Blunt Advice

Suffern, NY

#21 Nov 8, 2013
I am allergic to people who feel they must dictate cell phone and hand held games etiquette. Unless you serve them very well done.

Since: Jan 10

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#22 Nov 8, 2013
Nick's kids aren't good at sitting still and being quiet, not even for 10 mnutes.

This is why I think all kids should have to be taken to church for a few years. Teaches you to sit still and shut up.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#23 Nov 8, 2013
RACE wrote:
So, you and only you get to determine how much distraction is too much distraction?
I get to decide when I think someone has a legitimate complaint and when someone is a big whiner. You get to decide the same for yourself. Its one thing to be considerate of others. Its another to indulge every little grievance no matter how petty. What if you have to get up to go pee and have to cross on front of me? Of that distracts me, the you need to sit your ass down till the show's over, right?

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#24 Nov 8, 2013
RACE wrote:
So, you and only you get to determine how much distraction is too much distraction? If your kid is playing video games and I am in the seat right behind hsupposed to tough it out even though the kid is shaking the thing and weaving it from side to side? The screen flashes, explosions, all of which I see in my peripheral vision, but I have to put blinders on?
Seems to me that your asking me to do a lot of things just so your child does not have to learn how to sit quietly.
If your not going to throw a blanket over the kid, then take him outside or get a sitter. Dont tell me *I* have to deal with it.
<quoted text>
oh, and my opinion on this is not reserved for kids. I just went to a concert last month. Dude in front of me was on his cell phone the whole time. Obviously there cause his wife wanted to go. Didn't bother me one bit. Hewas not making noise. He was not blocking me. My opinion, if his little phone is so distracting that you can't focus on the show, then either the show sucks or you're really not that interested in the show to begin with

Since: Jan 10

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#25 Nov 8, 2013
I don't think a kid on an iphone is any more (or less) distracting than a kid with a coloring book. It's all the same to me.

Kids get dragged to siblings' crap all the time. I guess I don't care if they pay attention or not.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#26 Nov 8, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Nick's kids aren't good at sitting still and being quiet, not even for 10 mnutes.
This is why I think all kids should have to be taken to church for a few years. Teaches you to sit still and shut up.
Ha! My kids don't even have to sit still in church (and being quiet also seems optional). Their church has a kids area near the front with toys and coloring and there's also a glider chair there that, if it's not in use by a parent with a baby, is often occupied by one of my children.

I was never permitted such freedom! You sat and doodled on the program and if you got too fidgety, you got the evil eye from Mrs. Blackburn. You did *not* want the evil eye from Mrs. Blackburn...

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#27 Nov 8, 2013
Kids need to learn how to tolerate things that aren't always pleasant and delightful at the moment. That's life and life isn't always fun and it isn't always what is exciting to them. Kids today are being taught instant gratification and a sense of only doing things if they are fun and if it's entertaining or beneficial to THEM. It will only succeed in breeding rudeness and a self-cenetered, self-indulgent adult.

Sometimes we have to endure things we don't want to endure in order to lift someone else up and help them to feel good. It is disrespectful to the performers and there is no reason you can't teach a child at a very young age how to sit through their sister's 30 minute school play without fidgeting or having a video game to distract them. It is a process. They learn it little by little when they are young and then, when they are older, they can sit through a play or a musical performance without playing games and e-mailing friends on their phone.

And I knew Tonka would see absolutely nothing wrong with it.:-)

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#28 Nov 8, 2013
If the kid has a portable ps3 and is weaving and bobbing like Stevie Wonder, its a distraction, just not a noisy one.
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>oh, and my opinion on this is not reserved for kids. I just went to a concert last month. Dude in front of me was on his cell phone the whole time. Obviously there cause his wife wanted to go. Didn't bother me one bit. Hewas not making noise. He was not blocking me. My opinion, if his little phone is so distracting that you can't focus on the show, then either the show sucks or you're really not that interested in the show to begin with
Kuuipo

Monterey, CA

#29 Nov 8, 2013
Common sense questions today, eh?

LW1: If I were hosting a dinner, I would not want any of my guests to experience "asthma symptoms, swelling of the mouth and throat area, difficulty breathing, vomiting, diarrhea, cramping, a drop in blood pressure and loss of consciousness" in my home from eating something that or another guest prepared. Or worse. It's not hard to be honest about what's in the dish. And if someone is highly allergic, they should prepare their own food.

LW2: I'm not a parent, but I know that children have short attention spans. I would have NO problem with a child who is happily amused with an electronic game, provided that the device is silent during the performance, and not overly bright.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#30 Nov 8, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>I get to decide when I think someone has a legitimate complaint and when someone is a big whiner. You get to decide the same for yourself. Its one thing to be considerate of others. Its another to indulge every little grievance no matter how petty. What if you have to get up to go pee and have to cross on front of me? Of that distracts me, the you need to sit your ass down till the show's over, right?
Somebody passing you for a split second versus a bright light in a dark room with a kid moving all around for 2 hours are apples and oranges.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#31 Nov 8, 2013
RACE wrote:
If the kid has a portable ps3 and is weaving and bobbing like Stevie Wonder, its a distraction, just not a noisy one.
<quoted text>
wtf are you babbling about. Weaving and bobbing? If that were the case, it would defeat the purpose of distracting them di they sit still.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#32 Nov 8, 2013
Stina2 wrote:
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Somebody passing you for a split second versus a bright light in a dark room with a kid moving all around for 2 hours are apples and oranges.
what kind of video games are you and race talking about? Moving around for 2 hours? The video game keeps them from moving around. I'm not talking about setting up Wii in the auditorium.

“Not a real reg”

Since: Jan 13

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#33 Nov 8, 2013
RACE wrote:
If the kid has a portable ps3 and is weaving and bobbing like Stevie Wonder, its a distraction, just not a noisy one.
<quoted text>
Yeah....and I can take this to a whole new level. These are the kids who will later be walking down the street with their face in a phone and walk right into buses, trains, people, buildings, etc. Learn to pay attention you little rugrats!!!

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#34 Nov 8, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>what kind of video games are you and race talking about? Moving around for 2 hours? The video game keeps them from moving around. I'm not talking about setting up Wii in the auditorium.
There are lot of DS games and games on the phone where the kids twist and turn the screen, shake it vigorously and blow into the screen and such to preform actions within the game. I know my daughter had at least one like that, iof not more. I think her Scooby Doo one was like that.

Oh, and even when she was very little she could sit through a performance or church without a video game because she learned how. And she's an active kid.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#35 Nov 8, 2013
Stina2 wrote:
<quoted text>
There are lot of DS games and games on the phone where the kids twist and turn the screen, shake it vigorously and blow into the screen and such to preform actions within the game. I know my daughter had at least one like that, iof not more. I think her Scooby Doo one was like that.
Oh, and even when she was very little she could sit through a performance or church without a video game because she learned how. And she's an active kid.
We have no game like that. And as I said before, if we did, that would defeat the purpose of letting him play the game to keep him entertained and quiet, so its a poor example. Either way, that's off topic. The complaint was about having those screens on. So getting back to those screens, while you are griping about the kid nearby playing a game with this bothersome screen that's held low in his lap, you surely must be livid by the other parents in the crowd who have their phone screens turned on, not discreetly in their lap, but up in the air filming THEIR child's performance, right? You telling me when you're kid is performing, you don't record a video? Any school child performance I've ever attended is nothing but a room full of relatives recording

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#36 Nov 8, 2013
No wonder people think we're a nation of idiots.

You could move to the back and use the zoom feature....

But...

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#37 Nov 8, 2013
Stina2 wrote:
Kids need to learn how to tolerate things that aren't always pleasant and delightful at the moment. That's life and life isn't always fun and it isn't always what is exciting to them.
My view is that if you can take an unpleasant situation and make it a little more pleasant, why suffer needlessly? I see no value in being forced to sit quietly bored when you could be quietly entertained.
Stina2 wrote:
Sometimes we have to endure things we don't want to endure in order to lift someone else up and help them to feel good. It is disrespectful to the performers
??? The performers are not paying attention to you. As long as you are not making noise or otherwise disrupting their performance, they have no idea what you are doing. You could sleep thru the performance for all they know.
Stina2 wrote:
and there is no reason you can't teach a child at a very young age how to sit through their sister's 30 minute school play without fidgeting or having a video game to distract them.
I've not done a play. LW mentioned a school concert and a dance recital. I've done the concert. And they brought the kids up in groups. I'll be blunt. I am there to see MY kid. I don't care about seeing the other kids. I'm not gonna disrupt the other kids performances. But I'm not filming them. I'm barely paying attention. I'll clap at the appropriate time and if I'm not paying attention, I'll clap when the crowd claps, but the honest truth is, I'm just waiting till my kid gets in stage. My other kid will sit up to watch his brother. If there are other parents not paying attention when my kid is on stage, I don't care. I'm not monitoring what they are doing. I'm watching my kid. After that, I'm just waiting till the show is over. If I have no interest in watching the other kids, I completely understand if my kid is not interested in watching a bunch of kids he does not know.
Stina2 wrote:
It is a process. They learn it little by little when they are young and then, when they are older, they can sit through a play or a musical performance without playing games and e-mailing friends on their phone.
And I knew Tonka would see absolutely nothing wrong with it.:-)
Some years ago, I went to see Rent with my wife. I hated it. Was bored to sleep. Almost literally. I got up DURING the performance to go get a coke from the lobby to try to stay awake. This was before the days of smart phones. That ordeal would have been so much more bearable if I could sit and quietly browse the web. Given that option, I would see zero value in struggling to stay awake(and maybe even nodding off) if the web was at my fingertips

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#38 Nov 8, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
No wonder people think we're a nation of idiots.
You could move to the back and use the zoom feature....
But...
Phones only have digital zoom, which is worthless. Additionally, zooming from the back of the room is still gonna be real far way video. Worthless.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#39 Nov 8, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
The kids can sit on their hands and suffer through it like we had to.
The last 4 words in your reasoning are the dumbest reason one can have for a parental decision. I'm not picking on just you, it just made me think of some parents I know that had the same attitude.

"I don't let my kids watch any tv ever because I think it rots their brain."
I might disagree with your reasoning, but that's ok. I won't think any less of you.

"I don't let my kids watch any tv ever because I never got to watch tv."
Well now I think you're moron. That is the dumbest reason I can imagine. I want my kids to have things better than I did. That does not mean I'm going to spoil them and fulfill their every wish, but not getting them something because I didn't have it as a kid?

Before I had my kid, 2 dudes in the office became new parents at the same time and I heard them saying stuff like

"My kid will never have a tv in his room CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ONE."
"My kid will never have a phone in his room CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ONE. "

So if you grew up in a slum, with 5 brothers sharing a bed, are you gonna say your kid won't get his own bed CAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ONE?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#40 Nov 8, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>The last 4 words in your reasoning are the dumbest reason one can have for a parental decision. I'm not picking on just you, it just made me think of some parents I know that had the same attitude.
"I don't let my kids watch any tv ever because I think it rots their brain."
I might disagree with your reasoning, but that's ok. I won't think any less of you.
"I don't let my kids watch any tv ever because I never got to watch tv."
Well now I think you're moron. That is the dumbest reason I can imagine. I want my kids to have things better than I did. That does not mean I'm going to spoil them and fulfill their every wish, but not getting them something because I didn't have it as a kid?
Before I had my kid, 2 dudes in the office became new parents at the same time and I heard them saying stuff like
"My kid will never have a tv in his room CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ONE."
"My kid will never have a phone in his room CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ONE. "
So if you grew up in a slum, with 5 brothers sharing a bed, are you gonna say your kid won't get his own bed CAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ONE?
Watching TV... playing on an ipod

Sleeping in a bed with five people.... playing on an ipod

Once again you're comparing apples to oranges.

Then slamming the people who point out the difference.

If your kid can't behave and sit still for an hour, you've failed as a parent.

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