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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#118276 Oct 17, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>you proved my point, Puss!
It may seem that way if you live in a rubber room.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Na´ve play law doesn't count. Operation of foreign law has no force or effect in the US and it most certainly cannot interfere with birthright citizenship in this country for a person born here.

Birthright citizenship in the US does not "strip away" citizenship by descent in a foreign country. Such a person is free to go to the consulate of the foreign country in which he holds citizenship apply for a passport and use it anywhere, except in the US.

The birfoon, on the contrary, believes that the US is not a sovereign nation as operation of foreign law should void birthright US citizenship. Ludicrous.

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Suppose a German man and Irish woman have a child while residing in New York? According to US law the child is a US citizen. According to German law, she is a German citizen, and according to Irish law, she is an Irish citizen. She is entitled to passports from all three countries. None of the countries may invalidate her citizenship in any other country.

Does the birfoon think that Ireland by issuing a passport recognizing her Irish citizenship "strips away" her German citizenship? Does the birfoon think that Germany similarly "strips away" her Irish citizenship? Meanwhile the birfoon believes Germany may invalidate her US citizenship.

Just plain crazy.

Grow up.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118277 Oct 17, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Welfare Boy, no one is asking whether you're satisfied with what constitutes a citizen. Theres no need to shirk the question. You merely have to support your flawed understanding with case law.
And don't worry, Welfare Boy, I believe you. ;) PLENTY of satisfied people spend 16 hours a day on Topix trying to troll people.
BWAHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Bladder Drip, LMSAO! Sadly, you're nothing more than an ignorant baboon. Better put some bandages on those knuckles. I know how it just eats you up to know that I'm set and retired,whereas you're not. Yes, I have plenty of time to do as I wish. BTW, more good news just came today. Two more AFEs and wells planned after that. I better pick up a pair of shades cause the future is looking so bright! We're talking 8 figures here little one. Shhhhh now.

I feel the need, the need for speed! The acceleration is nothing short of violent! Think you can hang wittle one? LMAO!!!

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#118278 Oct 17, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
I know the correct spelling is Ce La Vie, and I also know what it means.
HOW INCREDIBLY IGNORANT. YOU ARE COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY WRONG.
Is there anyone on this thread who knows French?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118280 Oct 17, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
"U.S. homes [did not] surge" as you have written. The article stated that "[g]roundbreaking on new U.S. homes" surged.
If you are familiar with the most basic concept in Economics -- that The Market allocates scarce resources -- you would understand that the allocation has been to the greatest WEALTH CREATION in the entire history of the world by the > 121% increase in the equity markets during the past 3-3/4 years. That is why home values are "only" up 25% since the bottom of the Bush housing debacle in January 2009. Of course, with leverage the real return is closer to that same 120%. You can't fool The Market.
Child.

“Conservatism is a Disease.”

Since: Nov 11

Lake Los Angeles, CA

#118281 Oct 17, 2012
The Birthers have failed.

Obama 2012
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#118282 Oct 17, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet another LIE by someone who has never studied The Law.
Please tell the Class what in your opinion is the best of the learned treatises on constitutional law. Thank you.
So wojar is a liar! Hell, we all knew that!
The remainder of your post is, Irrelevant.

“Conservatism is a Disease.”

Since: Nov 11

Lake Los Angeles, CA

#118283 Oct 17, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
HOW INCREDIBLY IGNORANT. YOU ARE COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY WRONG.
Is there anyone on this thread who knows French?
I know how to french kiss. Thats all.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118284 Oct 17, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Yours is a common statement made by those without education -- often people with a great deal of wealth. That is why professionals in the major firms are paid $1,000/hr. and more.
We always told our clients your statement is true, but only when the effective tax rate is 100%. At this moment the federal marginal income tax rate for working-class families is 15%-- the lowest it has ever been since the implementation of the XVIth. Only those who are not wealthy subscribe to the MYTH that current federal marginal tax rates are high, because that is what they read in the press. People who have real wealth are very happy with today's rate schedule, because they know how good it is compared to the Reagan era of high taxes, high unemployment, high inflation, the lowest creditworthiness for the United States in its history, and low stock market gains due the policies of the least-educated president in the history of the United States.
Stupid child.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#118285 Oct 17, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah....
Some they held a gun to their heads ...
Some they just twisted their arms ...
Unamerican Lunch Lady, I noticed you failed to state the poll type. What was the poll's methodology? A voluntary response poll is a specific poll type.

Can you provide that information or not?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#118286 Oct 17, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:

<quoted text>you proved my point, Puss!
Suppose a German man and Irish woman have a child while residing in New York? According to US law the child is a US citizen. According to German law, she is a German citizen, and according to Irish law, she is an Irish citizen. She is entitled to passports from all three countries. None of the countries may invalidate her citizenship in any other country.

Does the birfoon think that Ireland by issuing a passport recognizing her Irish citizenship "strips away" her German citizenship? Does the birfoon think that Germany similarly "strips away" her Irish citizenship? Meanwhile the birfoon believes Germany may invalidate -- "strip away" -- her US citizenship.

Just plain crazy.

Grow up.

And if she vacations on the beach in Rio, and gets busted for violating Brazilian law, under which country is she under the jurisdiction of?

Play law doesn't work.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#118287 Oct 17, 2012
SHEEPLE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
I know the correct spelling is Ce La Vie, and I also know what it means.
Say La Vie to your ZERO Obama, SKANK!
LOLOLOL, Kentucky Klown Kar, you're still WRONG.

BWAHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118288 Oct 17, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Tell the Class exactly what books, law review articles, and learned treatises you have read. What in your opinion is the most on point treatise with respect to this topic? Thank you."
====
<quoted text>
Then do you promise to state for the Class "exactly what books, law review articles, and learned treatises you have read?"
LMAO!!! Easy Bake, why would anyone promise you anything? Here's my promise to you; as you leap from the nearest bridge, I will wave.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#118289 Oct 17, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It may seem that way if you live in a rubber room.
<quoted text>
Hey, Puss! You owe me for them there crow-eggs!
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#118290 Oct 17, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you mean by "certain background"? Nationality, profession?
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Playing stupid fits you like a glove jacqazz. Custom tailored.
I apologize for my complicated question. I'll try to make it simpler next time. Forget this one, though, just expel EVERY person, man, woman and child, of Bangladeshi origin form the U.S. And Egyptian and Saudi and Lebanese also, all part and parcel of 9/11. Oh, and all U.S. citizens and residents of British origin also because of the Brit shoe bomber on the airliner, remember?
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#118291 Oct 17, 2012
Busted Birfoon wrote:
Kentucky Klown Kar, a news article is not a primary source. Moreover, you must not have watched your silly birfoon video.

HINT: "guesstimate" translates to "made up."

You're an abject failure -- again.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#118292 Oct 17, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Suppose a German man and Irish woman have a child while residing in New York? According to US law the child is a US citizen. According to German law, she is a German citizen, and according to Irish law, she is an Irish citizen. She is entitled to passports from all three countries. None of the countries may invalidate her citizenship in any other country.
Does the birfoon think that Ireland by issuing a passport recognizing her Irish citizenship "strips away" her German citizenship? Does the birfoon think that Germany similarly "strips away" her Irish citizenship? Meanwhile the birfoon believes Germany may invalidate -- "strip away" -- her US citizenship.
Just plain crazy.
Grow up.
And if she vacations on the beach in Rio, and gets busted for violating Brazilian law, under which country is she under the jurisdiction of?
Play law doesn't work.
Ha, ha, ha!!! You posteds it, you live with it!
PUSS!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118294 Oct 17, 2012
Now this is typical Libtardian Logic. In the debate last night Obama claimed the price of gasoline was $1.80+ gallon when he entered office so what is it now $3.60+ a gallon? Hint, what was the cost of crude oil when Obama entered office and what is it today?
Since non-government owned petroleum companies control only 10% of the earths oil, who is to blame? Now if you were Bill O'Really you would blame it on ... brokers .... but O'Really is no Conservative.
OPEC sets the price of oil as they control 50% of the EXPORT oil market! And here is the list of the OPEC member COUNTRIES;
...
Algeria, Angola, Ecuador, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Venezuela
..
Please note, Exxon-Mobile, Texaco, BP, Shell, etc. are not among those countries!!!
....
Oh, and oil production in U.S. federal controlled lands and waters is DOWN 14% since Obama entered the White House.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#118295 Oct 17, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you mean by "certain background"? Nationality, profession?
<quoted text>
I apologize for my complicated question. I'll try to make it simpler next time. Forget this one, though, just expel EVERY person, man, woman and child, of Bangladeshi origin form the U.S. And Egyptian and Saudi and Lebanese also, all part and parcel of 9/11. Oh, and all U.S. citizens and residents of British origin also because of the Brit shoe bomber on the airliner, remember?
Background covers many things jacqazz or did you not realize that?
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#118297 Oct 17, 2012
Butthurt Loser wrote:
<quoted text>
Bladder Drip, LMSAO! Sadly, you're nothing more than an ignorant baboon. Better put some bandages on those knuckles. I know how it just eats you up to know that I'm set and retired,whereas you're not. Yes, I have plenty of time to do as I wish. BTW, more good news just came today. Two more AFEs and wells planned after that. I better pick up a pair of shades cause the future is looking so bright! We're talking 8 figures here little one. Shhhhh now.
I feel the need, the need for speed! The acceleration is nothing short of violent! Think you can hang wittle one? LMAO!!!
No one is doubting your wealth and power, Welfare Boy.

I have found, however, that those of us who are truly well off never have to brag about it.

Anywho, I noticed that you again failed to provide any support for your uneducated birfoon opinion. It's simple, really. All you need to do is find case law that supports your flawed concept of jurisdiction.

You cam do that, right?

Do you need help with research sources? Do you know where to look?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#118298 Oct 17, 2012
Do any of you Libtards understand "royalties"? Let's say you own a property and you sell an oil lease and the person who bought those rights agreed to pay you X amount of money per gallon of oil pumped out of the ground.
Now, if you are the Federal government, the more they pump out the more money flows into the Treasury of the United States and the more money Obama would be able to spend on his pet project but nooooo, Obama is to stoooooped to know that!!!
But then again, who ever accused a Libtard of having any commonsense?

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