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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#121185 Oct 28, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Terri Tanna wrote:

<quoted text>
BTW, in another post I will explain that you don't even understand "investments," because you think real estate is investing. Sadly, your lack of formal schooling precludes you from an understanding of the taxonomy of investments. Don't feel badly, that is typical of all those who are self-taught and really don't know anything.
one more time for Terri Tanny the moron...

Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, there is only one universally accepted approach to equity investing. There may be variations on it, but the core principles are universally accepted: stock prices cannot be predicted, in an efficient market (the U.S. equities market) all information is instantaneously incorporated, the value of an equity is the present value of its discounted future earnings (about which there may be considerable uncertainty, it is unlikely that any professional manager can outperform The Market over time when consideration is given to beta, tax consequences, and transactions costs.
Can you say it any better?
You probably can't but I can. I was gone for the debates, but am back now. Now lets get down to it.

1. Real estate investing just kills stocks. No matter how you look at it. Now, having said that, the stock pundits like yourself like to tout returns. But they never look at the costs. Stocks pay full price, taxes are huge on your returns, and you are subject to massive attacks via real time fluctuations that are out of your control. RE just mangles stocks in that effort. Case in point. Just one of many, and my own experience just completed:

100 unit apt building: cost to me $625K. Repair, fix up $150,000. Resale: just under $2Million. Cash flow over $1.5Million. Numerous tax advantages and protection. All cash, 1031 exchange, all taxes deferred. NO TAXES due. The list goes on and on.

Strategy: there are 4 "markets" in real estate. Cycles, stages if you will:

1- EXPANSION
2- EQUILIBRIUM
3- DECLINE
4- ABSORPTION

I invest for income, cash flow, tax write offs, appreciation in stage 4. I invest for location in any of the cycles. The above example is an investment in stage 3/4. It covered two blocks in eight buildings. It was split off from the other side of the development right next to it and constructed of larger units that had more problems, much higher expenses. I did this with none of my own money. The result was a great return, infinity if you will less opportunity costs whi8ch cannot be measured. However, it generated 4 different purchases, all cash in some cases, also in the same stage of that economy. All cash flow, all equity, all tax advantaged, and stocks could never touch my returns that in terms of return: mine was not 10%, not 100%, not 1,000. It was infinity.

You?

...again, arguing about writers is boring. Let's talk real time investments, and we will let the class decide on who is real, who makes deals and money, and who is doing the cut and pastes on things which hardly matter now.

The class awaits your response.

Please tell us again how Investing for $$millions in profit is not investing, but posting your drivel is investing. And show us a couple of your best deals. Otherwise you are just pissing into the wind.

We'll let the class here decide on who the investor is and who the old wind-bag is. Go for it. We can't wait to hear your BS.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#121186 Oct 28, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, there is only one universally accepted approach to equity investing. There may be variations on it, but the core principles are universally accepted: stock prices cannot be predicted, in an efficient market (the U.S. equities market) all information is instantaneously incorporated, the value of an equity is the present value of its discounted future earnings (about which there may be considerable uncertainty, it is unlikely that any professional manager can outperform The Market over time when consideration is given to beta, tax consequences, and transactions costs.
__________

GURU wrote:

Can you say it any better?
You probably can't but I can. I was gone for the debates, but am back now. Now lets get down to it.

1. Real estate investing just kills stocks. No matter how you look at it. Now, having said that, the stock pundits like yourself like to tout returns. But they never look at the costs. Stocks pay full price, taxes are huge on your returns, and you are subject to massive attacks via real time fluctuations that are out of your control. RE just mangles stocks in that effort. Case in point. Just one of many, and my own experience just completed:

100 unit apt building: cost to me $625K. Repair, fix up $150,000. Resale: just under $2Million. Cash flow over $1.5Million. Numerous tax advantages and protection. All cash, 1031 exchange, all taxes deferred. NO TAXES due. The list goes on and on.

Strategy: there are 4 "markets" in real estate. Cycles, stages if you will:

1- EXPANSION
2- EQUILIBRIUM
3- DECLINE
4- ABSORPTION

I invest for income, cash flow, tax write offs, appreciation in stage 4. I invest for location in any of the cycles. The above example is an investment in stage 3/4. It covered two blocks in eight buildings. It was split off from the other side of the development right next to it and constructed of larger units that had more problems, much higher expenses. I did this with none of my own money. The result was a great return, infinity if you will less opportunity costs whi8ch cannot be measured. However, it generated 4 different purchases, all cash in some cases, also in the same stage of that economy. All cash flow, all equity, all tax advantaged, and stocks could never touch my returns that in terms of return: mine was not 10%, not 100%, not 1,000. It was infinity.

You?

...again, arguing about writers is boring. Let's talk real time investments, and we will let the class decide on who is real, who makes deals and money, and who is doing the cut and pastes on things which hardly matter now.

The class awaits your response.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#121187 Oct 28, 2012
Investment question for Terri Tanny:

hey Terri, I have a question for you. A simple one that will be easy for you to answer if you are real. It goes like this:

Is real estate a derivative? Why or why not?
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#121188 Oct 28, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Terri Tanna wrote:

BTW, in another post I will explain that you don't even understand "investments," because you think real estate is investing. Sadly, your lack of formal schooling precludes you from an understanding of the taxonomy of investments. Don't feel badly, that is typical of all those who are self-taught and really don't know anything.
here Terri...They have Wikipedia for m0rons like you to learn: You say there is no such thing as investing in real estate...LOL!
Just for you toots:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_inve...
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#121191 Oct 28, 2012
lol...I can see why Terri Tranny gets so much flak in here. Just like obama...when you can't defend yourself you talk about property insurance and deny the obvious. obama does it all the time, that is why he is going to be so roundly defeated in 8 days he will make Carter look competent.
'

And to show you how psychologically degenerate you are Tranny granny...you supported this fool for all 4 years that he was in there. Now you will see the results of following a fool. Who is the biggest fool?...the fool or the person who follows the fool?

Put up or shut up lady. You have gotten your saggy ass so kicked in here by everyone your mouth is now your pie hole.(*)
Justice Dale

United States

#121195 Oct 28, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
here Terri...They have Wikipedia for m0rons like you to learn: You say there is no such thing as investing in real estate...LOL!
Just for you toots:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_inve...
Daham! You just ran her off, for another two weeks, good!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#121197 Oct 28, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Daham! You just ran her off, for another two weeks, good!
TT is nothing but BS. Anyone who "actually" comes from the type of wealth she claims to come from simply isn't going to be hanging out on TOPIX! Nor would such a person indulge in such trivial insults and put downs. People that "do" come from such backgrounds have class, tact and are well polished. Does TT even come close to these qualities? Not a chance in hell. LMAO at this fool with shat for brains! The one time she did set foot on a college campus, she was arrested for turning tricks,$2.99 for four hours! She is stanky tank meat, no doubt about it.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#121199 Oct 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
America! I have lived in a dozen states from Hawaii to Maine, five times in Alabama, four times in Texas, three times in Oklahoma and in four different countries. But there is no place like the good ole' U.S. of A., home of the brave!
Four times in Texas? WOW!!! That explains it. You do know that Texas is their own country?

I was just there last week....it still sucks.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#121200 Oct 28, 2012
No wonder people like Terri Tunna loathe the military. They loathe Obama!

Different Presidents, A Different Corps
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#121201 Oct 28, 2012
I love Christmas lights! They remind me of.....
"the people who voted for Obama......."
They all hang together; half of them don't work,
and the ones that do, aren't all that bright!
Vote Republican on November 6!!


Since: May 10

Location hidden

#121203 Oct 28, 2012
However, the State of Texas can prevent them from gaining access to places not open to the public. The Federal government prevents them from accessing many military and other sensitive sites already and for them to tell the State of Texas can can not do so is wrong.
I say to Texas, hold your ground! And in any event, Obama will be gone in three months anyway!

State Department warns Texas AG not to arrest UN-affiliated election observers (list of locations)
Michelle Malkin ^| 10/27/12 | Doug Powers
Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has warned a group of UN-affiliated “international election observers” that they could be subject to criminal prosecution if they breach state laws by being within 100 feet of polling place entrances.
The US State Department issued a warning as well. No, not to the election observers — to Texas:
International election observers planning to visit Texas polling places have “full immunity” from being arrested in the United States , the State Department said when discussing a letter from the Texas Attorney General.
“I’m not going to get into any kind of hypothetical situations or predict where this is going to go other than to say we have every expectation that this will be worked out and to state the fact, which is that under U.S. law they are eligible for immunities,” said State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland. Reporters tried to get her to state explicitly that Texas could not arrest election observers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), but Nuland would only reiterate that OSCE observers have full immunity.
Hey, it’s not like the State Department has anything else to worry about.
The “observers” will in part be looking for voter fraud and suppression activities by conservative groups. They’re only monitoring conservatives because nobody on the other side of the political spectrum has been busted in a voter fraud scam since, oh… Wednesday.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#121206 Oct 28, 2012
Low-Life Cheatin' Republican

The 2012 Presidential election is over and was too close to call. Neither Mitt Romney nor Obama had enough votes to win. There was much talk about ballot recounting, court challenges, etc., but a week-long ice fishing competition seemed the sportsmanlike way to settle things.

It was decided that there should be an ice fishing contest between the two candidates to determine the winner.

After much of back and forth discussion, it was decided that the contest would take place on a remote frozen lake in northern Wisconsin.

The candidate that caught the most fish at the end of the week would win the election.

There were to be no observers present, and both men were to be sent out separately on this isolated lake and return at 5 P.M. with their catch for counting and verification by a team of neutral parties.

At the end of the first day, Mitt Romney returned to the starting line, and he had 10 fish.

Soon, Obama returned and had no fish. Well, everyone assumed he was just having a bad day or something and hopefully, he would catch up the next day.

At the end of the 2nd day Mitt came in with 20 fish, and Obama came in again with none.

That evening the Democrats got together secretly with Obama and said, "We think that Mitt Romney is a low-life, cheatin' son-of-a-gun. Tomorrow don't bother fishing. Just spy on him, and see just how he is cheating.'

The next night (after Mitt returns with 50 fish), the Democrats got together for the report of how the Republicans were cheating.

Obama said, "You are not going to believe this ... he's cutting holes in the ice!!"
Gun For Sale

Ewa Beach, HI

#121208 Oct 28, 2012
Latest from Tim Adams, fmr Senior Elections Clerk for Honolulu: Romney/GOP voter fraud failing at polls:

http://youtu.be/o0pXzK4HbPQ
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#121211 Oct 28, 2012
Who wrote:
Some of these posts have been interesting to read but most of them are ridiculous, especially from American Lady! Crazy!!
She never posts, or hardly ever. It's mostly cut-and-paste hate and unchristian unfounded calumny. When very rarely she does post, everyone, right and left, begs her to return to cut-and-paste.

Oh, and this Christian Lady starts off each day with "Our Father" and the oath of allegiance after which she merrily quotes Pravda and the Iranian minister of the interior. Last week, Putin.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#121212 Oct 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
America! I have lived in a dozen states from Hawaii to Maine, five times in Alabama, four times in Texas, three times in Oklahoma and in four different countries. But there is no place like the good ole' U.S. of A., home of the brave!
"America!" you write. Which one, North, Central, South America?'Cus we are all Americans, no?
I Scream

Cedar Lake, IN

#121214 Oct 28, 2012
The origins of ice cream can be traced back to at least the 4th century B.C. Early references include the Roman emperor Nero (A.D. 37-68) who ordered ice to be brought from the mountains and combined with fruit toppings, and King Tang (A.D. 618-97) of Shang, China who had a method of creating ice and milk concoctions. Ice cream was likely brought from China back to Europe. Over time, recipes for ices, sherbets, and milk ices evolved and served in the fashionable Italian and French royal courts.
After the dessert was imported to the United States, it was served by several famous Americans. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson served it to their guests. In 1700, Governor Bladen of Maryland was recorded as having served it to his guests. In 1774, a London caterer named Philip Lenzi announced in a New York newspaper that he would be offering for sale various confections, including ice cream. Dolly Madison served it in 1812.

First Ice Cream Parlor In America - Origins Of English Name
The first ice cream parlor in America opened in New York City in 1776. American colonists were the first to use the term "ice cream". The name came from the phrase "iced cream" that was similar to "iced tea". The name was later abbreviated to "ice cream" the name we know today.
Methods and Technology
Whoever invented the method of using ice mixed with salt to lower and control the temperature of ice cream ingredients during its making provided a major breakthrough in ice cream technology. Also important was the invention of the wooden bucket freezer with rotary paddles improved ice cream's manufacture.
Augustus Jackson, a confectioner from Philadelphia, created new recipes for making ice cream in 1832.

Nancy Johnson and William Young - Hand-Cranked Freezers
In 1846, Nancy Johnson patented a hand-cranked freezer that established the basic method of making ice cream still used today. William Young patented the similar "Johnson Patent Ice-Cream Freezer" in 1848.

Jacob Fussell - Commercial Production
In 1851, Jacob Fussell in Baltimore established the first large-scale commercial ice cream plant. Alfred Cralle patented an ice cream mold and scooper used to serve on February 2 1897.
Mechanical Refrigeration
The treat became both distributable and profitable with the introduction of mechanical refrigeration. The ice cream shop or soda fountain has since become an icon of American culture.
Continuous Process Freezer
Around 1926, the first commercially successful continuous process freezer for ice cream was invented by Clarence Vogt.
History of the Ice Cream Sundae
Historians argue over the originator of the ice cream sundae.
History of Ice Cream Cones
The walk-away edible cone made its American debut at the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair.
Soft Ice Cream
British chemists discovered a method of doubling the amount of air in ice cream creating soft ice cream.
Eskimo Pie
The idea for the Eskimo Pie bar was created by Chris Nelson, a ice cream shop owner from Onawa, Iowa. He thought up the idea in the spring of 1920, after he saw a young customer called Douglas Ressenden having difficulty choosing between ordering an ice cream sandwich and a chocolate bar. Nelson created the solution, a chocolate covered ice cream bar. The first Eskimo Pie chocolate covered ice cream bar on a stick was created in 1934.
Originally Eskimo Pie was called the "I-Scream-Bar". Between 1988 and 1991, Eskimo Pie introduced an aspartame sweetened, chocolate covered, frozen dairy dessert bar called the Eskimo Pie No Sugar Added Reduced Fat Ice Cream Bar.

Haagen-Dazs
Reuben Mattus invented Haagen-Dazs in 1960, he choose the name because it sounded Danish.
DoveBar
The DoveBar was invented by Leo Stefanos.
Good Humor Ice Cream Bar
In 1920, Harry Burt invented the Good Humor Ice Cream Bar and patented it in 1923. Burt sold his Good Humor bars from a fleet of white trucks equipped with bells and uniformed drivers.
I Scream

Cedar Lake, IN

#121216 Oct 28, 2012
The origins of ice cream can be traced back to at least the 4th century B.C. Early references include the Roman emperor Nero (A.D. 37-68) who ordered ice to be brought from the mountains and combined with fruit toppings, and King Tang (A.D. 618-97) of Shang, China who had a method of creating ice and milk concoctions. Ice cream was likely brought from China back to Europe. Over time, recipes for ices, sherbets, and milk ices evolved and served in the fashionable Italian and French royal courts.
After the dessert was imported to the United States, it was served by several famous Americans. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson served it to their guests. In 1700, Governor Bladen of Maryland was recorded as having served it to his guests. In 1774, a London caterer named Philip Lenzi announced in a New York newspaper that he would be offering for sale various confections, including ice cream. Dolly Madison served it in 1812.

First Ice Cream Parlor In America - Origins Of English Name
The first ice cream parlor in America opened in New York City in 1776. American colonists were the first to use the term "ice cream". The name came from the phrase "iced cream" that was similar to "iced tea". The name was later abbreviated to "ice cream" the name we know today.
Methods and Technology
Whoever invented the method of using ice mixed with salt to lower and control the temperature of ice cream ingredients during its making provided a major breakthrough in ice cream technology. Also important was the invention of the wooden bucket freezer with rotary paddles improved ice cream's manufacture.
Augustus Jackson, a confectioner from Philadelphia, created new recipes for making ice cream in 1832.

Nancy Johnson and William Young - Hand-Cranked Freezers
In 1846, Nancy Johnson patented a hand-cranked freezer that established the basic method of making ice cream still used today. William Young patented the similar "Johnson Patent Ice-Cream Freezer" in 1848.
Rollerboy Corey Haim

Cedar Lake, IN

#121217 Oct 28, 2012
Haim stars as Griffin, a rollerblader in the not so distant future of Los Angeles which is in a sad state, the city is deep in crime and drug activity in the wake of a catastrophic nation-wide economic crash caused by the stupidity and greed of the previous generation. The film includes ominous reminders of both the past and present, including news reports of riots in Washington D.C., a newspaper headline that proclaims "GERMANY BUYS POLAND", and a reference to the Israeli Defense Forces "cleaning up Northern Ireland".

A rollerblade-wearing white supremacist youth gang known as the Rollerboys fight for spiritual and economic control of what's left of the city. The fascist group is founded and led by a childhood neighbour of Griffin's. The Rollerboys carry out their eugenic agenda through both violent gun battles with ethnic gangs, and especially through their distribution of the drug "mist". When Griffin's little brother begins to idolise the Rollerboys and eventually starts abusing mist, Griffin is convinced by the police chief and an undercover cop (Patricia Arquette) to join up with the Rollerboys as a mole, in exchange for the promise of a better life for his brother.

Having joined up, Griffin's loyalties to the gang are eventually called into question and he is tricked into beating his African-American friend Speedbagger almost to death. He also discovers that the Rollerboy's mantra "the day of the Rope is coming" actually refers to a toxic chemical "Rope" being added to the mist drug which renders its (mostly non-Caucasian) abusers sterile, thus facilitating the fascist gang's genocidal goal.

It's a race against time as Griffin tries to find a way out for himself and his younger brother before he is discovered by the Rollerboys and murdered.
Jeopardy

Cedar Lake, IN

#121218 Oct 28, 2012
Ken Jennings - I'll take abortion profiteers for $500

Alex Trebek - This slimey scumbag acquired $50,000,000 for his work in disposing of millions of fetuses.

Ken Jennings - Who is Mitt Romney?

Alex Trebek - That is correct.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#121219 Oct 28, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
America! I have lived in a dozen states from Hawaii to Maine, five times in Alabama, four times in Texas, three times in Oklahoma and in four different countries. But there is no place like the good ole' U.S. of A., home of the brave!
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Four times in Texas? WOW!!! That explains it. You do know that Texas is their own country?
I was just there last week....it still sucks.
Mistake, I lived in Texas FIVE times, I lived in Kileen, TX in 1951-52, San Marco in 1954 (one brother born there), El Paso in 1960-63 (another brother born there), Mineral Wells, 1969 and San Antonio in 1971.
Yes, Texas was the only state to be accepted as a state directly from being a sovereign country.
Ah if you put the Texas flag up on a pole with the point of the star pointing downward, the school principal will chew your butt!!!

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