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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#121141 Oct 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Wojo, here is ANOTHER video. Where are YOUR videos???
<quoted text>
SURE, not only have I shown videos of Romney signs being vandalized but the names of people arrested. I have also shown a video of an Obama supporter being assaulted.
Yes, I am an equal opportunity finger pointer. I do not tolerate corruption on either side of the isle.
<quoted text>
No, it is you who can not get the point. ANYONE can make an allegation but the actual proof is when there is actual evidence like a video of the perpetrators.
A picture of a defaced sign is not proof of vandalism as the owner of the property can deface his own property. In one case a man removed an Obama sign FROM HIS OWN PROPERTY and he was arrested ..... and then released!!! The law says you can not remove a political sign that is "lawfully" posted but the poster did not have permission to place a sign on his property and they arrested the WRONG damn person.
No, it is you, the flaming bigot, who will never "get it" as you are blinded by your own bigotry.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, Rouge completely missed the point. I'm not at all surprised.
How can Rouge be against political corruption when he doesn't understand what it is?
Rouge continues to miss the point.

Rouge simply does not comprehend that vandalism of political signs by wayward individuals is not political corruption.

"Political corruption is the use of power by government officials for illegitimate private gain. Misuse of government power for other purposes, such as repression of political opponents and general police brutality, is not considered political corruption. Neither are illegal acts by private persons or corporations not directly involved with the government. An illegal act by an officeholder constitutes political corruption only if the act is directly related to their official duties, is done under color of law or involves trading in influence."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corrup...

Got a clue yet? Rouge talks about how he's against "corruption" by posting videos of ordinary vandalism.

Pathetic.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#121143 Oct 28, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
There never was a need for it to do so formally since the matter was long settled by 1789 under our now 800-year tradition of Anglo-American jurisprudence on which the United States Constitution is based.
Never was a need for it, I refer you to the Oath of Citizenship. Would you expect any-less from a born citizen?
How has Broken Axelrod been treating you?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#121144 Oct 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you? I am having a lot of fun jerking your chains. In fact every troll remark I get, is another feather in my cap!
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Rogue Moron, we all know you're incapable of jerking anything other than your own lonely pud.
Oooo, aren't we getting witty? I guess it took you eight years in college to become that phunny!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#121145 Oct 28, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Rogue Moron, we all know you're incapable of jerking anything other than your own lonely pud.
And I'd rather be a jerky than a yankey.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#121146 Oct 28, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>It has been well established that;
1. "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", is the US Constitution.
2. aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution.
3. the US Government can not strip the citizenship away from a child, that was passed from its father's nation.
4. the US Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship status.
5. a Foreign Power are all nations, other than the US.
6. Ark v. US, violated the 14th amendment.
7. Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation and never, naturalized into the US.
More infantile play law from the Play Justice.

1. "[S]ubject to the jurisdiction, thereof" is a phrase in a clause in an amendment to the Constitution. That's news?
2. Aliens have always been subject to the jurisdiction of the United States while in this country. Rephrasing as 'subject to the constitution" does not change reality.
3. The jus soli doctrine in this country concerns who is born a citizen in this country and has nothing to do with foreign citizenship.
4. Irrelevant. BirfoonBoy thinks official recognition of of dual citizenship would be necessary for the US to exercise its sovereign power within its boundaries. Nonsense.
5. so what?
6. According to Play Law. So what?
7. Irrelevant. He was born a citizen in this country per US law. Play Law doesn't count and operation of foreign law is without force or effect within the jurisdiction of the US.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
How does it feel that an NPD Twerp with his play law in his delusional world fantasizes that he kicked my ass?
Not at all surprising. NPS twerps are a dime a dozen.
Grow up.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#121147 Oct 28, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
JACQUES BARZUN, a pioneering cultural historian, reigning public intellectual and longtime Ivy League professor who became a best-selling author in his 90s with the acclaimed "From Dawn to Decadence," has died. He was 104.
Barzun, who taught for nearly 50 years at Columbia University, passed away Thursday evening in San Antonio, where he had lived in recent years, his son-in-law Gavin Parfit said.
Praised by Cynthia Ozick as among "the last of the thoroughgoing generalists," the tall, courtly Barzun wrote dozens of books and essays on everything from philosophy and music to baseball and detective novels.
In 2000, he capped his career with "From Dawn to Decadence," a survey of Western civilization from the Renaissance to the end of the 20th century. The length topped 800 pages, and the theme was uninspiring - the collapse of traditions in modern times - yet it received wide acclaim from reviewers, stayed on best-seller lists for months and wa s nominated for the National Book Award and the National Book Critics Circle prize.
Even the Rolling Stones' Keith Richards said he was reading it.
"The whole thing is a surprise, because scholarship is not exactly the thing people run after these days, or perhaps at any time," Barzun told The Associated Press in 2000.
Along with Lionel Trilling, Dwight Macdonald and others, the French immigrant was a prominent thinker during the Cold War era, making occasional television appearances and even appearing in 1956 on the cover of Time magazine, which cited him as representing "a growing host of men of ideas who not only have the respect of the nation, but who return the compliment."
In 2003, President George W. Bush awarded him a Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, praising Barzun as "a thinker of great discernment and integrity.... Few academics of the last century have equaled his output and his influence." In 2010, he re ceived a National Humanities Medal.
Barzun had firsthand knowledge of much of the 20th century and secondhand knowledge of a good part of the 19th century. His great-grandmother, born in 1830, would give him chocolate and tell him stories, an experience that helped inspire him to become a historian.
A scholar's son, Barzun was born in Creteil, France, in 1907 and grew up in a household where Modernism was the great subject and visitors included Jean Cocteau, Ezra Pound and Guillame Apollinaire, upon whose knee he once sat. But World War I drove the family out of the country and across the ocean to the United States.
"The outbreak of war in August 1914 and the nightmare that ensued put an end to all innocent joys and assumptions," Barzun later wrote. "By the age of ten - as I was later told - my words and attitudes betrayed suicidal thoughts; it appeared that I was 'ashamed' to be still alive."
Reading consoled him, especially "Hamlet," but he never rec overed his early "zest for life." In 1990, he defined himself as a "spirited" pessimist, explaining that he retained a "vivid sight of an earlier world, soon followed by its collapse in wretchedness and folly."
You mean the same Cynthia Ozick who wrote 'The Pagan Rabbi and Other Stories'?
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#121150 Oct 28, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
More infantile play law from the Play Justice.
1. "[S]ubject to the jurisdiction, thereof" is a phrase in a clause in an amendment to the Constitution. That's news?
2. Aliens have always been subject to the jurisdiction of the United States while in this country. Rephrasing as 'subject to the constitution" does not change reality.
3. The jus soli doctrine in this country concerns who is born a citizen in this country and has nothing to do with foreign citizenship.
4. Irrelevant. BirfoonBoy thinks official recognition of of dual citizenship would be necessary for the US to exercise its sovereign power within its boundaries. Nonsense.
5. so what?
6. According to Play Law. So what?
7. Irrelevant. He was born a citizen in this country per US law. Play Law doesn't count and operation of foreign law is without force or effect within the jurisdiction of the US.
<quoted text>
hahaha!! That phrase, tells you the conditions that must be met to become a US citizen, plus, it also tells you who are subject to the US Constitution. Aliens ain't!
Puss, the remainder of your BS post is, Irrelevant!

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#121152 Oct 28, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Insuring against market loss is the ESSENCE of the Markowitz approach. Sadly, the poster is not smart enough to understand elementary calculus and can't follow Black-Scholes (which is used by EVERY trader on the floor of the exchanges.
==
"Sadly the one who is self-taught (i.e., naive and unsophisticated in Finance) doesn't understand the difference between property and casualty insurance (no real estate is insured against market or interest rate loss), and insurance on equities that does provide protection against market and interest rate loss.
"These are elementary concepts but UNKNOWN to those who have to be self-taught."
====
Guru wrote:
sorry lady, you can't insure stocks if they meltdown, which they often do. They go to zero. Not so in Real Estate. The insurance you mention is prohibitive, and is never used. A stop-loss is all you get, with excessive risk and costs.
How naive and lacking in real world investment experience you must be!!
Insurance is used by virtually every non-profit portfolio manager to insure their equity portfolio against market and interest rate loss. Expensive? It costs less than 10 bps. YOUR POST MAKES IT CLEAR THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA BY WHAT NAME THAT INSURANCE IS MORE COMMONLY KNOWN. You think it is a stop-loss order. How ignorant. Only the unsophisticated use stop-loss orders, and, in any case, that does not INSURE against loss, it only minimizes loss.
==
Please make the Class stop laughing at your naivete and lack of sophistication in investing by telling the Class the more common name for equity "insurance." The betting is that you can't, because you find yourself way over your head when it comes to investments especially because you don't know anything about integral or differential calculus. Ha Ha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black%E2%80%93Sc...
==
BTW, in another post I will explain that you don't even understand "investments," because you think real estate is investing. Sadly, your lack of formal schooling precludes you from an understanding of the taxonomy of investments. Don't feel badly, that is typical of all those who are self-taught and really don't know anything.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#121154 Oct 28, 2012
Guru wrote:
"sorry lady, you can't insure stocks if they meltdown, which they often do. They go to zero."
====
The Class would like you to name any stock that while trading on the NYSE went to $zero in, say, the past SIXTY years. Thank you.
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#121156 Oct 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A lot of people have no idea what the power of starvation has. Just look at the French Revolution of 1789. It was a famine that caused the revolution.
Sure, the people were very unhappy with the royals but when Marie Antoinette said, "Let them eat cake", they cut her head off!
If New York City and Long Island get cut off from this storm and they do not start getting more food into the islands, the politicians will understand the power of starvation!!!
I always get a chuckle from your concept of history, specially the French revolution. Charming, simply charming, cute even.
James Madison

Birmingham, AL

#121158 Oct 28, 2012
some more obama plans for middle -class

Anglo American Platinum - Dismisses 12,000 Workers

Update: Idaho Molybdenum Mine - 100+

Credit Suisse Group NY - Plans 78 Layoffs

AMD Advance Micro Devices - up to 2,340 Job Cuts

City of Los Angeles Ca.- More Job Cuts Possible

Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. plant Fayetteville NC - 200

DuPont - Plans 1,500 Layoffs

Peabody Energy - Around 925 Globally?

American Airlines - 450 at Tulsa Maint.& Engin. Center

CCS Medical Tampa Bay Area FL - 82

Louisiana State Uni. Health System - 1,500 Layoffs Possible

to many to list all of them ,only listed 10%
American Lady

Danville, KY

#121159 Oct 28, 2012
The Flames Of Benghazi Will Burn Through The Horse Hair
...
But the Dear Leader loving U.S. Media is furiously working to beat back the fire…

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/10/2...

Benghazi – Trail, Truth, and Treason…
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/10/2...

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/arti...
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#121160 Oct 28, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Having learned English in part by reading James Fenimore Cooper, Barzun entered Columbia as an undergraduate at age 15 and was in his early 20s when the school hired him as an instructor in the history department. He remained with Columbia until his retirement, in 1975, and would be long remembered for the "Colloquium on Important Books" he taught with Trilling, with one former student calling Barzun "a towering charismatic figure who aroused the kind of fierce loyalties that the medieval masters must have."
Allen Ginsberg, another Barzun student, once joked that his former professor was a master of "politeness."
Barzun's greatest influence was on the writing of cultural history; he helped invent it. As a student at Columbia he was among the first to integrate the narration of wars and government with the evolution of art, science, education and fashion.
"It was partly my upbringing, being among a group of artists of every kind," he told the AP. "When I became interested in history, it seemed that social and cultural elements were perfectly real things that existed as forces. Diplomacy and force of arms were treated as the substance of history, and there was this other realm missing."
"From Dawn to Decadence," summing up a lifetime of thinking, offered a rounded, leisurely and conservative tour of Western civilization, with numerous digressions printed in the margins. Barzun guided readers from the religious debates of the Reformation to the contemporary debates on beliefs of any kind.
"Distrust (was) attached to anything that retained a shadow of authoritativeness - old people, old ideas, old conceptions of what a leader or a teacher might do," he wrote of the late 20th century.
Barzun told the AP in 2003 that he remembered coming to the United States after World War I and finding a country that lived up to its own happy, informal reputation. "It was openhearted, amiable and courteous in manner, ready to try anything new," he said. "But many of those things have gone to pieces, for understandable reasons."
He contributed to such magazines as Harper's and The New Republic and he published more than 30 books, notably "Teacher in America," a classic analysis of education and culture. In the early 1950s, he and Trilling helped found the Readers' Subscription Book Club, a highbrow response to the Book-of-the-Month Club that lasted 12 years.
Barzun also edited many books, including a compilation of short detective stories, and wrote a memorable essay on baseball, in which he advised that "Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." Those words eventually made it to the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, N.Y., for which Barz un later autographed a bat celebrating his 100th birthday.
Barzun had three children with his first wife, Marianna Lowell, who died in 1978. He married Marguerite Davenport two years later. He also is survived by 10 grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren, according to his daughter, Isabel Barzun.
"He was a gentleman. He was a scholar. He was refined, he was kind. He was enormously generous in spirit," said Parfit, his son-in-law. "He was one of a kind."
Vey interesting, Terri. Thank you. You wrote :

"He was a gentleman. He was a scholar. He was refined, he was kind. He was enormously generous in spirit," said Parfit, his son-in-law. "He was one of a kind."

Birthers will tell you that the above are all attributes of a communist. What's more, his name is Jacques, French, hmpf, probably socialist and gay.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#121162 Oct 28, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW, loser, if I "have shat for brains," what do birfoons like you have?
Will you next attempt at troling finally include your understanding of unskewedpolls's methods? Will it finally be mandatory case law that supports your birfoon fantasy of jurisdiction?
Or will be still just be laughing at your ineptness.
Dummy, "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", is the Constitution! I see you aren't a big proponent of the US Constitution, especially the 14th amendment.
Noway Duh

Clearlake, CA

#121163 Oct 28, 2012
Jack wrote:
Look at these poll numbers More reublican lies.
"The Hoyt Comany Polled 1000 NY residents at random. The New Yorkers polled were all from diffent areas of NY. 36% stated they will vote For Obama. 37% stated they were Casting their vote for Romney. 21 % stated they were undecided. 4% stated they were not voteing due to lack of faith in either campain. 2% said they were unable to vote as they were not US citizens."
You all best get on the Obama Wagon it is here to stay and if you don't like it too bad Leave the usa. If your aginst Obama you should be put in a labor camp. Morons should be fixed so they can not have more Idiot republican childern. Only the Dem Party knows whats best for everyone. You all need to be controled and you so called rights taken away as you are a menace to the USA.
When polls are against Oblama all you loon lefties say polls don't matter, but when he's ahead they do!

So you are the type backing Oblama
"The Oblama bandwagon is here to stay" / is Oblama planning on being the first POTUS occupy the whitehouse for more than two terms?
"Leave the USA" if you don't like Oblama / so if you loony left had your way if you didn't buy into to socialist dictatorship of Oblama we the people should just leave? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
"If you're against Oblama you should be put in labor camps" / so according to you anyone who votes against you candidate is an enemy of the country? You statement is a clear anti American statement!
"Morons should be fixed so they can not have more idiot republican children" / well that says it all, you want to sterilize republicans like the nazis did! This says it all, what kind of people support Oblama!
"Only the dem party knows what's best for everyone" / actually the government doesn't know what is best for us either dem or rep, we as individual Americans know what is best for ourselves, what wou are talking about is a dictatorship, glad to know that is what Oblama is!
"Your civil right should be taken away" / well again nice to know what Oblama has planned for Americans!

You are the epitomy of a brainwashed Oblama zealot fool! Good luck with that!
Who

London, KY

#121164 Oct 28, 2012
Some of these posts have been interesting to read but most of them are ridiculous, especially from American Lady! Crazy!!
Who

London, KY

#121165 Oct 28, 2012
Where are you people from???
American Lady

Danville, KY

#121166 Oct 28, 2012
**********
The Lord's Prayer

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on Earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the POWER and the glory, forever and ever.

Amen †

**********

"I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America,
and to the republic
for which it stands,
one nation
under God,
indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all."
**********
Armour of God Prayer
Heavenly father I am ready to take my stand against the powers of darkness. Please help me to stand against the spiritual forces of Evil that want to destroy my Country, my family, and me...

The Belt of Truth
The Breastplate of Righteousness
The Gospel of Peace
The Shield of Faith
The Helmet of Salvation
Sword of the Spirit

I will pray persistently for my "fellow believers" in the authority of Jesus' name, deeded to me according to my Faith...

In Jesus' name I pray...
Amen <3
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Kid Rock- Born Free (tribute to the military) <3


ROMNEY/RYAN 2012
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Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#121167 Oct 28, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
That would be none for Romney and MUCH for Obama!
They are different.
This is the fact that you can't explain
They are both candidates who have not showed their school transcripts and their passport records. And there is exactly as much controversy about Obama's school records and passport records as about Mitt Romney's school records and passport records. Claims of "controversy" were manufactured by Obama's enemies.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#121168 Oct 28, 2012
Who wrote:
Where are you people from???
Ky!

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