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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#116481 Oct 12, 2012
Overnight Open Thread (10-11-2012)
—Maetenloch

Lemon Juice and the Dunning-Kruger Effect

The Dunning-Kruger effect has been mentioned quite a few times on the blog. The short version of it is that truly incompetent people are so incompetent that they're also unable to even perceive that they're incompetent i.e. they don't know what they don't know and think they're actually pretty good.

And the original paper actually references an example of it involving a robbery FAIL:

In 1995, McArthur Wheeler walked into two Pittsburgh banks and robbed them in broad daylight, with no visible attempt at disguise. He was arrested later that night, less than an hour after videotapes of him taken from surveillance cameras were broadcast on the 11 o'clock news. When police later showed him the surveillance tapes, Mr. Wheeler stared in incredulity. "But I wore the juice" he mumbled. Apparently, Mr. Wheeler was under the impression that rubbing one's face with lemon juice rendered it invisible to videotape cameras (Fuocco, 1996).
And in fact Mr. Wheeler had tested his lemon juice disguise with a Polaroid camera but was too stupid to realize that he had screwed up his test. Leading the authors to state their main point:

Perhaps more controversial is the third point, the one that is the focus of this article. We argue that when people are incompetent in the strategies they adopt to achieve success and satisfaction, they suffer a dual burden: Not only do they reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it. Instead, like Mr. Wheeler, they are left with the mistaken impression that they are doing just fine. As Miller (1993) perceptively observed in the quote that opens this article, and as Charles Darwin (1871) sagely noted over a century ago, "ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" (p. 3).
Joe Biden's debate performance (and entire career) is proof that those afflicted with DK syndrome can still lead happy fulfilling lives and even hope to become president one day.
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#116482 Oct 12, 2012
LRS wrote:
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As I said last night, I thought it was a wash with an edge going to Biden for being an azz. Looks like the Communist News Network agrees with me. Poor old Joe.....but Martha, Martha, Martha! LMAO
I think the Looney-tooney-left gives their side the edge based of the azz-hole factor. The problem is they do not realize that the the Independent vote, the azz-hole factor is a negative.

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#116483 Oct 12, 2012
October 12, 2012
Proverb of the Day
—Ace

Proverbs 29:9

When a wise man has a controversy with a foolish man, The foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest.

Via Twitchy, from @RightInAmerica.

I re-watched it. It was like having an argument with your drunk, blowhard, dullwitted uncle at Thanksgiving. And your drunk blowhard dullwitted uncle, who is superior to you only in age, keeps asserting he's right about everything by shouting "I WAS THERE!!!"

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#116484 Oct 12, 2012
It is safe to assume that all of us on this forum have above average IQ's to include Jacques. The problem with many people with above average IQ is that many of us are some what nerdy.
I have a brother-in-law who is a graduate of Rice and has a degree as a chemical engineer and works in the petroleum field and make$ mega-buck$. But he has a hobby of model rocketry which many people see as ....nerdy. In fact I went to a National Model Rocketry in Houston a dozen or so years ago and a lot of them were,,,, yes,,, nerdy. And I am sure that in junior high school some other kids called the "retards" or just plain "tard" and maybe that is Jacques case which makes him super sensitiveness to anything with "-tard" in it.
Sorry Jacques, Libtard has nothing to do with your IQ or education. It has to do with your commonsense and nothing else. get over it!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#116485 Oct 12, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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I think the Looney-tooney-left gives their side the edge based of the azz-hole factor. The problem is they do not realize that the the Independent vote, the azz-hole factor is a negative.
It's that very attitude that the people are sick of but the Dims seem to think it's appealing. Imagine that! The Dims on this board display the same azzhole quality day in and day out.

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#116486 Oct 12, 2012
Some of you may know that I was born in Northern Maine but, being an Army Brat, moved all over. But I still keep up on Maine politics. Maine is a left of center state and even most Republicans up thar are centrists at best.
Well, in 2010 Paul LePage was voted in as Governor and he is not only a Republican, but he is also a fiscal conservative and the whole state is now leaning that way. Olympia Snowe, who has been a Senator for ages, retired as she saw the hand writing on the wall. The senate seat is still up in the air but it looks like Maine will go for Romney as president.
Maine is one of only two states who are not all-or-nothing states as their electoral college is selected at the Congressional district level so there is often a split vote.
I seriously doubt Obama will win all four of Maine's Electoral College votes this year.

Romney Leads Obama 49-44...
—CAC

In Maine's 2nd Congressional District.

You all want a real white whale? the 2nd Congressional District is the ultimate, long rumored to be more Republican than the rest of the Land of [Sen. Olypia] Snowe, and thanks to redistricting, it apparently is. Maine is only one of two states that awards electoral votes to congressional district winners, the other is Nebraska, which gave McCain his final election 2008 kick-in-the-balls by awarding the 2nd district's EV to President Obama.

Obama leads in the statewide poll 48%-44%, still very close.

Flipping this would almost make up for Obamaha in 2008.

Almost.

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#116487 Oct 12, 2012
Maine may only 4 Electoral College votes but Florida has ..... 29. Now I do not give this poll the same weight as a Rasmussen poll but ....!

Times/Bay News 9/Herald exclusive Florida poll: Romney 51, Obama 44

By Adam C. Smith, Times Political Editor
Posted: Oct 11, 2012

Barack Obama's lackluster debate performance last week has dramatically altered the presidential race in Florida, with Mitt Romney opening up a decisive 7 percentage point lead, according to a new Tampa Bay Times/Bay News 9/Miami Herald poll.

The survey conducted this week found 51 percent of likely Florida voters supporting Romney, 44 percent backing Obama and 4 percent undecided. That's a major shift from a month ago when the same poll showed Obama leading 48 percent to 47 percent — and a direct result of what Obama himself called a "bad night" at the first debate.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/nationa...

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#116488 Oct 12, 2012
This is from four years ago and I think Obama's light has dimmed! No light at the end of his tunnel!!!

Is Obama an enlightened being?/ Spiritual wise ones say: This sure ain't no ordinary politician. You buying it?
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Published 4:00 a.m., Friday, June 6, 2008

...

Barack Obama isn't really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway.

...

Dismiss it all you like, but I've heard from far too many enormously smart, wise, spiritually attuned people who've been intuitively blown away by Obama's presence - not speeches, not policies, but sheer presence - to say it's just a clever marketing ploy, a slick gambit carefully orchestrated by hotshot campaign organizers...

Here's where it gets gooey. Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.

The unusual thing is, true Lightworkers almost never appear on such a brutal, spiritually demeaning stage as national politics. This is why Obama is so rare....

There's a vast amount of positive energy swirling about that's been held back by the armies of BushCo darkness, and this energy has now found a conduit, a lightning rod, is now effortlessly self-organizing around Obama's candidacy. People and emotions and ideas of high and positive vibration are automatically drawn to him. It's exactly like how Bush was a magnet for the low vibrational energies of fear and war and oppression and aggression, but, you know, completely reversed. And different. And far, far better.

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#116489 Oct 12, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Wojar, why are you debating the inmate? Now, this poor birther does not want you to prove Obama bought it. No. He wants you to prove he DIDN'T buy it.?????? Who can forget that trial in Catch 22 with the bloated Colonel and the corporal who could take shorthand? The colonel didn't want to know what Yossarian said to the other guy in the washroom, no, he wanted to know what Yossarian DIDN'T say to the other guy. The loonies have taken over the asylum, and Starky is IT.
And you bash me for using "Libtard"?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#116490 Oct 12, 2012
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You don't care the opinion of James Madison, and courts in the days right after the country was founded?
You don't care what every court has held throughout the history of this nation?
Madison was a founding father who spoke directly to the issue. The Courts of the United States are authorities.
You are a schizophrenic birfoon.
Who cares what you think? What force of law has your opinion? ZIPPITY, BUPKUS, NADA, ZERO.
But ignorant BirfoonBoy says they are all wrong throughout the history of this country.
Grow up!
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Now I'm impressed! Mobarf can make a diagnosis of schizophrenia from reading a post on TOPIX!!!!!! LMAO Stoolpigeon.
fadfas

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#116491 Oct 12, 2012
romney is so bad... a better candidate who isnt from this country will get more votes... haha shows republitards.
Jacques Ottawa

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#116492 Oct 12, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I have not worn any ring since 1975 when I developed Psoriatic arthritis. Nor have I worn an wrist watch, band, bracelet, etc.
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Knew I could count on you ..to laugh at a handicapped person.
Sooo you think it is funny that I have psoriatic arthritis?
Just ask Phil Michelson how fun it is. And the only thing more incompetent than an Army doctor is a VA doctor.
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And you know perfectly well that "-tard" does not mean "retarded".
My definition of Libtard is not someone with a low IQ but someone with a low CQ (Commonsense Quotient). I had a soldier who had a 76 IQ in my unit in Korea and he did good work. Sure he would never be a good sergeant but he could follow simple instructions and do the work.
Oh, Jimmy Carter authorized re recruiting of Mental Category IV's (IQ between 70-90). I also had a buck sergeant who could add and subtract, but could not do simple multiplication and division). He had NO equipment manuals in our POL section and after I ordered them, he could not understand how to use them to put the equipment together.
We had set up a FARP and I noticed a 4" return line was not connected tom the 5,000 gallon fuel tanker and I brought it to his attention. I turned my back on him and he put the FOUR-INCH JP-4 line between his legs and pulled the dog-ears that kept the cap on the line and ........ their was a fountain of JP-4. We had spilled over 100 gallons of jet fuel before we got the pump shut off.
That is all you need is a large fuel spill right next to a 5,000 gallon tanker with pumps running (boooooom!)
Oh, he also had the ugliest Korean girl friend. Anyone who wanted a girl friend in Korea could get one, and one that was pretty good looking too. I mean, if she was raised on a rice farm, she would do anything for a new life and marrying a GI was a ticket off of the rice farm. So for a GI to end up with an ugly girl is .... almost unheard of.
"Tard" is short for "retarded". Correct.

Now go look in any dictionary for the definition of "retarded". And not in your "urban dictionary for 'tard'".

Oxford dictionary. RETARDED : Backward in physical or mental development.

Even if you had the slightest doubt as to the meaning of that word, and you should not, you should stop using it forthwith.
Jacques Ottawa

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#116493 Oct 12, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
It is safe to assume that all of us on this forum have above average IQ's to include Jacques. The problem with many people with above average IQ is that many of us are some what nerdy.
I have a brother-in-law who is a graduate of Rice and has a degree as a chemical engineer and works in the petroleum field and make$ mega-buck$. But he has a hobby of model rocketry which many people see as ....nerdy. In fact I went to a National Model Rocketry in Houston a dozen or so years ago and a lot of them were,,,, yes,,, nerdy. And I am sure that in junior high school some other kids called the "retards" or just plain "tard" and maybe that is Jacques case which makes him super sensitiveness to anything with "-tard" in it.
Sorry Jacques, Libtard has nothing to do with your IQ or education. It has to do with your commonsense and nothing else. get over it!
I don't play the I.Q. game, sorry. I know what mine is, but that is for me to know. And I don't think I'm qualified to guess what yours or anyone else's is.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#116494 Oct 12, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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And you bash me for using "Libtard"?
Please identify the word I used that even approximates "libtard".

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#116495 Oct 12, 2012
Command Sgt. Major Basil L. Plumley died yesterday. Just in case you do not know who he was, Sam Elliot played his part in the movie 'We were soldiers'
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We Were Soldiers - Sgt Major Plumley [Sam Ekkiot]
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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The patch on their shoulders was the 11th Airborne Division which became the 1st Calvary Division (Air Mobile) before the unit went to Vietnam. The movie does not explain it and you would not probably understand it unless you knew the shoulder patches.

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#116496 Oct 12, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Wojar, why are you debating the inmate? Now, this poor birther does not want you to prove Obama bought it. No. He wants you to prove he DIDN'T buy it.?????? Who can forget that trial in Catch 22 with the bloated Colonel and the corporal who could take shorthand? The colonel didn't want to know what Yossarian said to the other guy in the washroom, no, he wanted to know what Yossarian DIDN'T say to the other guy. The loonies have taken over the asylum, and Starky is IT.
....
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And you bash me for using "Libtard"?
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Please identify the word I used that even approximates "libtard".
Do you deny bashing me for using the word "Libtard"?(I always capitalize it)

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#116497 Oct 12, 2012
Even AP is turning on Obama/O'Biden! It is all over for the Dems except for the Whaling and Nashing of Teeth!

FACT CHECK: Slips in vice president's debate
By CALVIN WOODWARD | Associated Press –

WASHINGTON (AP)— Anyone who paid attention to a hearing in Congress this week knew that the administration had been implored to beef up security at the U.S. Consulate in Libya before the deadly terrorist attack there. But in the vice presidential debate Thursday night, Joe Biden seemed unaware.
"We weren't told they wanted more security there," the vice president asserted flatly. During a night in which Biden and Republican rival Paul Ryan both drifted from the facts on a range of domestic and foreign issues, that was a standout.
A look at some of their claims:
BIDEN: "Well, we weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again. And by the way, at the time we were told exactly — we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. That was the assessment. And as the intelligence community changed their view, we made it clear they changed their view."
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-slips-vice-p...
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#116498 Oct 12, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>Please identify the word I used that even approximates "libtard".
Oh Jacques. You come from "overseas". Your silly opinions are of no consequence.(I was shocked to hear Ryan say that he also came from overseas, I think he misplaced a comma)
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#116499 Oct 12, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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"Tard" is short for "retarded". Correct.
Now go look in any dictionary for the definition of "retarded". And not in your "urban dictionary for 'tard'".
Oxford dictionary. RETARDED : Backward in physical or mental development.
Even if you had the slightest doubt as to the meaning of that word, and you should not, you should stop using it forthwith.
You dipshat. Have you ever heard of retarding the timing of an engine? Probably not. You're going to have to peer over the side of that shoebox sooner or later. Clueless! Dolt.

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