Thanks for countering blatant partisanship with real facts. There are four American families in mourning, who are still looking for answers to what happened to their loved ones in Benghazi last September 11.<quoted text>
Propaganda orders from mediamatters central office now, joe? Or are you just plagiarizing them?
10 Killed, 51 Injured? Right. All Pakis. No Americans killed or injured. And the White House didn't LIE ABOUT IT.
Right. 2 Uzbek security guards killed. No Americans killed or injured. And the White House didn't LIE ABOUT IT.
Right. Shooters never entered the consulate. Five civilians and the gunmen were killed, ten people were wounded. No Americans killed or injured. And the White House didn't LIE ABOUT IT.
Right. Three gunmen killed after they tossed grenades over the embassy's outer wall and a car bomb exploded outside the embassy. A Syrian security guard and a Chinese diplomat died.
No Americans killed or injured. And the White House didn't LIE ABOUT IT.
Right. An RPG fired into the front of the U.S. embassy around 6 am in the morning. No one was killed or hurt.
And the White House didn't LIE ABOUT IT.
And the British Embassy.
And the Croatian Embassy.
And the Bosnian Embassy.
And the Turkish Embassy.
No Americans killed or injured. And the White House didn't LIE ABOUT IT.
Right. 19 people died and at least 16 were injured when a group of men disguised at police attacked the outer security rim of the U.S. embassy.
No Americans killed or injured. And the White House didn't LIE ABOUT IT.
Yes, joe it is. And you have NO PERSPECTIVE - just your usual dose of partisan rubbish.
NONE of these previous episodes even approach the abject incompetence that left 4 AMERICANS DEAD in Benghazi because they were there with COMPLETELY INADEQUATE SECURITY.
NONE of these previous episodes even approach the craven corrupt LIES put out by the present administration to cover their sorry political asses.
That's why Benghazi matters, and why it stands out as such an unprecedented example of blatant and epic failure, and DISHONESTY to the American People.
Are you always this pathetically incompetent yourself as a propagandist? Di you think you could just post this kind of lying mediamatters bullshit and not get called on it?
#118502 Feb 17, 2013
#118503 Feb 18, 2013
Sorry all you right wing tin hats, but the truth will set you free, you know. Here are a few more specifics.
2001 - Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed.(See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)
2,9921 Americans killed
2002 - June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.
2003 - May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.
-8 Americans killed
2004 - May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including 1 American.
-1 American killed
June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.
-1 American killed
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.
June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.
-3 Americans killed
Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians.
Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans
-5 Americans killed
#118504 Feb 18, 2013
There were twelve terrorist attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities during George W. Bush’s tenure — the most of any president in history.
The embassy breach in Benghazi marked the second attack on U.S. diplomatic facilities during President Obama’s tenure, including one in April 2010 in Pakistan which was in retaliation for drone attacks there (if one counts the attacks in Libya, Egypt, and Yemen separately even though they occurred at roughly the same time and arose from the same incident, the total during his presidency is four). Even after Osama bin Laden’s death, America’s diplomatic facilities did not come under fire.
#118507 Feb 18, 2013
If so, joe - why did the Obama White House LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE for weeks about what actually happened at Benghazi?
Where was Obama from 5:30 pm when he was told of the attacks, and what did he do about it while 4 Americans were being murdered? Why are they still lying and stonewalling the Congress and the American People even today?
Because THAT'S the issue here, no matter how much bandwidth you and your mediamatters puppetmasters waste trying to deflect onto the tired old Bush OCD playbook.
#118508 Feb 18, 2013
Why did the Obama White House LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE for weeks about what actually happened at Benghazi, Joe?
Where was Obama from 5:30 pm when he was told of the attacks, and what did he do about it while 4 Americans were being murdered? Why are they still lying and stonewalling the Congress and the American People even today, joe?
#118509 Feb 18, 2013
Now, now, teddy. Wipe the spittle and settle down. You're twitching again.
You clowns on the right (fox news, etc) are so quick and eager to besmirch, aren't you? Every issue that comes up there you are creating conspiracies and ulterior motives.
You have concluded (in your own little brain) that everything is not what it seems. Conjecture and your personal belief do not a lie, nor a conspiracy make. You are at least (being generous here) as gullible and susceptible to the right wing propaganda machine as you claim I am to the left.
Fact: 2 embassy/consulate attacks during Obama administration. 4 Americans dead.
Fact: Over 12 attacks during Bush admin. More than 35 Americans killed.
And remember, Republicans cut funds for diplomatic security. Cost cutting actually can be imprudent if not stupid.
#118510 Feb 18, 2013
Your lame partisan smokescreens and deflections won't wash, joe.
Interesting how you take the death of 4 Americans due to incompetence and irresponsibility to casually. You and Hillary both - "what difference does it make," right?
Well, it does make a difference to their families, and to all right-thinking Americans, joe - it makes a big difference.
Fact: 4 Americans left unprotected against attack in Benghazi by the Obama administration.
Fact: They were there with inadequate security because the Obama admin put them there with no regard for their protection
Fact: "Funding cuts" are no excuse whatsoever - that's a lame-azz dodge. The Obama administration, and no one else, is responsible for allocating available State Dept funds to things like electric vehicle charging stations in Vienna instead of basic security services, and if they couldn't provide adequate security in Benghazi, it was irresponsible of them to hove put American foreign service people there unprotected in the first place.
Fact: After being told an attack was underway, Obama did NOTHING, and went AWOL and out of comms for several critical hours while brave Americans died waiting for rescue that never came from Obama and his mob of incompetents.
Fact: An American Ambassador and 3 other Americans are dead as a direct result.
Fact: The Obama administration knowingly LIED to Congress and the American People for weeks about what actually happened, and why, to cover up their own incompetence and failure, because they thought Obama's re-election campaign was more sacred than lives and telling the simple Truth.
Fact: The Obama admin CONTINUES to stonewall and knowingly lie to Congress and the American People.
Why are you defending bald-faced LYING, joe?
Where was obama for 6 hours while Americans died, and what did he do about it, joe?
#118511 Feb 18, 2013
I'm not nearly as gullible as you clowns on the right. I don't jump to conclusions, I don't foam at the mouth and rush to blame. I live in the REAL world where stuff happens and people die.
And don't start with that right wing, tea party crap putting words in peoples mouths. It's been done to death. There is no one in this country that doesn't feel for the families of ANY American killed in the line of duty, you jerk.
You simpletons are crying now, but not so much when thousands were dying in Iraq for YOUR real lies. Not the one that lives only in your head. Along with not much else, I'm beginning to see.
Oh, and by the way, what do you think could have been done about the Benghazi attack. How long would it have taken to get sufficient force prepped and deployed, Mr. military expert?
It's not surprising how easily lying comes to you of the right, though. Your whole philosophy is predicated on a lie. The lie of who you want people to believe you are and who you really are.
#118512 Feb 18, 2013
Once again you remain intentionally obtuse to the whole point, joe -
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN BENGHAZI IN THE FIRST PLACE.
There - clear enough for you?
It's called incompetence and irresponsibility.
Still waiting for your answers -
1) Why did the Obama White House lie about it?
2) Where was Obama for 6 hours that evening while Americans were dying, and what did he do about it?
3) Why is the Obama White house STILL stonewalling Congress and lying about it, even after His Incompetence-in-Chief has been safety returned to power?
Are you at all capable of an honest, straight answer instead of Axelrod/Jarrett/DNC/mediamatte rs proaganda? Just this once?
#118513 Feb 18, 2013
Not in the least interested in playing your low rent, foxworld word games.
1- Nobody is lying except you, unless you have some proof of something.
2- Obama was where he was and obviously where he was supposed to be. Why do you clowns always persist in your alternate universe theories that everything that happens could have been prevented or done better if executed by the left?
3- Again, what proof of lying do you have. Other than your idiotic, compulsive right wing brain disease.
Please, bring some straight independent answers. Something a bit more informed than your Doocy, Hannity, Rubin, Ailes talking point jive.
And as far as incompetence and irresponsibility are concerned, the current House majority and eight years of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld have already defined those terms.
Remember: 2 embassy/consulate attacks during Obama administration. 4 Americans dead. You're outraged.
Remember: Over 12 attacks during Bush admin. More than 35 Americans killed. Your outrage, where was it?
And why can't I find any right wing news items screaming headlines about lying and incompetence and irresponsibility for the deaths of 3,000 Americans on 9/11?
You guys are jokes.
#118517 Feb 18, 2013
Well, now joe - forgive me. I may have assumed you knew what you were talking about. That was unfair of me.
Which parts exactly of the Benghazi episode are you unfamiliar with, and disbelieve -
1) That Americans were posted to Benghazi with inadequate security to defend them against attack?
2) That the US had advance intel from credible sources warning of potential attacks on US personnel and facilities in Libya by Al Qaeda affiliates?
2) That the Obama Administration denied requests for increased security measures at Libyan missions?
3) That Washington, up to and including Obama, was advised of the attacks on the consulate in Benghazi almost immediately, between 3:30 and 5 pm?
4) That Obama, after being advised of the attacks, did nothing, ordered nothing, and went incommunicado at parts unknown for 6 hours while 4 Americans were murdered?
5) That US intel and defense knew immediately the attacks were not spontaneous randon mob actions, but planned and organized attacks utilizing heavy weapons and indirect fire?
6) That Susan Rice and other White House officials nevertheless went on the Sunday talk show circuit and put out a totally false story - that they knew to be false - blaming the attacks on a spontaneous mob action sparked by some video?
7) That the White house continued to promote and defend this wholly false narrative, lying to the American People and the Congress for weeks afterwards?
8) That the White House stonewalled proper Congressional investigative efforts, and continues to do so, by denying access to copies of relevant communications and documents that would make plain the Administration's actions and policy directives before, during, and after the attack?
Please specify exactly which of these points you're unclear about, and I would LOVE to help clear things up for you by posting cites to the relevant sources and Congressional testimony that establishes who has been LYING anbout what, and when.
And where exactly was that joe? Because nobody in his Administrations says thay know, and nobody in his Administration says they heard from him during those 6 crucial hours while Americans were being murdered, and the Obama administration did NOTHING.
Glad to hear YOU hold the key to that mystery, joe - Congress has been trying mightily to find this out for some time now, and they've gotten nowhere.
So - do tell, joe - where eactly was Obama for those 6 hours - and what exactly did he direct be done?
Do get hold of yourself, joe - we're talking about a specific incident, and the circumstances that led up to it, and the actions out Government took before, during, and after.
#118518 Feb 18, 2013
You seem quite deeply convinced of your Fox media machine intel, there, Teddy. I wouldn't get too excited though, if I were you. We keep seeing how your crazed right wing heroes create these alternate universe explanations that just don't seem to pan out when observed in the harsh light of REALITY.
Your nothing more than a dull version of Hannity. I'm totally bored with you ugly people. To you guys the Obama administration is behind everything wrong in your tiny mean-spirited little universe.
Most all rational people in this country, yea, in the world, don't live in the narrow confines of your far-right nut land. We all know the world is dangerous and stuff happens. Especially when that particular part of the world has been torched and set upon by Republicans in their lust for oil profits and their incompetent revenge for 9/11.
You guys are just seething over Obama's successes and re-election and I'm guessing this must be tying you and the rest of your un-American pals up in real knots:
" President Shimon Peres plans to give President Obama a special award at a state dinner next month when Mr. Obama is expected to visit Israel. Mr. Obama would be the first sitting American president to receive the award, Israel’s Presidential Medal of Distinction. Previous recipients include Henry A. Kissinger and the conductor Zubin Mehta.“Barack Obama is a true friend of the State of Israel, and has been since the beginning of his public life,” Mr. Peres said in a statement."
#118520 Feb 18, 2013
All the sideshow Republican antics on the Benghazi attacks along with the Hagel and Brennan confirmation hearings are merely a sad little attempt to steer the public's attention away from the Republican sequestration and the effects on the economy.
All those righty's screaming for cuts is about to tank our already fragile economy.
#118521 Feb 18, 2013
And, as a Liberal, I'm none too pleased with Obama's use/misuse of drones to carry out state sponsored murder.
#118522 Feb 18, 2013
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#118523 Feb 18, 2013
I can't stand the corruption of Republicans nor Democrats.
In Benghazi... Our corrupt government was running guns to Al Qaeda and other rebels that aren't exactly press-friendly.
When the people getting killed by those weapons revolted and stormed the Consulate... our corrupt "leaders" decided that it would be best to (stand down and) let them all die... than have the truth come out.
Then, predictably they made up a ridiculous excuse (an old movie that no one has seen) that the moron masses lapped up.
As usual, its not complicated if you're willing to face uncomfortable truths.
#118524 Feb 18, 2013
Yet you won't lose any sleep over it, much less condemn it in letters or emails to your elected representatives, the White House, or local newspapers.
#118525 Feb 18, 2013
Your an idiot. This is all just crap that you BELIEVE, not fact. Get back into the real world, take the little tin foil hat off and grow up.
#118526 Feb 18, 2013
Yet, in actuality, I posted it to this site and have sent my letters (e-mails) to many including the administration and Feinstein and Boxer.
So, your asinine post just proclaims how narrowly you right wing clods are wired. How's your independence, azz_ole.
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