Scientists say they have proved climate change is real, now mus...

Scientists studying the changing nature of the Earth's climate say they have completed one crucial task - proving beyond a doubt that global warming is real. Full Story
Martix

Kraków, Poland

#7453 Dec 28, 2012
Watch also:

The Great Global Warming Swindle

PHD

Overton, TX

#7454 Dec 28, 2012
Martix wrote:
Watch also:
The Great Global Warming Swindle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ov0WwtPcALEXX
It's a scientific hoax to bilk money from the tax payers.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#7455 Dec 29, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>If you can show me one experimental test of climate change mitigation showing it won't cause more harm than good; I'll support it. Until then, we're talking about snake oil pseudoscience.
Science relies on the scientific method; testing theories. There's never been a test of climate change mitigation; that's how you can know it's a hoax.
"There's never been a test of climate change mitigation; that's how you can know it's a hoax."
Your argument is illogical. It's like saying "There has never been an attempt to control volcanoes, therefore volcanoes do not exist."
PHD

Overton, TX

#7456 Dec 29, 2012
And there has never been a test to change day into night and night into day so it dosen't exist.

“Trust no one in politics.”

Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#7457 Dec 29, 2012
PHD wrote:
And there has never been a test to change day into night and night into day so it dosen't exist.
Indeed. Like the change from night to day the change from global warming to global cooling is far beyond man's control. It is all part of Earth's natural cycle. Much like a pendulum...

Yet the sky is falling chicken littles somehow think they can...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#7458 Dec 29, 2012
uther pendragon wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed. Like the change from night to day the change from global warming to global cooling is far beyond man's control. It is all part of Earth's natural cycle. Much like a pendulum...
Yet the sky is falling chicken littles somehow think they can...
The scientific evidence says with increasing certainty global warming is not natural- we're responsible.

However, feel free to put your grandchildren's future in the hands of Sky TV- what could possibly go wrong?

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#7459 Dec 29, 2012
Fox News, as you call it there.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#7460 Dec 29, 2012
uther pendragon wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed. Like the change from night to day the change from global warming to global cooling is far beyond man's control. It is all part of Earth's natural cycle. Much like a pendulum...
Yet the sky is falling chicken littles somehow think they can...
Not so fast, uther.

Which natural cycle included the manmade greenhouse gas emissions like of last two centuries?

And you call the very people studying the situation you choose to call chicken littles? How nonauthentic of you!
PHD

Overton, TX

#7461 Dec 29, 2012
uther pendragon wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed. Like the change from night to day the change from global warming to global cooling is far beyond man's control. It is all part of Earth's natural cycle. Much like a pendulum...
Yet the sky is falling chicken littles somehow think they can...
Bet you saw that coming. They will all be running in circles trying to catch their own tail. Reminds me of the cat with its tail on fire running in circles until it ran out of gas.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#7462 Dec 29, 2012
Who saw this coming?

Southeast Region:(Information provided by the Southeast Regional Climate Center)
• Mean temperatures in November were below normal across most of the Southeast region, except across Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, where monthly temperatures were between 1 and 3 degrees F (0.5 and 1.6 degrees C) above normal. The greatest departures were found across coastal sections of the Carolinas and Virginia, where monthly temperatures were between 5 and 6 degrees F (2.8 and 3.3 degrees C) below normal. Wilmington, NC (period of record 1870-2012) and Charleston, SC (period of record 1938-2012) recorded their fourth and fifth coldest Novembers on record, respectively. Most other locations across the region were between 3 and 4 degrees F (1.6 and 2.2 degrees C) below normal, except across northern section of Florida, Alabama and South Carolina, and western sections of North Carolina, where monthly temperatures were between 1 and 2 degrees F (0.5 and 1.1 degrees C) below normal. The warmest weather occurred during the first half of the month, with temperatures exceeding 80 degrees F (26.7 degrees C) across parts of Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina from the 3rd to the 5th of the month. Temperatures reached 70 degrees F (21.1 degrees C) as far north as northern Virginia from the 11th to the 13th of the month. A cold spell occurred in between these periods over a large portion of region, with subfreezing temperatures recorded as far south as southern Alabama from the 6th to the 8th of the month. Over 200 daily low maximum temperature records were tied or broken across the region during this three-day period. The coldest weather of the month occurred over Thanksgiving weekend, with subfreezing temperatures recorded as far south as central Florida on the 25th of the month.
PHD

Overton, TX

#7463 Dec 29, 2012
Not you, it passed you by didn’t it.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#7464 Dec 29, 2012
PHD wrote:
Not you, it passed you by didn’t it.
Back at you.

Those of us who can digest science can appreciate what I posted. Don't worry that you're left behind.

Hey you managed to drive away a persistent tina. Good job.
PHD

Overton, TX

#7465 Dec 29, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Back at you.
Those of us who can digest science can appreciate what I posted. Don't worry that you're left behind.
Hey you managed to drive away a persistent tina. Good job.
Well maybe you will get the same message. Post something real the cut and paste thing is old. Sorry it would take you a life time to catch up. Just out of curiosity how many tax dollars do you collect spreading your propaganda?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#7466 Dec 29, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
[]Your argument is illogical. It's like saying "There has never been an attempt to control volcanoes, therefore volcanoes do not exist."
No, you misunderstand the argument. The argument is like saying volcano control has never been demonstrated therefor volcano mitigation is a hoax. I make no argument about climate change or volcanoes, they both exist.

Do you understand now?
PHD

Overton, TX

#7467 Dec 29, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>No, you misunderstand the argument. The argument is like saying volcano control has never been demonstrated therefor volcano mitigation is a hoax. I make no argument about climate change or volcanoes, they both exist.
Do you understand now?
You need to lower your standards much too complicated for them.
Beachbummmmmm

Logan, OH

#7468 Dec 29, 2012
It's real. OK ? Now move on to something more important. Like ??
PHD

Overton, TX

#7469 Dec 29, 2012
Ok show all your work and prove it.Now move on to something simple like???
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#7470 Dec 29, 2012
phudd wrote:
show all your work......
Everyone laughs at phudd, trying to hand out homework.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#7471 Dec 29, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
Who saw this coming?
Southeast Region:(Information provided by the Southeast Regional Climate Center)
• Mean temperatures in November were below normal across most of the Southeast region, except across Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, where monthly temperatures were between 1 and 3 degrees F (0.5 and 1.6 degrees C) above normal. The greatest departures were found across coastal sections of the Carolinas and Virginia, where monthly temperatures were between 5 and 6 degrees F (2.8 and 3.3 degrees C) below normal. Wilmington, NC (period of record 1870-2012) and Charleston, SC (period of record 1938-2012) recorded their fourth and fifth coldest Novembers on record, respectively. Most other locations across the region were between 3 and 4 degrees F (1.6 and 2.2 degrees C) below normal, except across northern section of Florida, Alabama and South Carolina, and western sections of North Carolina, where monthly temperatures were between 1 and 2 degrees F (0.5 and 1.1 degrees C) below normal. The warmest weather occurred during the first half of the month, with temperatures exceeding 80 degrees F (26.7 degrees C) across parts of Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina from the 3rd to the 5th of the month. Temperatures reached 70 degrees F (21.1 degrees C) as far north as northern Virginia from the 11th to the 13th of the month. A cold spell occurred in between these periods over a large portion of region, with subfreezing temperatures recorded as far south as southern Alabama from the 6th to the 8th of the month. Over 200 daily low maximum temperature records were tied or broken across the region during this three-day period. The coldest weather of the month occurred over Thanksgiving weekend, with subfreezing temperatures recorded as far south as central Florida on the 25th of the month.
I may have seen some of your report, as evidenced by my Arctic weather report of Oct 26, in the AGW thread,'Will It, Won't It, Part 3':

The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for five weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel, lower than the last three weeks of dates for 2007 & other recent years, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean as low as -19 degC. Even Dawson, Canada, south of the Arctic Circle & site of a heatwave one month ago, where temperatures were 22+degC, is presently -27degC, THE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE ALMOST HALF THAT BETWEEN BOILING WATER & ICE FORMATION!!

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#7472 Dec 30, 2012
PHD wrote:
You need to lower your standards much too complicated for them.
The scientific method has four steps

1. Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena.

2. Formulation of an hypothesis to explain the phenomena. In physics, the hypothesis often takes the form of a causal mechanism or a mathematical relation.

3. Use of the hypothesis to predict the existence of other phenomena, or to predict quantitatively the results of new observations.

4. Performance of experimental tests of the predictions by several independent experimenters and properly performed experiments.

If the experiments bear out the hypothesis it may come to be regarded as a theory or law of nature (more on the concepts of hypothesis, model, theory and law below). If the experiments do not bear out the hypothesis, it must be rejected or modified. What is key in the description of the scientific method just given is the predictive power (the ability to get more out of the theory than you put in; see Barrow, 1991) of the hypothesis or theory, as tested by experiment. It is often said in science that theories can never be proved, only disproved. There is always the possibility that a new observation or a new experiment will conflict with a long-standing theory.
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/ap...

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