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“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#122555 Nov 2, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>your first sentence screwed you, only citizens are subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. See, 14t Citizenship Clause.
Wrong.

"Although the congressional debate concerning § 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment was limited, that debate clearly confirms the understanding that the phrase "within its jurisdiction" was intended in a broad sense to offer the guarantee of equal protection to ALL within a State's boundaries, and to all upon whom the State would impose the obligations of its laws. Indeed, it appears from those debates that Congress, by using the phrase "person within its jurisdiction," sought expressly to ensure that the equal protection of the laws was provided to the ALIEN POPULATION. Representative Bingham reported to the House the draft resolution of the Joint Committee of Fifteen on Reconstruction (H. R. 63) that was to become the Fourteenth Amendment.[13] Cong. Globe, 39th Cong., 1st Sess., 1033 (1866)."
Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 214 (1982)(emphasis added)

Need More? Okay

"The Amendment [14th], in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born, within the territory of the United States, of ALL OTHER PERSONS, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States. EVERY CITIZEN OR SUBJECT OF ANOTHER COUNTRY, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION, OF THE UNITED STATES. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and, although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory, is yet, in the words of Lord Coke, in Calvin's Case, 7 Rep. 6a, "strong enough to make a natural subject, for if he hath issue here, that issue is a natural-born subject;" and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, "if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle." United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 693 (1898))(emphasis added)

Question: what is your problem?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#122556 Nov 2, 2012
Real Change is Coming wrote:
<quoted text>
There is NO CONTROVERSY with Mitt Romney, IDIOT!
Obama could have had 5 Million of Trump's dollars to give to the Hurricane's victims, but he wouldn't show the records that will prove he is a pResidential fraud.
I think this proves beyond a doubt that Obama does not care about the poor and downtrodden.
Only 4 more days till Obama gets his pink slip.
First, since there was--as you claim---no controversy, then Romney would for sure provide the information and Trump could give the $5 million to charity.

He did want to give the money to charity, didn't he? Or are you saying that Trump does NOT want to give money to charity; he wants to keep it. So he made the offer to Obama because he knew Obama would not honor it so Trump could keep the money???

On the other hand, there is just as much interest in Romney's grades as in Obama's grades. There is no controversy over either of their grades, but there is just as much interest in one as in the other. Is not there a chance that Romney messed up in some of his courses in college and graduate school just as high as the chance that Obama messed up in some of his courses in college and graduate school?

So, by JUST making an offer to Obama for his grades Romney was saying that he suspects that the first racially mixed president of the USA might have had bad grades, but that he does not care about the grades of the white candidate who is running against him.

So, please, why doesn't he care about the grades of the white candidate who is running against him? Doesn't that say something about Trump? Obama graduated from Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude, but Trump wants to see his grades. Romney graduated from Harvard Law and Harvard Business at the same time, quite an achievement, but Trump does not want to see his grades. If he asked for both of their grades and got them both we could compare them, but Trump does not want to see Romney's grades.

Steven Colbert has offered Trump $1 million for the charity that he chooses if Colbert can "dip my balls in your mouth." Why doesn't Trump take up this generous offer?

Oh, and IF Obama had accepted the offer---just Obama not Romney and Obama---then Trump could always say that he would have given the money to charity anyway, and wasn't it great that he fooled the president of the USA. Common Sense rule: When a supporter of your political rival makes you an offer, don't accept it.
Frank and Winnie S

Canyon Country, CA

#122557 Nov 2, 2012
...where is "Terri the Tranny Granny Tuna" lady that the Guru took apart in here? She has suddenly disappeared!

Looks like she is still stumped by the Guru's royal embarrassing her on everything financial!

She couldn't answer any of his questions, made up everything, used out of context cut and pastes, made no sense at all, could not give any real concrete examples to save her miserable life, even though he did!

Guru took her apart better than anyone else inhere. She showed she has nothing to offer, and that she went to some Salavation Army college in the middle of nowhere-lol!

We were really getting into it when she cut out and vanished.

YOU GO GURU! Keep schooling her for us! We have your back!
one4all

United States

#122558 Nov 2, 2012
Is anyone planing on voting for gary johnson or does nobody know who he is? Any infowariors?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#122560 Nov 2, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Scooter, you will be second on my list!
That may be the saddest thing you've ever posted. Now I pity you
UninformedOhio Republican

Munster, IN

#122561 Nov 2, 2012
Still now word on when the arrest warrant will be issued for Donald Trump for trying to extort President.

Stay tuned for further updates and breaking news.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#122562 Nov 2, 2012
...you can't make this shit up!
http://www.wnd.com/
Ronald Jeremy

Munster, IN

#122563 Nov 2, 2012
Frank and Winnie S wrote:
...where is "Terri the Tranny Granny Tuna" !
Be patient.

She will be here when she is finished cleaning off her chest.

I am proud to announce that she finally let me ejaculate on her sweet G.I.L.F. tits.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#122565 Nov 2, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
the cnn poll is overweighting dems by 8% in Ohio based on the 2008 models of turnout. That doesn't take into account the R surge now and his base turning on him big time. Ohio is Romney's now...

I didnt look at the other one...

cnn is a leftist organization big time. I don't even watch them anymore since Ted Turner left.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#122567 Nov 2, 2012
Guru wrote:
...you can't make this shit up!
http://www.wnd.com/
Really? Wing Nut Daily? All their shit is made up

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#122568 Nov 2, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>your first sentence screwed you, only citizens are subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. See, 14t Citizenship Clause.
Wrong again Skippy.

"The Supreme Court has extended significant constitutional protections to aliens within the United States, without distinguishing between those who are here legally or illegally, or between residents and visitors. See, e.g., Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356, 369, 6 S.Ct. 1064, 1070, 30 L.Ed. 220 (1886)("The Fourteenth Amendment ... is not confined to the protection of citizens....[Its] provisions are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction [of the United States]."); In re Ross, 140 U.S. 453, 464, 11 S.Ct. 897, 900, 35 L.Ed. 581 (1891)(holding that although fifth and sixth amendments do not apply to trials conducted in consular courts, their guarantees apply to "citizens and others within the United States, or who are brought there for trial"). US v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 856 F. 2d 1214, 1222 (9th Cir. 1988), reversed on other grounds, United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 US 259 (1990)
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#122569 Nov 2, 2012
lol!!!!!!!!!!

hahahahaa!!!1 oh lordy...can't stop laughing!!!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#122570 Nov 2, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
the cnn poll is overweighting dems by 8% in Ohio based on the 2008 models of turnout. That doesn't take into account the R surge now and his base turning on him big time. Ohio is Romney's now...
I didnt look at the other one...
cnn is a leftist organization big time. I don't even watch them anymore since Ted Turner left.
You may be right, but you could be wrong too. My point is that it is certainly NOT CERTAIN that Romney will win Ohio.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#122571 Nov 2, 2012
@rupertmurdoch: Christie, while thanking O, must re- declare for Romney, or take blame for next four dire years.
Lololololololololol looking for a scapegoat already.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#122572 Nov 2, 2012
Frank and Winnie S wrote:
...where is "Terri the Tranny Granny Tuna" lady that the Guru took apart in here? She has suddenly disappeared!
Looks like she is still stumped by the Guru's royal embarrassing her on everything financial!
She couldn't answer any of his questions, made up everything, used out of context cut and pastes, made no sense at all, could not give any real concrete examples to save her miserable life, even though he did!
Guru took her apart better than anyone else inhere. She showed she has nothing to offer, and that she went to some Salavation Army college in the middle of nowhere-lol!
We were really getting into it when she cut out and vanished.
YOU GO GURU! Keep schooling her for us! We have your back!
thankyou!
:))
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#122575 Nov 2, 2012
Goober wrote:
...you can't make this shit up!
http://www.wnd.com/
"We publish some misinformation." Joe Farah, owner and editor-in-chief of WND

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#122576 Nov 2, 2012
Penalty.

"Islam's philosophy with respect to the spread of misconduct is prevention. Part of the prevention mechanism is severe penalty."

In the name of Allah the Merciful the Compassionate
Institute of Arabic and Islamic Studies

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#122577 Nov 2, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>do you know the difference between "under" and "subject to"?
Check it out.
Looks like Dale needs to have his medication adjusted.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
BirfoonBoy: "Sorry states stopped creating citizens, Apr 1866."
That's news?
Wowee-Zowee, state citizenship became derivative! And aliens in this country were before, and after April, 1866, under the jurisdiction of the United States. Play Law doesn't count.
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#122578 Nov 2, 2012
DICK wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe he just got tired to being asked the same question, dummy.
Maybe the public is getting tired of him not answering. Dick? Ha ha.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#122579 Nov 2, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Aliens have never been "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", this is only a status held by citizens.
"All persons born or naturalized in the US and "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof" are citizens." Who are subject to the jurisdiction, thereof?
BirfoonBoy doesn't know what he thinks.
Play Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, individual states made citizens in 1790, Apr 1866 changed that,
"In the first section of the act of Congress approved March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. at Large, 102), it is enacted:
‘That any alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and UNDER THE JURISDICTION of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof.’"
Grow up.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
BirfoonBoy: "this is plainly stated in the 14th amendment"

Perhaps if you have a special decoder ring from a box of cereal.

Sorry, loser, but ordinary aliens in the US were just as subject to the jurisdiction of the United States before the CRA and 14th amendment as after.

BTW, the 14th Amendment does not expressly define which persons are or are not under the jurisdiction of the United States. Please learn the English language. There is nothing in the amendment that supports the Play Law fantasy that ordinary aliens in the US are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Grow up!

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