Re: "Natural born citizen was never used specifically in regards to Wong Kim Ark's own status as a citizen.<quoted text>
1) Rhodes is not Ark, MORON!
2) Ark was a citizen, not Natural born, IDIOT!
Natural born citizen was never used specifically in regards to Wong Kim Ark's own status as a citizen.
The decision did not confirm that Ark was a Natural born citizen, only a citizen.
The Constitution of the United States, as originally adopted, uses the words "citizen of the United States," and "natural-born citizen of the United States." By the original Constitution, every representative in Congress is required to have been "seven years a citizen of the United States," and every Senator to have been "nine years a citizen of the United States." and "no person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President."
The Fourteenth Article of Amendment, besides declaring that all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,
So when you going to prove me wrong, Flaming Faggot?
The decision did not confirm that Ark was a Natural born citizen, only a citizen."
Absolutely correct. The US Supreme Court confirmed that Wong Kim Ark was a US citizen because it was a citizenship case, and the issue was whether or not he was a US citizen.
But the Wong Kim Ark ruling ALSO (have you heard the word "also" before?) defined the meaning of Natural Born Citizen. It said:
"It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established."
That says that the meaning of Natural Born comes from the common law (hence not from Vattel or from natural law). And it says that the meaning refers to the place of birth, thus not to the parents. And it says that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is Natural Born. And it says that the rule was used in Britain, and in the American colonies, and in the early states AND UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.
That is why constitutional scholars say:
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
And there have been seven state courts ruling on Obama and one that ruled on McCain, and every single one of them referred to the Wong Kim Ark ruling and said that it had defined Natural Born Citizen as every child born in the USA except for foreign diplomats. And the US Supreme Court has just turned down two birther appeals of one of those cases.