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“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#116123 Oct 10, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
“Doubtless, the intention of the congress which framed, and of the states which adopted, this amendment of the constitution, must be sought in the words of the amendment, and the debates in congress are not admissible as evidence to control the meaning of those words.”
Justice Gray, WKA v. US (1898)
How stupid of you to cite an authority completely contrary to your decidedly unlearned BS.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#116124 Oct 10, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
When was the Council of Trent?
Or Vatican II?

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#116125 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
But Republican vote fraud is rampant especially in Du Page County, IL.
That is throughout Illinois where JFK barely won in '60 but then Nixon suspiciously didn't want a recount. Rampant voter-fraud on both sides? If there would have been a recount in Minnesota in 1984 Mondale would have even lost there. JFK & Reagan were the will of the electorate but most elections are really selections for the Illuminati/Freemasons.
Winston

San Jose, CA

#116126 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why are such an intellectual midget to raise irrelevant and legally nondispositive colloquy?
Is it because you have never studied and, therefore, know NOTHING about constitutional law?
Name the most important book -- in your opinion -- on the Constitution. Thank you.
"Then why are such an intellectual midget to raise irrelevant and legally nondispositive colloquy?"

Is English your second language? Your grammar leaves one to wonder.

Is Joliette the gated community you speak so highly of?
Bawahahahaha

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#116127 Oct 10, 2012
President Starky wrote:
I'm not going to have the age old argument with you as to whether the founders were inspired by John Locke-Thomas Hobbes-or Thomas Paine, or the difference between legal rights vs Unalienable rights.
Do your own homework.
I have posted extensively on this subject. Sorry that you can't even identify the primary antecedents for our inspirational Declaration. Whether you call it natural law or not, your posts expose your complete lack of erudition on this subject. How pathetic to not have been admitted even to a JUNIOR college.

“The end justifies the means”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#116128 Oct 10, 2012
BHO will still be re-elected

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#116129 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Please explain by REFERENCE to any controlling statute how 'international law' is enforceable. Thank you."
====
Justice Dale wrote:
Mustafa Kamel Mustafa, 54, entered the plea shortly before U.S. District Judge Katherine B. Forrest set an Aug. 26 trial date. Mustafa, widely known by the name Abu Hamza al-Masri, is also accused of helping abduct 16 hostages, two of them American tourists, in Yemen in 1998.
Accomplished with an Extradition Treaty with Great Britain.
GREAT. You prove yourself to be really stupid since none of your post deals with INTERNATIONAL LAW -- only a treaty.
Please explain to the Class where INTERNATIONAL LAW is written down, as is the case with our sacred Constitution. Thank you.

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#116130 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
There is much Roman Catholicism that is not in the Bible. It is called Tradition. Muhammed is recognized as a great prophet of the God of Abraham (Allah) in Tradition.
Dare you to cite any legit authority to the contrary. YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU ARE UNEDUCATED, and have no idea what authority is. Heck, you were so stupid you couldn't get into junior college and were doomed to 20+ years as a grunt.
BS!
Allah is not nor has IT ever been the god of Abraham.
Allah is the Arab moon god and has never had any connection with the God of Abraham.
Mohammad was a pedophile.

"The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.,

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.

The religion of ancient Israel was based on revelation; the Old Testament says that God appeared in diverse places and spoke to the Patriarchs; there they raised altars of undressed stones, called Beth-el—or House of God. Man's sensual imagination soon led him "to collect his gods in the dust and fashion them as he pleased," imagining that God resided in these Stones. Thus it became Beth-aven or House of Vanity. Beth-el abounded in Chaldea, Asia, Egypt, Africa, Greece, in remote parts of Europe, among the Druids, Gauls, and Celto-Scythians, and in North and South America.

In the Hebrew language, stones fallen from the sky are called Bethel (Heb. "House of God"). After dreaming of a ladder reaching to heaven, Jacob called his stone pillow a Bethel-stone (Genesis 28:10-22).

"The Pagans imitated the Beth-el of Jacob and consecrated them with oil and blood, making them gods, calling them Betyles (betylus, baetyl, betyles). In classical antiquity a stone, either natural or artificially shaped, venerated as of divine origin, or as a symbol of divinity. There were a number of these sacred stones in Greece, the most famous being on the omphalos at Delphi. Likewise there were the so-called animated or oracular stones. "Strabo, Pliny, Helancius (Hellanicus) or Beth-al-Jupiter, Cybele, Venus, Mithras). The greater part of the natural Betyles were the black meteorites or fire-balls fallen from the heavens and regarded by the Sabeists as heavenly divinities. These meteorites were the Cabiri, and the Pelasgi—whose most noted worshippers were wandering or dispersed men" (The Trail of the Serpent, by Inquire Within, Boswell Publishing Co., Limited, London (1936) p. 10).

Meteorites-cults are common in Greco-Roman civilizations. According to the religious historian Mircea Eliade, the Temple of Artemis (Diana) at Ephesus contained a squat statue of the mother-goddess, carved from a meteorite that fell from Jupiter (Acts 19:26-35). The Palladium of Troy and the conic black stone or (Baetyl) of Elagabal in Emesa, Syria, are believed to be of meteoric origin. Likewise, the Phrygian mother goddess Cybele worshipped in Pessinus (later Rome) was a stone; doubtless a meteorite. A further example is the meteorite of Pessinunt in Phrygia, which was worshipped as "the needle of Cybele," brought to Rome in a powerful procession after the Punic war on advice from the Delphic oracle; there the meteorite was worshipped as a fertility goddess for further 500 years.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#116131 Oct 10, 2012
President Starky wrote:
Anyone who thinks they know their own IQ and goes around spouting a number , is obviously not even intelligent to know that only a moron would do such a thing.
2012
You must be confusing me with another poster. I have never stated anything about IQs.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#116132 Oct 10, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Children cannot be taxed with military duty. Paraplegics cannot be taxed with military duty.
UR an idiot.
don't be stupid!
Childern can't be taxed, until 18.
Paraplegics don't meet the standards.
Aliens aren't citizens.

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#116133 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
There is much Roman Catholicism that is not in the Bible. It is called Tradition. Muhammed is recognized as a great prophet of the God of Abraham (Allah) in Tradition.
Dare you to cite any legit authority to the contrary. YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU ARE UNEDUCATED, and have no idea what authority is. Heck, you were so stupid you couldn't get into junior college and were doomed to 20+ years as a grunt.
BS!
The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.,

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.

The religion of ancient Israel was based on revelation; the Old Testament says that God appeared in diverse places and spoke to the Patriarchs; there they raised altars of undressed stones, called Beth-el—or House of God. Man's sensual imagination soon led him "to collect his gods in the dust and fashion them as he pleased," imagining that God resided in these Stones. Thus it became Beth-aven or House of Vanity. Beth-el abounded in Chaldea, Asia, Egypt, Africa, Greece, in remote parts of Europe, among the Druids, Gauls, and Celto-Scythians, and in North and South America.

In the Hebrew language, stones fallen from the sky are called Bethel (Heb. "House of God"). After dreaming of a ladder reaching to heaven, Jacob called his stone pillow a Bethel-stone (Genesis 28:10-22).

"The Pagans imitated the Beth-el of Jacob and consecrated them with oil and blood, making them gods, calling them Betyles (betylus, baetyl, betyles). In classical antiquity a stone, either natural or artificially shaped, venerated as of divine origin, or as a symbol of divinity. There were a number of these sacred stones in Greece, the most famous being on the omphalos at Delphi. Likewise there were the so-called animated or oracular stones. "Strabo, Pliny, Helancius (Hellanicus) or Beth-al-Jupiter, Cybele, Venus, Mithras). The greater part of the natural Betyles were the black meteorites or fire-balls fallen from the heavens and regarded by the Sabeists as heavenly divinities. These meteorites were the Cabiri, and the Pelasgi—whose most noted worshippers were wandering or dispersed men" (The Trail of the Serpent, by Inquire Within, Boswell Publishing Co., Limited, London (1936) p. 10).

Meteorites-cults are common in Greco-Roman civilizations. According to the religious historian Mircea Eliade, the Temple of Artemis (Diana) at Ephesus contained a squat statue of the mother-goddess, carved from a meteorite that fell from Jupiter (Acts 19:26-35). The Palladium of Troy and the conic black stone or (Baetyl) of Elagabal in Emesa, Syria, are believed to be of meteoric origin. Likewise, the Phrygian mother goddess Cybele worshipped in Pessinus (later Rome) was a stone; doubtless a meteorite. A further example is the meteorite of Pessinunt in Phrygia, which was worshipped as "the needle of Cybele," brought to Rome in a powerful procession after the Punic war on advice from the Delphic oracle; there the meteorite was worshipped as a fertility goddess for further 500 years.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#116134 Oct 10, 2012
TO: The “Birther” Participants on this Site
Recognizing that your children are the future of the United States, please tell the class what are the most important secondary sources and writings that you insist that your children study in each of the following areas:
• The United States Constitution and constitutional law
• American History
• Economics especially macroeconomics
• The Law
• Politics.
Do you think it is important that your children study these subjects in a serious manner, for example, at college under the instruction of a learned professor who is a recognized scholar?

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#116135 Oct 10, 2012
Alias50 wrote:
BHO will still be re-elected
You mean "selected".

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#116136 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
I have posted extensively on this subject. Sorry that you can't even identify the primary antecedents for our inspirational Declaration. Whether you call it natural law or not, your posts expose your complete lack of erudition on this subject. How pathetic to not have been admitted even to a JUNIOR college.
Easy bake.
So now you flatter yourself as to believe that I read your posts?
LOL
If you'd scroll past my posts without stopping to stink up the room, you wouldn't get a word from me.
Think of it this way, next time you're in a bar swilling booze, sit in front of a table with hot chicks at it, then watch as men walk in and you'll think they're looking in your direction, but they are really looking right past you.
"Stuff;s gettin better"
2012

“Stuffs gettin better ”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#116137 Oct 10, 2012
Alias50 wrote:
BHO will still be re-elected
LOL
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#116138 Oct 10, 2012
Birfers, why are aliens protected under the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause.

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#116139 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be confusing me with another poster. I have never stated anything about IQs.
When I retook my IQ-Test at age 30 my IQ went down 2-pts from 119 to 117. The testprovider said "It's not IQ it's I will". That offered me little comfort but determination does mean a lot more than any degree or paper test.
At 18 I had no means to attend even a junior college until after I served in the Marines during 'nam. I have a B.S. in Military Science and some post-grad credits now. More than anything I learned how to do research and investigation. That degree has really done since I retired from the military as an Infantryman (grunt) after serving as Legal NCO, Gunnery Sgt, and Computer Operator on the old IBM 1401s. It appears to me that success in life is really about outlook, attitude, perseverence and personality. Hence us pessimistic outsiders seldom succeed. Oh well. At least I found the Lord before it was too late.

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#116140 Oct 10, 2012
degree has done little for me is what I meant
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#116141 Oct 10, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is the CONSTITUTION does it discuss military duty as a tax?
The 14th amendment, just part of the bundle of being subject to the jurisdiction, thereof!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#116142 Oct 10, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
Under your convoluted theory they are immune to prosecution under the US Constitution. They are not under its jurisdiction.
They aren't under the Jurisdiction of the US Constitution, but can be prosecuted under federal, state and local laws.

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