“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#21 Mar 11, 2014
RACE wrote:
3 Addiction is a disease that started as a choice, and that is also the way it ends.
You sure nailed that one

My theory is that there is a habituative personality. If you have that predilection, something will grab you. Whether it something to which you will be physically addicted like drugs or nicotine or habituated like internet or shoe shopping, it doesn't make much difference.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#22 Mar 11, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>and do you have an explanation as to what makes the same act acceptable at one meal but not another? Or is it "just because"?
Allow me to paste from my original note: "maybe there is no food, just coffee, so that changes it."

“I Am Mine”

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#23 Mar 11, 2014
cheluzal wrote:
<quoted text>
Allow me to paste from my original note: "maybe there is no food, just coffee, so that changes it."
So you're saying its ok to read if you are only drinking, but not if you are eating. Why?

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#24 Mar 11, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>So you're saying its ok to read if you are only drinking, but not if you are eating. Why?
But then, how many people in a bar with beers are reading the newspaper or whatever?
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#25 Mar 11, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>So you're saying its ok to read if you are only drinking, but not if you are eating. Why?
Dooood, chill out.
I offered a possible suggestion that MIGHT explain lw's reasoning.
This is not my manifesto. Geez.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#26 Mar 11, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
So you're saying its ok to read if you are only drinking, but not if you are eating. Why?
I think PE brought up a good point. People don't normally like to engage in conversation while they're waiting for their morning coffee to kick in. And what is there to talk about in the morning anyway?

"Sorry for drooling on your side of the pillow last night."

At dinner, you have the days events to talk about.
tiredofit

Los Angeles, CA

#27 Mar 11, 2014
Tonka

You're not rude if you put down what you are reading to talk about something.

The school districts are terrible here. On every ballot we are asked to have another tax for the schools from improved learning to repairs. I now resent this because my kids are grown and, when they attended public school, they sat in leaky classrooms, nonworking drinking fountains, teachers who should have retired long ago. I could go on and on. The ipads had no tracking system on who got what. Lots went simply missing. My friend told me that her daughter's high school does not stock the bathrooms with toilet paper.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#28 Mar 11, 2014
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>I think PE brought up a good point. People don't normally like to engage in conversation while they're waiting for their morning coffee to kick in. And what is there to talk about in the morning anyway?

"Sorry for drooling on your side of the pillow last night."

At dinner, you have the days events to talk about.

Good point. I missed what PEllen said so you get credit.
;)

I like my alone time with my coffee in the morning, but I'd much rather eat dinner with D than by myself. However, if we make or go out to breakfast together, it wouldn't occur to either of us to read.

“I Am Mine”

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#29 Mar 11, 2014
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
But then, how many people in a bar with beers are reading the newspaper or whatever?
Who said anything bout being in a bar?

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#30 Mar 11, 2014
cheluzal wrote:
<quoted text>
Dooood, chill out.
I offered a possible suggestion that MIGHT explain lw's reasoning.
This is not my manifesto. Geez.
Chill out? What gives you the impression that I'm not? I'm simply searching for an explanation.

LW had no problem with him readin in the morning, but calls him rude for doing the same thing in the evening? Why?

You agreed with her. I ask you why?

You said maybe there was no food in the morning and just coffee. Ok. So reading and drinking: good. Reading and eating: bad. I ask you why?

No one called it your manifesto, but you agreed with her position(your words). I'm simply asking why? What do you see as different?

She thinks reading her email will be like holding a mirror to his rude behavior. I say it will just be consistent with the behavior she has no problem with in the morning.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#31 Mar 11, 2014
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
I think PE brought up a good point. People don't normally like to engage in conversation while they're waiting for their morning coffee to kick in. And what is there to talk about in the morning anyway?
"Sorry for drooling on your side of the pillow last night."
At dinner, you have the days events to talk about.
What day's events?

How your day went a work? The last thing I want to hear about is the daily minutiae of your work day. And I have no interest in giving a run down of mine.

News of the day? Well hell, what better way to find out what's going on in the world than reading about it?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#32 Mar 11, 2014
Sorry tonks, but you cant say you find something to talk about, and find nothing to converse about in the same sentence..
The mundane and the minutia walk hand in hand,
People speak about their lives, whether at breakfast or dinner, and you cant say witch is more proper.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#33 Mar 11, 2014
RACE wrote:
Sorry tonks, but you cant say you find something to talk about, and find nothing to converse about in the same sentence..
When did I say that? edogg is the one that claims there is nothing to talk about in the morning, but in the evening you must be chock full of stories. I refuted that. The only difference between the morning and the evening is that you've gone thru a work day. Maybe you're chock full of stories to tell at the end of each workday, but my job is pretty mundane and boring, especially to a non-IT person. The biggest difference from day to day is where I had lunch. Real fascinating dinner conversation. Take that away and what's different between the morning and the evening? Nothing.

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RACE wrote:
People speak about their lives, whether at breakfast or dinner, and you cant say witch is more proper.
Find me a post where I tried to say what's improper to talk about? I am simply searching for a reason some people claim reading is ok at one meal but not another.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#34 Mar 11, 2014
tiredofit wrote:
Tonka
You're not rude if you put down what you are reading to talk about something.
The school districts are terrible here. On every ballot we are asked to have another tax for the schools from improved learning to repairs. I now resent this because my kids are grown and, when they attended public school, they sat in leaky classrooms, nonworking drinking fountains, teachers who should have retired long ago. I could go on and on. The ipads had no tracking system on who got what. Lots went simply missing. My friend told me that her daughter's high school does not stock the bathrooms with toilet paper.
Here is the Facebook page of the group trying to bring attention to the mess.

Repairs-Not-IPads

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Repairs-Not-IP...

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#35 Mar 12, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
I am simply searching for a reason some people claim reading is ok at one meal but not another.
Many people have put forth many theories. Again, you're wanting a black and white answer to a fifty shades of gray question.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#36 Mar 12, 2014
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Many people have put forth many theories. Again, you're wanting a black and white answer to a fifty shades of gray question.
what shade of gray? If you think something is rude, there should be a pretty black and white explanation as to why you think that as opposed to, "your being rude, but I can't explain why."

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#37 Mar 12, 2014
Because Norman Rockwell painted pictures of happy white families sitting down to a good wholesome dinner and nobody was clutching a book or newspaper.

Thats why!

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#38 Mar 12, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Who said anything bout being in a bar?
Me. Want to get this etiquette thing right is all.:D

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#39 Mar 12, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>
When did I say that? edogg is the one that claims there is nothing to talk about in the morning, but in the evening you must be chock full of stories. I refuted that. The only difference between the morning and the evening is that you've gone thru a work day. Maybe you're chock full of stories to tell at the end of each workday, but my job is pretty mundane and boring, especially to a non-IT person. The biggest difference from day to day is where I had lunch. Real fascinating dinner conversation. Take that away and what's different between the morning and the evening? Nothing.
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<quoted text>
Find me a post where I tried to say what's improper to talk about? I am simply searching for a reason some people claim reading is ok at one meal but not another.
Personally, I think it isn't rude to read at a casual dinner with a very close friend or family member as long as you don't ignore them -- answer questions and participant in any conversation. I think you can read and participate.

I believe dinner has been historically the time when people get together and converse. If you're reading, you're not paying attention to the other diners.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#40 Mar 12, 2014
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
Personally, I think it isn't rude to read at a casual dinner with a very close friend or family member as long as you don't ignore them -- answer questions and participant in any conversation. I think you can read and participate.
I believe dinner has been historically the time when people get together and converse. If you're reading, you're not paying attention to the other diners.
i'm down with this answer.

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