BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#117673 Oct 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Then neither is his son. Thank you.
His son was born in the USA and hence is a Natural Born US Citizen.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#117674 Oct 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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The States retained only the portions of common law applicable to their own situation. Really, can't you come up with some new slurs? These are all so old and truely boring. BOINK BOINK BOINK BOINK poor pigeon.
Sorrreeeeee.

Massachusetts Constitution of 1780:
"Article VI
All the laws which have heretofore been adopted, used and approved in the Province, Colony or State of Massachusetts Bay, and usually practiced on in the courts of law, shall still remain and be in full force, until altered or repealed by the legislature"

New York Constitution of 1777:
"XXXV. And this convention doth further, in the name and by the authority of the good people of this State, ordain, determine, and declare that such parts of the common law of England, and of the statute law of England and Great Britain, and of the acts of the legislature of the colony of New York, as together did form the law of the said colony on the 19th day of April, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy-five, shall be and continue the law of this State"

Delaware Constitution of 1776:
"ART. 25. The common law of England, as-well as so much of the statute law as has been heretofore adopted in practice in this State, shall remain in force, unless they shall be altered by a future law of the legislature;"

Pennsylvania Sept 28, 1776.
SECT. 42. Every foreigner of good character who comes to settle in this state, having first taken an oath or affirmation of allegiance to the same, may purchase, or by other just means acquire, hold, and transfer land or other real estate; and after one year's residence, shall be deemed a free denizen thereof, and entitled to all the rights of a NATURAL BORN SUBJECT of this state, except that he shall not be capable of being elected a representative until after two years residence.

"entitled to all the rights of a NATURAL BORN SUBJECT of this state...." New Jersey 1776.
Terri Tanna wrote:
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Please identify the WRITTEN DOCUMENT that clarified which portions of the common law were applicable and which portions were not.
You must be a "birther," because you state things that are absurd on there face and which you cannot support by reference to any controlling written document.
That is why you have a GED, and couldn't even gain admission to junior college.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117675 Oct 15, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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There's this little thing on the internet called Google.
Its quite amazing really.
I here that the British-French-American Provence of Canada may be getting it soon.
Pehaps, did you also 'HEAR' that the Snark got his ass handed to him and then he crawled under a rock???

Notice: That would be hear and not here......DUH!!!!

Birthers have so few brains!!!
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#117676 Oct 15, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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There's this little thing on the internet called Google.
Its quite amazing really.
I here that the British-French-American Provence of Canada may be getting it soon.
We're supposed to look for your posts on Topix on Google? Never mind.

What do you mean by "Provence"? Provence is a region of France, called "Le Midi de la France".

Oh, we are not as advanced as you guys. Still pounding away on my Atari. But hell, it's somehow kept us in the Triple A rating league.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117678 Oct 15, 2012
Starky, where are you?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#117679 Oct 15, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Perhaps the first most important thing to understand about national birthright is that there was no national birthright rule until the year 1866. One will look in vain to find any national law on the subject prior to this year, or even any mention of the right to citizenship by birth under the United States Constitution.
Birfoon: "or even any mention of the right to citizenship by birth under the United States Constitution"

See Lynch v. Clarke, which, incidentally was cited favorably by several federal courts, including the USSC.

“And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President.‘No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,’ &c. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not.” Lynch v. Clarke, 3 NY Leg. Obs. 236, 246 (N.Y. Ch. 1844).
wojar wrote:
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There is no record that Hamilton's language was ever the "original language".
The Committee of Detail originally proposed eligibility requirements for the Executive under a Tenth article. See William C. Rives, History of the Life and Times of James Madison, Volume 2.
"The tenth article of the plan reported by the committee of detail provided … that the executive power should be vested in a single magistrate, to be styled the President of the United States ...."
The original eligibility clause did not require a person born a citizen in the country:
Concerning this "Tenth Article" it was stated "At the end of the first section, tenth article, add,'he shall be of the age of thirty five years, and a citizen of the United States, and shall have been an inhabitant thereof for twenty one years.'" WEDNESDAY AUGUST 22. IN CONVENTION. 1787.
On September 4, 1787, the eligibility requirements were amended:
"No person except a natural born citizen or a Citizen of the U. S. at the time of the adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the office of President; nor shall any person be elected to that office, who shall be under the age of thirty five years, and who has not been in the whole, at least fourteen years a resident within the U. S."
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#117680 Oct 15, 2012
President Starky wrote:
<quoted text>
There's this little thing on the internet called Google.
Its quite amazing really.
I here that the British-French-American Provence of Canada may be getting it soon.
Quit stalling, just give the post number.

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#117681 Oct 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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We're supposed to look for your posts on Topix on Google? Never mind.
What do you mean by "Provence"? Provence is a region of France, called "Le Midi de la France".
Oh, we are not as advanced as you guys. Still pounding away on my Atari. But hell, it's somehow kept us in the Triple A rating league.
muslims are exempt from Obamacare"
Look it up yourself.

Provence-
A territory governed as an administrative or political unit of a country or empire.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117682 Oct 15, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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muslims are exempt from Obamacare"
Look it up yourself.
Provence-
A territory governed as an administrative or political unit of a country or empire.
Now Stark, you know that is a lie. It's already been proven. Why do you continue with the lies? Why are you avoiding me?

The Stark tells only lies...
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117684 Oct 15, 2012
Provence (French pronunciation:[p&#641; &#596;.v&#593;&#77 1;s]; Provençal: Provença in classical norm or Prouvènço in Mistralian norm, pronounced [p&#640;u&#712;v&# 603;&#8319;s&#596;]) is a region of south eastern France on the Mediterranean adjacent to Italy. It is part of the administrative région of Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur. The traditional region of Provence comprises the départements of Var, Vaucluse, Bouches-du-Rhône, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, Alpes-Maritimes and parts of Hautes-Alpes. The Romans made the region into the first Roman province beyond the Alps, their Provincia Romana, the origin of its present name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provence
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#117685 Oct 15, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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muslims are exempt from Obamacare"
Look it up yourself.
Provence-
A territory governed as an administrative or political unit of a country or empire.
That's PROVINCE. Provence is a proper name only, denotes, as Johannes just informed you, a region of France with which, incidentally, I am well familiar.

Canada gained its independence in 1867, incidentally, and is neither a province nor a Provence, lol, of any country.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#117686 Oct 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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I don't know. You're the one who posted it. Why'd you do it? It was GWB-originated, delayed to March and signed by Obama who had the gun to him, bankruptcies looming, huge layoffs. But remember, read the whole thing next time, and notice that Brokaw had a lot of "buts" in his discourse.
Excusez-moi, when the president submits a budget request it goes to the ... Speaker of the House. If the Speaker is of the same party as the president it is usually amended very little by Speaker Pelosi is not only not in the same party as Bush, she is a radical progressive. The fact is Pelosi sat on the budget and it was not voted on at all in the House until after Bush left office. Further the deficit has grown by more than ONE TRILLION DOLLAE$. In other words, it was no longer the Bush budget. Obama owned it 100%.
FY2009 Budget Deficit
$407 billion (requested)[by Bush]
$1.413 trillion (enacted)[by Obama]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_Stat...
And the reverse is true when the Speaker is a Republican and the President a Democrat like under Gingrich and Clinton. If it was not for Newt, those four budgets would not have been balanced!!!
Any president can only sign into law bills that are passed by both Houses of Congress!

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#117687 Oct 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Quit stalling, just give the post number.
I wasn't aware you were talking.
Post number for what?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#117689 Oct 15, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And Snopes says it is true too. Thank you EPA!!!
http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/trainfi ...
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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If it is about Obama, they twist the issue. I just Googled "snopes obama college records" and this is what I got:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers ...
Ah, what does Obama's SSN have to do with his college records?
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You missed the point .... again. It is about Snopes. If it has anything to do with Obama, Snopes will twist it. When I talked about the rail road fire of 2009, they covered the issue but they will run, dodge and jump every issue on Obama!
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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What? Was Snopes trying to hide the railroad fire in 1982 because Obama was involved? Waht was Snope gaining by hiding the railroad fire?
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
You missed the point .... again..... and again It is about Snopes. If it has anything to do with Obama, Snopes will twist it. When I talked about the rail road fire posted on Snopes in 2009, they covered the issue but they will run, dodge and jump every issue on Obama!
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117690 Oct 15, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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I wasn't aware you were talking.
Post number for what?
The Stark refuses to admit that he lied even when confronted with the proof.

Folks, what we have here is a prime example of why NOBODY should ever trust a birther.

Back under your rock, Stark!!!!
Grand Birtther

Oregon, OH

#117691 Oct 15, 2012
Yup, Rogue Moron, every organization, institution, writer and citizen is in on the Big Birfoon Coverup, except birfoons of course.

BWAHHHH HA HA HA HA HA AH AH AH AHAHAHAHHHHHHH!
Jacques Ottawa

North York, Canada

#117693 Oct 15, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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I wasn't aware you were talking.
Post number for what?
Where you said Moslems were specifically exempted from Obamacare.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117694 Oct 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Where you said Moslems were specifically exempted from Obamacare.
It's obvious that not only does The Stark not have a brain, he also has no memory.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117695 Oct 15, 2012
The Stark can't face us 'cause he made a fool of himself.

Poor little Starky.....
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#117697 Oct 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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To me, hypothetical, to you, pure reality. We have a saying in "French", namely "tu rêves en couleur", or, "You dream in technicolour".(loosely translated, as sayings don't travel well in other tongues).
Did you answer this hypothetical situation? I'm guessing not and I know why.

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