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#117404 Oct 14, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
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GOSH, YOU'RE IGNORANT. Do you understand what it means to be excommunicated latae sententiae? How many years of Latin did you take in college and prep school? Or are you some kind of really dumb PUBLIC school graduate?
Your IQ is so low you're tripping all over it.
Your claim that Ryan has been excommunicated is a complete fabrication.
Excommunication requires action on the part of the Church.

n Roman Catholic canon law, excommunication is a censure and thus a "medicinal penalty" intended to invite the person to change behavior or attitude, repent, and return to full communion.[1] It is not an "expiatory penalty" designed to make satisfaction for the wrong done, much less a "vindictive penalty" designed solely to punish.
Excommunication can be either latae sententiae (automatic, incurred at the moment of committing the offense for which canon law imposes that penalty) or ferendae sententiae (incurred only when imposed by a legitimate superior or declared as the sentence of an ecclesiastical court).[2]
Excommunicated Catholics are still Catholics and remain bound by obligations such as attending Mass, even though they are barred from receiving the Eucharist and from taking an active part in the liturgy (reading, bringing the offerings, etc.).[3] However, their communion with the Church is considered gravely impaired.[4] In spite of that, they are urged to retain a relationship with the Church, as the goal is to encourage them to repent and return to active participation in its life.
Excommunicated persons are barred from participating in the liturgy in a ministerial capacity (e.g., as a reader if a layperson or as a deacon or priest if a clergyman) and from receiving the Eucharist or other Sacraments, but they are not barred from attending these (e.g., an excommunicated person may not receive the Eucharist but is not barred from attending Mass). They are also forbidden to exercise any ecclesiastical office or the like.[5] These are the only effects for those who have incurred a latae sententiae excommunication. For instance, a priest may not refuse Communion publicly to those who are under merely automatic excommunication, even if he knows that they have incurred this kind of excommunication.[6]
However, if the excommunication has been imposed or declared, stricter effects follow, such as (1) the obligation on others to prevent the excommunicated person from acting in a ministerial capacity in the liturgy or, if this proves impossible, to suspend the liturgical service and (2) the invalidity of acts of ecclesiastical governance by the excommunicated person.[7] Those affected by this kind of excommunication are not to be admitted to Holy Communion[8](see canon 915).

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Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#117405 Oct 14, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Armour of God Prayer
Heavenly father I am ready to take my stand against the powers of darkness. Please help me to stand against the spiritual forces of evil that want to destroy my family, my Country, and me...
The Belt of Truth
I buckle the belt of truth around my waist. Help me be a person of truth and reliability. Please give me the words to say when people ask why I follow Jesus. Help me tell about Jesus' death and resurrection and his promise of eternal life to those who believe in him.
The Breastplate of Righteousness
Heavenly father in the name of Jesus I take the breastplate of righteousness. Thank you for giving me God's righteousness because I am not perfect. God graciously protects me with his own righteousness because&#65279; I believe in Jesus Christ.
Sword of the Spirit
I use the sword of the spirit, the word of God, in the name of Jesus. I thank You giving me Your word Lord, the good news of Jesus Christ, help me to tell others about Him. In&#65279; the name of Jesus I ask you to seal this prayer about my faith, equip me and confirm this prayer. I will stand guard against the powers of darkness, I will resist temptations and guard myself from vulnerable positions. I will pray persistently for my fellow believers in the authority of Jesus' name, deeded to me according to my Faith...The Armor of God Prayer
In Jesus' name I pray...
Amen <3
Thank you
Post #116,950
American Lady wrote:
"The Lord's Prayer
"Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM AND THE POWER AND THE GLORY, FOREVER AND EVER.
Amen Ü
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Terri Tanna wrote:
ďFor thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever.Ē
.
This beautiful exclamation is prayed at EVERY Roman Catholic Mass. However, it is not found ANYWHERE in sacred scripture. It certainly is not associated with the Lordís teaching on how to pray (ďThe Lordís PrayerĒ).
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7- In praying, do not babble like the pagans, who think that they will be heard because of their many words.
8- Do not be like them. Your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
The Lordís Prayer.
9-ďThis is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
10- your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as in heaven.
11- Give us today our daily bread;
12- and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors;
13- and do not subject us to the final test, but deliver us from the evil one.
14- If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you.
15- But if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your transgressions.
16-ďWhen you fast,* do not look gloomy like the hypocrites. They neglect their appearance,
so that they may appear to others to be fasting. Amen, I say to you, they have received their
reward.
Matthew 6:7-16
==
The Lordís Prayer
1- He was praying in a certain place, and when he had finished, one of his disciples said to him,ďLord, teach us to pray just as John taught his disciples.Ē
2- He said to them,ďWhen you pray, say:
Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come.
3- Give us each day our daily bread*
4- and forgive us our sins for we ourselves forgive everyone in debt to us, and do not subject us to the final test.Ē
5- And he said to them,ďSuppose one of you has a friend to whom he goes at midnight and says,ĎFriend, lend me three loaves of bread,
Luke 11:1-5
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It is clear in the above passages there is no doxology following the conclusion of the Lordís Prayer.

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#117406 Oct 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And just as soon as our economy really starts to turn,,,,,hyper-inflation!!!
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Well Tootsie, what happened when Carter left office? 14.8% March 1980!!! I wonder if that was one of the reasons Reagan bust Carters butt?
Johannes wrote:
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Yea, there's that Reagan again...the start of tripling the national debt.
But the Lifer gives him a pass 'cause he's a repub.
There you go again, talking and chewing gum at the same time. No, I gave Reagan a pass because he had a Democrat controlled Congress. But I will not give Bush a pass for his first six years because he had a Republican controlled Congress.
Now, when you start to understand cause and effect, let me know.

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#117408 Oct 14, 2012
Buy the way, I give JFK for getting us out of a recession in the early 1960's and wasn't JFK a ..... Democrat?

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#117410 Oct 14, 2012
Oh, if the inflation rate is higher than the GDP growth rate, we are in a recession ..... like we are right now.

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Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#117411 Oct 14, 2012
LRS wrote:
Just as the DJIA is not a measure of the U.S. economy.
THAT'S CORRECT. The DJIA really doesn't measure ANYTHING. It is never used by Economists.
jbountryboy08

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#117413 Oct 14, 2012
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jbountryboy08

Athens, AL

#117414 Oct 14, 2012
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Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#117415 Oct 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Tootsie, the peak of the market the DJIA was about 14,090 and we ain't there yet. The average market correction is 12-18 months and we are 60 months in to this one and the end is not in sight.
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So you can give Obama all the credit if you want and the results are mediocre at best.
Why do you continue to expose your ignorance of economics by referring to the DJIA as a measure of The Market?
Do you understand WHY the DJIA is a gravely FLAWED piece of data? OH, THAT'S RIGHT, you don't know ANYTHING about Statistics either.
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I have previously shown why your second statement is not only wrong, it is an outright LIE.
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Please explain to the Class how the greatest increase (the BEST ever in a presidential first term) in national wealth via the equity markets (121%) is mediocre.
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Part of your ignorance is that you use false words that you don't even understand and NEVER cite hard DATA with specific dates.

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Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#117416 Oct 14, 2012
Where is natural law written down, so that EVERYONE can read it? Why do you keep avoiding this most basic question? Is it because there is no natural law, that it is merely a construct? Who do you think first described natural law? Do you have any background as a natural law theorist as many people who went to real colleges are?

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Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#117418 Oct 14, 2012
Post #116,333
PAUL RYAN - WILLARD ROMNEY
Can anyone on this thread articulate a valid reason(s) to support our ticket's objective to reduce the national debt of our great United States?

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Since: Jul 09

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#117419 Oct 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The stock market started to tank seven month after the Democrats took over Congress. If anyone is to blame, it is Pelosi and Reid!
HOW IGNORANT you are about investments and Finance.
IF your statement were true (it is not), the market would have gone down the tubes at least six months earlier, because The Market is forward looking -- generally with a horizon of six to nine months.
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Have you ever read anything intelligent about how The Market operates? If so, please share the title(s) with the Class. Thank you.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#117420 Oct 14, 2012
~~~~~I Am a Christian~~~~~~~~

When I say I am a Christian
I am not shouting Iím clean living
Iím whispering I was lost
Now Iím found and forgiven

When I say I am a Christian
I donít speak of this with pride
Iím confessing that I stumble
and need Christ to be my guide

When I say I am a Christian
I am not trying to be strong
Iím professing that Iím weak
and need His strength to carry on

When I say I am a Christian
Iím not bragging of success
Iím admitting I have failed
and need God to clean my mess

When I say I am a Christian
I am not claiming to be perfect
My flaws are far too visible
But, God believes I am worth it

When I say I am a Christian
I still feel the sting of pain
I have my shares of heartaches
So I call upon His name

When I say I am a Christian
I Ďm not holier than thou
Iím just a simple sinner
Who received Godís good grace, somehow.

by ~ Carol Wimmer

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Since: Jul 09

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#117421 Oct 14, 2012
The Class is still waiting after more than three years for el grande birther to state what Obama's (purportedly fraudulent) SSN is. Will you at last reveal it this evening?

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#117422 Oct 14, 2012
President Starky wrote:
You claimed Paul Ryan was excommunicated.
If it were true, it would be a very big story and virtually every news agency would have covered it.
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
GOSH, YOU'RE IGNORANT. Do you understand what it means to be excommunicated latae sententiae? How many years of Latin did you take in college and prep school? Or are you some kind of really dumb PUBLIC school graduate?
Tunna excommunicated herself decades ago and she can 't stand it because every time she gets near any church she gets struck by lightning. Like smokin' hot!

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#117423 Oct 14, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Post #116,333
PAUL RYAN - WILLARD ROMNEY
Can anyone on this thread articulate a valid reason(s) to support our ticket's objective to reduce the national debt of our great United States?
Why teach, why don't you tell us,,,,, if you can?

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Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#117424 Oct 14, 2012
#114,409
Obama Gone In 2012 wrote:
Obama is responsible for ... almost 6 trillion in new deficit,
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Terri Tanna wrote:
Please explain to the Class in brief and simple terms how and why $6 TRILLION of new deficits is BAD for the United States under our economic circumstances in 2009-12. Thank you.
Please keep your explanation brief and straight forward using the universal language of Economics. If you choose, a simple Calculus algorithm would be helpful.
Guess this question is too difficult for el grande birther.

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#117425 Oct 14, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The stock market started to tank seven month after the Democrats took over Congress. If anyone is to blame, it is Pelosi and Reid!
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
HOW IGNORANT you are about investments and Finance.
IF your statement were true (it is not), the market would have gone down the tubes at least six months earlier, because The Market is forward looking -- generally with a horizon of six to nine months.
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Have you ever read anything intelligent about how The Market operates? If so, please share the title(s) with the Class. Thank you.
You right, just as soon as the markets saw Speaker San Fran Nan Pelosi's first budget, they knew that there would be little profit the following year.
You do know that Budgets go into effect on October 1st, don't you? And when did the market start down????
Cause and Efect, Cause and Effect. Well, since you are not the Virgin Mary, did you get pregnant before or after you got screwed?

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Since: Jul 09

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#117426 Oct 14, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"MORE ECONOMIC IGNORANCE.
"It is impossible for the United States to have meaningful inflation at this time. You can prove that for yourself by telling the Class the conditions precedent (using that term correctly) for inflation to occur. OH, SORRY, you don't know because you have NEVER read anything on economics nor do you understand ANYTHING about The Calculus."
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And just as soon as our economy really starts to turn,,,,,hyper-inflation!!!
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what happened when Carter left office? 14.8% March 1980!!!
You continue to expose your total lack of ANY knowledge about Economics.
Do you have any idea what the cause of inflation is? Obviously, you don't. Do you understand that inflation can only occur under certain conditions precedent? Obviously, you are completely ignorant about this.

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