BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

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SO SADLY, Paul Ryan, our vice presidential candidate, botched the debate by his embarrassing ignorance in two key areas:
1- foreign policy
2- macroeconomics and U.S. economic policy.
How could someone such as Ryan lose so ignominiously to Mr. Gaffe. More scary -- Ryan knows infinitely more about macroeconomics than does Willard, who has never studied it seriously.

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Terri Tanna wrote:
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Do you agree that, if a minor (under 18-years of age) is born and raised in the United States of America, she comes under the jurisdiction of the Constitution and can, therefore, vote or be drafted while she is still a minor child? You do agree, don't you?"
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Justice Dale wrote:
Only if her father was a citizen of the US.
Terri Tanna wrote:
The really stupid and uneducated birfoon argues that a six-year old child can vote and be drafted into the United States army "IF her father was[is] a citizen of the US."
REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM.
Hee hee.

Dale didn't see it until it hit him in the nose.(He still doesn't see it, even though the egg is stuck to his face and the crow is on his plate.)

Touché Terry.

That was entertaining.

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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Bullshit, does that mean a child born here of a visiting alien is a temporary citizen. I can live with that, we just roundup their asses and send them home, where their citizenship is permanent.
There is no such thing as a temporary citizen.

Sorry, BirfoonBoy, the child is born subject to the jurisdiction thereof, without regard to the parent's political condition (with the exception of foreign ambassadors, etc.) The child's citizenship does not depend upon the parent's condition. Never has, and unless there is an amendment, never will.

Sorry, that's the LAW. If you want to change it, get an amendment.
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Visiting aliens are under the protection of the US while here, and reciprocally owe temporary allegiance to the US. According to OUR law, they cannot vote, and according to OUR law they are not eligible for the draft.
And if they violate OUR law, they are subject to the consequences.
Grow up!
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Terri Tanna wrote:
SO SADLY, Paul Ryan, our vice presidential candidate, botched the debate by his embarrassing ignorance in two key areas:
1- foreign policy
2- macroeconomics and U.S. economic policy.
How could someone such as Ryan lose so ignominiously to Mr. Gaffe. More scary -- Ryan knows infinitely more about macroeconomics than does Willard, who has never studied it seriously.
Hmm, I thought Biden made a true ass of himself all debate long. Constantly showing off his dentures while Ryan was speaking then going on to interrupt him. Biden came off just as he reall is, a dumbazz.
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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<quoted text>Sorry, I have not worn any ring since 1975 when I developed Psoriatic arthritis. Nor have I worn an wrist watch, band, bracelet, etc.
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Knew I could count on you ..to laugh at a handicapped person.
Sooo you think it is funny that I have psoriatic arthritis?
Just ask Phil Michelson how fun it is. And the only thing more incompetent than an Army doctor is a VA doctor.
You wrote : "Knew I could count on you ..to laugh at a handicapped person." Nerve, the nerve! First of all, that is a minor handicap compared to the millions of severely mentally-handicapped persons when you use the "tard" (Rogue, tm reg'D) lib and idiot occu. You call people you don't like "tards", and it's not meant as a compliment. For shame.
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*really

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wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
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Again, who says he purchased it?
The fact is you don't know how he acquired the ring.
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Who says he didn't purchase it?
Do you know for a fact that he did not?
Maybe he stole it.

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President Starky wrote:
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It would be an incredible coincidence that a man who lived and went to a muslim school in a muslim country had a muslim father would accidentally purchase a ring with the muslim saying that there is no god but allah.
wojar wrote:
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Who says he purchased it?
And I was not aware Obama attended a Moslem school. Where? In Indonesia? His book said he went to a private catholic shcool whilst there.

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Terri Tanna wrote:
President Starky wrote:
"Then again, maybe the U.S. taxpayer bought it like we have everything else rouge and Frank owns."
"Terri Tanna" Wrote:
I have a degree in easy bake oven.
Gobble,Gobble.

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Terri Tanna wrote:
SO SADLY, Paul Ryan, our vice presidential candidate, botched the debate by his embarrassing ignorance in two key areas:
1- foreign policy
2- macroeconomics and U.S. economic policy.
How could someone such as Ryan lose so ignominiously to Mr. Gaffe. More scary -- Ryan knows infinitely more about macroeconomics than does Willard, who has never studied it seriously.
I agree.

I heard he was such a wonk, and, so many people thought that would be an advantage. He couldn't get his message across. Does he know what his message is?

Biden ate his lunch.

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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Gettinghot and bothered, eh? Couldn't finish it ,eh? Switched to your one and only lover, hellooooo, hand.
I understand your bewilderment and why you cannot think of women as sexy.
Perhaps they have songs in Cantnada about little boys to help you out.
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>It is a full-blown invasion!
You're correct, sadly.
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Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>International law is the set of rules generally regarded and accepted as binding in relations between states and nations, a treaty is a good example.
False. Take, for example, extraditions treaties. They are executed when it suits both parties only. We have had such a treaty with the U.S. for decades now. Yet, we extradited not one draft dodger who came to Canada during the Vietnam war even though there was a request for every single one of them from the U.S. Also, we will not extradite, not even American murderers arrested in Canada, unless, if subsequently found guilty in U.S. courts, the death penalty is waived by U.S. authorities. Never mind whether we agree or not with those decisions, I am only stating facts. Many other such examples come to mind between other countries that have extradition treaties.

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President Starky wrote:
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Who says he didn't purchase it?
Do you know for a fact that he did not?
Maybe he stole it.
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First the Birfoon suggested he purchased it, and then that he stole it.

The fact is the Birfoon is clueless.

Jagoff Birfoon: "It would be an incredible coincidence that a man who lived and went to a muslim school in a muslim country had a muslim father would accidentally PURCHASE A RING with the muslim saying that there is no god but allah."

Got Alzheimer's?

You made the claim, you own it. Burden is on you, MORON.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>(emphasis added)
Again, who says he purchased it?
The fact is you don't know how he acquired the ring.

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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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False. Take, for example, extraditions treaties. They are executed when it suits both parties only. We have had such a treaty with the U.S. for decades now. Yet, we extradited not one draft dodger who came to Canada during the Vietnam war even though there was a request for every single one of them from the U.S. Also, we will not extradite, not even American murderers arrested in Canada, unless, if subsequently found guilty in U.S. courts, the death penalty is waived by U.S. authorities. Never mind whether we agree or not with those decisions, I am only stating facts. Many other such examples come to mind between other countries that have extradition treaties.
I'm sorry, Jacques, but according to PLAY LAW you are incorrect. If you don't believe me just ask Dale.

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wojar wrote:
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First the Birfoon suggested he purchased it, and then that he stole it.
The fact is the Birfoon is clueless.
Jagoff Birfoon: "It would be an incredible coincidence that a man who lived and went to a muslim school in a muslim country had a muslim father would accidentally PURCHASE A RING with the muslim saying that there is no god but allah."
Got Alzheimer's?
You made the claim, you own it. Burden is on you, MORON.
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You have a link proving he didn't buy it?
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President Starky wrote:
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I understand your bewilderment and why you cannot think of women as sexy.
Perhaps they have songs in Cantnada about little boys to help you out.
Lame, not satisfactory. At all. Join your birther comrade LRS in the corner. Wait, don't forget your pointy dunce hat.
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wojar wrote:
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And James Madison was wrong?
“It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.”–James Madison
The court in Gardner v. Ward was wrong?
Garder v. Ward, 2 Mass. 244 (1805)
“The doctrine of the common law is that every man born within its jurisdiction is a subject of the sovereign of the country where he is born, and allegiance is not personal to the sovereign in the extent that has been contended for; it is due to him in his political capacity of sovereign of the territory where the person owing the allegiance as born.
Zephaniah Swift was wrong?
“that a man born within the jurisdiction of the common law is a citizen of the country wherein he is born. By this circumstance of his birth, he is subjected to the duty of allegiance which is claimed and enforced by the sovereign of his native land, and becomes reciprocally entitled to the protection of that sovereign, and to the other rights and advantages which are included in the term ‘citizenship.’” A System of the Laws of the State of Connecticut: Zephaniah Swift, In Six Book, pg. 163,167 (1795).
The high court of Kentucky was wrong in 1822?
Amy v. Smith, 11 Ky. 326, 340 (Ky. 1822)
“The country where one is born, how accidental soever his birth in that place may have been, and although his parents belong to another country, is that to which he owes allegiance. Hence the expression natural born subject or citizen, & all the relations thereout growing. To this there are but few exceptions, and they are mostly introduced by statutes and treaty regulations, such as the children of seamen and ambassadors born abroad, and the like.”
The Oregon District Court was wrong?
Ex parte Chin King 13 Sawyer 333 (Oregon District June 25, 1888).“By the common law, a child born within the allegiance —the jurisdiction—of the United States, is born a subject or citizen thereof, without reference to the political status or condition of its parents.”
Supreme Court Justice Noah H. Swayne was wrong, along with the concurring judges in the appellate court of Kentucky?
“All persons born in the allegiance of the King are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.… We find no warrant for the opinion that this great principle of the common law has ever been changed in the United States.” U. S. v. Rhodes, 1 Abb.U.S. 28, 1 Am. Law T. Rep. U.S. Cts. 22, 7 Am. Law Reg.(N.S.) 233, 27 F.Cas. 785, No. 16,151 (C.C.D.Ky. 1866)
But ignorant BirfoonBoy says they are all wrong throughout the history of this country.
Grow up!
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I don't care what kind of case you post, if he was born the son of a Kenyan then he is a Kenyan. His father's allegiance was to his homeland, just as his son's. Watch cha cookin' up tonight Mobarf? Better back off on the juicing, I'm tellin' ya.
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First debate :

Romney 60, Obama 40

Second debate :

Biden 85, Ryan 15

No contest.
LRS

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How do you flappers reach such heights of lunacy? LOL Cya...

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