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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#118647 Oct 18, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, you don't think so? Birtherism started in the Democrat Party and betyween them and enough Independents who feel the same way, Obama is toast!
<quoted text>
Polls have indicated that about half of all voters question Obama's NBC status ...... but the Democrats who question it just don't care because he is their guy. But there are many Blue Dog Democrats who will vote Romney along with the greatest percentage of Jewish voters since Ronald Reagan.
Jews make up about 4% of the voters in New York, New Jersey and Florida but they make up 7-8% of the voters who actually vote in those states and that will be the straw that broke Obama's back here in Florida!
Re: "Polls have indicated that about half of all voters question Obama's NBC status."

But does it affect their vote? What percent of the 50% will vote for Obama despite their questions? More critically, what percent of the independents who have questions about Obama's NBC status will vote for him anyway?

And, guess what, the 50% who said that they had questions about Obama's status. There is one thing that we do not know about them. Perhaps they question the status of Mitt Romney too. That question was not asked (the pollsters are not too smart).

So you think, but you do not know, that the NBC status question will affect the election. But will it? Not likely. Its' the other way around, the people who do not like Obama for whatever reason say that they question his place of birth---their not liking is what is causing the questioning.

Some percentage of Americans (I can't find polls in 2004 or before) believed that George W. Bush planned the attack on 911. Did that affect the 2004 election? Probably not.
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#118648 Oct 18, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
She indeed does not belong to the body politic of Brazil. That's news?
While in Brazil, she is under WHICH COUNTRY'S JURISDICTION?
A) The US
B) Ireland
C) Germany
D) Brazil
While in Brazil, her mother is under WHICH COUNTRY'S JURISDICTION?
A) The US
B) Ireland
C) Germany
D) Brazil
While in Brazil, her father is under WHICH COUNTRY'S JURISDICTION?
A) The US
B) Ireland
C) Germany
D) Brazil
No legal scholar am I, but I'll answer that, as it so easy. No one need be Brazilian in all 3 cases. Just being an American in Brazil suffices for this scenario. And while being an American and visiting Brazil, said American is totally under Brasilian juridisction. The Brazilians can do anything they like to the American citizen, arrest, jail him/her and throw away the key and in spite of existing extradition agreement and reciprocal consular protocols, there is nothing, zilch, that the U.S. govt can do for him/her if Brazil so chooses to ignore all conventions. Only solution is to go to war and that is a very unlikely scenario.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118649 Oct 18, 2012
Good ole Joe "The Mouth" Biden asked a group, which included San Fran Nan and Dirty Hair Reid if they knew anyone who had been injured in Afghanistan and everyone raised they hands. And then he asked them if anyone knew anyone who knew anyone injured in Iran and again everyone raised their hands!!!
I will let you think about that for a a moment!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#118650 Oct 18, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
She indeed does not belong to the body politic of Brazil. That's news?
While in Brazil, she is under WHICH COUNTRY'S JURISDICTION?
A) The US
B) Ireland
C) Germany
D) Brazil
While in Brazil, her mother is under WHICH COUNTRY'S JURISDICTION?
A) The US
B) Ireland
C) Germany
D) Brazil
While in Brazil, her father is under WHICH COUNTRY'S JURISDICTION?
A) The US
B) Ireland
C) Germany
D) Brazil
ding...ding....ding....

Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#118651 Oct 18, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
Still haven't found that Obama long form birth certificate with a raised visible seal, huh?
Do you consider those pencil marks, along with the handwritten signatures on Obama's long form birth certificate, to be the equivalent of half of the information on the document?
Half was roughly half. The pencil marks were handwritten, as were the signatures. More importantly, Fukino is only one of the three officials who stated that they saw the birth certificate in the files.

Obama's birth certificate exists, and the officials in Hawaii in fact stated that they sent a copy to Obama, and at least one reporter said that she had felt the seal. The embossed seal simply does not come out in a PDF scan.

We know that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate in several ways.

The first is the short-form birth certificate. It is generated by a clerk in the Hawaii DOH reading the information in the files and entering it in a computer form. For that to happen there has to be a document in the files. The clerk would have had to have been lying, and the confirmations by the Republican officials in 2008 would have to be lies as well--and why would they do that for a Democrat?

And, we know that Obama had a birth certificate in 1961 from the notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in that year.

We know that only the DOH could send those notices in three ways. First because the representative of the newspapers said so, second because the representative of the DOH said so and third because the section of the newspaper was called "Health Bureau Statistic"---which obviously meant that the facts in it came from the Health Bureau, the DOH. In 1961, the DOH was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children born outside of Hawaii, and it only sent birth notices to the papers for children born in Hawaii.

Some birthers claim that in 1961 Hawaii granted birth certificates to anyone whose relatives applied, but the officials in Hawaii have denied that was the case. They insist that the law in 1961 did not allow the DOH to issue a birth certificate that said "born in Honolulu (or any Hawaii location)" unless the child was actually born in that location and that there was evidence of it. And, you know, there are hundreds of thousands of people who were alive and living in Hawaii in 1961, and after that statement was made not one of them wrote to the newspapers or blogged that it was a lie.

So we know that Obama had a Hawaii birth certificate.

Your claim is that although this certificate exists and although the officials in Hawaii stated that they sent both the short form and the long form versions of it to him, and despite a reporter having said that she felt the seal on it--that both the officials in Hawaii and the reporter are lying because the embossed seal does not show up on a PDF scan. Well, prove your claim. Show a scanned Hawaii BC in PDF with a raised seal on it.

Recently the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm other facts on his published birth certificate. Hawaii did, and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona accepted it as evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.

Obama's mother lived in Hawaii. Obama's father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961---and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the "born in Kenya" claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet you and other birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118652 Oct 18, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You forget the pencil marks. They were handwritten. More importantly, Fukino was just ONE of the three Hawaii officials that we know all of whom have seen the original birth certificate in the file. Fukino, Onaka and the current Director of Health, Fuddy. All of whom say that the is a birth certificate in the file and that it shows that Obama was born in Hawaii.
In addition, there is a fourth official, whose name is not known, the clerk who filled in the computer form that generated the short-form birth certificate. That is done by a clerk looking at the document in the files and filling in the facts on the computer form. If there were no original document in the files, that could not be done. And if the original document did not show that Obama was born in Honolulu, the clerk could not enter "Honolulu." But she or he did enter Honolulu.
So we have at least four witnesses, and there is the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about a birth recently in Hawaii to a woman named Stanley.( http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/htt... ).
In addition to this evidence, there is the birth notices that were sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961. Only the DOH could send notices to the section of the papers called "Health Bureau Statistics," where Obama's notice appeared, and the DOH only sent those notices for births that it had issued birth certificates for, and it only issued birth certificates for births in Hawaii. Hawaii law did not allow birth notices to be issued for births outside of Hawaii until 1982.
In addition to this proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, there is absolutely no proof that he was born in any foreign country.
It should be obvious that a child born outside of the USA requires either a US visa on a foreign passport or to be entered on the mother’s US passport to get to the USA. This is not only the case now, it was the case in the 1960s as well.
Those documents or the applications for them would still exist and would have been found easily IF Obama was born outside of the USA. But no such document has been found. The Kenyan government, btw, has stated that it did an investigation of the claims that Obama was born there, and it determined that the claims are not true.
I didn't forget the pencil marks. Neither did Arpaio and Zullo. They were there because all of the docs in HI were checked that way then. They even found the lady who did it or was in charge of it. She is 90 years old now. She said that they did that to double check everything, and it was done manually. She said two people would go over the document, and check each other. And she stated emphatically that they did not make mistakes. The "9" and several others were not mistakes, the mistake made was when the forger imported the term AFRICAN for obama's race (impossible because there is no African race, Africa is a continent, not a race, and white people are born in Africa too). The forger did not know what the pencil marks represented, that is clear because there are several mistakes. Vera K Lee I believe is the lady's name or that is close. Easy to look up. I think she signed it VKLee...again, easy to go back and look.

No, the pencil marks were standard and are on all original birth certificates in Hawaii, or were then. That was standard practice there.

This has all been recorded and shown on WND. Don't take my word for it, check it yourself. Forgive my typos, I am not checking for them.

...this is too easy, got anything else for me?
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#118654 Oct 18, 2012
This is for Rogue. It has to do with underestimating your opponent, as was done at the Bay of Pigs, in Indochina, Afghanistan and Iraq. The consequences can be soooo costly, right?

Obama learned that lesson the hard way. He underestimated Romney the night of that first debate. He had a big lead nationally, and firmly held all swing states. He didn't prep. Was taken aback when Romney changed his tune 180 degrees. He was only prepared for the same old routine from Romney and got creamed. Gotta hand it to Romney. That first debate could very well cost Obama the election, which up to then he had in his pocket, with what appeared to be an insurmountable lead of 6 to 8 points, with 65% of the women for him. Yes, Rogue, he overestimated his standing among the electorate and, biggest sin of all, underestimated his adversary, and he may just pay a very high price for it. The 2nd debate, however well he did, was too little too late. Same for third, he'd have to win by 90-10, and Romnney's not gonna let that happen. Too bad.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118655 Oct 18, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Half was roughly half. The pencil marks were handwritten, as were the signatures. More importantly, Fukino is only one of the three officials who stated that they saw the birth certificate in the files.
Obama's birth certificate exists, and the officials in Hawaii in fact stated that they sent a copy to Obama, and at least one reporter said that she had felt the seal. The embossed seal simply does not come out in a PDF scan.
We know that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate in several ways.
The first is the short-form birth certificate. It is generated by a clerk in the Hawaii DOH reading the information in the files and entering it in a computer form. For that to happen there has to be a document in the files. The clerk would have had to have been lying, and the confirmations by the Republican officials in 2008 would have to be lies as well--and why would they do that for a Democrat?
And, we know that Obama had a birth certificate in 1961 from the notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in that year.
We know that only the DOH could send those notices in three ways. First because the representative of the newspapers said so, second because the representative of the DOH said so and third because the section of the newspaper was called "Health Bureau Statistic"---which obviously meant that the facts in it came from the Health Bureau, the DOH. In 1961, the DOH was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children born outside of Hawaii, and it only sent birth notices to the papers for children born in Hawaii.
Some birthers claim that in 1961 Hawaii granted birth certificates to anyone whose relatives applied, but the officials in Hawaii have denied that was the case. They insist that the law in 1961 did not allow the DOH to issue a birth certificate that said "born in Honolulu (or any Hawaii location)" unless the child was actually born in that location and that there was evidence of it. And, you know, there are hundreds of thousands of people who were alive and living in Hawaii in 1961, and after that statement was made not one of them wrote to the newspapers or blogged that it was a lie.
So we know that Obama had a Hawaii birth certificate.
Your claim is that although this certificate exists and although the officials in Hawaii stated that they sent both the short form and the long form versions of it to him, and despite a reporter having said that she felt the seal on it--that both the officials in Hawaii and the reporter are lying because the embossed seal does not show up on a PDF scan. Well, prove your claim. Show a scanned Hawaii BC in PDF with a raised seal on it.
Recently the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm other facts on his published birth certificate. Hawaii did, and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona accepted it as evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.
Obama's mother lived in Hawaii. Obama's father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961---and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the "born in Kenya" claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet you and other birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.
...this is all spam folks. She has to be a democratic operative, as I refuted all of this last night in here. I hope you get your penny a post lady, but I doubt you will. I will put up all the info for everyone to read on my next post here- from over 100 years of law enforcement led by Arpaio/Zullo. They have it all. They also just gave it to Congress at the RNC.
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#118656 Oct 18, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
ding...ding....ding....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =8oG-uSZ2HKsXX
Not very intelligent. When you don't know, can't answer, have not a clue, it's best to tiptoe away fromt he fray, don't you think? I like Chuck Berry as much or more than the next guy, but to use a Berry video for a reply is , what's the word...? Oh yeah, pitiful.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118657 Oct 18, 2012
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS HERE....DOZENS OF DOCUMENTS, FORENSICS, LAW ENFORCEMENT DOCUMENTS, ETC ON OBAMA'S FORGERIES. FROM THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, TO THE SELECTIVE SERVICE CARD, ETC. ALL SHOWN
http://www.wnd.com/...

...it doesn't get better than this. All of Eleen's posts are easily debunked right here by law enforcement officials. Enjoy!
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118658 Oct 18, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Half was roughly half. The pencil marks were handwritten, as were the signatures. More importantly, Fukino is only one of the three officials who stated that they saw the birth certificate in the files.
Obama's birth certificate exists, and the officials in Hawaii in fact stated that they sent a copy to Obama, and at least one reporter said that she had felt the seal. The embossed seal simply does not come out in a PDF scan.
We know that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate in several ways.
The first is the short-form birth certificate. It is generated by a clerk in the Hawaii DOH reading the information in the files and entering it in a computer form. For that to happen there has to be a document in the files. The clerk would have had to have been lying, and the confirmations by the Republican officials in 2008 would have to be lies as well--and why would they do that for a Democrat?
And, we know that Obama had a birth certificate in 1961 from the notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in that year.
We know that only the DOH could send those notices in three ways. First because the representative of the newspapers said so, second because the representative of the DOH said so and third because the section of the newspaper was called "Health Bureau Statistic"---which obviously meant that the facts in it came from the Health Bureau, the DOH. In 1961, the DOH was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children born outside of Hawaii, and it only sent birth notices to the papers for children born in Hawaii.
Some birthers claim that in 1961 Hawaii granted birth certificates to anyone whose relatives applied, but the officials in Hawaii have denied that was the case. They insist that the law in 1961 did not allow the DOH to issue a birth certificate that said "born in Honolulu (or any Hawaii location)" unless the child was actually born in that location and that there was evidence of it. And, you know, there are hundreds of thousands of people who were alive and living in Hawaii in 1961, and after that statement was made not one of them wrote to the newspapers or blogged that it was a lie.
So we know that Obama had a Hawaii birth certificate.
Your claim is that although this certificate exists and although the officials in Hawaii stated that they sent both the short form and the long form versions of it to him, and despite a reporter having said that she felt the seal on it--that both the officials in Hawaii and the reporter are lying because the embossed seal does not show up on a PDF scan. Well, prove your cla...
Recently the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm other facts on his published birth certificate. Hawaii did, and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona accepted it as evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.
Obama's mother lived in Hawaii. Obama's father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961---and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the "born in Kenya" claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet you and other birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS HERE....DOZENS OF DOCUMENTS, FORENSICS, LAW ENFORCEMENT DOCUMENTS, ETC ON OBAMA'S FORGERIES. FROM THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, TO THE SELECTIVE SERVICE CARD, ETC. ALL SHOWN
http://www.wnd.com/ ...
...it doesn't get better than this. All of Eleen's posts are easily debunked right here by law enforcement officials. Enjoy!
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118659 Oct 18, 2012
from WND-

just some examples of the 100's...

" How does Obama's document stack up against genuine BC?

..., when I saw that some of the typed letters on the Obama long-form birth certificate did not match ... "Where’s the Birth Certificate?" are available only from the WND Superstore And as WND has .... "Obtaining an authentic Obama-era birth certificate from Hawaii was also difficult because most people
Author: Jerome R. Corsi Category: Front Page Date: 09/11/2011
CNN 'birther buster' report 'perpetrates fraud'
120606cnn

... certificate as if it were Obama’s original 1961 record. But it turned out to be someone else's birth ... viewers were led to believe was Obama’s birth certificate. Close examination of a screen ... a year old.“Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case Barack Obama Is Not Eligible
Author: Jerome R. Corsi Date: 06/06/2012
Arpaio investigator: Hawaii still covering up for Obama
120918hawaiipostcard

... apparently is to hide away Obama’s original birth certificate, if it exists and then deny anyone ... out of sequence with Obama’s birth certificate number and with the birth certificate numbers ... ;s birth certificate was filed with the Hawaii registrar two days after Obama and one day before
Author: Jerome R. Corsi Date: 09/18/2012
Get insider's view of Arpaio's Obama probe
corsicover

...-Enforcement Investigation into Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate and His Eligibility ... Investigation into Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate and His Eligibility to be President" at WND's Superstore.... of probable cause that the Barack Obama birth certificate presented to the nation is a forgery. Now learn more
Date: 03/03/2012
Sheriff Joe probe to dwarf Watergate?
120527arpaioz

..., Ariz., has made a startling declaration: President Obama’s birth certificate is fraudulent ..., Sheriff Arpaio’s investigative posse definitively believes the birth certificate is not authentic ... certificate that Mr. Obama revealed to the public in April 2011. Their stunning conclusion: The document
Date: 07/20/2012
Evidence of Obama's roots convincing
Obama_15

... a talk in Morristown given by Dr. Jerome Corsi concerning President Barack Obama’s eligibility ..., logically presenting evidence to support his every position. Corsi claims the president’s birth ... of the birth certificate that was released by the president. Each expert said the document was indeed
Date: 04/06/2012
Stunning numbers want Congress to probe Obama's eligibility

... birth certificate, compared to 59 percent of women." Jerome Corsi’s new book, "Where ...’s the Birth Certificate?", is now available for immediate shipping, autographed .... In fact, releasing the birth certificate that Obama released may have made worse his standing
Author: Bob Unruh Category: Front Page Date: 06/26/2011
Obama lawyer: Birth certificate irrelevant to eligibility
obama_smiling

... at and can say,'Okay, this is what has been produced as his [Obama’s] birth certificate ... An attorney representing Barack Obama has argued in court that the long-form birth certificate ... that New Jersey law does not require Obama to present a valid birth certificate to establish his
Author: Jerome R. Corsi Date: 04/16/2012
GOP congressman joins 'birthers'
leftfield300

... after ThinkProgress reported the Florida congressmen questioning whether President Obama’s birth ... at all the evidence.” He called for credence to be given to birth certificate investigations ... certificate is “legitimate,” confirmed today that he is indeed a birther. When asked
Date: 03/20/2012
Video 'proves' Obama birth certificate is fake

... Jerome Corsi’s new book, "Where’s the Birth Certificate?", is now available
Category: Front Page Date: 05/16/2011

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118661 Oct 18, 2012
Here is obama's new RETIREMENT gift house in Kailua, Hawaii...$35Million dollars! WITH PICS
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/secret-retirement-...
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118662 Oct 18, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Half was roughly half. The pencil marks were handwritten, as were the signatures. More importantly, Fukino is only one of the three officials who stated that they saw the birth certificate in the files.
Obama's birth certificate exists, and the officials in Hawaii in fact stated that they sent a copy to Obama, and at least one reporter said that she had felt the seal. The embossed seal simply does not come out in a PDF scan.
We know that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate in several ways.
The first is the short-form birth certificate. It is generated by a clerk in the Hawaii DOH reading the information in the files and entering it in a computer form. For that to happen there has to be a document in the files. The clerk would have had to have been lying, and the confirmations by the Republican officials in 2008 would have to be lies as well--and why would they do that for a Democrat?
And, we know that Obama had a birth certificate in 1961 from the notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in that year.
We know that only the DOH could send those notices in three ways. First because the representative of the newspapers said so, second because the representative of the DOH said so and third because the section of the newspaper was called "Health Bureau Statistic"---which obviously meant that the facts in it came from the Health Bureau, the DOH. In 1961, the DOH was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children born outside of Hawaii, and it only sent birth notices to the papers for children born in Hawaii.
Some birthers claim that in 1961 Hawaii granted birth certificates to anyone whose relatives applied, but the officials in Hawaii have denied that was the case. They insist that the law in 1961 did not allow the DOH to issue a birth certificate that said "born in Honolulu (or any Hawaii location)" unless the child was actually born in that location and that there was evidence of it. And, you know, there are hundreds of thousands of people who were alive and living in Hawaii in 1961, and after that statement was made not one of them wrote to the newspapers or blogged that it was a lie.
So we know that Obama had a Hawaii birth certificate.
Your claim is that although this certificate exists and although the officials in Hawaii stated that they sent both the short form and the long form versions of it to him, and despite a reporter having said that she felt the seal on it--that both the officials in Hawaii and the reporter are lying because the embossed seal does not show up on a PDF scan. Well, prove your claim. Show a scanned Hawaii BC in PDF with a raised seal on it.
Recently the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm other facts on his published birth certificate. Hawaii did, and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona accepted it as evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.
Obama's mother lived in Hawaii. Obama's father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961---and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the "born in Kenya" claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet you and other birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.
your post here is the biggest pile of dog crap I have ever seen. Just your statements alone about the birth certificates NOT being easily gotten as I have shown you and Arpaio/Zullo both investigated is so easily disproved it is laughable. In Hawaii people can get one just by stating they were born there 60 years ago. Zullo proved that without ANY doubt.

lol!
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#118663 Oct 18, 2012
Ellen 1- you are one sick person. We understand your 'need' to lie. No problem, in 19 days you will be gone, just like obama.
The LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118664 Oct 18, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Not very intelligent. When you don't know, can't answer, have not a clue, it's best to tiptoe away fromt he fray, don't you think? I like Chuck Berry as much or more than the next guy, but to use a Berry video for a reply is , what's the word...? Oh yeah, pitiful.
That guy in the White House, what's the word.... Oh yeah, despicable!

Miss me yet? LMAO!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#118665 Oct 18, 2012
LRS wrote:
Mobarf, AND you're supposed to be the patent consultant? Go work in your lab. Frickin' idiot.
HIJ Corp., just patented an oilfield lubricant, claiming a mixture, comprised of components A, B, and C. WXY Corp patented a superior formula, claiming a formula consisting of A, B, C, and D. D is a new compound of which WXY also holds a “composition of matter” patent – they have patented the compound itself. Your oil drilling company is struggling on a new critical project. WXY’s formulation solves all of your problems. HIJ’s formulation does not solve your problems. You hear through the grapevine that your main competitor, Evil Empire, Inc., is engaged in negotiations for an exclusive license to WXY’s formulation. If Evil Empire secures the license and uses the new formulation, it will most likely put you out of business. John Smith, CEO of WXY calls you on the phone and asks if you are interested in an exclusive license. He is eccentric and only wishes to license one company with an exclusive license. You can beat Evil Empire’s price, and they cannot afford to top your best offer. All you have to do is beat their offer, but WXY’s asking price is all you can afford. Your team of lawyers correctly informs you that both of WXY’s patent are “bulletproof” and can withstand any validity challenge in the federal courts. What is your response to John Smith’s offer?
The LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118666 Oct 18, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
HIJ Corp., just patented an oilfield lubricant, claiming a mixture, comprised of components A, B, and C. WXY Corp patented a superior formula, claiming a formula consisting of A, B, C, and D. D is a new compound of which WXY also holds a “composition of matter” patent – they have patented the compound itself. Your oil drilling company is struggling on a new critical project. WXY’s formulation solves all of your problems. HIJ’s formulation does not solve your problems. You hear through the grapevine that your main competitor, Evil Empire, Inc., is engaged in negotiations for an exclusive license to WXY’s formulation. If Evil Empire secures the license and uses the new formulation, it will most likely put you out of business. John Smith, CEO of WXY calls you on the phone and asks if you are interested in an exclusive license. He is eccentric and only wishes to license one company with an exclusive license. You can beat Evil Empire’s price, and they cannot afford to top your best offer. All you have to do is beat their offer, but WXY’s asking price is all you can afford. Your team of lawyers correctly informs you that both of WXY’s patent are “bulletproof” and can withstand any validity challenge in the federal courts. What is your response to John Smith’s offer?
Now you're an author of fiction? Too damn funny Mobarf. FOS!
ehancock

Arlington, MA

#118667 Oct 18, 2012
Re: "The "9" and several others were not mistakes, the mistake made was when the forger imported the term AFRICAN for obama's race (impossible because there is no African race, "

There is no American race either but you are allowed to enter "American" as your race in Hawaii, and several people did. And there is no "Italian" or "Japanese" race either, but you are allowed to use those terms. In fact, you are allowed and in 1961 were allowed to use any word that you wanted to describe your race.

NO one stood over you and told you what word to use, and there was no list of races that you had to use. So, what was the word that African exchange students normally used to describe their race in the 1960s? Answer: African. So Obama's father could, and did, use it.

Re Arapaio/Zullo. They have been proven to be liars.

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

and

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indict...

It is clear that rational conservatives do not believe the "birth certificate was forged" claims. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review certainly do not.

And the conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm specified facts on Obama's birth certificate. Hawaii did, stating that it compared the image of Obama's birth certificate with the file copy (which is an additional confirmation that there was a file copy BTW) and that Obama was born there and that the facts match. The secretary of state of Arizona accepted this confirmation and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November. This indicates that he does not believe the claims that the birth certificate is forged (including those of Sheriff Joe) and that he does believe the officials in Hawaii.

Re: "EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS HERE....DOZENS OF DOCUMENTS, FORENSICS, LAW ENFORCEMENT DOCUMENTS, ETC ON OBAMA'S FORGERIES. FROM THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, TO THE SELECTIVE SERVICE CARD, ETC. ALL SHOWN
http://www.wnd.com/ ...
...it doesn't get better than this. All of Eleen's posts are easily debunked right here by law enforcement officials. Enjoy! "

All the articles are based on the claims of birther "experts"---who have not proved that they are really experts, and who certainly have not shown that they are fair and impartial. These are two reasons why Ann Coulter, the National Review and the Conservative Secretary of state of Arizona do not believe them.

In short: PDF has layers because PDF is supposed to have layers. There is no "Kerning"--manual typewriters skip. Different fonts--no, just the way that a PDF scan of a document on security paper picks up and depicts the letters.

There are many real experts who say that there is nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, including John Woodman, who happens to be a member of the Tea Party and who dislikes Obama and Obama's policies, but shows that the birther "experts" are wrong. They also include Ivan Zatkovich, who was hired by WND to examine the image of Obama's birth certificate, and when he submitted his report that there was nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate, WND simply did not publish it.

Obama's mother lived in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that she went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961---and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the "born in Kenya" claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet you and other birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#118668 Oct 18, 2012
RCP Average-10/7 - 10/17-----47.7-46.7-Romney +1.0

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