OK, I see you are here, I'll go a few more rounds with you before I sleep...<quoted text>
And you are obviously someone who hates Obama. You have not cited any facts proving that Sheriff Joe is accurate. You only say that you think that he is, yet the cited articles show that he is wrong.
Moreover, you claim that the birth certificate is forged, and you do so only by citing "birther experts"---whose expertise has not been proven, some of whom are nutty, and the others are zealots who hate Obama, often to the extent of claiming that Obama did not attend Columbia College despite the fact that Columbia University says that he did, and graduated.
When Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review call call birthers crazy, and when the CONSERVATIVE secretary of state of Arizona asks Hawaii to confirm that it has Obama's birth certificate on file and to confirm various facts on the birth certificate, and it does (and in fact confirms ALL of the facts on the birth certificate), and the CONSERVATIVE secretary of state of Arizona rules that that is evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, then you have to realize that your cause is lost.
It so happens I voted FOR obama. I don't hate him, but I realized long ago that he is a creature of habit: lies, forgeries like he and his friend Ayers bragged about, his connections and upbringing, in fact his whole life story, are filled with constructs, like his books, which talks about his "girlfriends", all made up, etc. He does this for a living, and has been ripped so many times for his lies it is sickening. The debate last night was classis...he lies about everything, from the oil debates with Mitt, he cut them 62% and 35% on the permits, drilling, etc. He lied. He also lied about the coverup on Libya. Now he is trying to create another lie which Mitt got on the record, and now will be obama's undoing on the next debate. He lied so hard, he made Crowly reiterate it. The transcripts already showed he lied about Libya being terrorism, he never mentioned it, and if he did know on dayone in the Rose Garden, why did he then spend the next 14 days saying it was the movie 6 times at the UN, sending out Ambassador Rice on 5 shows on a Sunday saying it was not terrorism, had Clinton do the same, and take out TV time in Benghazi saying it was not terrorism but a movie, and going on the View to lie again in front of millions.
Well lade, your here just perjured himself in front of the world, that will all be item #1 next debate.
Lets see you spin that one honey.