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“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#118669 Oct 18, 2012
WILLARD’S BIGGEST HURDLE
Who dares to answer the questions that are most troubling to Willard when he asks,“Are you better off today than you were four years ago:”
1. The United States equity markets have gone up 121% during the administration of Barack HUSSEIN Obama. YES or NO? This is largest gain during the first term of any American president. YES or NO? This percentage gain is more than SEVEN and ONE-HALF times greater than during the first term of R.Reagan. YES or NO.
2. The creditworthiness of the United States Treasury has been at its highest level throughout 2012. YES or NO? During the fourth year of R.Reagan’s first term the creditworthiness of the United States was more than FOUR and ONE-HALF times worse than it is at present.
3. The marginal federal income tax rate for a joint filing couple with $66,000 of taxable income is the lowest it has been since the implementation of Amendment XVI. YES or NO? This rate is one-third of the marginal federal income tax rate for a comparable couple during the fourth year of R.Reagan’s first term. YES or NO?
4. For most of 2012, the inflation rate has averaged less than 2.2% per month. YES or NO? During the fourth year of R.Reagan’s first term the inflation rate averaged more than 4.3% per month. YES or NO?
5. Willard is substantially better off than he was four years ago based on gains in excess of $100 million in his stock and bond portfolio as the result of the current administration’s economic policies. YES or NO?
Please help our candidate out. How should Willard respond to these hard economic facts?
ehancock

Arlington, MA

#118670 Oct 18, 2012
Re: "Re: "The "9" and several others were not mistakes, the mistake made was when the forger imported the term AFRICAN for obama's race (impossible because there is no African race, "

The meaning of the numeric code "9" was "Other Non-White. That is a correct code for the word "African"--which has been pointed out was allowed and was normal for African exchange students at the time.

The meaning that Arapio and Zullo claimed that the former registrar in Hawaii told them, and also claimed was in the book was "not filled in." But that is wrong. It meant "other non-white"--meaning that the section WAS filled in.

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

and

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#118671 Oct 18, 2012
You know the honeymoon is over, when the comedians start.

The liberals are asking us to give Obama time.
We agree...and think 25 to life would be
appropriate.
--Jay Leno

America needs Obama-care like Nancy
Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno

Q: Have you heard about McDonald's'
new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you
has to pay for it.
--Conan O'Brien

Q: What does Barack Obama call
lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
--Jay Leno

Q: What's the difference between
Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers,
and threats to society. The other is for housing
prisoners.
--David Letterman

Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were
on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it
started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America !
--Jimmy Fallon

Q: What's the difference between
Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
--Jimmy Kimmel

Q: What was the most positive result
of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper
stickers off the road.
--David Letterman

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#118672 Oct 18, 2012
The LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you're an author of fiction? Too damn funny Mobarf. FOS!
So you admit you do not know the appropriate response.

It's a straightforward matter of patent law.
LRS wrote:
Mobarf, AND you're supposed to be the patent consultant? Go work in your lab. Frickin' idiot.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
HIJ Corp., just patented an oilfield lubricant, claiming a mixture, comprised of components A, B, and C. WXY Corp patented a superior formula, claiming a formula consisting of A, B, C, and D. D is a new compound of which WXY also holds a “composition of matter” patent – they have patented the compound itself. Your oil drilling company is struggling on a new critical project. WXY’s formulation solves all of your problems. HIJ’s formulation does not solve your problems. You hear through the grapevine that your main competitor, Evil Empire, Inc., is engaged in negotiations for an exclusive license to WXY’s formulation. If Evil Empire secures the license and uses the new formulation, it will most likely put you out of business. John Smith, CEO of WXY calls you on the phone and asks if you are interested in an exclusive license. He is eccentric and only wishes to license one company with an exclusive license. You can beat Evil Empire’s price, and they cannot afford to top your best offer. All you have to do is beat their offer, but WXY’s asking price is all you can afford. Your team of lawyers correctly informs you that both of WXY’s patent are “bulletproof” and can withstand any validity challenge in the federal courts. What is your response to John Smith’s offer?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#118673 Oct 18, 2012
I am not sure why some of the “birthers” are pursuing their inane argument regarding JURISDICTION under the Constitution. It obviously has nothing to do with the issue of President Obama’s natural-born citizenship.
=
Here is the simple response to any question about jurisdiction under our sacred Constitution as applied on a daily basis without controversy.
Any person who is involved as a party to any matter being tried in federal court is under the jurisdiction of the United States of America.
Jurisdiction is the very first element that must be pleaded in any law suit – civil or otherwise. Jurisdiction may not be waived, nor be it be voluntarily conferred. Either the party is subject to the jurisdiction of the federal court under our sacred Constitution or they are not. Thus, anyone who is a party to any matter being tried in federal court is under the jurisdiction of the United States of America.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118674 Oct 18, 2012
Romney’s Military Advisory Council has more than 300 retired general officers Posted By Josh Rogin; October 17, 2012

The Mitt Romney campaign announced Wednesday it has stood up a Military Advisory Council made up of more than 300 retired generals and admirals who are ready to do battle for the Republican nominee.

"I am deeply honored to have the support of so many of our most accomplished military leaders," Romney said in a statement. "Together we will restore our military might and ensure that America can defend and protect our interests, our allies, and our people, both at home and abroad. I will never forget that the greatest responsibility of an American president is in exercising the role of commander-in-chief. That role is sacred, and when I am president, I will never put my own political interests ahead of our military and our men and women in uniform."

Among the better-known military men endorsing Romney today are Army Gen. Tommy Franks, the key architect of the military plan to oust Saddam Hussein, former Commandant of the Marine Corps Gen. James Conway, former Pacific Command chief Adm. Timothy Keating, and former Joint Chiefs Chairman Army Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was the top military officer at the end of the Clinton administration and who led the planning for the 1999 intervention in Kosovo. Shelton endorsed Hillary Clinton for president in 2008.

"I'm proud to be supporting Mitt Romney in this critical election about our nation's future," Franks said. "Governor Romney is committed to restoring America's leadership role in the world. Instead of playing politics with our military, he will strengthen our defense posture by reversing the president's devastating defense cuts. The fact of the matter is that we cannot afford another four years of feckless foreign policy. We need level-headed leadership which will protect our interests and defend our values with clarity and without apology."

"I consider the unprecedented national debt amongst the five greatest threats to the security of our great nation," said Conway. "And yet, I see no indication the current administration, if re-elected, is intent on changing that trajectory. Clearly defense should bear a portion of the burden in order to regain control of our debt, but the idea of massive military cuts --at a time of increased global instability -- should not even be in the cards. As I listen to Mitt Romney, I am convinced that he 'gets it'."

Romney campaign aides told The Cable that the council isn't set to have any formal meetings, but that each member has expressed his willingness to endorse the governor and provide expert national security advice if called upon to do so.

"The great thing about the list is the size of it," one aide said. "Just an enormous outpouring of support for the governor. And with it comes a broad range of expertise."

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#118675 Oct 18, 2012
There is no point in belaboring any discussion regarding the authenticity of President Obama's purported state-issued birth documents until the poster establishes where our sacred Constitution, any statute, any controlling case law, or legal tradition requires a state-issued birth document to establish presidential eligibility.
To the knowledge of the Class state-issued birth documents have never been held to have ANY BEARING on presidential eligibility under present law.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118678 Oct 18, 2012
How insulting the New York Times is to Jewish people to describe them as "confused". How patronizing!
Well, they should have been worried four years ago when Obama was sucking up to the Muslims while ignoring Israel!!!

New York Times October 18, 2012
On Florida’s Jewish Question By SHMUEL ROSNER

BOCA RATON, Florida — I got my first first-hand lesson on the technicalities of Florida voting among a small group of fellow Jews in a classroom here on Tuesday. It was an improvised seminar of sorts: a few friends sitting together to make sure they were on the same page and ready. What’s on the ballot, and how does one make sure to vote for the people and the causes one believes in?

You might be thinking: Voting 101 for Floridian Jews? Now? Now, those Jews are learning how to vote properly? Twelve years late? Twelve years after George W. Bush narrowly beat Al Gore in Florida to win the presidency?

No one knows for sure if confused Jewish voters contributed significantly to the 2000 election debacle. All these years later, there’s still no agreement about what happened here back then.
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#118679 Oct 18, 2012
Guru wrote:
Here is obama's new RETIREMENT gift house in Kailua, Hawaii...$35Million dollars! WITH PICS
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/secret-retirement-...
Rogue floated the same BS. When he found out he had been hoodwinked again by the supermarket tabloids, he called it a red herring. Could you be a tad more original?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#118684 Oct 18, 2012
American Lady wrote:
You know the honeymoon is over, when the comedians start.
The liberals are asking us to give Obama time.
We agree...and think 25 to life would be
appropriate.
--Jay Leno
America needs Obama-care like Nancy
Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno
Q: Have you heard about McDonald's'
new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you
has to pay for it.
--Conan O'Brien
Q: What does Barack Obama call
lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
--Jay Leno
Q: What's the difference between
Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers,
and threats to society. The other is for housing
prisoners.
--David Letterman
Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were
on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it
started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America !
--Jimmy Fallon
Q: What's the difference between
Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
--Jimmy Kimmel
Q: What was the most positive result
of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper
stickers off the road.
--David Letterman
Thank you for this post, rouge.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#118685 Oct 18, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
"I consider the unprecedented national debt amongst the five greatest threats to the security of our great nation," said Conway, former Commandant of the Marine Corps.
SADLY, the general has passed as many credit hours of macroeconomics as rouge the rube: NONE.

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#118686 Oct 18, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
WILLARD’S BIGGEST HURDLE
Who dares to answer the questions that are most troubling to Willard when he asks,“Are you better off today than you were four years ago:”
1. The United States equity markets have gone up 121% during the administration of Barack HUSSEIN Obama. YES or NO? This is largest gain during the first term of any American president. YES or NO? This percentage gain is more than SEVEN and ONE-HALF times greater than during the first term of R.Reagan. YES or NO.
2. The creditworthiness of the United States Treasury has been at its highest level throughout 2012. YES or NO? During the fourth year of R.Reagan’s first term the creditworthiness of the United States was more than FOUR and ONE-HALF times worse than it is at present.
3. The marginal federal income tax rate for a joint filing couple with $66,000 of taxable income is the lowest it has been since the implementation of Amendment XVI. YES or NO? This rate is one-third of the marginal federal income tax rate for a comparable couple during the fourth year of R.Reagan’s first term. YES or NO?
4. For most of 2012, the inflation rate has averaged less than 2.2% per month. YES or NO? During the fourth year of R.Reagan’s first term the inflation rate averaged more than 4.3% per month. YES or NO?
5. Willard is substantially better off than he was four years ago based on gains in excess of $100 million in his stock and bond portfolio as the result of the current administration’s economic policies. YES or NO?
Please help our candidate out. How should Willard respond to these hard economic facts?
Poor Easy bake.
Romney has already won.
We're just going through the motions now.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#118687 Oct 18, 2012
President Starky wrote:
fricken genius's.
Buddy!
Using an apostrophe is the new uneducated way to create a plural.

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#118688 Oct 18, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Using an apostrophe is the new uneducated way to create a plural.
No easy bake, you just missed the lesson.
Back in the corner now.

Start practicing saying "President Romney"

"Stuff's gettin better"
2012

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#118690 Oct 18, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Those things are possible, as is a US Constitutional amendment to overturn a US Supreme Court ruling, but they will never happen.
Never?? Oh your simple mind..

We have "never" passed an Amendment to change a ruling from the SCOTUS?

WE have "NEVER" had a case of Jury Nullification

We have "NEVER" had a state resolution passed calling for nullification?

We have "NEVER" had a Supreme Court Justice impeached?

You sure do try to sound smart..

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#118691 Oct 18, 2012
akpilot wrote:
"Oh puppet, you have such a simple mind..
"Let's see:
"The people: They could choose while sitting on a jury to not enforce a law previously deemed lawful by the SCOTUS through Jury Nullification.
"The State: The State could choose to nullify a law previously ruled Constitutional but the SCOTUS- Just ask Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.
"The Congress: They could leave the law on the books and impeach the entire SCOTUS if they so chose.
"The Executive: The President could choose not to enforce a ruling by the SCOTUS
"And on and on.. You seem to think the SCOTUS is our new king, they are not. The reality of the matter is they were designed to be the weakest branch of the Federal Government. All they can really do is issue opinions, they have no enforcement authority."
====
wojar wrote:
I'm sorry, BirfoonBoy, but UR off on a tangent.
Insofar as the President and Congress are concerned, neither are vested with the judicial Power of the United States, and despite your childish fantasy impeachment of the entire court, such action would not overturn a USSC ruling. Also, the President cannot overturn a USSC ruling either.
Your birfoon buddy said:“[A]fter investigation it was found the United States had no authority to make citizens of those temporarily residing in the United States who owed only a 'temporary allegiance.'”
Aside from the fact that the US does not make citizens of temporary alien residents, the simple fact is that citizenship cases are heard in administrative law hearings which are subject to judicial review. Jury nullification is not possible as there is no jury. Duh!
Grow up!
shot-down pilot's legal reasoning capsulizes why the "birthers" are ZERO - 106 (or whatever the latest number is).
Because the first poster admits that he knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about The Law (he cannot name even one legal text or treatise he has ever studied), it is not surprising that he doesn't know that a "nullification verdict" will not be entered into judgment on the basis of judgment N.O.V. It is the judgment that counts, not the verdict. How pathetic to be as ignorant of The Law as the shot-down pilot is.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118692 Oct 18, 2012
ehancock wrote:
Re: "The "9" and several others were not mistakes, the mistake made was when the forger imported the term AFRICAN for obama's race (impossible because there is no African race, "
There is no American race either but you are allowed to enter "American" as your race in Hawaii, and several people did. And there is no "Italian" or "Japanese" race either, but you are allowed to use those terms. In fact, you are allowed and in 1961 were allowed to use any word that you wanted to describe your race.
NO one stood over you and told you what word to use, and there was no list of races that you had to use. So, what was the word that African exchange students normally used to describe their race in the 1960s? Answer: African. So Obama's father could, and did, use it.
Re Arapaio/Zullo. They have been proven to be liars.
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...
and
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...
It is clear that rational conservatives do not believe the "birth certificate was forged" claims. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review certainly do not.
And the conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm specified facts on Obama's birth certificate. Hawaii did, stating that it compared the image of Obama's birth certificate with the file copy (which is an additional confirmation that there was a file copy BTW) and that Obama was born there and that the facts match. The secretary of state of Arizona accepted this confirmation and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November. This indicates that he does not believe the claims that the birth certificate is forged (including those of Sheriff Joe) and that he does believe the officials in Hawaii.
Re: "EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS HERE....DOZENS OF DOCUMENTS, FORENSICS, LAW ENFORCEMENT DOCUMENTS, ETC ON OBAMA'S FORGERIES. FROM THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, TO THE SELECTIVE SERVICE CARD, ETC. ALL SHOWN
http://www.wnd.com/ ...
...it doesn't get better than this. All of Eleen's posts are easily debunked right here by law enforcement officials. Enjoy! "
All the articles are based on the claims of birther "experts"---who have not proved that they are really experts, and who certainly have not shown that they are fair and impartial. These are two reasons why Ann Coulter, the National Review and the Conservative Secretary of state of Arizona do not believe them.
In short: PDF has layers because PDF is supposed to have layers. There is no "Kerning"--manual typewriters skip. Different fonts--no, just the way that a PDF scan of a document on security paper picks up and depicts the letters.
There are many real experts who say that there is nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, including John Woodman, who happens to be a member of the Tea Party and who dislikes Obama and Obama's policies, but shows that the birther "experts" are wrong. They also include Ivan Zatkovich, who was hired by WND to examine the image of Obama's birth certificate, and when he submitted his report that there was nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, WND simply did not publish it.
Obama's mother lived in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that she went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961---and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the "born in Kenya" claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy
lol...all of that blah blah ...for what? You are losing and are about to lose BIG!

Gallup:

Romney 53%
obama 45%
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118693 Oct 18, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
So you admit you do not know the appropriate response.
It's a straightforward matter of patent law.
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
It's a straightforward load of BS just like all the garbage you post. You sound desperate Mobarf. LMAO
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118694 Oct 18, 2012
ehancock wrote:
Re: "Re: "The "9" and several others were not mistakes, the mistake made was when the forger imported the term AFRICAN for obama's race (impossible because there is no African race, "
The meaning of the numeric code "9" was "Other Non-White. That is a correct code for the word "African"--which has been pointed out was allowed and was normal for African exchange students at the time.
The meaning that Arapio and Zullo claimed that the former registrar in Hawaii told them, and also claimed was in the book was "not filled in." But that is wrong. It meant "other non-white"--meaning that the section WAS filled in.
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...
and
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...
boy, you make up more lies than obama does!

19 days to go lefty, then we are going to SLAM your boy outta office!

...and no, you will NOT be invited to the party!
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118695 Oct 18, 2012
ehancock wrote:
Re: "Re: "The "9" and several others were not mistakes, the mistake made was when the forger imported the term AFRICAN for obama's race (impossible because there is no African race, "
The meaning of the numeric code "9" was "Other Non-White. That is a correct code for the word "African"--which has been pointed out was allowed and was normal for African exchange students at the time.
The meaning that Arapio and Zullo claimed that the former registrar in Hawaii told them, and also claimed was in the book was "not filled in." But that is wrong. It meant "other non-white"--meaning that the section WAS filled in.
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...
and
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...
"ehancock" huh? mind if I just call you COCK? that would be more appropriate.-lol!

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