Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

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President Barack Obama promised Monday to deliver more than 600,000 jobs through his $787 billion stimulus plan this summer, with federal agencies pumping billions into public works projects, schools and summer youth programs.
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joe

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Jan 27, 2013
 
Republican governors are taking advantage of an improving economy and a gradual rebound in revenues to aggressively push for cuts to personal and corporate income taxes, and propose making up the difference by raising sales taxes.

Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a tax scheme that takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy.
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Jan 27, 2013
 
joe wrote:
The result is a tax scheme that takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy.
Are you seriously claiming that the "wealthy" spend less, and therefore pay less sales tax in a year than those with less money to spend pay?

Seriously?

That's the stupidest claim I ever heard.
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Jan 27, 2013
 
Teddy R wrote:
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Are you seriously claiming that the "wealthy" spend less, and therefore pay less sales tax in a year than those with less money to spend pay?
Seriously?
That's the stupidest claim I ever heard.
I'm not interested in your mis-statement of what I said. All you right-wing clowns are way too clever (you think) for your own good.

Strictly for the sake of those who can read and desire information:

Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a tax scheme that takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy.
Teddy R

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Jan 27, 2013
 
joe wrote:
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I'm not interested in your mis-statement of what I said. All you right-wing clowns are way too clever (you think) for your own good.
Strictly for the sake of those who can read and desire information:
Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a tax scheme that takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy.
How exactly have I "mis-stated" your claim?

Quoting you verbatim - you're claiming that under a sales tax, "all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income," (correct - same tax rate on each dollar they SPEND), and that a sales tax "... takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy." Which I reasonably interpret as meaning you are claiming a sales tax extracts more dollars from the pocket of a poor or middle class individual than a wealthy one.

The only way this can be true if if poor and middle class individuals SPEND a larger dollar amount than wealthy individuals do - which is a patently ridiculous claim.

So please do explain how I have "mis-stated" your claim - and while you're at it, please link the authoritative objective evidence that backs up your claim.

Thanks.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
Teddy R wrote:
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How exactly have I "mis-stated" your claim?
Quoting you verbatim - you're claiming that under a sales tax, "all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income," (correct - same tax rate on each dollar they SPEND), and that a sales tax "... takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy." Which I reasonably interpret as meaning you are claiming a sales tax extracts more dollars from the pocket of a poor or middle class individual than a wealthy one.
The only way this can be true if if poor and middle class individuals SPEND a larger dollar amount than wealthy individuals do - which is a patently ridiculous claim.
So please do explain how I have "mis-stated" your claim - and while you're at it, please link the authoritative objective evidence that backs up your claim.
Thanks.
Here's your mis-quote. Like I said, you're a Fox wannabe minion with no ethics or class. You changed the last sentence and purported it to be a quote from me. Small, very small.
Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a perfectly fair tax scheme that takes equally from all.
Here' my quote:
Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a tax scheme that takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy.
And, btw, even dumb people know that $5,000 in annual sales taxes on a subsistence salary of 35-40K a year is not the same as 25, 50 or even 100K would be to a salary of a mil or more. Just because poorly educated tea-partiers and Fox junkies believe your drivel doesn't mean a majority of voters do. Ready for another election? Or must you wait until the party rigs all the battleground states?
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... even dumb people know that $5,000 in annual sales taxes on a subsistence salary of 35-40K a year is not the same as 25, 50 or even 100K would be to a salary of a mil or more.
even dumb people should know that $5,000 in annual sales taxes is $5,000 in annual sales taxes no matter what someone's income is.

Equal.

Now - that's fair.
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Here's your mis-quote. Like I said, you're a Fox wannabe minion with no ethics or class. You changed the last sentence and purported it to be a quote from me. Small, very small.
Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a perfectly fair tax scheme that takes equally from all.
Here' my quote:
Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a tax scheme that takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy.
You beef is with the Correct-O-Bot, not me.

Grow a sense of humor. If you're going to post jokes like this, you should have one.
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joe wrote:
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Here's your mis-quote. Like I said, you're a Fox wannabe minion with no ethics or class. You changed the last sentence and purported it to be a quote from me. Small, very small.
Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a perfectly fair tax scheme that takes equally from all.
Here' my quote:
Sales taxes do not differentiate based on people’s ability to pay. All are equal before the cash register. The Wall Street banker is treated no differently than the lowly paid schoolteacher. Therefore all are required to pay the same tax rate regardless of income. The result is a tax scheme that takes more from the middle class and the poor than the wealthy.
And, btw, even dumb people know that $5,000 in annual sales taxes on a subsistence salary of 35-40K a year is not the same as 25, 50 or even 100K would be to a salary of a mil or more. Just because poorly educated tea-partiers and Fox junkies believe your drivel doesn't mean a majority of voters do. Ready for another election? Or must you wait until the party rigs all the battleground states?
And btw - when your post is plagiarized in the first place ...

http://teapartythreats.blogspot.com/2013/01/g...

... you sound like a little wussy complaining that someone changed "your" words.

GTFO.
joe

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And btw - when your post is plagiarized in the first place ...
http://teapartythreats.blogspot.com/2013/01/g...
... you sound like a little wussy complaining that someone changed "your" words.
GTFO.
Go back to slurping over Fox Snooze, your tea party cell newsletter and your Ayn Rand economics pamphlets. That should keep you out of mischief.
Teddy R

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Go back to slurping over Fox Snooze, your tea party cell newsletter and your Ayn Rand economics pamphlets. That should keep you out of mischief.
Yeh - as expected, and right on schedule. The whine of the Marxist Useful Idiot who's just run dry of progressive leftist class warrior talking points.
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Yeh - as expected, and right on schedule. The whine of the Marxist Useful Idiot who's just run dry of progressive leftist class warrior talking points.
You're such a funny boy.
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You're such a funny boy.
Well, you know how I live to amuse you, joe.
joe

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Well, you know how I live to amuse you, joe.
I know, I know. It could be a yin yang thing.

Complementary and contrasting principles each making up for what the other lacks, and the wholeness of the world would be incomplete if there were a deficiency of either.
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News items:

- Louisiana will eliminate health benefits for hiv patients, poor children, and first time moms this week.

- Wealthy Americans would do better with smaller shares of a rapidly-growing economy than with the large shares they now possess of an economy that’s barely moving.

If they were rational, the wealthy would support public investments in education and job-training, a world-class infrastructure (transportation, water and sewage, energy, internet), and basic research – all of which would make the American workforce more productive.

If they were rational they’d even support labor unions – which have proven the best means of giving working people a fair share in the nation’s prosperity.

- A disturbing trend in the water sector is accelerating worldwide. The new “water barons”--- the Wall Street banks and elitist multibillionaires --- are buying up water all over the world at unprecedented pace. Familiar mega-banks and investing powerhouses such as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, UBS, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, Macquarie Bank, Barclays Bank, the Blackstone Group, Allianz, and HSBC Bank, among others, are consolidating their control over water. Wealthy tycoons such as T. Boone Pickens, former President George H.W. Bush and his family, Hong Kong’s Li Ka-shing, Philippines’ Manuel V. Pangilinan and other Filipino billionaires, and others are also buying thousands of acres of land with aquifers, lakes, water rights, water utilities, and shares in water engineering and technology companies all over the world.
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Jan 29, 2013
 
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Someone that respects the Constitution. Someone that would not approve of running guns into Mexico to blame the 2nd Amendment. Someone that would oppose funding Al Qaeda in Libya while telling US citizens that we should give up Constitutional rights because of the threat of Al Qaeda. Someone that would implement sound economic policy, i.e. not increasing government spending while borrowing 40 cents of every dollar spent, someone that doesn't believe that the right to bear arms is dangerous.
You know... someone sane. But anyone that falls into any of those categories will be demonized by your "media" and immediately dismissed.
Enjoy the financial collapse and subsequent tyranny that you have been cheer leading.
Stop. Think. Wake up...
OK, give a name.
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joe wrote:
News items:
- Louisiana will eliminate health benefits for hiv patients, poor children, and first time moms this week.
Link to source, please. There is obviously more to the story, that you're suppressing for partisan rhetorical purposes.
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- Wealthy Americans would do better with smaller shares of a rapidly-growing economy than with the large shares they now possess of an economy that’s barely moving.
A silly & trivial point.

ALL Americans would do better with ANY share of a rapidly-growing economy than with the shares they now possess of an economy that’s barely moving.

I blame the anti-business, anti-growth, anti-success liberal big-government statists and class warrior/redistributionistas that Americans have been foolish enough to hand over the keys to the US Treasury and federal power.
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If they were rational, the wealthy would support public investments in education and job-training, a world-class infrastructure (transportation, water and sewage, energy, internet), and basic research – all of which would make the American workforce more productive.
Where is your data saying they do not? Link it, please.

Of course, this is not the REAL issue, is it, joe. The REAL issue you are disingenuously trying to hide behind this "public investment" smokescreen is out-of-control SPENDING on ENTITLEMENTS. And that in order to afford these kinds of "public investments" (that do, in fact, enjoy a healthy degree of support from "the wealthy," as you're so pleased to demonize these valuable and productive fellow Americans), out-of-control ENTITLEMENT spending must be radically slashed back.

You strongly support radically slashing back Entitlement spending in order that we can afford to make more of these kinds of "public investments," right, joe?

Not to mention the fact that these kinds of "public investments" are the proper purview of the STATES in the first instance, NOT the federal government, whose main contribution in such endeavors is to extract even more scarce resources out of the productive private economy just to f**k things up even more than if the States were just left to git 'r done without the meddling interference of useless federal hacks and bureaucrats.
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Jan 31, 2013
 
I am looking for in IT...I noticed that it's all about HR process these days you get an interview and you attend the interview HR goes through post interview questions and that's the end of it. Hiring is the last in their minds...This could go on and on ...Me and my husband both are looking for jobs and this is what we go through week in week out....
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"We believe in absolutely gun-free, zero-tolerance, totally safe schools. That means no guns in America's schools, period,"

"Such behavior in our schools should be prosecuted just as certainly as such behavior in our airports is prosecuted,"

-Wayne LaPierre
May 1st, 1999, at the NRA's national convention in Denver
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Jan 31, 2013
 
People have been led to believe that Social Security faces a crisis in funding. When you tell people some proposals for fixing it, they a) overwhelmingly choose to fund it more generously and b) decide that the program actually does not face any sort of crisis at all.

A marketing firm hired by the National Academy of Social Insurance surveyed a random sampling of Americans and discovered that what people want is to raise taxes on rich (and regular!) people in order to fund more Social Security benefits, which is a good idea because the program is currently pretty stingy by international standards and Americans don’t actually have pensions anymore.

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Feb 1, 2013
 
Wait a minute. The unemployment rate went UP. How did that happen? Gotta be that George Bush guy...

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