Scientists say they have proved climate change is real, now mus...

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Scientists studying the changing nature of the Earth's climate say they have completed one crucial task - proving beyond a doubt that global warming is real.

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Martix

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Global warming stopped 16 years ago

Met Office quietly admits that there has been no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures since the beginning of 1997, says this article in the Daily Mail.

“This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years.

“The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare, and, until today, it has not been reported.

“This stands in sharp contrast to the release of the previous figures six months ago, which went only to the end of 2010 – a very warm year.

“Ending the data then means it is possible to show a slight warming trend since 1997, but 2011 and the first eight months of 2012 were much cooler, and thus this trend is erased.

Some climate scientists, such as Professor Phil Jones (of Climategate fame), director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, last week dismissed the significance of the plateau, saying that 15 or 16 years is too short a period from which to draw conclusions.

Others disagreed. Professor Judith Curry, who is the head of the climate science department at America’s prestigious Georgia Tech university, told The Mail on Sunday that it was clear that the computer models used to predict future warming were ‘deeply flawed’.

“The most depressing feature of this debate is that anyone who questions the alarmist, doomsday scenario will automatically be labelled a climate change ‘denier’, and accused of jeopardising the future of humanity,” says this excellent article by David Rose.

See entire article, including charts and photos:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl... –chart-prove-it.html
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Russian scientist to alarmists:'Sun heats Earth!'

CHICAGO – A new “Little Ice Age” could begin in just four years, predicted Habibullo Abdussamatov, the head of space research at St. Petersburg’s Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia.

Abdussamatov was speaking yesterday at the Heartland Institute‘s Fourth International Conference on Climate Change in Chicago, which began Sunday and ends today.

The Little Ice Age, which occurred after an era known in scientific circles as the Medieval Warm Period, is typically defined as a period of about 200 years, beginning around 1650 and extending through 1850.

Through 2014 the earth will go through a series of unstable variations in which global temperature will oscillate around the maximum reached in the years 1998-2005.

In 2003-2005, Abdussamatov predicted a reduction of sunspot activity that would reach a new minimum in 2042, resulting in a deep global temperature minimum in the years 2055-2060.

“The observed global warming of the climate of the Earth is not caused by the anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gasses, but by extraordinarily high solar intensity that extended over virtually the entire past century,” Abdussamatov wrote.“Future decrease in global temperature will occur even if anthropogenic ejection of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere rises to record levels.

“Over the past decade, global temperature on the Earth has not increased; global warming has ceased, and already there are signs of the future deep temperature drop.”

Abdussamatov concluded Earth is no longer threatened by the catastrophic global warming forecast by some scientists, since warming passed its peak in 1998-2005.

“The global temperature of the Earth has begun its decrease without limits on the volume of greenhouse gas emissions by industrial developed countries,” he wrote.“Therefore, the implementation of the Kyoto Protocol aimed to rescue the planet from the greenhouse effect should be put off at least 150 years.”

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I posted the AMS statement above. Then this clueless called Martix[sic] posts from the daily.ail (UK).

Sad affairs.
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Human emissions of fossil carbon into the atmosphere and the resulting increase in temperatures may be holding off the next ice age, according to research from Sweden’s University of Gothenburg.

“We are probably entering a new ice age right now,” Lars Franzen, a professor of physical geography at the university, was cited as saying in an online statement today.“However, we’re not noticing it due to the effects of carbon dioxide.”

Franzen and three other researchers calculated how much of Sweden might be covered by peat lands during an interglacial, the period between two ice ages. Peat absorbs carbon from the atmosphere, and the study found that the country’s carbon-sink potential could increase six- to 10-fold, which theoretically might cause a drop in temperatures.

Increased felling of woodlands and expansion of agricultural land, combined with early industrialization, probably halted the so-called Little Ice Age from the 16th to the 18th century, slowing down or even reversing a cooling trend, according to the researchers.

“It’s certainly possible that mankind’s various activities contributed towards extending our ice age interval by keeping carbon dioxide levels high enough,” Franzen said.“Without the human impact, the inevitable progression toward an ice age would have continued.”

The earth experienced at least 30 periods of ice age in the past 3 million years, according to the university. There were no emissions of fossil carbon in earlier interglacial periods, and carbon sequestration in peat lands may have been one of the main reasons why ice age conditions occurred, according to Franzen.

“The spread of peat lands is an important factor,” Franzen said.“If we accept that rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere lead to an increase in global temperature, the logical conclusion must be that reduced levels lead to a drop in temperature.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-08/huma...
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Watch also:

The Great Global Warming Swindle

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
PHD

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Martix wrote:
Watch also:
The Great Global Warming Swindle
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
It's a scientific hoax to bilk money from the tax payers.

“See how you are?”

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>If you can show me one experimental test of climate change mitigation showing it won't cause more harm than good; I'll support it. Until then, we're talking about snake oil pseudoscience.
Science relies on the scientific method; testing theories. There's never been a test of climate change mitigation; that's how you can know it's a hoax.
"There's never been a test of climate change mitigation; that's how you can know it's a hoax."
Your argument is illogical. It's like saying "There has never been an attempt to control volcanoes, therefore volcanoes do not exist."
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And there has never been a test to change day into night and night into day so it dosen't exist.

“Trust no one in politics.”

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PHD wrote:
And there has never been a test to change day into night and night into day so it dosen't exist.
Indeed. Like the change from night to day the change from global warming to global cooling is far beyond man's control. It is all part of Earth's natural cycle. Much like a pendulum...

Yet the sky is falling chicken littles somehow think they can...

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uther pendragon wrote:
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Indeed. Like the change from night to day the change from global warming to global cooling is far beyond man's control. It is all part of Earth's natural cycle. Much like a pendulum...
Yet the sky is falling chicken littles somehow think they can...
The scientific evidence says with increasing certainty global warming is not natural- we're responsible.

However, feel free to put your grandchildren's future in the hands of Sky TV- what could possibly go wrong?

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Fox News, as you call it there.
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uther pendragon wrote:
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Indeed. Like the change from night to day the change from global warming to global cooling is far beyond man's control. It is all part of Earth's natural cycle. Much like a pendulum...
Yet the sky is falling chicken littles somehow think they can...
Not so fast, uther.

Which natural cycle included the manmade greenhouse gas emissions like of last two centuries?

And you call the very people studying the situation you choose to call chicken littles? How nonauthentic of you!
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uther pendragon wrote:
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Indeed. Like the change from night to day the change from global warming to global cooling is far beyond man's control. It is all part of Earth's natural cycle. Much like a pendulum...
Yet the sky is falling chicken littles somehow think they can...
Bet you saw that coming. They will all be running in circles trying to catch their own tail. Reminds me of the cat with its tail on fire running in circles until it ran out of gas.
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Who saw this coming?

Southeast Region:(Information provided by the Southeast Regional Climate Center)
• Mean temperatures in November were below normal across most of the Southeast region, except across Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, where monthly temperatures were between 1 and 3 degrees F (0.5 and 1.6 degrees C) above normal. The greatest departures were found across coastal sections of the Carolinas and Virginia, where monthly temperatures were between 5 and 6 degrees F (2.8 and 3.3 degrees C) below normal. Wilmington, NC (period of record 1870-2012) and Charleston, SC (period of record 1938-2012) recorded their fourth and fifth coldest Novembers on record, respectively. Most other locations across the region were between 3 and 4 degrees F (1.6 and 2.2 degrees C) below normal, except across northern section of Florida, Alabama and South Carolina, and western sections of North Carolina, where monthly temperatures were between 1 and 2 degrees F (0.5 and 1.1 degrees C) below normal. The warmest weather occurred during the first half of the month, with temperatures exceeding 80 degrees F (26.7 degrees C) across parts of Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina from the 3rd to the 5th of the month. Temperatures reached 70 degrees F (21.1 degrees C) as far north as northern Virginia from the 11th to the 13th of the month. A cold spell occurred in between these periods over a large portion of region, with subfreezing temperatures recorded as far south as southern Alabama from the 6th to the 8th of the month. Over 200 daily low maximum temperature records were tied or broken across the region during this three-day period. The coldest weather of the month occurred over Thanksgiving weekend, with subfreezing temperatures recorded as far south as central Florida on the 25th of the month.
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Not you, it passed you by didn’t it.
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PHD wrote:
Not you, it passed you by didn’t it.
Back at you.

Those of us who can digest science can appreciate what I posted. Don't worry that you're left behind.

Hey you managed to drive away a persistent tina. Good job.
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SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Back at you.
Those of us who can digest science can appreciate what I posted. Don't worry that you're left behind.
Hey you managed to drive away a persistent tina. Good job.
Well maybe you will get the same message. Post something real the cut and paste thing is old. Sorry it would take you a life time to catch up. Just out of curiosity how many tax dollars do you collect spreading your propaganda?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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[]Your argument is illogical. It's like saying "There has never been an attempt to control volcanoes, therefore volcanoes do not exist."
No, you misunderstand the argument. The argument is like saying volcano control has never been demonstrated therefor volcano mitigation is a hoax. I make no argument about climate change or volcanoes, they both exist.

Do you understand now?
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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>No, you misunderstand the argument. The argument is like saying volcano control has never been demonstrated therefor volcano mitigation is a hoax. I make no argument about climate change or volcanoes, they both exist.
Do you understand now?
You need to lower your standards much too complicated for them.
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It's real. OK ? Now move on to something more important. Like ??

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