BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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akpilot wrote:
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Oh puppet, you have such a simple mind..
Let's see:
The people: They could choose while sitting on a jury to not enforce a law previously deemed lawful by the SCOTUS through Jury Nullification.
The State: The State could choose to nullify a law previously ruled Constitutional but the SCOTUS- Just ask Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.
The Congress: They could leave the law on the books and impeach the entire SCOTUS if they so chose.
The Executive: The President could choose not to enforce a ruling by the SCOTUS
And on and on.. You seem to think the SCOTUS is our new king, they are not. The reality of the matter is they were designed to be the weakest branch of the Federal Government. All they can really do is issue opinions, they have no enforcement authority.
I'm sorry, BirfoonBoy, but UR off on a tangent.

Insofar as the President and Congress are concerned, neither are vested with the judicial Power of the United States, and despite your childish fantasy impeachment of the entire court, such action would not overturn a USSC ruling. Also, the President cannot overturn a USSC ruling either.

Your birfoon buddy said:“[A]fter investigation it was found the United States had no authority to make citizens of those temporarily residing in the United States who owed only a 'temporary allegiance.'”

Aside from the fact that the US does not make citizens of temporary alien residents, the simple fact is that citizenship cases are heard in administrative law hearings which are subject to judicial review. Jury nullification is not possible as there is no jury. Duh!

Grow up!
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Please cite the authority that overrules the United States Supreme Court.
Thank you.

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However, after investigation it was found the United States had no authority to make citizens of those temporarily residing in the United States who owed only a “temporary allegiance.”
A born citizen, even of alien parents, is not an alien temporarily residing in the US. The tie of allegiance of a born citizen is known as natural allegiance and it is not temporary.

Since the US does not make citizens of aliens only temporarily residing in the US, I must ask what is your point?

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I am also a Vietnam Vet. so thank you for your service. But can you be more specific as 62-68 is four years and not many served four years, back to back. May I enquirer to your units and locations.
By the way, I was in Vietnam from Aug. 1970 to Aug. 1971 and served with the 1st Avn. Bde out of Long Binh Plantation.
Also, I assume you are 70 years old or older based on the assumption that you were 20 years old in 1962.
I was 18 in 62 at Ft Eustes Va,my mos was 00B,Cam ranh bay bay a while then went to work in Laos for CAT for 2 years,forward Observer...back to country in 65 with a engerneer boat company clearing blocked rivers,left nam in 67...loved every minute a dunb ass kid...

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>I refer your back to your post 118005.
Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, fact.
And born a natural born citizen of the United States. That's the LAW.
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Huh? 118005? Dumbo, ordinary aliens in the US are completely subject to the jurisdiction United States. They enjoy no immunity from US law. Not my opinion. USSC's opinion, per Article 3 Section 1.
Duh!
Get used to it.
Sorry, BirfoonBoy, you are conflating "subject of" with "subject to" a foreign power.
Please go to high school.

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You are welcome, and I believe in doing things properly.
You will only get nasty judgements for your asinine and inane comments from me.
Again, you are welcome, and I don't mind.
you don't mind because racist hicks don't have one..were your parents siblings?????

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think that would include aliens of any type, since they are subjects of a foreign power, and not subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. NEXT!
There is no "subjects of a foreign power" clause in the 14th Amendment.
(Not in the Civil Rights Act of 1866 either.)

Learn how to read, please!
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The discussions in Congress included many pages devoted to the special circumstances of Indians. I suggest you educate yourself. Also, court decisions elaborated on the special circumstances of Indians. Yet BirfoonBoy conflates children of European aliens with Indians as though the special circumstances should apply to both. UR an I---t.
Bottom line, the child of Indians was not considered the same as the child of Germans, English, Dutch, French, etc.
It ain't rocket science.
Did you just fall off the turnip truck?

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Some current headlines.
NO SURPRISE: Jobless claims rise 46,000...
MISSING STATE FOUND?
Welfare costs $1,030,000,000,000...
Under Obama, for every $7 brought in by gov't,$11 spent...
We can no longer afford Obama!
It is time to change your hope, SHEEPLE!
Call the conservative hotline: 1-800-WHINE.

GOP

G---- GLUTTONOUS

O----- OLD

P---- PIGS

TRANSLATION

I am a dumb hick from Kentucky can't type or spell and Jealous of all you educated folk...
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Yes, Fukino said that Obama's long form birth certificate was half handwritten and half typed, but it clearly is NOT.
Yes, Hawaii LIED!
nailed it!

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SORRY LOSERS SCHOOL'S OUT EARLY I HAVE THINGS TO DO !!!!!!!!

WORLD ENDS FOR TEABAGS NOV 7 2012

"Teabaggers *repent* your end is in sight"
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I'll bet that you will think Oregon really sucks after we get a Republican President, huh?
It is coming, in less than 20 days.
GALLUP: R 51% O 45%...
...you are a true American. Romney is going to clean obama's clock. I think obama is losing most of th swing states now. If Romney pulls off Ohio, the elections is over. Millions are voting early this week, those are mostly Republicans, as dems are clueless. I am calling for an 8-10% sweep for Romney, and 320 electoral votes. if they tie at 269, it will go Romney via the House.
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<quoted text>Call the conservative hotline: 1-800-WHINE.
GOP
G---- GLUTTONOUS
O----- OLD
P---- PIGS
TRANSLATION
I am a dumb hick from Kentucky can't type or spell and Jealous of all you educated folk...
har...me and me brudder...
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Allegations denied (as charges are hard to believe and who would be stupid enough to say such harmful and untrue things?) and report emanates from Rupert Murdoch's supermarket tabloid news media. Your favourite kind of reading material, needless to say. Before suggesting in a nazi-like manner that anyone should be done away with, you should take a good look at yourself and your ilk.
I'm taking a good look at you jacqazz.
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More alarmist FoxNews reports which you don't even understand, based on your lack of reading comprehension. Article goes on to say : ""ways to ensure that content aimed at students systematically reflects cultural and religious diversity, and avoids gender stereotypes."
Then, last week, Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah cut a $20 million check to UNESCO's emergency fund.
Critics warn that the funding will come at a price, and predict the Saudis will want input into what goes into rewritten textbooks.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/16/un-ag... ;
What part of "avoid gender stereotypes" don't you understand? There are 21 nations represented on that commission, plus over 195 nations at the UN which can all vote against any plans by Saudi Arabia to "Islamize" these textbooks. BTW, LRS, was Saudi Arabia not one of the US's closest allies following 9/11, according to GWB? Was the prince not welcomed at the Prsident's Texas home za few days after 9/11?, whereas his closest ally, Canada's PM, was never invited? Why , 11 years later, Saudi Arabia has become a threat to Fox News and, of course, toyou, adorator of Rupert Murdoch and trash yellow journalism?
Cry me a river! Loony pigeon.
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<quoted text>I have applied for and expect to be given control of the Kentucky reeducation camp.... I will be seeing you soon...we own you now and for a long time to come ...Life in America has changed now and your way of life as a racist bigot is over heir Teabag....Sig Heil Comrade
Oh really? You already have crosshairs perfectly centered on your forehead. LOL

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>it is very simple, under treaty she must obey the laws, but is not on the same footing as a citizen, does not belong to the body politic.
It is Justice Birfoon's contention that one is under the jurisdiction of the country in which one holds citizenship even while temporarily visiting in a foreign country.(According to BirfoonBoy, Obama was under the jurisdiction of the British crown when he was born.) He believes his fantasy is based on treaties.

Suppose a German man and Irish woman have a child while residing in New York. According to US law the child is a US citizen. According to German law, she is a German citizen, and according to Irish law, she is an Irish citizen. She is entitled to passports from all three countries. None of the countries may invalidate her citizenship in any other country.

She goes on vacation to Brazil. While in Brazil, UNDER WHICH COUNTRY'S LAWS IS SHE SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION?

What's so difficult about the question, Mr. "Justice" Dale?

You da "Justice"!
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BirfoonBoy, play "Justice" admits he has no answer as his house of cards falls.
Cat got your tongue?
And if she vacations on the beach in Rio, and gets busted for violating Brazilian law, under which country is she under the jurisdiction of?
It's not a difficult question. What is BirfoonBoy's problem? He thinks he is a "Justice" but everyone knows he is a grandiose NPD twerp.
Hee hee.
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Because Dummy,He wanted to piss you off and show that whatever you racist bigots think doesn't now or ever matter again in America
Mobarf or Bladder Drip?
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wojar wrote:
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It is Justice Birfoon's contention that one is under the jurisdiction of the country in which one holds citizenship even while temporarily visiting in a foreign country.(According to BirfoonBoy, Obama was under the jurisdiction of the British crown when he was born.) He believes his fantasy is based on treaties.
Suppose a German man and Irish woman have a child while residing in New York. According to US law the child is a US citizen. According to German law, she is a German citizen, and according to Irish law, she is an Irish citizen. She is entitled to passports from all three countries. None of the countries may invalidate her citizenship in any other country.
She goes on vacation to Brazil. While in Brazil, UNDER WHICH COUNTRY'S LAWS IS SHE SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION?
What's so difficult about the question, Mr. "Justice" Dale?
You da "Justice"!
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I'm sorry but all I can say is the Biologist (lmao), Chemist (lmao), Patent Consultant (lmao) is a complete ...... wait....ROTFLMAO I'll have to finish this later. HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!! !!!
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wojar wrote:
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It is Justice Birfoon's contention that one is under the jurisdiction of the country in which one holds citizenship even while temporarily visiting in a foreign country.(According to BirfoonBoy, Obama was under the jurisdiction of the British crown when he was born.) He believes his fantasy is based on treaties.
Suppose a German man and Irish woman have a child while residing in New York. According to US law the child is a US citizen. According to German law, she is a German citizen, and according to Irish law, she is an Irish citizen. She is entitled to passports from all three countries. None of the countries may invalidate her citizenship in any other country.
She goes on vacation to Brazil. While in Brazil, UNDER WHICH COUNTRY'S LAWS IS SHE SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION?
What's so difficult about the question, Mr. "Justice" Dale?
You da "Justice"!
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He da Justice and you da dipshat!

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Yep, Obama has criminalized politics. If he disagrees with you, he will punish you.

The No-Fly Terrorist List May Be Enforced Only After You Take Off
Written by Gary North on October 18, 2012

What if your name is placed on a n-fly list after you are in the air? You will return home by car, bus, or train.“Take the bus, and leave the driving to us!”
Exception: you are already on board a flight to Hawaii. Then you will return by cruise ship. Or maybe a freighter.

It happened to Wade Hicks.
Mr. Hicks boarded such a flight. He was on his way to Hawaii, where he was to meet his wife, Navy Lieutenant Hicks, who is stationed in Okinawa, Japan, where the Navy has lots of ships. He was on a military flight.
That’s a nice perk, by the way. He flies on a military flight. I guess it’s classified under R&R. It’s the new Navy. It keeps morale high.
He got off the plane in Hawaii. He was not allowed to re-board.
His name was on a no-fly list.
Then armed guards escorted him off the plane. They were with the Air Force.
He has been stranded in Hawaii ever since.

Read more: http://teapartyeconomist.com/2012/10/18/the-n...
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Doesn't look like the Flappers are going to have a very good day. Aw shucks!

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