Franklin Park Police Shoot, Kill Man After Chase

Jan 12, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Cbs2chicago.com

Share + Jan 12, 2010 7:20 am US/Central NORTHLAKE, Ill. An elderly driver is dead after a slow-speed police chase through the western suburbs.

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Sublame 1

AOL

#1 Jan 12, 2010
idiot cops ,...shoot an unarmed senile old man ,..during a car chase,.. that reached speeds ,.. as high as 24 miles per hour !,.....grand pa is dead ,.... officer barmy fife is alive and well, and living in stone park ,....
Franklin Park

Chicago, IL

#3 Jan 12, 2010
Before you start ranting and raving you should get your facts staright!
Oviously you have no respect for polie officers or their jobs!
Sublame 1

AOL

#4 Jan 12, 2010
MOST COPS ARE GOOD PEOPLE -- but it sounds like they have some real losers down EAST OF O'HARE
Franklin Park

Chicago, IL

#5 Jan 12, 2010
It sounds like youíre the only loser. Let me guess youíre unemployed?
DO NOT judge our police officers! They are brave and hard workers!
Sublame 1

AOL

#6 Jan 12, 2010
yea ,those cops were real smart ,....- killing some unarmed old dufus ,.......they are so lucky they didn't do more damage ,...I wonder where all these stray bullets went? houses,... schools ? homes ,..innocent bystanders ? not all cops are good guys ,.........the biggest a hole i knew in in high school,.. went on ,..and is now a cop,.. look at drew Peterson ,.........I suppose you are willing to defend him too,.........cops are only people ,....some good ,...some bad ---don't glorify all of them ,...some are real aholes
Reptar

North Chicago, IL

#7 Jan 12, 2010
"The release said when officers surrounded the vehicle to try and remove the suspect, he tried to strike officers with the vehicle and officers fired several rounds, striking him."

Gotta disagree sublame1. I would have shot him too, actually the idiot was committing "assisted" suicide.

Sucks that a cop has to live with shooting this person, but he was endangering lives both cops and civilian.

If a cop draws his weapon and you try and ram him with your car, expect to pay the price.
Sublame 1

AOL

#8 Jan 12, 2010
some one said the car was stopped --pinned in ,...not drivable ,... and the cops knew who he was ,...they dealt with him before , and didn't like him ,.... { i don't know if he was black or white ,...it should not matter ,...-- maybe some of the cops are black or white ,...} any way ,...the dolt ,.......gets out of his car,.... and some one thought he was armed , probably a cell phone ........it was their call,... at that point ,... but they are lucky they didn't shot each other in the head ,...
RAA

Villa Park, IL

#10 Jan 12, 2010
Quite often the media distorts facts in their stories in order to create more interest or sway peoples' opinions in a certain direction. The offender (who was shot by police) was actually 52 years old, not elderly at all (at least in my opinion) as reported in the news stories. Also, after police tried to pull him over, the offender drove his car toward the police when they tried to stop him. They acted as they were trained to do so, in self defense, because their lives were in danger. It is fine to read news stories and to be aware of what is going on in the world around us, but please be careful about placing harsh (and often false) judgements based on what we read in a newspaper or on the internet. Unless we were there and know 100% of the story, we only know a small piece of what happened. Therefore, we cannot rationalize assuming we know why people did what they did. Also, we shouldn't generalize. Sure, there are some corrupt police officers out there, but that surely does not mean they are all bad. In fact, I personally know several officers, and they sacrifice a lot of time with their family and put their own lives in danger every day to serve and protect others. There are a few "bad apples" in every profession, and we that everyone is bad just because some are spotlighted in the media.
Sublame 1, it is unfortunate that you know someone who maybe shouldn't be an officer, but out of the two bad examples of police officers you named, there are thousands of great men and women who are very dedicated people, full of integrity, that risk their lives every day to protect others.
Franklin Park Senior

Oak Park, IL

#11 Jan 12, 2010
Let's not forget the officer also shot a fellow gun happy officer. What were they thinking or do they????
friend

Chicago, IL

#12 Jan 12, 2010
This is ridiclous that all you low lifes seem to know what happened. That's just a disgrace of the human race that you can judge a story that you all know nothing about. Do you know the family, friends or even anyone motely related or accquianted with this man? No, in fact I am so how about you all keep your mouths shut on the situation. Because nothing of anything you people have said is remotely true. Everyone knows the saying "don't judge a book by its cover" so take in what that actually means and stop judgingg. Its hard enough on the friends and family of this man its the last thing they need to see is this website of what you people have said and take in that greif. So watch what you people say & think, what if that was you?
Really

Elmwood Park, IL

#13 Jan 12, 2010
RAA wrote:
Quite often the media distorts facts in their stories in order to create more interest or sway peoples' opinions in a certain direction. The offender (who was shot by police) was actually 52 years old, not elderly at all (at least in my opinion) as reported in the news stories. Also, after police tried to pull him over, the offender drove his car toward the police when they tried to stop him. They acted as they were trained to do so, in self defense, because their lives were in danger. It is fine to read news stories and to be aware of what is going on in the world around us, but please be careful about placing harsh (and often false) judgements based on what we read in a newspaper or on the internet. Unless we were there and know 100% of the story, we only know a small piece of what happened. Therefore, we cannot rationalize assuming we know why people did what they did. Also, we shouldn't generalize. Sure, there are some corrupt police officers out there, but that surely does not mean they are all bad. In fact, I personally know several officers, and they sacrifice a lot of time with their family and put their own lives in danger every day to serve and protect others. There are a few "bad apples" in every profession, and we that everyone is bad just because some are spotlighted in the media.
Sublame 1, it is unfortunate that you know someone who maybe shouldn't be an officer, but out of the two bad examples of police officers you named, there are thousands of great men and women who are very dedicated people, full of integrity, that risk their lives every day to protect others.
You tell us that the media quite often distorts facts and go on to tell us that it was reported the man that was elderly. You report that he was 52 years old. Where do you get your facts?

The important part of the story is not how old he was but rather why was he shot.

I heard the news report on WGN 720 radio. Mayor Pedersen made a statement and then a statement was made by a person that witnessed the killing first hand.

You say that the police were trained and acted in self defense. Again where do you come up with those facts.

My Opinion is that the police were not coordinated in what should have been a simple apprehension of a DUI suspect.

Who was in charge at the scene? Or did the scene dissolve into a mob mentality?

Should have been;
A radio call comes to car FP46 from command center. "This is the Chief. Continue pursuit at normal traffic speed with lights on. Other communities are following also. When you get the suspect pulled down you will be in charge of the arrest and any coordination of other towns. Go to local frequency to communicate orders to other town. We'll be waiting your message of man in custody at headquarters, is that a 10-4?"

"Yes Ser, 10-4"

The officer now in command pulls down the car as other community police officers enter and block the suspects car from moving freely. The car is trapped and can not go anywhere.

The FP officer mikes the radio. phssss..."All officers on the scene will remain near their cars. Keep your weapons holstered. Only two officers that you see at the far end of the scene are ready with their weapons. Officer Mike from Stone and myself will approach the car along wih myself for the apprehension. Officer Mike will open the door and we will restrain the subject and extract him from the vehicle. If the door is locked Officer Mike will break out the window and open the door. Ok Officers we are ready to commence the operation." Phsssst.

Several minutes later command center in FP receives radio communications. "FP command center this is officer in charge at the scene. Suspect is in custody. We're coming home. Have Stone call for tow and clean up." Pshssssst.

The chief responds,"Very good, we'll be waiting for you."
Reptar

North Chicago, IL

#14 Jan 12, 2010
Franklin Park Senior wrote:
Let's not forget the officer also shot a fellow gun happy officer. What were they thinking or do they????
Friendly fire happens. A 9mm round could easily go through the perp and hit an unintended target.

Reread the article, this guy was asking for it.

What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
sad issue

Itasca, IL

#15 Jan 12, 2010
this falls on the mayor an cheif in not enought
police training layoff an hire more none skilled
kids our town is a disaster the mayor has no
business being mayor in a matter of time we will
have our town destroyed pray for the officer for
a fast recovery

Alan

Elmwood Park, IL

#16 Jan 12, 2010
the cops in this town do a very good job at keeping the gangs in check,at the board meeting Monday night the mayor and board of trustees spoke of layoffs for the cops and firemen as well as the people that have been already been let go from the village office, the mayor wants to save money but at what or who's risk?? maybe the cop's were a little to quick to judge this man and they will have to live with killing an unarmed man not easy just like there job..........
RAA

Villa Park, IL

#17 Jan 12, 2010
To Really, I have a close friend who was involved in this incident, so I do know how old the man was. The man's age is irrelevant to the case, but my point is that the media often exaggerates things or often doesn't give us ALL of the facts about an incident that happened, especially when it comes to WHY police officers handled a given situation the way they did or what the perpetrator's actions were leading up to it. As I said before, I have several very close friends who are officers , and I know first-hand that this type of media distortion does happen (not in every case, but it does happen). We should consider that there are other important factors in these types of cases that the media doesn't know about or doesn't share with the public, and we shouldn't be unfairly judgemental (toward either side - the police or the perpetrator), especially when we don't know 100% of the facts.
Subprime 1

AOL

#18 Jan 12, 2010
I just herd on the radio that some Melrose park cops tasered a 83 year old woman ,.... what is wrong with the cops in that neck of the woods ----?
Cop

Villa Park, IL

#19 Jan 12, 2010
Sublame you are the idiot here. Of course there you are critizesing about something you heard about. You can sit there and think about what you would have done for minutes. They had seconds to make a decision and act. Of course you don't point out how he tried ramming the officers car of the road, or the fact that he attempted to run an officer over. Or that he was a man (not that old) that was released from prison early by Gov. Quinn early to save money. So next time you or your loved ones need help maybe they will stop and think about what they should do before they act. You heard the car was pinned? From who? The media? They did a great job and what they were trained to do, but you go ahead and keep on thinking what you want even though you have no idea what you are talking about.
Citizen

Evergreen Park, IL

#20 Jan 12, 2010
Really wrote:
<quoted text>
You tell us that the media quite often distorts facts and go on to tell us that it was reported the man that was elderly. You report that he was 52 years old. Where do you get your facts?
The important part of the story is not how old he was but rather why was he shot.
I heard the news report on WGN 720 radio. Mayor Pedersen made a statement and then a statement was made by a person that witnessed the killing first hand.
You say that the police were trained and acted in self defense. Again where do you come up with those facts.
My Opinion is that the police were not coordinated in what should have been a simple apprehension of a DUI suspect.
Who was in charge at the scene? Or did the scene dissolve into a mob mentality?
Should have been;
A radio call comes to car FP46 from command center. "This is the Chief. Continue pursuit at normal traffic speed with lights on. Other communities are following also. When you get the suspect pulled down you will be in charge of the arrest and any coordination of other towns. Go to local frequency to communicate orders to other town. We'll be waiting your message of man in custody at headquarters, is that a 10-4?"
"Yes Ser, 10-4"
The officer now in command pulls down the car as other community police officers enter and block the suspects car from moving freely. The car is trapped and can not go anywhere.
The FP officer mikes the radio. phssss..."All officers on the scene will remain near their cars. Keep your weapons holstered. Only two officers that you see at the far end of the scene are ready with their weapons. Officer Mike from Stone and myself will approach the car along wih myself for the apprehension. Officer Mike will open the door and we will restrain the subject and extract him from the vehicle. If the door is locked Officer Mike will break out the window and open the door. Ok Officers we are ready to commence the operation." Phsssst.
Several minutes later command center in FP receives radio communications. "FP command center this is officer in charge at the scene. Suspect is in custody. We're coming home. Have Stone call for tow and clean up." Pshssssst.
The chief responds,"Very good, we'll be waiting for you."
You are so clueless, I had to tell you in person. A light bulb would not have been enough. Where do you get that baloney from??? You obviously have not clue about real life situations!
Citizen

Evergreen Park, IL

#21 Jan 12, 2010
Sublame you are not sub you are totally lame! LOL!
William Ogden

Lititz, PA

#22 Jan 12, 2010
sad issue wrote:
this falls on the mayor an cheif in not enought
police training layoff an hire more none skilled
kids our town is a disaster the mayor has no
business being mayor in a matter of time we will
have our town destroyed pray for the officer for
a fast recovery
You are an idiot, this has nothing to do with the mayor. Who has more qualifications

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