotion of abortion on demand – including for reasons of sex selection. His support of infanticide.
Massive cuts in defense. His plan for a “civilian national security force” funded at the same level of the U.S. military.
His attacks on due process.
His race-baiting.
“You didn’t build that.” Falling wages. 47 million on food stamps. In 2009 the economy was generating $13.2 trillion in wealth annually. After borrowing $6 trillion, the economy is generating $13.6 trillion. Good investment? His promise to cut the deficit in half. His agreement that if the economy was not better after four years, he would be a one-term president.
“Green energy” scam. Climate-change fairy tales.
Only half of America paying taxes. Yet, even considering that fact, the average American must work 107 days just to make enough money to pay local, state and federal taxes.
When Obama took office in 2009, the average price for a gallon of gas was $1.85. The average American household spent $4,155 on gasoline during 2011. At the same time, the real median household income has declined by $4,300 since Obama entered the White House.
The poverty rate in the U.S. is 22 percent.
An average of 23 manufacturing facilities permanently shut down in the United States every single day during 2010.
30 percent of unemployed Americans have been out of work for 52 weeks or longer. 48 percent of all Americans are either considered to be “low income” or are living in poverty. 49.1 percent of all Americans live in a home where at least one person receives benefits from the government. And this is Obama’s constituency! This is his base.
Last year, 53 percent of all U.S. college graduates under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed. Student loan debt is at $1 trillion.
95 percent of the jobs lost during the last recession were middle-class jobs. America is losing 500,000 jobs to China every single year. The national debt is rising by more than $2 million every single minute. 88 million working-age Americans are not employed and are not looking for employment – an all-time record high.
The U.S. national debt has risen $6 trillion since Obama took office. In his first three years in office, Obama added more to the national debt than the first 41 presidents combined.
And the biggest reason of all to defeat Obama next Tuesday is this: You ain’t seen nothing yet. If Obama created this disaster in his first four years, what will he do in his second four years when he is unaccountable for re-election?
As they say, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
please VOTE!
WELL SAID!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#122888 Nov 3, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
What Raygunz did was to run like the Chicken-Hawk that all repubs are.
And what is Obama doing about the Benghazi embassy attack? For the first two weeks he blamed it on a protest gone wrong. Oh, they are investigating which means some time after he is no longer president!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#122889 Nov 3, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
SNARFS? I love it!!! Fits our flapper friends extremely well. Priceless.
Jack has shown us who he really is.
James Madison

Birmingham, AL

#122890 Nov 3, 2012
Did you hear obumer in Iowa saying to the crowd
"You people, know what change looks like"
what he's saying is, his plan to cripple the economy,make the dollar worthless ,have government control its citizens (like all 3rd world countries do ) have a weak military ,so it can be invaded !!(rasict) because the foundry fathers were white .and start from a pile of rubbal . i got news for him ,he wont be around when the US is invaded.
He's a mental patient,and needs to be in a hospital !!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#122891 Nov 3, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Since all people who are in the USA with the exception of foreign diplomats and their families are subject to the jurisdiction of the USA, aliens (even illegal aliens) are subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
absolutely not, according to the US Constitution, citizens are the only persons subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. You, nor the USSC can prove me wrong.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#122892 Nov 3, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>that is correct! All limitations have been remove, either by birth to a citizen father or naturalization.
Gibberish.

If it were assumed that all persons subject to the jurisdiction of the US were citizens, according to the amendment, then "born or naturalized in the United States" would be meaningless and superfluous. The assumption falls. Play Law doesn't count.

"B. Canons of Statutory Construction

It is a well known canon of statutory construction that courts should construe statutory language to avoid interpretations that would render any phrase superfluous. TRW Inc. v. Andrews, 534 U.S. 19, 31, 122 S.Ct. 441, 151 L.Ed.2d 339 (2001)("It is a cardinal principle of statutory construction that a statute ought, upon the whole, to be so construed that, if it can be prevented, no clause, sentence, or word shall be superfluous, void, or insignificant.")(internal quotation marks omitted)." US v. Cooper, 396 F.3d 308,(3rd Cir. 2005)
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It may seem that way if you have a serious cognitive deficit.
Play Justice Dale seems to believe that the 14th Amendment states “all persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States are citizens” without any other limitations.
Was he kicked in the head by a horse when he was a child?
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#122893 Nov 3, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know what Reagan did the day after the attacks in Lebanon. Why don't you tell us and make sure you have a link to back-up you statement.
<quoted text>
Tisk, tisk, tisk. Petty troll remarks. Like I said, you can never back up any of your troll comments.
Back it up??? Well, Raygunz did run after the attacks....that is history. But, then again, YOU don't know a damn thing about history. That's the real problem!!!
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#122894 Nov 3, 2012
badsis wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm. You do realize that Obama is the President and the Storm was Sandy. I think you got it backwards, not surprising looking at the intelligence of your posts. Obviously the guy you're voting for has an (R) by his name. If you vote with the brain you post here, you'll probably screw that up too.
Oblama is responsible for the Americans affected and killed because of this storm, why are all you brainwashed zealot obot lefty loons so willing to excuse his lack of involvement in helping the victories and the states involved? You had no problem letting Bush have it after Katrina! The fact is you people screwed it up by putting this individual with an Indonesian citizenship, Hawaii BC and Connecticut SS# in charge of our country. You know you would have voted for him even if he had an (R) by his name, and that is a fact!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#122895 Nov 3, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I did.
<quoted text>
Give a lib enough rope, they hang themselves.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#122896 Nov 3, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>absolutely not, according to the US Constitution, citizens are the only persons subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. You, nor the USSC can prove me wrong.
Dream your dreams. The US Supreme Court has said that everyone in the USA except for the families of foreign diplomats is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.

The US Supreme Court is the final authority on the Constitution of the USA. In contrast, you are a nut.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#122897 Nov 3, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I did.
<quoted text>
Puss, you have been neutralized.
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#122898 Nov 3, 2012
Oh wait my mistake he's willing to help as long as only his union buddies do the helping!

You obots are twits!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#122899 Nov 3, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Puss, that has to be the dumbest post you have ever written, it doesn't even deserve an answer.
Play Law crashes and burns again.

“B. Canons of Statutory Construction

It is a well known canon of statutory construction that courts should construe statutory language to avoid interpretations that would render any phrase superfluous. TRW Inc. v. Andrews, 534 U.S. 19, 31, 122 S.Ct. 441, 151 L.Ed.2d 339 (2001)("It is a cardinal principle of statutory construction that a statute ought, upon the whole, to be so construed that, if it can be prevented, no clause, sentence, or word shall be superfluous, void, or insignificant.")(internal quotation marks omitted).” US v. Cooper, 396 F.3d 308,(3rd Cir. 2005
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Only an illiterate but grandiose bumpkin could possibly believe that the 14 Amendment states or implies that only citizens are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
Birfoon fantasy:
"All persons subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States."
Reality:
"All persons BORN OR NATURALIZED IN THE UNITED STATES, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States."
Apparently BirfoonBoy believes "born or naturalized in the United States" are entirely superfluous words and that there was no reason for inclusion of this phrase.
The Play Justice is missing a few cards in his deck.
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#122901 Nov 3, 2012
badsis wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. I'm Voting for Gary Johnson. Someone who know that the (R)etard agenda doesn't work. Oh, let's see, Gov. Blanco asked for Assistance 24 hrs before before Katrina hit. Bush waited 24 hours later before granting it. HMMM. Try again,(R)etard.
Have you been living in a cave on a deserted island the past 4 year? LOL, that explains why you have no knowledge of Oblama's record!
James Madison

Birmingham, AL

#122902 Nov 3, 2012
Anyone that votes for Obumer twice ,should have his/her head examined !!!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#122903 Nov 3, 2012
Robert Laity wrote:
It is UNCONTROVERTIBLE. obama's Birth Certificate IS a FORGERY. Obama IS a Usurper!
Answer: Only birther "experts"---who have not proved that they are really experts, and who certainly have not proved that they are fair and impartial---say that there is anything wrong with the image of Obama's birth certificate.

The birther "experts" include Paul Irey, who has repeatedly claimed that Obama did not attend Columbia College, despite the fact that Columbia University has stated that Obama did attend (and that he graduated). And they include Doug Vogt, who claims to have found the original altar of Abraham. It is such "experts" as these that the birthers rely on for their case.

There are many real experts who say that there is nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, including John Woodman, who happens to be a member of the Tea Party and who dislikes Obama and Obama's policies, but shows that the birther "experts" are wrong. They also include Ivan Zatkovich, who was hired by WND to examine the image of Obama's birth certificate, and when he submitted his report that there was nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, WND simply did not publish it.

As for Sheriff Joe and his posse:

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

and

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...

It is clear that rational conservatives do not believe the "birth certificate was forged" claims. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review certainly do not.

And the conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm specified facts on Obama's birth certificate. Hawaii did, stating that it compared the image of Obama's birth certificate with the file copy (which is an additional confirmation that there was a file copy BTW) and that Obama was born there and that the facts match. The secretary of state of Arizona accepted this confirmation and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November. This indicates that he does not believe the claims that the birth certificate is forged (including those of Sheriff Joe) and that he does believe the officials in Hawaii.

How do we know that there is an Obama birth certificate in the files in Hawaii and that it says on it that Obama was born in Hawaii?

The first way is based on the short form birth certificate. That was created by a clerk copying the information off of the original document in the files. If there were no document, there could be no short form birth certificate. Hawaii has confirmed that it sent a short form birth certificate (COLB) to Obama.

The second reason is that Hawaii said that there is, several times, under both Republican and Democrat governors.

The third reason is that the current director of health of Hawaii stated in a letter that she had seen the long form birth certificate being created by photocopying onto security paper the original document that was in the files.

The fourth reason is that the existence of Obama's birth certificate in 1961 is proven by the birth notices sent to the newspapers of Hawaii in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii. Only the DOH could send those notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the papers, and the DOH sent only sent those notices for children whom it had issued birth certificates for.

Would you like me to post the citations of the confirmations by the officials in Hawaii?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#122904 Nov 3, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know what Reagan did the day after the attacks in Lebanon. Why don't you tell us and make sure you have a link to back-up you statement.
<quoted text>
Tisk, tisk, tisk. Petty troll remarks. Like I said, you can never back up any of your troll comments.
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Back it up??? Well, Raygunz did run after the attacks....that is history. But, then again, YOU don't know a damn thing about history. That's the real problem!!!
Sorry, it is you you are weak on history. Do you know about the USS New Jersey?
On February 8, 1984, USS New Jersey (BB-62) fired almost 300 shells at Druze and Syrian positions in the Bekaa Valley east of Beirut. This was the heaviest shore bombardment since the Korean War.[27] New Jersey's shells killed probably hundreds of people, mostly Shiites and Druze.[28] In his memoir, General Colin Powell (at the time an assistant to Caspar Weinberger) noted that "When the shells started falling on the Shiites, they assumed the American ‘referee’ had taken sides."[29] Some analysts subsequently criticized the decision to have U.S. warships shell Druze and Syrian forces. They claim that this action forced a shift in the previously neutral U.S. forces by convincing local Lebanese Muslims that the United States had taken the Christian side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USS_New_Jer...
Yep, just one 16" shell, 1,900 pounds, will take out a New York City block and the USS New Jersey fire 300 odd shells. I think we got more of them than they got of us!!!
UninformedOhio Republican

Hammond, IN

#122905 Nov 3, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
Unemployment jumps to record high 7.9%
What???

Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#122907 Nov 3, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>don't need a USSC case to determine who is "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", just read the first sentence of the 14th amendment. Yep, it is so plainly stated, any other interpretation of said would be a violation of the Constitution.
Blather on moron. You've been wrong all year. Why stop now

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