BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101612 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
The Lord's Prayer
For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever.
What an incredibly uneducated post. The poster takes it upon her/himself to add words to sacred scripture that WERE NEVER SPOKEN by the Lord. How sacrilegious and intellectually dishonest to violate the sanctity of the inspired Word of God! How can anyone take seriously ANYTHING that this infidel says?

"For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen"
The doxology of the prayer is not contained in Luke's version, nor is it present in the earliest manuscripts of Matthew, representative of the Alexandrian text. It is thus absent in the oldest and best manuscripts of Matthew,] and most scholars do not consider it part of the original text of Matthew. Modern translations generally omit it.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord 's_Prayer#.22For_thine_is_the_ kingdom.2C_and_the_power.2C_an d_the_glory.2C_for_ever_and_ev er._Amen.22

This is the ONLY and official English translation of Matthew 6:9-15 as preserved by the church established by Jesus of Nazareth and entrusted by Him for the preservation of sacred scripture and doctrine for all time:
“This is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread;
and forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors;
and do not subject us to the final test,
but deliver us from the evil one.
If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you.
But if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your transgressions.
.
Nowhere do the MADE-UP WORDS [apocryphal] of the poster appear in the real Bible – the sacred scripture of Jesus of Nazareth.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101613 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Educated people do not use an apostrophe to denote the plural.
Boy you have really been wound up the past few days. Have you been reading the Gallup polls again?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#101614 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
==========
WHAT part of THIS do YOU DWIDIOTS and DIPCHITIOTS not UNDERSTAND??????????
Explanation:
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...
Being born in the US is not a Piracy or Felony committed on the high Seas or an offense against the Law of Nations.

Sorry, BirfoonLady. RU on LSD?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Non sequitur. The federal and state courts have used both native and natural born citizens to describe children born in the United States without regard to the nationality of parents. Obviously not influenced by Vattel.
"In McCreery v. Somerville,(1824) 9 Wheat. 354, which concerned the title to land in the State of Maryland, it was assumed that children born in that State of an alien who was still living, and who had not been naturalized, were "NATIVE-BORN citizens of the United States;" United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 661-662 (1898)(emphasis added).
“After an exhaustive examination of the law, the vice-chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen;” In re Look Tin Sing, 21 Fed. Rep. 905, 909 (Circuit Court, D. California. September 29, 1884.)
How can it be that the federal courts were "influenced" by Vattel when the courts have ruled to the contrary in regard to native/natural born citizens born after the adoption of the Constitution?
RU on LSD?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101615 Aug 21, 2012
Chicago Young Republicans "Call Me Maybe"
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“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101616 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Wall Street gains, S&P 500 hits four-year high [1426.63]
... that is a gain of 111% under this administration – during the same period under Reagan the market had barely gained 16% while unemployment was 13.3% higher than it is now and the creditworthiness of the United States had sunk to its lowest level since the Revolutionary War as the entire world recognized that Reagan was the most inept and uneducated American president in history.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-rt ...
More wealth has been created in the United States during the past 42-months than during any 42-month period in the entire history of the world including under the Babylonian Empire and the Pharaohs of Egypt. It is every patriotic conservative American’s obligation to encourage unemployment of the ignorant and uneducated who lacked the common sense to go to this great nation’s elite Eastern colleges and professional schools, so that low wages can keep corporate profits high and the people who deserve the very best to remain wealthy. As for the riff-raff that are not even worthy to work as grounds crew at our exclusive private country clubs (there are undocumented workers for that) who are unemployed, deep sympathy, but how stupid of you not to earn your wealth the old fashioned true American way: by inheritance. Ha Ha Ha Ha
==
The really stupid "birthers" in this country want a return to the intellectual void of the Reagan years.
====
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
what was the S&P 500 the Fall of 2007? Would you believe "1,565.15"? This is the LONGEST recovery since the Great Depression
POOR rube, he sucked off the taxpayer-funded welfare rolls for so long that he is totally ignorant about Article II of our sacred Constitution.
Your current president did not take office until Jan. 20, 2009 -- more than fifteen (15) months after Oct. 9, 2007.
While 43 was president the bottom fell out of The Market through the end of his term -- costing citizens of the United States 51.9% of their equity wealth in less than 14 months plus the enormous loss of wealth in real estate.
HERE'S HOW STUPID RUBE IS: the Class dares him to identify any American president who has had the equity markets rise SO MUCH (more than 110%) in the first 42 months of their presidency.(Under Ronnie the Market was in slow motion -- barely gaining 16% in 3-1/2 years.)
If rube cannot show that the Market rose more than 110% during the first forty-two months of a presidency, than it is CONFIRMED THAT HE IS A LIAR OF THE HIGHEST ORDER as well as a blood-sucker on the American people. HOW PATHETIC.
Please only use HARD MARKET DATA stating beginning and ending dates for your data. Thank you.
Note the really stupid one has such intense loathing and irrational hatred toward his landslide-elected president, that rube must vilify him by citing the economic statistics BEFORE Obama was even sworn in. HOW INCREDIBLY INTELLECTUAL DISHONEST -- but to be expected from someone who was too stupid and gutless to gain appointment to our great United States Military Academy at West Point.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#101617 Aug 21, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>So, know would you tell us, what country was Mr. Obama born in, Canada, Mexico, United States, etc? You know there are a lot of countries in the Americas.
The United States of America. Duh!

STATE OF HAWAII
Office of Health Status Monitoring
P.O. Box 3378
Honolulu, Hawaii 96801
VERIFICATION' OF BIRTH
Recipient of Verification: Ken Bennett, Arizona Secretary of State
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-14.3, I verify the following:

1. A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii

2. Name of Person: Barack Hussein Obama, II

3. Department of Health File #: 151 61 10641

4. Time of Birth: 7:24 p.m.

5. Name of Hospital: Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital

6. Age of Father: 25

7. Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa

8. Age of Mother: 18

9. Birthplace of Mother: Wichita, Kansas

10. Date of Signature of Parent: 8-7-61

11. Date of Signature of Attendant: 8-8-61

12. Date Accepted by Local Registrar: Aug-8 1961

Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files.

I certify that the information contained
in the vital record on file with the
Department of Health was used to
verify the facts of the vital event.

Alvin T. Onaka, Ph. D.
State Registrar
Date Issued: May 22, 2012
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101618 Aug 21, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Being born in the US is not a Piracy or Felony committed on the high Seas or an offense against the Law of Nations.
Sorry, BirfoonLady. RU on LSD?
<quoted text>
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas,<<<--<< and Offences against the Law of Nations;



Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.

==========

Do YOU not SEE a comma THERE
PLUS the word AND!

Just like in the DEATH of a president YOU were talking ABOUT.....you IDIOT!

AMENDMENT XX
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term,

or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify,
(obama FAILED)(EXCEPT by FRAUD)
then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101619 Aug 21, 2012
101,519
Terri Tanna wrote:
"As she quotes the man who totally hated and despised the Constitution -- the one he had NO ROLE WHATSOEVER in writing it and wasn't even in the United States when it was being written."
====
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, Thomas Jefferson had no roll [SIC]? He was the major figure in the Constitution of Virginia of 1776 of which our Constitution was based!
Can't comment on whether he ate donuts or not.
Correct. Jefferson was bitterly opposed to the United States Constitution that only loosely resembled the VA document.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101620 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"DARE YOU TO PROVE that you accomplished anything during the entire 20+ years that you sucked at the teat of the public welfare rolls for your compensation, your housing, your uniforms, your medical care. If you were a true patriot, you would have been a soldier without ANY compensation including subsequent pension benefits. What a disgusting human being you must be that you couldn't even make it in the private sector as true conservatives do."
====
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Typical nasty troll. You did not make one intellectually honest point.
NOT HONEST? REALLY?
Do you deny that ALL of the following were paid for you by the American taxpayers for 20 or more years:
1) your compensation,
2) your housing,
3) your uniforms, and
4) your medical care?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#101622 Aug 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Mel's son was a fairly inexperienced pilot and he had a partial instrument failure when the vacuum pump failed, Experienced pilots are proficient at "partial panel" flight and probably would have been able to handle this emergency.
Never get into a plane who's pilot's ego is greater than his skill.
Oh, my plane is a partial glass cockpit in that it does have a six-pack of steam gauges of which two are vacuum powered and the I have an Aspen multi-function electronic display which also has a built-in battery back-up.
I know I am an older pilot and I am not as sharp as I once was so I made sure my plane has back-up instruments. And it also has an ... autopilot!
I was also a hot helicopter pilot in my day and I know I will never be a bush-pilot and have no desire to be one. But my plane is happy on a grass airstrip and I am confident in that area.
Mel Carnahan 2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Carnahan
The twin-engine Cessna airplane piloted by the Governor's son, Randy, crashed on a heavily forested hillside during a rainstorm and foggy conditions near Goldman, Missouri"
So what? Does this prove your claim that Romney has more small contributors?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101624 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Jesus responded: "It is written again,'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'" (Matthew 4:7) It may seem pious to say that one is trusting in God for protection, and we all must, but it is tempting God if we do not take the measures that He has laid out for us in the Bible.
What an incredibly ignorant and uneducated reading of Sacred Scripture! Tell the Class the truth: you have ZERO college credits in anything related to Christian scripture.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101625 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
"He who passively
accepts evil
is as much
involved in it
as he who helps
to perpetuate it."
~ Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Another really stupid poster who doesn't know that Dr. King's use of "passively" is in the context of NON-violent protest.
But let's give amerlassie credit: no one is better at distorting quotes taken out of context better than her.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#101626 Aug 21, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Non sequitur. The federal and state courts have used both native and natural born citizens to describe children born in the United States without regard to the nationality of parents. Obviously not influenced by Vattel.
"In McCreery v. Somerville,(1824) 9 Wheat. 354, which concerned the title to land in the State of Maryland, it was assumed that children born in that State of an alien who was still living, and who had not been naturalized, were "NATIVE-BORN citizens of the United States;" United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 661-662 (1898)(emphasis added).
“After an exhaustive examination of the law, the vice-chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen;” In re Look Tin Sing, 21 Fed. Rep. 905, 909 (Circuit Court, D. California. September 29, 1884.)
How can it be that the federal courts were "influenced" by Vattel when the courts have ruled to the contrary in regard to native/natural born citizens born after the adoption of the Constitution?
RU on LSD?
<quoted text>
What do you mean it doesn't follow, please indicate where you can find Native in the Constitution.
As for assumptions in your 1824 case, assumptions does not make law.
You tell me how the courts were influenced by Vattel, I did not say they were. Constitutional Law plainly states who shall be Natural Born Citizen, only those born in the US not subject to any foreign powers.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#101627 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas,<<<--<< and Offences against the Law of Nations;
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
==========
Do YOU not SEE a comma THERE
PLUS the word AND!
Just like in the DEATH of a president YOU were talking ABOUT.....you IDIOT!
AMENDMENT XX
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term,
or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify,
(obama FAILED)(EXCEPT by FRAUD)
then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...
Huh? RU on LSD? Being born in the US is an offense against the Law of Nations? RU daft?

BTW, BirfoonLady, according to the Electoral College and the United States Congress, the President qualified, and his election was certified, birfoon moaning, whining, and sour grapes, notwithstanding.

Grow up!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Being born in the US is not a Piracy or Felony committed on the high Seas or an offense against the Law of Nations.
Sorry, BirfoonLady. RU on LSD?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101628 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"PERHAPS, but not as used by the United States federal courts when the term is followed by the words -born citizen."
====
Dale wrote:
PERHAPS, but the US Constitution only uses Natural Born Citizen, no where will you find Native, therein.
Now Vattel uses the words Native, or Natural, to describe the children born in a country of citizen parents.
Are you saying that the US Federal Courts have been influenced by the "Law of Nations"?
ABSOLUTELY NOT. Only idiots (that includes uneducated people beyond the "birthers") don't know that the courts have used many, many terms interchangeably during the course of our grand 800-year tradition of Anglo-American jurisprudence.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#101629 Aug 21, 2012
Obama might as well tell anything that people would believe without offering evidential data , apparent facts and proof.

OBAMA THINKS THAT WILL BE AN EASY CAKE THEN.

THAT WILL BE ALL LIKE A PIECE OF CAKE LIKE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AS THAT WILL DEPEND ON YOU PEOPLE'S PROVING IT.
BUT THIS BIN LADEN CASE WOULD ALL BE AMOUNTING TO THAT OBAMA HAS TO DEMONSTRATE IT ALL AND PROVE IT WITH CLEAR PROOF.

The reason that there was not any major terror happening in USA was due to more protective measures taken after 9-11 before Obama's time.

HOWEVER, the extending more troops beyond causing more soldiers' lives, has been the work of Obama, and by his doing, why would not be more AL QAEDA AND ISLAMS UPRISING BEFORE HE SAID BIN LADEN WAS KILLED (with showing not any proof), due to the discontentment of them related to US role in Afghanistan?

Does Obama mean the AL QAEDA AND MUSLIMS WOULD NOT BE UPRISING around the world ABOUT AFGHANISTAN, BY OBAMA'S SENDING MORE SOLDIERS?

What is any difference by showing pictures of dead bin Laden to the extended involvement in Afghanistan by Obama as Obama feared uprising --(therefore there is not any different and the uprising is unproven by showing pictures since there are Afghanistan, Libya Iran,and elsewhere because all these ARE SAME RELATED concerns relating to AL QAEDA and Muslims?)

Obama might as well tell anything that people would believe without offering evidential data , apparent facts and proof.

OBAMA THINKS THAT WILL BE AN EASY CAKE THEN.

THAT WILL BE ALL LIKE APIECE OF CAKE LIKE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AS THAT WILL DEPEND ON YOUR PEOPLE'S PROVING IT.
BUT THIS BIN LADEN CASE WOULD ALL BE AMOUNTING TO THAT OBAMA HAS TO DEMONSTRATE IT ALL AND PROVE IT WITH CLEAR PROOF.

The fact that Obama shows no pictures of his claiming of dead bin Laden (demonstrates lack of competence as not being confident but cover up any true facts) makes easier for him to get away with lots of things by seeing that the people need not question what he says is true or not, including "what was all about as community organizer doing what in south-side Chicago?", "college lecturer in what--really in economics and law as what courses, with assertion prentations?", "lived and travelled to Indonesia or Kenya before with parents?", "how many companies were doing outsourcing with his help?", "how much sums of money were to do all bailouts besides the one for GM?", "just exactly how much amounts of money were printed?", "how much he had paid all to China besides buying light bulbs?", and many more of these alike items as he said, supported by not providing data , disclosed facts, proof, audit, examination, and so on.

What Obama's doing is simply trying to hide and keep the people in the dark in a democracy, so that US people are deprived of information, data , proof and evidences from this administration from whatever they say, showing lacking the dignified integrity to cover up its incompetence or doing things wrong , contrary to what it should be.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101630 Aug 21, 2012
Dale wrote:
So, know would you tell us, what country was Mr. Obama born in, Canada, Mexico, United States, etc? You know there are a lot of countries in the Americas.
The UNITED STATES Supreme Court has already answered your question.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101631 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"The most important of which is the one in which the United States Supreme Court SPECIFICALLY considered the natural-born citizen status of Barack HUSSEIN Obama in its action in Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen. RES JUDICATA."
====
Dale wrote:
There can't be "RES JUDICATA", cert. was denied due to standing, case was not tried.
Your comment hasn't a legal leg to stand-on, just conjecture on your part, and very irrelevant.
Do you even know the meaning of res judicata? The issue of Obama's eligibility has been forever closed with LEGAL FINALITY by the United States Supreme Court. Do you know the Court's internal rules on this type of matter? Don't tell the Class your real name, but at least state for whom you clerked.
==
DARE YOU to find any opinion issued by the Court that lack of "standing" was the basis. If you can't do that, you prove yourself to be a legal midget.
==
Try to deny you are a legal midget when you state the Supreme Court did not even "try the case." You expose your complete ignorance of jurisprudence by not knowing the Court is not a trial court except in the most narrow of circumstances outlined in Article III.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#101632 Aug 21, 2012
IT SAYS MANY THINGS OF OBAMA--FOR THE REASONS OF UNJUSTIFIED,IMPERTINENT AND IMPROPER.
AND THERE SHOWS THAT OBAMA IS NOT REALLY SAYING AND DOING THINGS THAT ARE REAL REFLECTIONS OF THE REAL REALITY.

Obama might as well tell anything that people would believe without offering evidential data , apparent facts and proof.

OBAMA THINKS THAT WILL BE AN EASY CAKE THEN.

THAT WILL BE ALL LIKE A PIECE OF CAKE LIKE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AS THAT WILL DEPEND ON YOU PEOPLE'S PROVING IT.
BUT THIS BIN LADEN CASE WOULD ALL BE AMOUNTING TO THAT OBAMA HAS TO DEMONSTRATE IT ALL AND PROVE IT WITH CLEAR PROOF.

The reason that there was not any major terror happening in USA was due to more protective measures taken after 9-11 before Obama's time.

HOWEVER, the extending more troops beyond causing more soldiers' lives, has been the work of Obama, and by his doing, why would not be more AL QAEDA AND ISLAMS UPRISING BEFORE HE SAID BIN LADEN WAS KILLED (with showing not any proof), due to the discontentment of them related to US role in Afghanistan?

Does Obama mean the AL QAEDA AND MUSLIMS WOULD NOT BE UPRISING around the world ABOUT AFGHANISTAN, BY OBAMA'S SENDING MORE SOLDIERS?

What is any difference by showing pictures of dead bin Laden to the extended involvement in Afghanistan by Obama as Obama feared uprising --(therefore there is not any different and the uprising is unproven by showing pictures since there are Afghanistan, Libya, Iran,and elsewhere because all these ARE SAME RELATED concerns relating to AL QAEDA and Muslims?)

Obama might as well tell anything that people would believe without offering evidential data , apparent facts and proof.

The fact that Obama shows no pictures of his claiming of dead bin Laden (demonstrates lack of competence as not being confident but as a cover-up of any true facts) makes easier for him to get away with lots of things by seeing that the people need not question what he says is true or not, including "what was all about as community organizer doing what in south-side Chicago?", "college lecturer in what--really in economics and law as what courses, with assertion presentations?", "lived and travelled to Indonesia or Kenya before with parents?", "how many companies were doing outsourcing with his help?", "how much sums of money were to do all bailouts besides the one for GM?", "just exactly how much amounts of money were printed?", "how much he had paid all to China besides buying light bulbs?", and many more of these alike items as he said, supported by not providing data , disclosed facts, proof, audit, examination, and so on.

What Obama's doing is simply trying to hide and keep the people in the dark in a democracy, so that US people are deprived of information, data , proof and evidences from this administration from whatever they say, showing lacking the dignified integrity to cover up its incompetence or doing things wrong , contrary to what it should be.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#101634 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:

AMENDMENT XX
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term,
or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify,
(obama FAILED)(EXCEPT by FRAUD)
then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;
I'm still trying to find the clauses in the Constitution which provide for BirfoonLady to determine whether a President elect has qualified.

Last time I checked, the process does not include BirfoonLady, except for her vote.

BTW, BirfoonLady, you lost.

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