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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#119011 Oct 19, 2012
Stupid Ellen1 wrote:
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E-Verify said that the number was not a valid number. And why was that so? Because when a number has been published, people cancel that number and get a new one because the old number might be used by other people to access your private data. And what happens when the old number has been cancelled and a birther puts in an E-Verify check for that number? Duh, E-Verify says that it does not exist, that it is not a valid number.
Get it? The number was cancelled before the E-Verify check. That's why E-Verify said that there was no such number.
Stupid Ellen1 wrote:
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Notice that the above comment does not respond to the facts. It just calls names. This is typical of birthers.
It was showed that an E-Verify check of a SS number would fail if the number was cancelled. The birther does not even respond to this common sense answer. Another example of why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly and the National Review all call birthers crazy.
Stupid is as stupid does.

Why is Obama still using the same number that e-verify flagged?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#119012 Oct 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Er, Rogue. So, Romney's election is now a sure thing. Okay, let's say it is. Now, seeing as he is sure to be elected, this, according to your logic on the DJIA, should give the market a spike. Don't forget, according to you, the market was down 2008 to 2010 because congress and senate were majority democrat and Obama was president. Pelosi shared the blame of course. Then it started a rally after 2010 and that was because the house was majority republican, BUT, when the DJIA did dip, and it did at times, it was Obama's fault, notwithstanding the Repub majority in the house. Well, the market's been good, or fairly good lately, and you did write that it was in anticipation of a Romney victory. Er, Rogue, did you check out the DJIA today? Hmmmm. A week's gains practically wiped out in one day, on the heels of 52-43 polls for Romney.
Anxiously awaiting your exlanation on this one.
Okay, let me 'spain this to you one more time. As the stock market was in a free fall Bernanke started QE1 (Quantitative Easement ONE) which ended in March 2010 and did boost the stock market which crashed just as soon as QE1 ended. In late 2010 (after the election) they tried in again and again, right after QE2 ended in June 2011 the stock market crashed again. Since then the market has been trending upwards, not based on wish-washy Speaker Bonehead, but because investors are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel and they can not see Obama there.
Now, there are at least six factors in the stock market and yes, the investors still see that light getting brighter but they also see a double-dip recession which is all set up and unless Mitt Romney could take over the White House TONIGHT, will still happen.
What will determine the severity of the upcoming recession is who is in the White House at the end of January. If it is, and I don't think this is very possible, Obama, it will continue for another four years! And then we will look like Greece!!!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#119014 Oct 19, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
Stupid Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
E-Verify said that the number was not a valid number. And why was that so? Because when a number has been published, people cancel that number and get a new one because the old number might be used by other people to access your private data. And what happens when the old number has been cancelled and a birther puts in an E-Verify check for that number? Duh, E-Verify says that it does not exist, that it is not a valid number.
Get it? The number was cancelled before the E-Verify check. That's why E-Verify said that there was no such number.
<quoted text>
Stupid is as stupid does.

Why is Obama still using the same number that e-verify flagged?
Answer: He is not using the same number. He is using a different number. The number that the birthers checked was cancelled. Obama is not using it any more. He is using a new number, one that has not been released.

The reason that the E-Verify check failed was because the number was cancelled. Oh, and 2+2=4.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#119016 Oct 19, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
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The above was NOT an answer to the questions asked!
I don't give a fuck what you say, PERIOD!
Still haven't found that Obama long form birth certificate with a raised visible seal, huh?
I'll take your response as a NO, you still haven't found that Obama long form birth certificate with a raised visible seal.
Do you consider those pencil marks, along with the handwritten signatures on Obama's long form birth certificate, to be the equivalent of half of the information on the document?
Just can't muster the yes or no answer that was called for, huh?
Stop posting your SPAM, as it is pure BS!
The above is spam. It is an exact copy of what was posted before.

And, notice the reaction of a birther to the facts. It is to ignore them, swear, and "don't give a (swear word deleted)..." Do you believe that this is an example of a rational, fair minded person? Would you like to be a birther, just like the person in this example?

The answer to your question about the raised seal is that it does not come out on a pdf scan of a Hawaii birth certificate. If you claim that it would be visible on a pdf scan of a Hawaii birth certificate please show an example. A scan put into pdf, not a photograph showed in jpg.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#119017 Oct 19, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
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Did you see this story?
Video:Benghazi Attack Was Botched Kidnapping To Trade Blind Sheik
http://www.giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/
I think this is very plausible.
Great video

Thanks
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#119018 Oct 19, 2012
REALCLEAR MAP: Romney takes first lead in electoral college...

Closing 26-point gap, Romney's favorability rating tops Obama's for first time...

PA SHOCK POLL: R 49% O 45%...

VA: R 50% O 47%...

FL: R 51% O 46%...

FL paper that backed Obama in '08 switches to Romney... Ahead of Election, President Stops Releasing 'Stimulus' Reports...
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#119019 Oct 19, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: He is not using the same number. He is using a different number. The number that the birthers checked was cancelled. Obama is not using it any more. He is using a new number, one that has not been released.
The reason that the E-Verify check failed was because the number was cancelled. Oh, and 2+2=4.
Lies,lies and more lies.

He used it for his 2011 taxes.

Go fish.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#119020 Oct 19, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: He is not using the same number. He is using a different number. The number that the birthers checked was cancelled. Obama is not using it any more. He is using a new number, one that has not been released.
The reason that the E-Verify check failed was because the number was cancelled. Oh, and 2+2=4.
...so I see you are the maniacal troll in this blog. Everyone has one.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#119021 Oct 19, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
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Lies,lies and more lies.
He used it for his 2011 taxes.
Go fish.
Here is Obama's 2011 Income Tax Return. Please show where there is a Social Security number on it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files...

You have claimed that he did not change the SS number. In order to do it, you said that he was using the same number as before on his 2011 returns. The posted image of his return shows that the SS number box is blank. That was done for an obvious reason. He has no desire to have the number public again.

But you claimed that Obama was using the same number as before. Where did you get that information from?

If your SS number had been published, would you continue to use it?

Here, BTW, is Mitt Romney's 2011 tax return.

http://www.mittromney.com/disclosure/mitt/tax...

Notice that he has blanked out the SS number? He did for the same reason.

But the issue remains that you have CLAIMED that Obama is continuing to use the same number, and you did so by saying that he used it on his 2011 income tax form, and there is no proof of that claim.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#119022 Oct 19, 2012
Mitt at the Al Smith....this is amazing. It is funny as it gets, and spot on!
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#119025 Oct 19, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
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Here is Obama's 2011 Income Tax Return. Please show where there is a Social Security number on it.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files...
This post gives no proof that Obama's SSN was changed as you have stated. Where is your proof that it has been changed?
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#119026 Oct 19, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
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The above is spam. It is an exact copy of what was posted before.
And, notice the reaction of a birther to the facts. It is to ignore them, swear, and "don't give a (swear word deleted)..." Do you believe that this is an example of a rational, fair minded person? Would you like to be a birther, just like the person in this example?
The answer to your question about the raised seal is that it does not come out on a pdf scan of a Hawaii birth certificate. If you claim that it would be visible on a pdf scan of a Hawaii birth certificate please show an example. A scan put into pdf, not a photograph showed in jpg.
yeah, a scanned birth certificate...scanned from a fake copy of a birth certificate, created in cyberspance that exists no where else on this planet.

Look lady, you and obama have been so roundly proven to be wrong it is not worth wasting any more time on you or this issue. I'll take over 140 years of combined, trained, competent law enforcement and forensic work on this issue's results - any day- over a troll's rants in here. In addition, their extensive knowledge and background encompass experience all over the world- from Turkey to Iran to Mexico to Europe, and here. They are experts in their fields, and know every trick and technique in the book. They have seen it all. obama's birth certificate was a crude and extensive forgery, with thousands of mistakes contained within it. Nobody has a birth certificate like his, because his doesn't exist except in cyberspace, created on a computer, with so many photo-shopped layers it is both impossible and incredible. They knew it right away.

When you combine that with his other fraudulent docs it represents a pattern on his entire life. From the time he and Bill Ayers created any document they wanted to get what they wanted, as Bill Ayers admitted to, to his phony made up books, fathers, credentials. This fabrication of everything he does is now being seen everywhere in real time in Libya, Benghazi, etc. He is lying there, and got caught once again. And by his own people in his own administration, the FBI, and the CIA. And people are dead because of his ridiculous attitude that "it is just a bump in the road", and "is not optimal that 4 people are dead." Anyone that supports him now is a fool.

Obama has been clearly and undeniably outed as the liar that he is. And people are dead. Obama is all about obama. He is a narcissist and serial liar of the first order, as well as a forger and a fraudulent president by his actions.

Just wait until the books come out about him once the election is over and people don't have tot worry about the racist PC backlash. Then his legacy will be cemented in history.

By the way....get ready for a complete left-wing meltdown as Mitt Romney wins and it sinks in. You will of course be part of that I am sure.

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#119029 Oct 19, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
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Please don't be so hard on your fellow uneducated "birther"-tea crumpets who lacked the smarts and the common sense to go to elite Eastern colleges and their professionals schools. If they had, they would be "invested in the market place" [SIC -- the poster really means The Market] making tremendous gains in this most bouyant of equity and bond markets and would "fully understand that their 401 k [SIC]."
Easy bake.
You should be ashamed of yourself, bragging about your google degree like that.
Even your fellow Obamabot, moronic friends on here know you're lying about having an education and money.
It takes at least a little intelligence for a person to be embarrassed about making a fool out of themselves, and the fact that you aren't beyond humiliated by your own dum dum posts says it all.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#119030 Oct 19, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
Very Interesting.
Lifetime Democrat Lee Iacocca Endorses Romney...
What is funny is that the Obama reelection people are still using Iacooca's endorsement from 2008 but it says he is a Republican.
http://www.republicansforobama.org/node/946

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#119031 Oct 19, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
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SADLY, the poster never made it college to study Economics with Nobel Prize laureates. He doesn't know that "uncertainty" has little to do with employment today at a time when our great corporations are sitting on HORDES of cash.
The class recognizes your idiocy as a known, scientific constant.
WE also take note of the lack of standards required to receive a Nobel.
Easy Bake is easily impressed.

"Stuff's gettin better"
2012

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#119032 Oct 19, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Not too ignorant?
"I doubt your statement will be true unless there is an assassination."
====
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Unless there is an assassination I guarantee YOU and the Class there will not be a new president until January 20, 2013, not on Nov. 7th as stated by the less than knowledgeable poster. S/he should be forgiven her/his lack of knowledge about the U.S. Constitution.
Easy Bake.
You must have yet another sock lined up for after the election.
Your guarantee would be just as valuable as one from Obama.

But I will be choosing the person you call your President for the next 8 years or so.
Plan on President Romney.

"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#119033 Oct 19, 2012
Just an observation. Anyone else noticed how the style, attitude and tactics of jacqazz, Mobarf, Stanky and smEllen are all identical? If one didn't know better they might think they had all read the same book on how to be a troll. What are the odds of 4 loons like these finding their way to the same thread? I think there is 1, maybe 2 real people behind these names and probably some other handles as well. They are trolls in the truest sense of the word.

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#119034 Oct 19, 2012
LRS wrote:
Just an observation. Anyone else noticed how the style, attitude and tactics of jacqazz, Mobarf, Stanky and smEllen are all identical? If one didn't know better they might think they had all read the same book on how to be a troll. What are the odds of 4 loons like these finding their way to the same thread? I think there is 1, maybe 2 real people behind these names and probably some other handles as well. They are trolls in the truest sense of the word.
Socks come in singles-2-paks-3-paks-up to 12 paks.
Some may have stripes while others do not, but they are all made from the same fabric.
Good observation.

"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
ehancock

Arlington, MA

#119035 Oct 19, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
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You said Obama got the number by mistake, now you say it was canceled by Obama, proving that it was allegedly issued to him.
WTF!
So you make the claim and I am supposed to disprove it???
Where is the proof that a mistake happened in regards to Obama's fraudulent SSN?
Your delusional fantasy is not proof.
E-Verify said the number was not issued to Obama.
Using your own standard, you must disprove it, right?
Obama probably got the Connecticut number by mistake. Millions of people have mistakes in their Social Security files.

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

and

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...

In addition to the enormous numbers if mistakes in SS files in general, there is the similarity of the two zip codes. Since the SS numbers were generated by the zip codes the fact that two zip codes doe Honolulu and Danbury CT are the same except for the first numeral hints at the reason for the CT number being entered was that the first numeral was not entered correctly.

Obama’s address in Hawaii was in zip code 96814, and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814.

If you claim that the CT number was not caused by an error, then it is up to you to show that Obama stole a CT number. The burden of proof is on you because I have showed that the situation could have been caused by an error and you claim that it was a theft. Well, you have to prove a claim of a crime taking place---especially when it could have been an error.

Now as to the number being cancelled. The answer is yes. Yes, Obama had the original number, the CT number cancelled, and that is why it did not come up on E-Verify. It is possible both to get a CT number by error and to cancel it.

BTW, it was claimed that Obama did not cancel it, and that he used it on his 2011 tax returns. If you made that claim, where is the proof for that?

E-Verify did not say that the number was not issued to Obama. Where did you get that idea? Please provide any facts that you can to back up your allegation. E-Verify does not "say" anything. It is not a person. It checks whether the number is in existence or not. If it is in existence it checks whether the name of the person is the same on the record of the number issued.

E-Verify did not say that the number was still in existence and was used by a person other than Obama. It simply said that the number "failed," meaning that it was not in existence. It would not be in existence if it were cancelled.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/03/more-s...

It was the birther who claimed that the number had never been issued. E-Verify simply said that the number failed, that there was no such number.

Now it is up to you. The burden of proof is on you to prove that there was a reason for the number failing E-Verify other than the number having been cancelled.

Oh, and by the way, what ever came of the claim that Obama was still using the old number because it was on Obama's 2011 tax returns? The published copy does not show any number. You have other information? Perhaps you have a source? Sure you do. Sure
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#119036 Oct 19, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Information like that causes their heads to explode.
good, I will send flowers!

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