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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#118839 Oct 19, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
They should, and make sure it NEVER happens again. Look at the damage he has done.
Obama was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices that were sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show.

Obama's birth certificate was not forged. Only birther "experts"---who have not proved that they are experts and who certainly have not showed that they are fair and impartial---have said so. Such conservative leaders as Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review do not believe them. And neither does the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona, who accepted Hawaii's confirmation that he was born there and it confirmation of all the facts on Obama's long form birth certificate, and how ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.

However, the published image of the draft card probably was forged. It was never in Obama's possession. The birther, who said that he got it from the Selective Service Administration during the Bush Administration, is the one with the means, opportunity and motive to forge it.

Since: May 10

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#118842 Oct 19, 2012
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118844 Oct 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
For Sioux.
Okay, I've corrected you on I.D. cards, on illegal aliens, but forgot to prove to you that sex changes are covered by our health care plan here. See:
www.torchlight.ca/news/funding.htm
So, go ahead and shoot, I'm ready for your name-calling and obscenity and gay innuendoes. It's what the ignorants do.
Dang jacqazz, you don't have any trouble letting go of things, do you? How far back did you go to find a post from Sioux? I haven't seen her post lately. I take it she got you good? Good for her.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118846 Oct 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
For Sioux.
Okay, I've corrected you on I.D. cards, on illegal aliens, but forgot to prove to you that sex changes are covered by our health care plan here. See:
www.torchlight.ca/news/funding.htm
So, go ahead and shoot, I'm ready for your name-calling and obscenity and gay innuendoes. It's what the ignorants do.
I wonder if sex change operations will be given priority over heart operations?
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#118847 Oct 19, 2012
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
OK thanks...I am new in here, and am usually in teh Hawaii topix...but am well versed on this issue regarding obama. Thanks for the heads up! These lefty's are a real handful ...man, they are a slimey bunch. She must be old tuna ...I can smell her from here!~
lol!
You may be new, guru (what an inappropriate moniker!) however your name-calling and foul-mouthed prose is nothing new herer in Topix, it's the "cri de guerre" of birther birfoons. You're versed in very little. Incidentally, and just so you understand,(typing this slowly so you can catch up), here is an example of points vs percentages. A number goes from 30 to 48. That is an 18-point gain, NOT an 18% gain as you believe. If you want to say it in percentages, it is a 60% gain. Get it?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118849 Oct 19, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh Jacques, this article does not mention party affiliations (they usually do not if the suspect is a Democrat) but I did look it up and Eric Hammer is a DEMOCRAT so it is same to assume that Alexander Gaguine is likewise a DEMOCRAT!!!
<quoted text>
I still contend that the vast majority of dirty politics are done by the Looney-Toonet-Lefties.
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
The U.S. territory exceeds 9 million sq km. Population, about 310 million. So, to prove that Dems commit more election fraud and damage, you cite 2 incidents of election signs destruction. Bravo.
I searched for over a half hour and I could not find ANY incident against a Democrat. NOT ONE!! And the only one I could find done apparently by a Republican/Conservative was putting "happy faces" on a Republican candidates posters.
I am fair and balanced and If I could find one done by a Republican/Conservative against a Democrat/Liberal/Progressive, I would have posted it.
Soooo, can you find one and post it for us? I have asked you before and you don't even attempt to! How come?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118850 Oct 19, 2012
Oh Jacques, the latest Gallup poll has Romney up and additional point. It is now Romney 52 v. Obama 45!!!
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#118851 Oct 19, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Dang jacqazz, you don't have any trouble letting go of things, do you? How far back did you go to find a post from Sioux? I haven't seen her post lately. I take it she got you good? Good for her.
I didn't go back, did not have to. She had, however, given a list with about 12 items on it concerning Canada, and wrong, and proven wrong on every one of them. Told her so, with ample proof, and her comeback, typical obscene name-calling LRS comeback, did not disappoint. Was she wrong? Well, she never said she was. How is it lying (both meanings of lying apply here) in that septic tank with her? Don't you long to slither back under that favourite rock of yours? Do you think that Romney would even look sideways at you or your birther ilk?
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#118853 Oct 19, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder if sex change operations will be given priority over heart operations?
Who knows, but at least 100% of Canadians are eligible for them at no cost except for taxes we pay.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#118854 Oct 19, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't give a fuck what you say, PERIOD!
Still haven't found that Obama long form birth certificate with a raised visible seal, huh?
I'll take your response as a NO, you still haven't found that Obama long form birth certificate with a raised visible seal.
Do you consider those pencil marks, along with the handwritten signatures on Obama's long form birth certificate, to be the equivalent of half of the information on the document?
Just can't muster the yes or no answer that was called for, huh?
Stop posting your SPAM, as it is pure BS!
Re: "I don't give a..."

For the benefit of any person who may be visiting this site to determine the facts, notice the reaction of a birther to the facts. It is to ignore them, swear, and say "I don't give a..."

Do you believe that this is an example of a rational, fair minded person? Would you like to be a birther, just like the person in this example? Or, does this example confirm what Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review said about birthers: That they are crazy.

For the benefit of the person who posted. I do not post for you. I post for any person who may be visiting this site to actually determine the facts.

The gist of my earlier reply is that the pencil notes and the signatures may be what Fukino was referring to, or she may simply have misremembered the details.

However, she was not alone in saying that she had seen Obama's long form birth certificate. At least two others said that they saw it: Registrar Onaka and the current Director of Health, Fuddy. For the birth certificate not to be in the files and not to say that Obama was born in Hawaii, all three of them would have to be lying.

And one other person must have seen it, the clerk who filled in the computer form that generated the long-form birth certificate. That is done by the clerk looking at the document in the files and entering that information onto the computer form. Thus there must be a document in the files and it must say that Obama was born in Hawaii. Recently Onaka confirmed that again, saying that he had again compared Obama's birth certificate with the document in the files and that the facts MATCH.

Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate (which is sufficient, it is the legal birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their US passports every year), and his long form birth certificate, and the officials in Hawaii of both parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent it to him and that ALL the facts on it are correct, and this is further confirmed by the public Index Data file and by the birth notices sent to the newspapers of Hawaii by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961.

The fact that the raised seal does not show up on a computer scan of the document put into PDF does not disprove:(1) the short form birth certificate; (2) the long form birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials and the Index Data; (3) the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961; (4) the fact that Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country and the notion that Obama's mother would have traveled thousands of miles (much less tens of thousands to Kenya, which has said, BTW, that Obama was not born there) ALONE is highly unlikely.

Once again, the fact that a scan put into PDF does not pick up the raised seal does not disprove the facts above.

“GONE FISHING”

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#118855 Oct 19, 2012
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE TEABAG

Joe Teabagger gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot
full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for
minimum water quality standards.

He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His
medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure
their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers
medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their
employers for paid medical insurance, now joe gets it too. He prepares
his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. joe's bacon is safe to
eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing
industry.

joe Teabagger takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is
properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents
because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting
on his body and how much it contained. Joe T dresses, walks outside and
takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree-
hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our
air.

He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to
work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation
fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public
transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a
contributor.

Joe T begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay,
medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some
liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.
joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't
want his employees to call the union.

If joe Teabagger is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker
compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think
he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some
bills. joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some
liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who
ruined the banking system before the depression.
joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below
market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that
joe T and the government would be better off if he was educated and
earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe Teabagger is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at
his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to
dad's; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal
fought for car safety standards.

He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live
in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers
didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electric until
some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and
demanded rural electrification.(Those rural Republicans would still
be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could
take care of himself so joe T wouldn't have to. After his visit with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good (He doesn't tell joe teabagger that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day)joe T agrees, "We don't need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I'm a self-made man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have."

Proving
"The only people who don't want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide"
Barack Hussein Obama
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118856 Oct 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't go back, did not have to. She had, however, given a list with about 12 items on it concerning Canada, and wrong, and proven wrong on every one of them. Told her so, with ample proof, and her comeback, typical obscene name-calling LRS comeback, did not disappoint. Was she wrong? Well, she never said she was. How is it lying (both meanings of lying apply here) in that septic tank with her? Don't you long to slither back under that favourite rock of yours? Do you think that Romney would even look sideways at you or your birther ilk?
Actually, I think Romney would sit down and have a conversation with me along with many, many others. See, he's not worried about hiding something from the people like Omama. If he had time I think he'd sit and talk with most anyone who a genuine concern for America's future. BTW, I don't have a septic tank nor did I slither out from under a rock, I've been standing in your face from the beginning. More of your delusions on display. Your ego is your problem jacqazz as it requires daily petting. Get over yourself already. You're nothing special.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118857 Oct 19, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Re: "I don't give a..."
For the benefit of any person who may be visiting this site to determine the facts, notice the reaction of a birther to the facts. It is to ignore them, swear, and say "I don't give a..."
Do you believe that this is an example of a rational, fair minded person? Would you like to be a birther, just like the person in this example? Or, does this example confirm what Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review said about birthers: That they are crazy.
For the benefit of the person who posted. I do not post for you. I post for any person who may be visiting this site to actually determine the facts.
The gist of my earlier reply is that the pencil notes and the signatures may be what Fukino was referring to, or she may simply have misremembered the details.
However, she was not alone in saying that she had seen Obama's long form birth certificate. At least two others said that they saw it: Registrar Onaka and the current Director of Health, Fuddy. For the birth certificate not to be in the files and not to say that Obama was born in Hawaii, all three of them would have to be lying.
And one other person must have seen it, the clerk who filled in the computer form that generated the long-form birth certificate. That is done by the clerk looking at the document in the files and entering that information onto the computer form. Thus there must be a document in the files and it must say that Obama was born in Hawaii. Recently Onaka confirmed that again, saying that he had again compared Obama's birth certificate with the document in the files and that the facts MATCH.
Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate (which is sufficient, it is the legal birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their US passports every year), and his long form birth certificate, and the officials in Hawaii of both parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent it to him and that ALL the facts on it are correct, and this is further confirmed by the public Index Data file and by the birth notices sent to the newspapers of Hawaii by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961.
The fact that the raised seal does not show up on a computer scan of the document put into PDF does not disprove:(1) the short form birth certificate; (2) the long form birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials and the Index Data; (3) the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961; (4) the fact that Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country and the notion that Obama's mother would have traveled thousands of miles (much less tens of thousands to Kenya, which has said, BTW, that Obama was not born there) ALONE is highly unlikely.
Once again, the fact that a scan put into PDF does not pick up the raised seal does not disprove the facts above.
You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped you in the face! Facts? Laughable.
spud

United States

#118859 Oct 19, 2012
Obama obviously doesn't like this country. He looks out of place in a red white and blue environment. I can picture him wrapped in some red yellow and green flag or something like that. He loves the power and the attention that comes with being president. His wife loves her unlimited vacation tab and her servants. They're on the ultimate power trip. That's why they will never come clean with his birthplace.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118860 Oct 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Rogue, how do you know that Republicans are not trashing their own signs to attract sympathy, and therefore, votes? It's not a bad strategy, as destroying the opponents' signs is very counter-productive, no? As I just said, it could easily produce the opposite reaction, namely, attract voters.
A good question and I can not 100% account for each and every case of vandalization but posts 118806 and 807 the perps were either identified as a Democrat or a supporter of a Democrat and it is safe to assume that the individuals who were putting "happy faces" on a Republican's signs were also supporters/Republicans.
Now, in the few cases of "racist" signs at TEA Party events the pictures seem to be plants. Most likely by Libtards to. You have a picture (#1) in this Huffington Post picture in which the "TEA Partier" is at the back of the protest, he his showing his sign to the rear (we have no idea what the other side says) which is deliberately facing the cameraman!!! To me it looks like he is a LIBERAL PLANT.
Same goes for picture #6. The other eight pictures are not racist (except in the sick minds of Libtards). Now this picture is, IMHO, RACIST but we do not know who made or posted it.
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2011/04/22/obama-a...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118861 Oct 19, 2012
Now I have been to a half-dozen TEA Party events to include two at Lafayette Square across from the White House and at those two we had counter-protesters. I have never done a counter protest myself and I do not know anyone who has.
By in large Conservatives respect other's First Amendment rights and it is the Liberals who are intolerant of other's points of view. And the further left you are, the more bigoted you are!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118862 Oct 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Who knows, but at least 100% of Canadians are eligible for them at no cost except for taxes we pay.
Ya know ten years ago Cosmo magazine survey 1,000 men and women and asked then what they would like to do if they were the opposite sex for the day and 100% of the women, who would be men for the day, wanted to have sex with another woman where was 100% of the men, who would be women for the day, also said they wanted to have sex with another woman. You see, no real man wants to get porked by another man regardless of what body he is in!

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#118863 Oct 19, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
But before his fatal first debate, and when Obama was way ahead and sure to win, you guys were already shouting fraud.
Obama was a fraud when he ran for Senate in Illinois, Sherlock.
That's a lot of years to hold onto lies and a phony made up life.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118864 Oct 19, 2012
keyedup wrote:
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE TEABAG
Joe Teabagger gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards.
He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His
medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.
All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers
medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their
employers for paid medical insurance, now joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. joe's bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
joe Teabagger takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe T dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree-hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a
contributor.
Joe T begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay,
medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If joe Teabagger is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
......
Joe Teabagger is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dad's; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards.
He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live
in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.(Those rural Republicans would still be sitting in the dark)
He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so joe T wouldn't have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good (He doesn't tell joe teabagger that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day)joe T agrees, "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have." Proving "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide"
Barack Hussein Obama
Tell me, who should pay for you auto insurance? Should someone with a clean driving record have to pay the same high cost of auto insurance as a repeat DUI offender with multiple accidents on his record?
How about home insurance? Should WE pay for everyone's home insurance? Then why should I pay for someone else's health care?

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#118865 Oct 19, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Dang jacqazz, you don't have any trouble letting go of things, do you? How far back did you go to find a post from Sioux? I haven't seen her post lately. I take it she got you good? Good for her.
Thank you. I have been working.
I have to work today too.
I may post later, but I have seen a huge drop in posts from the left lately.
I wonder why that is.

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