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[joe]

Pittakos wrote:

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What laws do you want fixed? How would you fix them? What is it that you want to see?

I, personally, would propose making all guns illegal. But I'd accept semi-automatics (assault weapons), large ammo clips and hand guns being illegal. Until that day comes, and it will come, I want real background checks for ALL purchases and a paper trail of purchase documentation for all guns and a national database of purchases and ownership.

I also think we need to seriously address the lack of mental health diagnosis and care.

[Say the truth]

joe wrote:

Time to fix the gun laws!
No more delays. The NRA have had it their way long enough!

In what country were you educated, Joe?

[Say the Truth]

joe wrote:

I, personally, would propose making all guns illegal. But I'd accept semi-automatics and hand guns being illegal. Until that day comes, and it will come, I want real background checks for all purchases and a paper trail of purchase documentation for all guns and a national database of purchases and ownership.

And what exactly do you think that will do, mate? Law breakers will still have guns. People will be unable to protect themselves from lawbreakers. What do you mean by "real background checks"? You do realize there are already such measures in place. Right?

[Say the Truth]

joe wrote:

Last year Handguns Killed:
48 People in Japan
8 Great Britain
34 Switzerland
52 Canada
58 Israel
21 Sweden
and
10,728 in The United States

That's .003 PERCENT of the population. More people die from diarrhea, but that doesn't make for good cable news or hand-wringing Socialist policy- making.

[gonond]

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[Pittakos]

joe wrote:

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I, personally, would propose making all guns illegal. But I'd accept semi-automatics (assault weapons), large ammo clips and hand guns being illegal. Until that day comes, and it will come, I want real background checks for ALL purchases and a paper trail of purchase documentation for all guns and a national database of purchases and ownership.

Well, I doubt you will see handguns becoming illegal. You can background check and paper trail until the wolves howl at the moon but none of that would have stopped the tragedy that happened last week. When someone is he11-bent on killing others and then offing themselves, they couldn't care less if the police know who's gun it was. You see, criminals will always find a way. On the other hand, perhaps if the principal (at least) had been armed, the outcome may have been very different.

[Pittakos]

Say the Truth wrote:

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That's .003 PERCENT of the population. More people die from diarrhea, but that doesn't make for good cable news or hand-wringing Socialist policy- making.

Just a few more facts, StT,
89 Americans killed by automobiles every day.
40 of those 89 Americans were killed by automobiles where alcohol was involved.
205 Americans killed by alcohol abuse every day.
1214 Americans killed by tobacco use every day. 134 of those Americans were not smokers but were killed by second hand smoke.
2150 unborn Americans killed every day for convenience.

These figures far exceed the deaths caused by guns yet the libs don't want to talk about these.

[joe]

Pittakos wrote:

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Well, I doubt you will see handguns becoming illegal. You can background check and paper trail until the wolves howl at the moon but none of that would have stopped the tragedy that happened last week. When someone is he11-bent on killing others and then offing themselves, they couldn't care less if the police know who's gun it was. You see, criminals will always find a way. On the other hand, perhaps if the principal (at least) had been armed, the outcome may have been very different.

Please, don't be intentionally obtuse. No one believes, nor is anyone saying, that stricter and more restrictive laws will stop all violence. But it will surely lower the incidence. Otherwise, all you're doing is stooging for the gun manufacturers. More violence in the form of arming more people is stupid.

Besides, people will eventually decide that the carnage is not worth the "fun" of guns. Why should innocent people be required to die so that you can shoot squirrels or little paper targets?

[joe]

Say the Truth wrote:

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That's .003 PERCENT of the population. More people die from diarrhea, but that doesn't make for good cable news or hand-wringing Socialist policy- making.

So you want to equate death and injuries to a disease. On this we can agree. Guns, like diarrhea are a disease, in America. All so the small, insecure American male can feel potent and powerful.

A disease. I think you're right.

[joe]

Pittakos wrote:

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Just a few more facts, StT,
89 Americans killed by automobiles every day.
40 of those 89 Americans were killed by automobiles where alcohol was involved.
205 Americans killed by alcohol abuse every day.
1214 Americans killed by tobacco use every day. 134 of those Americans were not smokers but were killed by second hand smoke.
2150 unborn Americans killed every day for convenience.
These figures far exceed the deaths caused by guns yet the libs don't want to talk about these.

How do you equate driving a car, a necessity in America, with a recreational "sport"? Get real, will ya?

[joe]

True or false?

For most of US history, Americans had broad gun rights.

That's false. Until recently, individual gun rights were severely restricted – with NRA support.

[Say the Truth]

joe wrote:

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So you want to equate death and injuries to a disease. On this we can agree. Guns, like diarrhea are a disease, in America. All so the small, insecure American male can feel potent and powerful.
A disease. I think you're right.

You have a disease called liberalism, known medically as Cranial Diarrhea. The promulgation of Liberalism is the cause of our current social ills.

[Say the Truth]

joe wrote:

True or false?
For most of US history, Americans had broad gun rights.
That's false. Until recently, individual gun rights were severely restricted – with NRA support.

Napa Valley kook.

[Say the Truth]

joe wrote:

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How do you equate driving a car, a necessity in America, with a recreational "sport"? Get real, will ya?

You can take public transit.

What you call a "sport," the Founders call a "Right." The Founders were a lot smarter tha you.

[Say the Truth]

Pittakos wrote:

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Just a few more facts, StT,
89 Americans killed by automobiles every day.
40 of those 89 Americans were killed by automobiles where alcohol was involved.
205 Americans killed by alcohol abuse every day.
1214 Americans killed by tobacco use every day. 134 of those Americans were not smokers but were killed by second hand smoke.
2150 unborn Americans killed every day for convenience.
These figures far exceed the deaths caused by guns yet the libs don't want to talk about these.

I saw the same stats, Pitt. Funny how hypocritical Libs are, noting the latter statistic.

[Teddy R]

joe wrote:

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All so the small, insecure American male can feel potent and powerful.

I take it you have a parallel opinion of all those others who may feel insecure - small-framed women living alone and working the night shift, frail elderly folks living in what has become a high-crime neighborhood, minorities, etc...

Your sneering post reeks of superiority, dissing the mere idea that anyone having valid reasons for feeling insecure and wanting to avail themselves of every American's Right to keep and bear arms in self-defense is somehow merely acting out your cartoon fantasies of male penis envy - just so you can sneer at them and feel yourself superior.

Pretty childish, joe. You need to give this issue more serious thought with your mind rather than with whatever other part of your anatomy you're currently thinking about it with. Take some time.

[Teddy R]

joe wrote:

True or false?
For most of US history, Americans had broad gun rights.
That's false. Until recently, individual gun rights were severely restricted – with NRA support.

I'd be interested in seeing whatever authoritative evidence you may have that backs up this interesting claim.

[joe]

Say the Truth wrote:

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You can take public transit.
What you call a "sport," the Founders call a "Right." The Founders were a lot smarter tha you.

The "founders"? Why don't you try reading the 2nd again.

[joe]

Teddy R wrote:

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I'd be interested in seeing whatever authoritative evidence you may have that backs up this interesting claim.

I don't care what you're interested in. Not in the least. You were one of those Rovian predictors of the election, weren't you?

You continually prove that you don't know wtf your talking about. So cut the teeny bopper sarcasm and look it up yourself. My postings are for the well read, those who already know the recent origins of the NRA's latest stance on the 2nd amendment.

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