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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117825 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Why did the SS and the FBI question him? Because he said he was ready for a riot and was willing to protect himself?
If you have people talking about rioting, destroying property, assaulting people, etc. you think that is okay but to arrest someone who said he is ready to defend himself, why that is ....okay?
If anyone needs to Bakerized, it is people like you!
http://www.clerk.co.okeechobee.fl.us/Baker_ac...
And if you believe Gov. Regan was responspible for letting people out of the looney bins, it was you Democrats who did that in 1967 under LBJ and the Democrat controlled Congress.
Yep, every governor of every state had to let most of their crazies out of their mental hospitals but YOU only blamed Gov. Ronald Reagan. Why, where you one that was released?
Sorry, you're ranting again.

I've already shown you and proven to you how Raygunz fired the mental health workers in CA and created thousands of crazy homeless people.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#117826 Oct 16, 2012
Jacques,
I have been doing a lot of reading about Islam.
Barack Obama and the human slaughter in Syria is what has piqued my interest.
Jihad Watch is a great web site that unveils the naked truth about Islam.
Did you know that Muslims idolize the Qur'an?
By definition this makes Muslims plain and simple idolators.
loose
Jacqus Ottawa

North York, Canada

#117827 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
So Fidel Castro's doctor has TWO black Mercedes 500's and lives in a million dollar house in Havana!!!
Alvarez Cambra was close to Hussein in his various hiding places during the Gulf War. After the conflict ended, invading forces found the corpses of many Cuban soldiers and doctors, according to Israeli sources. Alvarez Cambra is married to a European woman, and has a son of the same name and profession. He has a nurse and confidant named Esperanza. At one time, his companion, assistant and bodyguard named Jose Antonio Fernandez (or Alvarez). Among the medical positions held by Dr. Alvarez Cambra has been the Director of the Frank Pais Hospital, in the city of Marianao, in the province of Havana.
The gratitude of Saddam Hussein can be seen in Alvarez Cambra's luxurious residence, located on 20th Street in the Miramar section of Havana, and two black Mercedes 500 cars. Visitors to the doctor's house, refer to it as an extremely luxurious residence, possibly valued in millions of dollars. Saddam Hussein also has extended his gratitude to Castro, giving the Cuban leader hundreds of carpets that were used in the meetings of the Cuban Communist party in 1995 and in October 1997. Some of these carpets were distributed among the Cuban "nomenclatura."
I have news for you, Rogue. Castro does not have 2 black Mercedes 500. Castro has about 50 cars, many 500s among them and BMWs, Range Rovers etc etc. You seem to take great pleasure in telling me this as if I approved of that kind of stuff. Of course I don't. No more than I approve of his 1 million dollar home, and btw, he has more than one and they are scattered all over the country. Of course it's wrong, he should have been ousted a long time ago. His revolution was essential, wish they had a Castro in Haiti, Dom Republic, Jamaica. Urgently required. Problem with Castro is he kept the revolution going for 50 years. How dictatorial. How stupid. He let the economy stagnate. Did not let normal inflation take its course, is why average salary, whether you're a garbage man or engineer, is an equal $20 a momth, up from $15 a year ago.

Castro's first 6 or 7 years were great, were necessary, though he could've done without executions of civil servants and imprisonment of protestors. He stabilized the country, went from 40% literacy rate to 100%, trained 1000s of doctors. The rest is history, he became a ruthless dictator, held the reins of the economy for too long and result is , his country is now facing ruin.

As per many world leaders, democratic or dictatorial, he has surrounded himself in luxury and privileges. That is wrong and condemnable, more so as his people are just barely getting by.
Jacqus Ottawa

North York, Canada

#117828 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
So Fidel Castro's doctor has TWO black Mercedes 500's and lives in a million dollar house in Havana!!!
Alvarez Cambra was close to Hussein in his various hiding places during the Gulf War. After the conflict ended, invading forces found the corpses of many Cuban soldiers and doctors, according to Israeli sources. Alvarez Cambra is married to a European woman, and has a son of the same name and profession. He has a nurse and confidant named Esperanza. At one time, his companion, assistant and bodyguard named Jose Antonio Fernandez (or Alvarez). Among the medical positions held by Dr. Alvarez Cambra has been the Director of the Frank Pais Hospital, in the city of Marianao, in the province of Havana.
The gratitude of Saddam Hussein can be seen in Alvarez Cambra's luxurious residence, located on 20th Street in the Miramar section of Havana, and two black Mercedes 500 cars. Visitors to the doctor's house, refer to it as an extremely luxurious residence, possibly valued in millions of dollars. Saddam Hussein also has extended his gratitude to Castro, giving the Cuban leader hundreds of carpets that were used in the meetings of the Cuban Communist party in 1995 and in October 1997. Some of these carpets were distributed among the Cuban "nomenclatura."
Quit it. Are you trying to tell us that the U.S. and various European countries have never given asylum to deposed tyrants? Careful with that glass house of yours. We are not exempt either, as we have at least 5 Rwandans living here who had direct dealings in the slaughter of thousands of Rwandans.

I know the Miramar section quite well, thank you. Can describe what's behind the walls for you. Makes me cringe, but then, so do such similar things make me cringe all over this world of ours.
SHEEPLE Buster

Louisville, KY

#117829 Oct 16, 2012
ENOCHS JUSTICE wrote:
<quoted text>
Its getting closer everyday.
More independents are deciding to vote Romney.
I believe we'll see a regime change this time.
President Romney will be ready to rule, um, I mean ready to govern.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#117830 Oct 16, 2012
Jacqves,
I was listening to a lecture by a renowned university professor about Islam the other day.
He said that most Arabs in the United States are in fact Christians. And that most Muslims in the US are of African descent.
I thought that was interesting.
loose
SHEEPLE Buster

Louisville, KY

#117832 Oct 16, 2012
Interesting headlines.

IN PLAY: Romney draws to within 4 in PA...

Poll: Romney Near Landslide In Rural Swing Counties...

Campaign files federal suit to ensure all military ballots count in WI...

Ross Perot endorses Romney...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#117833 Oct 16, 2012
Jacqus Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Here, in your own words : " The fact is Pelosi sat on the budget and it was not voted on at all in the House until after Bush left office. Further the deficit has grown by more than ONE TRILLION DOLLAE$. In other words, it was no longer the Bush budget. Obama owned it 100%.
FY2009 Budget Deficit
$407 billion (requested)[by Bush]"
Bush's budget, delayed by Pelosi, yes, but Bush's budget. Deficit :$407 billion. One of many, in the wake of so many others, following Clinton's "they-said-it-was-impossi ble" budget surpluses, thereafter followed by disastrous GWB tax cuts for the rich,$2 trillion wars in Afgh and Iraq, closing the eyes of regulators or ignoring gross financial irreguarities etc. No wonder Pelosi wanted to have many looks at that shotgun budget. In the end, her congress and Obama had little choice, money was running out, he had assumed power 6 weeks before. Problems were so huge, so overwhelming, had he known it was that bad, Obama would not have promised a balanced budget or a cut in the deficit. Repurcussions are now worldwide, and the crisis, in the US and overseas, will take more than the last 4 years to resolve. But it will be resolved, yes, if Obama is re-elected. I fear he may not and Romney will distribute what is left of the crumbs to his rich pals, count on it, and you birthers will cheer him on as the ship quickly, rather than slowly, lists and sinks.
The ONLY reasons why the Clinton era did so well was because ....1) he signed four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets into law ,,,,, 2) signed seven of the points of the Contract with America into law to include Welfare Reform ....3) signed Newt's Taxpayer Relief Act of 1988 into law.
The ONLY credit I give Clinton was signing CONSERVATIVE BILLS into law. Big f-ing deal. Anyone can sign a paper!
SHEEPLE Buster

Louisville, KY

#117834 Oct 16, 2012
RESET: U.S. to End Pro-Democracy Broadcasts in Russia...

I'm sure Putin can feel Obama's tongue all up in his ass.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117835 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
The ONLY reasons why the Clinton era did so well was because ....1) he signed four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets into law ,,,,, 2) signed seven of the points of the Contract with America into law to include Welfare Reform ....3) signed Newt's Taxpayer Relief Act of 1988 into law.
The ONLY credit I give Clinton was signing CONSERVATIVE BILLS into law. Big f-ing deal. Anyone can sign a paper!
1) Newtie has no budgets
2) not true
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117836 Oct 16, 2012
loose cannon wrote:
Jacqves,
I was listening to a lecture by a renowned university professor about Islam the other day.
He said that most Arabs in the United States are in fact Christians. And that most Muslims in the US are of African descent.
I thought that was interesting.
loose
I just finished reading a book on Mormons. Did you know that Mormons murdered thousands of Americans? I thought you'd like to know.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#117837 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
So Fidel Castro's doctor has TWO black Mercedes 500's and lives in a million dollar house in Havana!!!
Alvarez Cambra was close to Hussein in his various hiding places during the Gulf War. After the conflict ended, invading forces found the corpses of many Cuban soldiers and doctors, according to Israeli sources. Alvarez Cambra is married to a European woman, and has a son of the same name and profession. He has a nurse and confidant named Esperanza. At one time, his companion, assistant and bodyguard named Jose Antonio Fernandez (or Alvarez). Among the medical positions held by Dr. Alvarez Cambra has been the Director of the Frank Pais Hospital, in the city of Marianao, in the province of Havana.
The gratitude of Saddam Hussein can be seen in Alvarez Cambra's luxurious residence, located on 20th Street in the Miramar section of Havana, and two black Mercedes 500 cars. Visitors to the doctor's house, refer to it as an extremely luxurious residence, possibly valued in millions of dollars. Saddam Hussein also has extended his gratitude to Castro, giving the Cuban leader hundreds of carpets that were used in the meetings of the Cuban Communist party in 1995 and in October 1997. Some of these carpets were distributed among the Cuban "nomenclatura."
Jacqus Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Quit it. Are you trying to tell us that the U.S. and various European countries have never given asylum to deposed tyrants? Careful with that glass house of yours. We are not exempt either, as we have at least 5 Rwandans living here who had direct dealings in the slaughter of thousands of Rwandans.
I know the Miramar section quite well, thank you. Can describe what's behind the walls for you. Makes me cringe, but then, so do such similar things make me cringe all over this world of ours.
As usual you missed the point, the point being is that Fidel Carson and his buddies do not get routine Cuban medical care. In fact it is far from it.
Jacqus Ottawa

North York, Canada

#117838 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
The ONLY reasons why the Clinton era did so well was because ....1) he signed four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets into law ,,,,, 2) signed seven of the points of the Contract with America into law to include Welfare Reform ....3) signed Newt's Taxpayer Relief Act of 1988 into law.
The ONLY credit I give Clinton was signing CONSERVATIVE BILLS into law. Big f-ing deal. Anyone can sign a paper!
It's called the art of compromise, Rogue. That was Clinton's talent, and please don't go on and on about Newt's budgets, they were Clinton budgets, no one else's, he presented them to congress, he got together with his troops, with repubs, with Gingrich and they came to satisfactory compromises.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#117839 Oct 16, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
I just finished reading a book on Mormons. Did you know that Mormons murdered thousands of Americans? I thought you'd like to know.
"Thousands"? Yes, I am aware of the The Mountain Meadows massacre of 1857 in which 100-140 people were killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows...
I do not condone their actions but did you know that it was legal to kill a Mormon on sight in Missouri until ..... 1976 .....because of the "Mormon Extermination Order"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executi...
But did you know that; John Doyle Lee (September 12, 1812 – March 23, 1877) was a prominent early Latter-day Saint who was executed for his role in the Mountain Meadows massacre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Lee
That's right, the Mormons punished a few of the leaders who were involved in the massacre. Now, how many people in Missouri were punished for murdering Mormons?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#117840 Oct 16, 2012
Yep, and on the eve of the big debate ... another of Obama's Green projects is in big trouble. And then is another Quarter Billion Dollar$ of taxpayer's money down the Obama drain!!!

Battery maker A123 headed toward bankruptcy
By Aaron Smith @CNNMoneyTech October 16, 2012:

In 2009, A123 received $249 million in federal funding for advanced battery technology manufacturing in two sites in Michigan -- Romulus and Brownstown -- as part of a $2.4 billion stimulus package.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/16/technology/a1...
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117841 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Thousands"? Yes, I am aware of the The Mountain Meadows massacre of 1857 in which 100-140 people were killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows...
I do not condone their actions but did you know that it was legal to kill a Mormon on sight in Missouri until ..... 1976 .....because of the "Mormon Extermination Order"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executi...
But did you know that; John Doyle Lee (September 12, 1812 – March 23, 1877) was a prominent early Latter-day Saint who was executed for his role in the Mountain Meadows massacre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Lee
That's right, the Mormons punished a few of the leaders who were involved in the massacre. Now, how many people in Missouri were punished for murdering Mormons?
Yea, the Mormons punished John D Lee,.....when it was to their advantage they sacrificed him.

Don't try to out-Mormon me. I live in the West and I've had to deal with them my entire life. You know nothing about Mormons.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#117842 Oct 16, 2012
Obama the Kenyan wrote:
obama has no birth certificate, SS card, SS#, passports, college records, grades, you name it...it is all a fraud.
In Hawaii we all know he doesn't have one, Arpaio proved it beyond reproach with Zullo. Russia, Israel, England all know through their intel that he was born in Kenya.
sorry folks...but he was the perfect patsy to take the heat and was so dumb he let Wall St steal the cash out of this country. Now you have to pay for it.
Now Mitt will come in and re-up the economy. The banks won't lend until obama is out.
Wake up people, and vote for Romney or you will be broker than the state of CA is. Vote NO on Prop 30 too. Let them cut aid to illegals before they ask you for more. Then say no again.
Prop 13 saved our homes, and they can't touch it. Do the same thing with Prop 30 and 38. Let them make do with what they have. No more taxes, no more obama.
Period.
Dream on.

Officials of both political parties say that Obama has a birth certificate on record at the Hawaii department of health. This is further confirmed by the public Index Data file, which says that there is a BC for Obama filed in 1961, and it is further confirmed by the birth notices sent to the newspapers of Hawaii in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii. Only the DOH could send those notices because the section of the newspaper was called “Health Bureau Statistics”—and both the papers and the DOH confirm this fact. And in 1961 the DOH only sent out notices to people that it issued birth certificates to, and in 1961 Hawaii was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children who were not born in Hawaii.

Another confirmation that Obama’s original birth certificate exists in the files in Hawaii is the short-form birth certificate issued to Obama. The short form is generated by a clerk looking into the files and reading off the data on the document there and entering it into a computer form that generates the short form birth certificate. Obviously a document has to exist in the files for that to take place.

And Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and there is no evidence that Obama’s mother traveled out of the country in 1961, which would have been extremely rare late in pregnancy in those days.(And the government of Kenya said that it did an investigation, and he certainly was NOT born there.) Obama’s Kenyan grandmother never said that Obama was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly on the taped call that he was born in Hawaii, and she said in another interview that the first that her family had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.)

Re SS number:

The Connecticut SS number was caused by a data entry error. SS numbers were generated by the zip code of the applicant’s address. Obama’s address in Hawaii was in zip code 96814, and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814.

Millions of people have multiple social security numbers caused mainly by data entry errors:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38678753/How_Many_Soci...

http://www.securityworldnews.com/2010/08/12/2...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-200137...
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117843 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, and on the eve of the big debate ... another of Obama's Green projects is in big trouble. And then is another Quarter Billion Dollar$ of taxpayer's money down the Obama drain!!!
Battery maker A123 headed toward bankruptcy
By Aaron Smith @CNNMoneyTech October 16, 2012:
In 2009, A123 received $249 million in federal funding for advanced battery technology manufacturing in two sites in Michigan -- Romulus and Brownstown -- as part of a $2.4 billion stimulus package.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/16/technology/a1...
How many dollars and lives were spent when the Dufus Bush invaded the wrong country?

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#117845 Oct 16, 2012
Jacqus Ottawa wrote:
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Do we or don't we have I.D. cards in Canada? Was that Canadian friend so dumb he didn't even know he has to use his driver's license as I.D. because Canada DOES NOT ISSUE I.D. CARDS. Instead of writing, in defeat, "And about the other things you stated, I am done discussing this with you.", why don't you just say you were wrong?
As to so many Canadians complaining about our health care, as you reported, what do you say about our 90% approval rating? How is your rating? Defeat again or will you answer?
Games? YOU came out with the I.D. cards and health care, remember?
I said Citizenship cards, not ID Cards.
Jesus Christ, you are dense or dishonest or both!

http://www.canada-immigration-info.ca/citizen...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#117846 Oct 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
The ONLY reasons why the Clinton era did so well was because ....1) he signed four of Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets into law ,,,,, 2) signed seven of the points of the Contract with America into law to include Welfare Reform ....3) signed Newt's Taxpayer Relief Act of 1988 into law.
The ONLY credit I give Clinton was signing CONSERVATIVE BILLS into law. Big f-ing deal. Anyone can sign a paper!
Jacqus Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
It's called the art of compromise, Rogue. That was Clinton's talent, and please don't go on and on about Newt's budgets, they were Clinton budgets, no one else's, he presented them to congress, he got together with his troops, with repubs, with Gingrich and they came to satisfactory compromises.
Clinton,,,, compromise? He vetoed the FY1996 budget and shut down the government!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_fe...
In the end..... he signed it!!!
And Welfare reform,,,,he vetoed in in 1995,,, and in 1996 ,,,,before signing it in 1996!!!
1996 Welfare Reform Bill -- Just the Facts --by Barry D. Bowen

President Bill Clinton twice vetoed the welfare reform bill put forward by Newt Gingrich and Bob Dole. Then just before the Democratic Convention he signed a third version. Some liberals were upset. Conservatives continued to sell the line that Clinton did not believe in welfare reform.
The ONLY reason Clinton signed the Welfare Reform Act was he had looked at the polls and saw how big of an issue it really was and wanted to remove it as an issue before debating Bib Dole!!!

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