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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#120584 Oct 25, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet he remains an illegal alien. Dumbazz pollock!
Children's play law doesn't count.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#120585 Oct 25, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought your "Will of 'WE THE PEOPLE'" elected the President in a landslide victory (68%).
Or do you dismiss the "other 47%" as inconsequential?
...this class is still waiting on you grandma. What do you want to discuss next after you answer my last few post directed to you?

The time value of money? The internal rate of return? The present vs future value of money? What??

...or are you still ducking my real life questions to you about the $2.7 million I made on one deal? The class is waiting...for you!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#120586 Oct 25, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet he remains an illegal alien. Dumbazz pollock!
Sorry, play law doesn't count.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#120587 Oct 25, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
...this class is still waiting on you grandma. What do you want to discuss next after you answer my last few post directed to you?
The time value of money? The internal rate of return? The present vs future value of money? What??
...or are you still ducking my real life questions to you about the $2.7 million I made on one deal? The class is waiting...for you!
In case you can't find it Terri Tanna...here it is again...

Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, there is only one universally accepted approach to equity investing. There may be variations on it, but the core principles are universally accepted: stock prices cannot be predicted, in an efficient market (the U.S. equities market) all information is instantaneously incorporated, the value of an equity is the present value of its discounted future earnings (about which there may be considerable uncertainty, it is unlikely that any professional manager can outperform The Market over time when consideration is given to beta, tax consequences, and transactions costs.
Can you say it any better?

__________

Guru's response to the above...

You probably can't but I can. I was gone for the debates, but am back now. Now lets get down to it.

1. Real estate investing just kills stocks. No matter how you look at it. Now, having said that, the stock pundits like yourself like to tout returns. But they never look at the costs. Stocks pay full price, taxes are huge on your returns, and you are subject to massive attacks via real time fluctuations that are out of your control. RE just mangles stocks in that effort. Case in point. Just one of many, and my own experience just completed:

100 unit apt building: cost to me $625K. Repair, fix up $150,000. Resale: just under $2Million. Cash flow over $1.5Million. Numerous tax advantages and protection. All cash, 1031 exchange, all taxes deferred. NO TAXES due. The list goes on and on.

Strategy: there are 4 "markets" in real estate. Cycles, stages if you will:

1- EXPANSION
2- EQUILIBRIUM
3- DECLINE
4- ABSORPTION

I invest for income, cash flow, tax write offs, appreciation in stage 4. I invest for location in any of the cycles. The above example is an investment in stage 3/4. It covered two blocks in eight buildings. It was split off from the other side of the development right next to it and constructed of larger units that had more problems, much higher expenses. I did this with none of my own money. The result was a great return, infinity if you will less opportunity costs whi8ch cannot be measured. However, it generated 4 different purchases, all cash in some cases, also in the same stage of that economy. All cash flow, all equity, all tax advantaged, and stocks could never touch my returns that in terms of return: mine was not 10%, not 100%, not 1,000. It was infinity.

You?

...again, arguing about writers is boring. Let's talk real time investments, and we will let the class decide on who is real, who makes deals and money, and who is doing the cut and pastes on things which hardly matter now.

...the class awaits your response.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#120588 Oct 25, 2012
President George W. Bush, as a wartime president, wasn’t bound by the usual legal constraints on surveillance and torture ...

WARTIME EXECUTIVE POWER
AND
THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY'S SURVEILLANCE AUTHORITY

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-109shrg2744...
Grand Birther

Brooklyn, NY

#120589 Oct 25, 2012
American Lady wrote:
**********
**********
FREEDOM...
What Is It?
As I lie in my bed sleep eludes me ...
Thoughts of the past few weeks run through my head...
The word FREEDOM keeps flooding my thoughts...
I've heard it my whole life...
Being born in a place where it's held in the HIGHEST esteem and enjoying all it's benefits...
As I lay here and ponder it's meaning
I realize...
It's not just a word that rolls off the tip of the tongue so easily...
Nor the RINGING of the Bell in the city streets in CELEBRATION of IT...
That make iT so important...
I contemplate with such an earnest desire to know the TRUE meaning of such a THING...
That so many would SACRIFICE their LIVES for...
TO OBTAIN OR KEEP ...
And so many would TRY to "withhold" from others...
Perplexed at all this...
My mind still DANCING with these thoughts...
I try to sleep but FREEDOM is still RINGING ALOUD !!!...
This makes no sense...
You can NOT put it in a box...
Or lock it up in a vault...
Yet it seems to be a most precious commodity...
A thing which you can NOT hold in your hands...
Like the wind...
You can not see it...
But you know it exists...
Because you FEEL the effects of it and you enjoy it's "great" benefits...
As time moved forward...
My mind was stumbling around in the darkness of my room...
Seconds...
Then minutes...
Then hours went by...
When in a quickness...
The light broke through the darkness of my room ...
Then ...suddenly I sat up and realized ...
I had not slept at all ...
With that came the revelation of what I had been searching for ...
My mind was as enlightened ...
As the very room I was sitting in ...
FREEDOM was a GIFT ...
A BIRTH Right !!!...
It is a GIFT from our CREATOR ...
Encoded in our being ...
It's in our very soul ...
It is as much a part of us as our very breath ...
The very part of us ...EVERY PART OF US ...
That allows us to soar
To the HEIGHTS of our talents ...
Our Dreams and our Visions ...
The endless part of creativity that makes US ...
An individual ...
Unique like none other ...
Then another thought came to me ...
Why so many TRY to STOP such a GIFT from operating in one's LIFE ...
Just like our Breath... If it's taken away ...
We DIE ...
When FREEDOM is taken away ...
Our Dreams and Visions perish ...
No one can separate that GIFT from the Heart ...
The yearning for FREEDOM is always There !!!...
So WHY would some one do such a "horrible" thing ...
As to not "allow" another to operate in his own FREEDOM ???...
Then it came to me in such a bitter sweet thought ...
It is used ...
To ...
"Control" ...
We take the FREEDOM away from a mad dog to keep him from hurting others ...
A murderous twisted or demented person for the safety of ALL ...
But what about those who want to live as the CREATOR had intended ...
Sharing and giving to mankind ???...
And what about those who are deserving to have such a Gift ...
Yet it is withheld from them?...
Why then, when they would clearly use it to enhance the World around them ...
With their talents and "good" Deeds?...
Maybe just plain ignorance or arrogance ...
It's all part of human nature ...
So why then would they try to imprison that which they can "not" hold?...
Oh foolish one, You can not hold the wind in your hand, nor separate ones Freedom from their Heart ...
You can Not take away what the "Creator" has given as a Gift ...
You "Can" take away ALL my worldly possessions; "even my breath" ...
But... You may Not have what is in my HEART!...
Because it is Mine ...
And Mine Alone ...
GIVEN by my CREATOR...
It IS my RIGHT to have iT ...
And to Live within ITS Design ...
Freedom Precious FREEDOM!!!
By ~~ Freedom Annie
**********
This is some insane rambling hillbilly garbage.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#120590 Oct 25, 2012
JOBS JOBS JOBS
Three legendary Americans that will long be remembered...

Every man wants to leave a legacy.

Something he will be remembered for. These three certainly left their mark.
See if you can guess who they are.....

Steve Jobs 1995 - 2011
Bl@W Jobs 1992 - 2001
No Jobs 2008 - 2012

Don't hate me ...
the devil made me do it.

;-)
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#120592 Oct 25, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Wonder why Omammie can't do this simply act? After all his core agenda is helping the needy, right? Yet, no 5M to children who really need it. Tainted severely forever. He is a laughing stock. He will not stand up for what he "supposedly" believes in! Pathetic disgrace to the Office of the President. Worst prez ever. What a coward Omammie is. LMAO
Why doesn't Trump give Romney a chance to help the needy too?
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#120593 Oct 25, 2012
American Lady wrote:
President George W. Bush, as a wartime president, wasn’t bound by the usual legal constraints on surveillance and torture ...
WARTIME EXECUTIVE POWER
AND
THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY'S SURVEILLANCE AUTHORITY
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-109shrg2744...
Are you okay? Since when is tortuting POWs legal under the Geneva Convention of which the USA is a signatory?
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#120594 Oct 25, 2012
American Lady wrote:
JOBS JOBS JOBS
Three legendary Americans that will long be remembered...
Every man wants to leave a legacy.
Something he will be remembered for. These three certainly left their mark.
See if you can guess who they are.....
Steve Jobs 1995 - 2011
Bl@W Jobs 1992 - 2001
No Jobs 2008 - 2012
Don't hate me ...
the devil made me do it.
;-)
More unattributed plagiarism which moreover you don't even understand. You don't even know who Jobs was.
Ya Baby

Canyon Country, CA

#120595 Oct 25, 2012
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#120597 Oct 25, 2012
BUSTED Birfoon wrote:
More from Ivan Zatkovich.
It is possible to take a single layer PDF and inadvertently create multiple layers, without ch

blah blah blah

t may have been made, several changes are identifiable.
That does not appear to be the case here.
WOW! This is some really awesome stuff Kentucky Klown!

A real gamechanger.

Maybe this time, if birfoons make it to trial, birfoon extraordinaire Oily Taint will be able to get birfoon recognized as an expert by the court.

Why does she fail so badly at simple procedural rules?
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#120598 Oct 25, 2012
BUSTED Birfoon wrote:
<quoted text>

There IS controversy pertaining to both Obama's college transcripts and his passport records.
Kentucky Klown, when a few birfers invent a controversy in their minds, it's not really a controversy.

Just an FYI.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#120599 Oct 25, 2012
American Lady wrote:
President George W. Bush, as a wartime president, wasn’t bound by the usual legal constraints on surveillance and torture ...
WARTIME EXECUTIVE POWER
AND
THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY'S SURVEILLANCE AUTHORITY
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-109shrg2744...
What a fantastic reason to do away with due process!

You and your pals are traitorous dolts.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#120601 Oct 25, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
More unattributed plagiarism which moreover you don't even understand. You don't even know who Jobs was.
dude....stop eating those cat-food sandwiches and cut back on drinking your bathwater....you are going to be deported!
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#120602 Oct 25, 2012
MyTwoCents

Park Ridge, IL

#120603 Oct 25, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
A pollock trying to understand the U.S.Constitution? LMAO!!! Best you stick with the abacus as your intellect simply can't comprehend anything more advanced. Land species for sure.
Sounds fishy, dumbass

>
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#120604 Oct 25, 2012
BIRFERS YOU NEED TO SEE THIS NOW!!!

http://vimeo.com/52049073
MyTwoCents

Park Ridge, IL

#120605 Oct 25, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the one that takes exception to the law, the burden of proof is on you. Unfortunately, your stupid pollock azz cannot understand the words and the intent of the law. Basically, you're as stupid as Bladder Infection. Ignorant in all regards and respected by no one. LMAO at the loser wannabe. LOL
Grunts the ignorant fishbrain.

>
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#120606 Oct 25, 2012
LOL, Kentucky is gonna have an aneurysm.

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