In spring 2008, anti-feminism is in f...

In spring 2008, anti-feminism is in full bloom

There are 427 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from May 11, 2008, titled In spring 2008, anti-feminism is in full bloom. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

W ashington University is giving Phyllis Schlafly an honorary doctorate. Let me run that by you again.

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Feminist

United States

#341 Jun 9, 2008
Dante wrote:
Lol, rape is not a owmen problem? Painfully you say i have been going on? Now you know how I feel-I am DELIGHTED to battle you. Your assertion that i am illogical again is backed with more argument. "but then you expect the father to be around to protect" Absolutely-he's there in the morning before work to help see the kids off to school, and he's there in the evening to make sure they aren't running hog wild or getting gangbanged by punks.
What's illogical about that? LOL. Please. I'm probably older than you AND I REMEMBER HOW IT WORKED. Quiet safe streets full of mothers in the houses, fathers coming home from work, children playing SAFELY. It was real. I was there. Not our household of course, we were the black sheep of the street since our mother skipped out, but other households with intact families. I never saw any women who were oppressed-they had cars, nice homes, time with their children, affluence, and if anything their husbands adored then and deffered to them A LOT.
Yeah well I grew up in the late fifties and sixties and I don't remember one woman who had a car, all the women I knew took a bus, groceries were delivered and the women were bored and miserable, and that include my stay at home mom. your memories are some sort of fairy tale. The households back then could not afford two cars, and many of the women did not have a drivers license, the homes were thrown up after WW2 and called GI homes not designed well and small. The men went out a good deal and enjoyed themselves while the women stayed yet again at home with the kids. Men took hunting and fishing trips also the women they stayed home with the kids and NEVER went on trips of their own. Yeah, I was there. Also attended catholic shool, wouldn't go there if I were you!
Jackie

New York, NY

#342 Jun 9, 2008
Dante wrote:
If all I saw women was is a sexual object rather than a companion, friend, confidant, partner etc i would have sufficed my life with $20 crack hoes and not a series of monogamous relationships with prefessional and college educated women so again your assertion has no underpinnings, no context, is ANOTHER baseless ad hominem attack.
My ideal woman would have an Education, a good one, perhaps even a career. A good one. She owuld not, however, expect that she could shitcan our marriage every time things became difficult, nor would she let's some doctor stick a vacum cleaner up her vagina and such out our offspring.
YOU may see such behaviors as "liberated". Millions of other reasonable educated women see them as dispicable.
Using terms like crack hos, c***, and using vile names to describe a woman's sexual organs shows that you respect a certain type of woman. And any woman who falls out of what you deem acceptable, be it a feminist, etc, than you have only contempt.

Thats like a white guy saying- hey I like black people just not the ones that (inset racial stereotype).
Feminist

United States

#343 Jun 9, 2008
HappyMarriedToNonFeminist wrote:
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Actually this is false, not even a woman controls her reproduction. She has been predetermined outside her will to be fertile once a month until she is near 50.
Futhermore, she needs a man to complete this.
Anybody that invests in a company has a say. Anybody that donates physically to the birth of a child has a say.
Until you can reproduce without man, you are doing nothing more than sound weird about your you-tarus worship....in fact it sounds like some kind of cult worship going on there.
You really need to update your knowledge, they have BC now that even eliminates the menstrual cycle! Huzzah!
Jackie

New York, NY

#344 Jun 9, 2008
Dante wrote:
being the black sheep of the street I was in fact more observant than I probably would have been otherwise. I watched the mothers intently-remember, I had none. I watched how they interacted with their husbands, with their children. It was a stark contract to ur (invisible) and later the stepmother (screaming, namecalling, violent, redfaced, really very sad-and she continued to the bahavior with the children she and my father produced as well).
None of the intact families were like that. I would have either seen it or heard about it from my friends-we were thick as theives. No, their fathers were afforded a place of respect, as their mothers. They loved each other, confered with each other, and the children RESPECTED THEIR PARENTS WITH AWE.
Well, my father grew up during, what you would refer to, as the Leave it to Beaver time. His mother had seven children and was beaten, raped and verbally abused by my grandfather until the day she died. My father, a retire Teamster, was the one that introduced me to feminism so I would not relive what his poor mother did. He taught me self-respect, agency and told me I could do anything I want.

So all I have to say to you Dante, is go f*ck yourself. God knows noone else will.
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#345 Jun 9, 2008
Woman Convicted of Raping Her Foster Son
Presented Without Comment (PWC):

Woman Sentenced in Rape Case

Forty-four-year-old Deborah Knauber could have been sentence to a maximum of seven years behind bars after a jury found her guilty of second degree rape, criminal sexual conduct in the second degree, and sexual abuse. Instead, the judge sentenced Knauber to 1-to-3 years and she plans to appeal that. Knauber insisted in court at her sentencing on Monday that she did not rape her 13-year-old foster son...
Feminist

United States

#346 Jun 9, 2008
Dante wrote:
None of the intact families were like that. I would have either seen it or heard about it from my friends-we were thick as theives. No, their fathers were afforded a place of respect, as their mothers. They loved each other, confered with each other, and the children RESPECTED THEIR PARENTS WITH AWE.
Really? You would have never have known what was going on because the generation you are refering to kept secrets and plenty of them, nobodys business and what would the neighbors say was the status quo. Alcoholism was a plenty, you think all these guys came back form WW2 without problems? Wife beating was normal but the wives covered it up, many wanted divorce but most were catholic and told to stay in the family and "understand the mans frustrations". My brother was sexually abused by a priest, the rumors were a plenty but nobody said anything, the priest was quietly moved to ANOTHER PARISH!! But nobody said a word, not even my brother, him and the other abused knew and the few they confided in. Yeah wonderful generation full of secrets! I watched learned and decided I would never be in that nightmare.
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#347 Jun 9, 2008
Jackie wrote:
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Well, my father grew up during, what you would refer to, as the Leave it to Beaver time. His mother had seven children and was beaten, raped and verbally abused by my grandfather until the day she died. My father, a retire Teamster, was the one that introduced me to feminism so I would not relive what his poor mother did. He taught me self-respect, agency and told me I could do anything I want.
So all I have to say to you Dante, is go f*ck yourself. God knows noone else will.
LOL. How would you know? I won't jump on your bandwagon and talk about your dad's "messed up ubringing" like you did mine. My Stepmothers viscous verbal abuse of my father is legendary. But she was borderline retarded I think, like a lot of skanks looking for a paycheck. Sweetie, when I was a young buck I got more ass than a toilet seat thank you very much. I'm pushing 50. Disenchanted with your whole gender I'd rather not bother; you have nothing to offer. Nothing.

A man such as you describe as your grandfather should have got his ass beat and then thrown in jail-but as usual, such concessions I make to the reality that some men are garbage will never be met from either you or femiwhore that some women are garbage too-such a concession could have saved us pages of traded insults and pointless banter. But it would poke a big whole into your helpless victim mantra. As would recognition of the enourmous power of female sexuality and reproductive ability in preindustrial society, but that will never be forthcoming. or acknowledgement of the millions of men who loved, struggled and sacrificed-often their very lives-for the wives and children. No, absurdly in your worldview there never were happy families or women who like their men to be strong and lead. No, every women was a crushed flower under the heel of a terrible tyrant. You people are the sick ones, not us. You're gender sick.

Even the psychologists with PHD's are begining to recognize the left as a mental illness that refuses to acknowledge facts when presented. Were there bad fathers and bad husbands? Of course. But not in the general pervasive sense you say. As for pussy, there are so many of you skank out there selling it today I'm sure it's cheaper than dating, which after my last date ($280 thankless dollars spewed away on another "I'm the center of the universe" shank) I would gladly consider but for my afore mentioned SWEET college honey.

I'm not in a mad rush to bump uglies casually like your endless weeping women at the abortion clinic. I can wait for Miss Right, and tell Miss Right Now where the door is. Over there. Swings both ways.

Bye.
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#348 Jun 9, 2008
Woman Leaves Son to Die and Rot in Feces
Presented Without Comment (PWC):

Mentally disabled son's mom charged for role in his death
By James Monteleone The Daily Times (Farmington, NM)

Article Launched: 12/15/2007 12:00:00 AM MST

AZTEC — A Bloomfield woman faces criminal charges related to the September death of her mentally disabled son, who was found dead after rotting in his own feces apparently for an extended period of time....

Jared Greenwood, 26, was found dead, lying on the bathroom floor of his Bloomfield home covered in feces, dirt and garbage Sept. 30.
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#349 Jun 9, 2008
Woman Tortures Lover's Baby to Death
Presented Without Comment (PWC):

Jealous stepmother slowly tortured lover's baby to death
Last updated at 16:12pm on 4th August 2007
Daily Mail, UK

An evil stepmother was behind bars today for slowly torturing her lover's little boy to death.

Sumairia Parveen, who had begun an affair with her cousin after walking out on her husband, "hated" the 17-month-old she feared threatened their relationship.

The boy's father, Abid Ikram, 30, "stood by and did nothing", while doctors repeatedly failed to spot the abuse, a court heard.

Parveen showered love on her own daughter, but subjected helpless Tahla Ikram to weeks of agonising abuse in the twisted hope he would be taken into care.

The child suffered a litany of fractures and bruises as his limbs were "twisted and pulled", he was burnt with a cigarette and even had his leg progressively sliced open until the wound was so deep tendons and veins were exposed.
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#350 Jun 9, 2008
Woman in Battered Women's Shelter Batters Her Child
Presented Without Comment (PWC):

Mother sentenced to prison on child abuse charge
By AISLING SWIFT
Bonita Daily News

Friday, November 23, 2007

.... In the months prior to July, Irizarry and her child had lived at three shelters, the first in Fort Myers, where employees reported to DCF that the child had a bruise on her face and a cut on her eye. The child told DCF investigators that she’d walked into a clothes dryer.
Irizarry was asked to leave that shelter and then went to the Shelter for Abused Women and Children in Collier County.

Shelter workers also told Peterson that staff and residents witnessed Irizarry being emotionally and verbally abusive, prompting them to ask her to leave. At the shelter, employees heard her constantly berate the child.

The sound of the little girl being beaten was heard coming from Irizarry’s room and afterward, she was seen with a mark on her face. When asked about it, the child said she got it on the playground.
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#351 Jun 9, 2008
Mom convicted of torture

By Jameson Cook
Macomb Daily Staff Writer

A woman who shoved her twin daughters' heads into a urine-filled toilet and beat them was found guilty Wednesday of torture and child abuse.A Macomb County Circuit Court jury deliberated seven hours over two days before deciding that Tamika S. Williams, 30, of Warren, was guilty of two counts of torture and child abuse, following a trial over four days. Williams abused the 8-year-old girls over 18 months ending last November after she adopted them. The girls testified that Williams also burned them with cigarettes, tied them to a bed, tied them by the neck to a door and hit them with a shoe, hanger, cable TV cord, an exercise device and other items. Photos of some scars were shown to the jury.
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#352 Jun 9, 2008
Woman Embezzles $7 Million , Buys Luxury Goodies
Presented Without Comment (PWC):

Sumter woman sentenced in $7 million embezzlement case

Updated: Nov 16, 2007 04:21 PM
WIStv, Columbia, S.C.

... Timmons skimmed money from the company's accounts for herself, buying real estate, jewelry, expensive automobiles, and other luxury items, according to authorities. Officials say she was able to hide the thefts from other company officials by altering or omitting financial records and making false statements on the company's banking documents....
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#353 Jun 9, 2008
Woman Convicted of Arson and Attempted Murder
Presented Without Comment (PWC):

Woman convicted of arson, attempted murder
Jury: Ex-school board member drugged boyfriend, started fire Friday, September 22, 2006

By Dennis B. Roddy, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Her face wrenched in anguish, Beverly Jo Coon, handcuffed by the same deputies who once answered to her father-in-law, was led to jail yesterday after a once-divided jury convicted her of arson and attempted murder. Ms. Coon, 47, the daughter-in-law of the late Sheriff Eugene L. Coon and a former member of the Baldwin-Whitehall school board, was convicted of drugging her boyfriend, former Bethel Park school Superintendent Ronald Grimm, 61, and setting his apartment on fire one year ago.
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#354 Jun 9, 2008
Woman Convicted in Adoption Scam
Presented Without Comment (PWC):

WOMAN CONVICTED IN ADOPTION SCAM SENTENCED TO PRISON

From FBI Files:

(CORPUS CHRISTI) A young woman from Alice, Texas, convicted of wire fraud and mail fraud arising from a scheme to obtain money and property from persons seeking to adopt a child has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay thousands in restitution, United States Attorney Don DeGabrielle announced today. Belinda Ramirez, 25, of the 1200 block of Stonegate Street in Alice, TX, was sentenced this afternoon by United States District Judge Janis Graham Jack to a total of 24 months in federal prison, without parole, for falsely promising to give her non-existent baby up for adoption to a number of families in exchange for money and other items of value. The court has ordered that the federal prison sentence shall run consecutive to any sentence imposed by the state of Texas which is seeking to revoke a probationary sentence imposed for a prior conviction.
Also at today’s hearing, the court determined that Ramirez had scammed a total of ten or more victims between August 2005 and May 2006. Judge Jack ordered Ramirez to pay restitution in the amount of $19,627 to the persons she victimized as a result of her scheme...
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#355 Jun 9, 2008
Woman Murders Boyfriend With Antifreeze
Presented Without Comment (PWC):

Former 911 operator faces death penalty in boyfriend’s killing
AP - updated 9:49 p.m. PT, Sat., March. 24, 2007

DALTON, Ga.- A former 911 operator was convicted Saturday of murdering her boyfriend by poisoning him with antifreeze. Lynn Turner could face a death sentence in the 2001 killing of Randy Thompson, a Forsyth County firefighter and the father of her two children. The same jury that convicted Turner will return to court at 9 a.m. Monday to decide whether to impose that sentence.She is already serving a life sentence for the 1995 death of her husband, Glenn Turner, a Cobb County police officer....
Jackie

New York, NY

#356 Jun 9, 2008
Dante wrote:
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A man such as you describe as your grandfather should have got his ass beat and then thrown in jail
Correct me if I'm wrong, which I know I'm not, I believe it was the feminist in the 70s that got the battering laws on the books. They fought and built shelters for these women. What did the patriarchy do? Allowed it to happen and fought to prevent any laws to stop it......
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#357 Jun 9, 2008
Jackie wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct me if I'm wrong, which I know I'm not, I believe it was the feminist in the 70s that got the battering laws on the books. They fought and built shelters for these women. What did the patriarchy do? Allowed it to happen and fought to prevent any laws to stop it......
You want to talk about shelters? Okay.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/fam27.htm

There are no shelter for battered husbands even though actual domestic violence statistics are quite clear-there is near gender parity in violent behavior and a clear MAJORITY of female violence against children. Also, the leader in starting up the family shelter movement (I designed one with an architect associate of mine by the way) Erin Prizzy was demonized by radical feminists for observing these facts.

Here is her website:

http://www.sossandra.org/author/erin

"So finally, as you can see below, the Cabinet Office has put out a statement after 37 years of lies and denials to tell us what most of us have always known … domestic violence is not a gender issue."
Feminist

United States

#358 Jun 9, 2008
Dante wrote:
But of course, I've never heard a feminist acknowledge the enourmous, compelling, and all consuming power a womans sexuality can hold over a man. In that context the patriarchy is A LOT MORE balanced of a relationship. He might have authority, but she's got the keys to paradise every evening.
Wow you are condoning shallowness beyond belief! You are condoning dangling sex like a carrot. You are making and marriage into a proposition and women the prostitutes! But hey thats OK as long as it flies under the title "patriarchy" right Dant?
Dante

Hollywood, FL

#359 Jun 9, 2008
Jackie wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct me if I'm wrong, which I know I'm not, I believe it was the feminist in the 70s that got the battering laws on the books. They fought and built shelters for these women. What did the patriarchy do? Allowed it to happen and fought to prevent any laws to stop it......
"...What did the patriarchy do? Allowed it to happen and fought to prevent any laws to stop it......"

Yeah,that's what happened. The whole male world conspired to allowing domestic abuse. Why don't you turn on the "proportion" button in your brain, snap out of your gender obsession for a moment, and look what else was going on in the world at the time your grandmother was getting abused. Oh look, 6 million men women and children gassed by the Nazis. 10,000 young men shot to death storming the beaches of Normandy. 25 million Russians die fighting the Nazi's-sometimes with sticks. You think anyone was keeping tabs on your grandmothers marital problems (or anyone elses for that matter)? There are and always have been laws against wife beating. But again, as clearly pointed out by THE FOUNDER OF THE WOMEN'S SHELTER MOVEMENT ERIN PRIZZY FROM 30 YEARS OF OBSERVATION, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS NOT A GENDER ISSUE.
wow

Skokie, IL

#361 Jun 9, 2008
Dante is unstable and bitter.

Sad.

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