Community Profile: Rogers Park, Chica...

Community Profile: Rogers Park, Chicago Real Estate

There are 15 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 13, 2008, titled Community Profile: Rogers Park, Chicago Real Estate. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

As owner of a Rogers Park print shop, Kathleen Paluch once printed some T-shirts festooned with the slogan "Made in Rogers Park." When she and her husband Denis traveled, they often wore the shirts, which ...

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Jean SmilingCoyote

Chicago, IL

#1 Nov 14, 2008
The Tribune needs to "get its story straight" on the boundaries of Rogers Park. The map in a related article correctly shows the boundaries of the Community Area called Rogers Park; there are many unofficial neighborhood maps, which differ and change and can confuse people, as well as screw up long-term statistical comparisons. Which is why these Community Areas were established. In fact, the CA called Rogers Park does NOT extend west of Ridge Bl.; this is the domain of the CA called "West Ridge." Western Avenue, Warren Park - that's our turf! If you're going to bleed articles about "Rogers Park" into other CAs, are you going to create the same confusion when you do articles about, say, West Ridge? Can't you just respect the CA boundaries as they are?
Lab

United States

#2 Nov 14, 2008
I used to live at 1415 W. Lunt Avenue. The building has now (finally) been turned into condominiums. There was a large banner on the building advertising condominiums for sale in 1984 when I first rented the apartment on the 5th floor in that building. The management company was very discriminatory towards female heads of household and took an illegal amount of downpayment toward rent "in case you get pregnant." The only reason I accepted the situation is because the spaciousness of the apartment allowed some outsized furniture I owned. Notwithstanding the poor management and maintenance of the building (constant problem with roaches), and the management company entering my suite for no reason without my permission (no emergency such as plumbing, electrical or fire damage) and showing my suite to prospective tenants when it was not the suite available for rent, the location is absolutely wonderful and the overall neighbourhood in 1984 was nice, while it was quite in flux -- old original tenants, newer, very poor people; and "yuppies" moving in looking for good, inexpensive housing with neighbourhood amenities that were abundant. I enjoyed walking the extremely short distance to the El and never needing a winter coat because my office was also a short distance from the El in the Loop. I will never forget the green grocer on Morse Avenue and the butcher on the other side of the bridge just a short bit north of Lunt, nor will I ever forget the dry goods store with the signs requiring one to check packages with the clerks before entering the store which were printed in Cyrilic, nor will I forget the Cyrilic ATM machine at Jewel. I really enjoyed living in the area. One doesn't need a car to do much of anything -- it's all accessible by walking or public transportation.
william

Naperville, IL

#4 Nov 14, 2008
Great Article. One correction: the Jarvis square area is not in the shadow of the morse red line stop. Jarvis square is under the Jarvis stop. You also failed to mention the restaurant Grouppo D' Amici, which serves fantastic italian. (you include it in your photo, but not in the article...it is another example of a great neighborhood establishment that represents the high calibre of many of the businesses in the area)
Duo

Chicago, IL

#6 Nov 14, 2008
Nice Puff Piece. How much did DevCorp and Moore pay you to put it up? Did he make the check out to Sam Zell? Or Tribune Co?

Rogers Park is not safe. It's gladiator school. Fights at Sullivan almost *daily*, muggings, shootings nearly daily.

The sad fact is, when I grew up in Rogers Park, it was reasonably safe. 20 years ago. Now it's a cess pool. Complete with open air drug markets, etc. The day the restaurant next to the Morse el stop was firebombed was the day that openly told many that Rogers Park was no longer under the control of the people who live there.

Moore is a hack, and has ruined a place where many of my memories live. He should be tarred, feathered and strapped to the front of an El car and paraded around the loop as an example of how NOT to run a ward.

If the Tribune really wants to report the news, why not look for the dark underbelly of RP? The part where people openly use the bathroom in public, without a care. Why not look at the crime rate. Why not look at what Moore has NOT done.

As a newspaper, you shouldnt be shilling.
Lontime RoPo resident

Chicago, IL

#7 Nov 14, 2008
Ald. Moore and Kim Bares have lied to us so many times we just don't believe them anymore.
Michael Luckenbach

Chicago, IL

#9 Nov 14, 2008
Where is the comment I posted over 2 hours ago??
Michael Luckenbach

Chicago, IL

#12 Nov 14, 2008
Let's try again.
There are several problems, misstatement of facts and representations in this 'profile' of Rogers Park, my home neighborhood for over 33 years. First and foremost is the geographic area of Rogers Park which is the area East of Ridge Avenue to the lake and Juneway Terrace South to Devon Avenue. As to the general economic and quality of life issues, under the stewardship of Alderman Joe Moore (17 years) and DevCorp North (lead by Kim Bares for the past 8+ years) our main commercial/retail strips (Morse Avenue & Howard Street) have never been in worse condition, with vacant store fronts and criminal elements and activity (drug dealing & use, prostitution and gang-banger violence is rampant) in full operation 24/7. Rogers Park is the ONLY North-side lakefront community to see a DECLINE in property values during April-June 2008: http://nhna.blogspot.com/2008/09/fyi_28.html
As Alderman, Moore has supported and encouraged the ongoing concentration of very low-income, subsidized rental housing in certain areas, and buildings. As a direct result we have seen our retail and residential 'quality of life' decline while street crime and dollar stores thrive. Further, the Alderman has left in his wake a trail of failed projects which were forced on the community and are now vacant lots and eyesores. Yes, while Jarvis Square and the new Morse Theatre developments are very welcome additions to our neighborhood, the facts are that Joe Moore had nothing to do with either. They came about due to the commitment and hard work and cash from local entrepreneurs. We have been promised the street-scape work on Morse and Howard for the past 12 years and it's always 'next summer'. If one wants to see the results of an Alderman's community development success look south to Alderman Mary Ann Smith's 48th Ward where community development and growth is the result of long range planning and true community involvement. Finally, with all it's problems, I do feel Rogers Park is a great place to live, full of committed, responsible and diverse residents. It's to bad we don't have an Alderman who is taking care of the issues that matter to residents.
Fire fan

Crest Hill, IL

#13 Nov 14, 2008
Residents of Rogers Park and West Ridge don't have high standards for their elected officials, that's why they're stuck with Moore and Bernie old-as-Stone. Nice to see the article though. I'm a big fan of Taste - small but a nice thoughtful selection of wine. And the Italian restaurant Grupo di Amici is really good!
Chad

Naperville, IL

#14 Nov 14, 2008
Have they cut down on the goonings?
tom heineman

United States

#15 Nov 14, 2008
Jarvis Square is a great area, but not near the Morse el stip. Jarvis Square, not surprisingly, is by the Jarvis el stop!
Fed Up

Chicago, IL

#16 Nov 16, 2008
Duo wrote:
Nice Puff Piece. gers Park is not safe. It's gladiator school. Fights at Sullivan almost *daily*, muggings, shootings nearly daily.
The sad fact is, when I grew up in Rogers Park, it was reasonably safe. 20 years ago. Now it's a cess pool. Complete with open air drug markets, etc.
If the Tribune really wants to report the news, why not look for the dark underbelly of RP? The part where people openly use the bathroom in public, without a care. Why not look at the crime rate. Why not look at what Moore has NOT done.
As a newspaper, you shouldnt be shilling.
Right on target! I'm sick of hearing how "off beat" and "independent" Rogers Park is. It's turned into a slum and the city has used it as a dumping ground for the overflow of Uptown. Even Uptown has seen improvement over the last 30 years while Rogers Park, overall, has gone down.

And the destruction of Sullivan highschool by the criminal element is a disgrace!
Lets get real

Ridgewood, NY

#17 Nov 19, 2008
The Subhuman savages who infest Uptown, Edgewater and East Rogers Park do not belong on the North Side or in fact anywhere near the lakefront.
BHANU RAVAL

United States

#18 Nov 30, 2008
ROGERS PARK is the real world. You will find here, people from all over the world. We are the real world, here in Rogers park in Chicago.

THANKS,

BHANU RAVAL, WEST ROGERS PARK, CHICAGO.
Ted

Chicago, IL

#19 Mar 30, 2009
Duo wrote:
Nice Puff Piece. How much did DevCorp and Moore pay you to put it up? Did he make the check out to Sam Zell? Or Tribune Co?
Rogers Park is not safe. It's gladiator school. Fights at Sullivan almost *daily*, muggings, shootings nearly daily.
The sad fact is, when I grew up in Rogers Park, it was reasonably safe. 20 years ago. Now it's a cess pool. Complete with open air drug markets, etc. The day the restaurant next to the Morse el stop was firebombed was the day that openly told many that Rogers Park was no longer under the control of the people who live there.
Moore is a hack, and has ruined a place where many of my memories live. He should be tarred, feathered and strapped to the front of an El car and paraded around the loop as an example of how NOT to run a ward.
If the Tribune really wants to report the news, why not look for the dark underbelly of RP? The part where people openly use the bathroom in public, without a care. Why not look at the crime rate. Why not look at what Moore has NOT done.
As a newspaper, you shouldnt be shilling.
Apparently it would be you who hasn't checked the crime stats on the CPD website. Crime is down. Rogers has some trouble spots, but certainly no worse than "hip" or "hot" neighborhoods like Bucktown, Wicker Park, Pilsen, Uptown, Logan Square, etc.

Only it's more diverse, the homes/condos are nicer, and its on the lake.

Far from paradise, but a good city neighborhood getting nicer. I know, I liver there now.
Rev Jackson

San Jose, CA

#20 May 6, 2009
Edgewater is great. Check out this place and compare it to any other lakefront place in Chicago: http://eastpointcondo.com
Ted wrote:
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Apparently it would be you who hasn't checked the crime stats on the CPD website. Crime is down. Rogers has some trouble spots, but certainly no worse than "hip" or "hot" neighborhoods like Bucktown, Wicker Park, Pilsen, Uptown, Logan Square, etc.
Only it's more diverse, the homes/condos are nicer, and its on the lake.
Far from paradise, but a good city neighborhood getting nicer. I know, I liver there now.

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