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Independent Voter Joliet

Joliet, IL

#412 Jul 7, 2009
The Crooks In DC wrote:
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Some do report it as high as 23%. But, the sites are a little to far to right for me and their numbers do not add up. I think myself that it is near 20% just from what I see going on. But, once more you need to see the whole picture not just your area.
It is true you need to see the whole picture.. I got much more than just my area..The people I know live all over and are reporting the same thing.. from TN, MI, IN, CA, AZ, FL.. and Chicago which is almost like another state.. People are being laid off.. not able to find jobs even part-time in retail in some area's... It's so sad... and no matter what the WH is saying there are NO jobs coming down the pipe line without them using some common sense and I don't think any of them have the mental capability to do so..
Independent Voter Joliet

Joliet, IL

#413 Jul 7, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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Since you have attacked my education, let me help you out, Sultan of Squat:
"was that their is no substance to your dribble." I hope I don't really have to point out the errors in this, whatever it is.
"We need to close the department of education down to prevent from producing subversives punks like you." Can you point out the six mistakes in this mow-ronic rant?
Also you misspelled 'straight'. If I were you I wouldn't worry so much about getting your tax dollars back, I would be trying to get my tuition money back.
By the way, the public schools I attended, while I was attending public schools, were in Mt. Prospect and Arlington Heights.
You and your stink would not be allowed on the campus of my upper school, college or graduate school.
Trust me, you can't even afford to look at the tuition papers.
It is said You can take the boy to school but you can't make them learn and your proving their point very well, however, I am sure you heard the old expression EMPTY WAGONS MAKE THE LOUDEST NOISES..

Since: Apr 09

Chicago, IL

#414 Jul 7, 2009
Independent Voter Joliet wrote:
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It is true you need to see the whole picture.. I got much more than just my area..The people I know live all over and are reporting the same thing.. from TN, MI, IN, CA, AZ, FL.. and Chicago which is almost like another state.. People are being laid off.. not able to find jobs even part-time in retail in some area's... It's so sad... and no matter what the WH is saying there are NO jobs coming down the pipe line without them using some common sense and I don't think any of them have the mental capability to do so..
Agree. It is happening in Ohio as well. It is everywhere. So much for the hope and change we got s/c/r//e/w/e/d with.

“Wingnuts Suck”

Since: Mar 09

Chicago, IL

#415 Jul 7, 2009
Independent Voter Joliet wrote:
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Ha ha.. better than getting bounced from reform school like you...time out your wife is calling ..
The only way you, or anyone you know, could get into the schools I attended would be to wash the floors, or drive a student home after school.

My wife is at a party by the way. I am home with the kids. And your enlightened soul.

“Wingnuts Suck”

Since: Mar 09

Chicago, IL

#416 Jul 7, 2009
Schmed wrote:
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Funny! If you are so intelligent...do you really live in the gold coast or is that where your business is? Research is fun..isn't it?
My business? No, I am quite sure that even with some profound research you will not find out where my business is located, nor where we operate, nor what we do.

It is not your business to know.

Since: Apr 09

Chicago, IL

#417 Jul 7, 2009
Independent Voter Joliet wrote:
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It is said You can take the boy to school but you can't make them learn and your proving their point very well, however, I am sure you heard the old expression EMPTY WAGONS MAKE THE LOUDEST NOISES..
Funny. I find it interesting that with all this "so called" intelligence he has...he might learn that using that screen name is easily traceable.

Since: Apr 09

Chicago, IL

#418 Jul 7, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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The only way you, or anyone you know, could get into the schools I attended would be to wash the floors, or drive a student home after school.
My wife is at a party by the way. I am home with the kids. And your enlightened soul.


If I were you...you might want to stop while you are ahead. If you are that intelligent...I will give you a hint. Tech support?

“Wingnuts Suck”

Since: Mar 09

Chicago, IL

#419 Jul 7, 2009
Independent Voter Joliet wrote:
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It is said You can take the boy to school but you can't make them learn and your proving their point very well, however, I am sure you heard the old expression EMPTY WAGONS MAKE THE LOUDEST NOISES..
I love all of your grammatical errors while you are criticizing my writing. Didn't need to be made to learn, it comes naturally. By the way, writing, or rather reading someone else's writing, does not normally make noise, unless of course you must do it aloud.

Also you and your upper case shouting are one to talk about unnecessary noise.

Good Odin!

Since: Apr 09

Chicago, IL

#420 Jul 7, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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My business? No, I am quite sure that even with some profound research you will not find out where my business is located, nor where we operate, nor what we do.
It is not your business to know.
Public knowledge when you put it online. How is that intelligence working for you?

“Wingnuts Suck”

Since: Mar 09

Chicago, IL

#421 Jul 7, 2009
Independent Voter Joliet wrote:
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It is true you need to see the whole picture.. I got much more than just my area..The people I know live all over and are reporting the same thing.. from TN, MI, IN, CA, AZ, FL.. and Chicago which is almost like another state.. People are being laid off.. not able to find jobs even part-time in retail in some area's... It's so sad... and no matter what the WH is saying there are NO jobs coming down the pipe line without them using some common sense and I don't think any of them have the mental capability to do so..
And you are going with the understanding that all of this is the President's fault? He is so powerful that he was able to completely decimate the job market?

Finally, I am sorry about anyone you know who is having a hard time. These posts are nothing but posts, but real lives are being put through the wringer and that is unfortunate.

However, a conservative response would be that those who made good life decisions would not be in a bad place now. Don't blame others for your own failures.

But that's how conservatives think, don't attack me.

“Wingnuts Suck”

Since: Mar 09

Chicago, IL

#422 Jul 7, 2009
Schmed wrote:
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If I were you...you might want to stop while you are ahead. If you are that intelligent...I will give you a hint. Tech support?
You can think whatever you like, but trust me you are nowhere close.

I am also not going to play cat and mouse with you about this. You have no need to know what we do because there is no way that you could ever make use of our services.
Independent Voter Joliet

Joliet, IL

#423 Jul 7, 2009
The Crooks In DC wrote:
Obama’s Health Plan Sparks Unease Among Nation’s Middle Class
July 6 (Bloomberg)-- Darryl and Shelly Syverson may be the real-life incarnation of “Harry and Louise.” And that could pose a danger for President Barack Obama’s plans to overhaul the U.S. health-care system.
The Syversons of Strawberry Point, Iowa, and their neighbors are voicing many of the concerns stoked by Harry and Louise, a fictional middle-class couple whose appearance in television advertisements attacking President Bill Clinton’s health-care program in 1994 helped sink the plan.
“The middle class always get stuck paying for everything,” Shelly, 59, said after a town-hall meeting last week in Elkader, Iowa, a mostly rural town of 1,465 residents about 60 miles northwest of Dubuque that houses a Caterpillar Inc. plant.
As Congress returns this week to craft the legislation, Obama’s push to revamp an industry that makes up 17 percent of the nation’s economy will need support from American families earning between $50,000 and $100,000 a year, a group that pollsters define as middle class and which makes up about a quarter of the electorate. That backing is shaky, polls show.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news...
I can see their point which I have been telling everyone that there is NO way they can do this health care without taxing the middle class and what the PROGRESSIVES forget is there are working middle class DEMOCRATS.. and they are not happy with the prospect of being taxed..
Independent Voter Joliet

Joliet, IL

#424 Jul 7, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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You never have anything of any quality that would allow me to put effort into it.
I don't put any effort into seriously arguing with the guy who wears his socks on his hands and is covered in urine either.
Monticus your like your mentor.. hope he pays you well to TRY to spread his propaganda but again you have nothing of relevance to contribute to any intelligent conservation.
Independent Voter Joliet

Joliet, IL

#425 Jul 7, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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The only way you, or anyone you know, could get into the schools I attended would be to wash the floors, or drive a student home after school.
My wife is at a party by the way. I am home with the kids. And your enlightened soul.
and apparently I have a decent memory.. which is more than I can say for you.. You are really arrogant...to ASSUME (and you know what it means when you assume).. the schools I went to would make yours look like pre-school.. however, I have no time to get in a pissing contest with the likes of you.. Now go watch the kids...

“Wingnuts Suck”

Since: Mar 09

Chicago, IL

#426 Jul 7, 2009
Independent Voter Joliet wrote:
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and apparently I have a decent memory.. which is more than I can say for you.. You are really arrogant...to ASSUME (and you know what it means when you assume).. the schools I went to would make yours look like pre-school.. however, I have no time to get in a **** contest with the likes of you.. Now go watch the kids...
If you went to a private school, and still write the way you do on your rants, then for everyone involved, print out your posts and use them as evidence for getting your tuition returned.

Then change my oil, will you?
HAHAHA

Chicago, IL

#427 Jul 7, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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If you went to a private school, and still write the way you do on your rants, then for everyone involved, print out your posts and use them as evidence for getting your tuition returned.
Then change my oil, will you?
Forest View HIgh School is not private school. Keep trying.
Independent Voter Joliet

Joliet, IL

#428 Jul 7, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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If you went to a private school, and still write the way you do on your rants, then for everyone involved, print out your posts and use them as evidence for getting your tuition returned.
Then change my oil, will you?
Get over yourself.. no one believes a word you say and just like making fun of you...

“Wingnuts Suck”

Since: Mar 09

Chicago, IL

#429 Jul 7, 2009
Independent Voter Joliet wrote:
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Get over yourself.. no one believes a word you say and just like making fun of you...
That may be true, but it still does not change that fact that when you are done changing my oil I would like the rest of my fluids checked.

My life does not revolve around how you envision me, it revolves around how the real world does.

Now, really, my oil?
Not a good liar

Chicago, IL

#430 Jul 7, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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That may be true, but it still does not change that fact that when you are done changing my oil I would like the rest of my fluids checked.
My life does not revolve around how you envision me, it revolves around how the real world does.
Now, really, my oil?
Big talker. How much more info would you like people to know that is available free online? I did not have to dive into any databases. It amazes me what people think they can get away with. You come on here and insult others for their views. You have no idea who you are encountering or what they do for a living. My suggestion to you is to calm down and act civilized. Your arrogance is childish.
Independent Voter Joliet

Joliet, IL

#431 Jul 8, 2009
I Monticus wrote:
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That may be true, but it still does not change that fact that when you are done changing my oil I would like the rest of my fluids checked.
My life does not revolve around how you envision me, it revolves around how the real world does.
Now, really, my oil?
And the real world envisions you a left windnut.. now grease yourself with your oil and float on out of here..

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