“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#21 Feb 13, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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I never said they couldn't. But with certain things, little kids do better with an actual thing they can hold and touch. Frankly, your refusal to admit anything should exist outside of a computer screen is getting annoying.
And you have how much experience with little kids? When you have kids, you are more than welcome to give them as much paper as you want. You think a paper photo album is better for kids? Great. Have at it. I see more benefit in a living album that always has something new for them to look at vs a paper album that looks the same every day. This guy is trying to maintain an ongoing connection with his kids. Online album is a more effective tool to that end than opening the same book every day.

You're annoyed by my fondness for hi tech vs low tech? Boo hoo. How will I make it thru the day knowing I annoyed edogg?

Since: Jan 10

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#22 Feb 13, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Of course, you would know better than I.
I absolutely would. I have been caring for young children from age 10 until STILL TODAY. Including long weekends with overnight stays and getting kids off to day care. I am around kids under the age of two at least once a week. I discuss parenting and child rearing with friends. I have friends who ask for my advice -- they didn't babysit, and this is their first experience caring for a baby or toddler, whereas I have much more experience in it.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#23 Feb 13, 2013
You wont!
You will wind up sticking your head in an oven and gassing yourself!

Nice knowing ya.

Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> How will I make it thru the day knowing I annoyed edogg?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#24 Feb 13, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>And you have how much experience with little kids? When you have kids, you are more than welcome to give them as much paper as you want. You think a paper photo album is better for kids? Great. Have at it. I see more benefit in a living album that always has something new for them to look at vs a paper album that looks the same every day. This guy is trying to maintain an ongoing connection with his kids. Online album is a more effective tool to that end than opening the same book every day.
You're annoyed by my fondness for hi tech vs low tech? Boo hoo. How will I make it thru the day knowing I annoyed edogg?
Do you ever buy your children toys, or just show them pictures of one on the internet?
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#25 Feb 13, 2013
Kids did just fine with picture albums since photography became prevalent.
Some still play with dolls and blocks and crayons and other things that don't need batteries. They read real books too.

Newer is not always better.

Why aren't you guys bickering over sending teh kid a disc of Dad's home movies vs posting on YouTube which at least has teh advantage of using reasonably similar technology?
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#26 Feb 13, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Yeah, because 5 and 7 yr olds are absolute Rembrandts when it comes to navigating online photos.
Sometimes, tonks, an actual, physical "thing" is a better option.
Young children can do lots of things you can't. Navigate a computer. Hold a meaningful conversation. Contribute to society. Go to the bathroom by themselves.

Seriously, 5 and 7 year olds are quite capable of using a computer and programs like Skype and such. That is the direction things are heading. To purposefully stunt their growth in that regard would be ignorant. Sure, ure "real" things when it makes sense, but don't deny technology for the sake of denying it.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#27 Feb 13, 2013
PEllen wrote:
Kids did just fine with picture albums since photography became prevalent.
Some still play with dolls and blocks and crayons and other things that don't need batteries. They read real books too.
Newer is not always better.
Why aren't you guys bickering over sending teh kid a disc of Dad's home movies vs posting on YouTube which at least has teh advantage of using reasonably similar technology?
Older isn't better just because it's older. THe kids I know who use technology ALSO play with toys, dolls, coloring books.
Stina

Saint Petersburg, FL

#28 Feb 13, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Older isn't better just because it's older. THe kids I know who use technology ALSO play with toys, dolls, coloring books.
The best is a little of both! My daughter has a Kindle,but she still reads paperback novels. She plays computer games, btu we still play board games. Rides an electric scooter and has a non-electric one, too.

I just hate to see everything be computerized because you don't always have access to that and it's not so easy on the eyes. Also, not everything needs to be "instant" (as much as I hate to admit it).

My daughter started writing to a girl I met that was her age out in CA. They are now pen pals. Literally. They snail mail each other. It's fun to see how excited she gets when she gets a letter!

Since: Dec 07

DuPage County

#29 Feb 13, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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If people are gonna make blatant falsehoods, they should expect to be called out on it.
Blatant falsehoods? I don't....oh never mind. You get enough people piling on your statements on a daily basis, so I'll just laugh and say, "Sure."

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#30 Feb 13, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Older isn't better just because it's older. THe kids I know who use technology ALSO play with toys, dolls, coloring books.
this.

my mom comes to my house and tells us my kids have too many toys. And she's right.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#31 Feb 13, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I absolutely would. I have been caring for young children from age 10 until STILL TODAY. Including long weekends with overnight stays and getting kids off to day care. I am around kids under the age of two at least once a week. I discuss parenting and child rearing with friends. I have friends who ask for my advice -- they didn't babysit, and this is their first experience caring for a baby or toddler, whereas I have much more experience in it.
And I've never been around children in my life! I was never even a child myself!

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#32 Feb 13, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
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but don't deny technology for the sake of denying it.
"Purposefully stunt, deny for the sake of denying..."? What the hell are you quiefing about?

Kids get far more brain stimulation by drawing and coloring a picture on paper with crayons than they do looking at a picture on a computer screen.

But of course, that automatically translates into me thinking computers and the internet should be banned.

Wow, you're a piece of work.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#33 Feb 13, 2013
LW2 - if iwere this LW, i'd be tempted to walk over and say smoethign, not sure what, but something along the lines of "as an attorney, i find your over-sharing of information interesting. Thanks for the tip on where to find new clients" and just walk away.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#34 Feb 13, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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And I've never been around children in my life! I was never even a child myself!
Being "around" kids is not the same as providing ongoing care, alone, without their parents around.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#35 Feb 13, 2013
His mind is a very scary place...
Saluki Rod wrote:
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Blatant falsehoods? I don't....oh never mind. You get enough people piling on your statements on a daily basis, so I'll just laugh and say, "Sure."
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#36 Feb 13, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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"Purposefully stunt, deny for the sake of denying..."? What the hell are you quiefing about?
Kids get far more brain stimulation by drawing and coloring a picture on paper with crayons than they do looking at a picture on a computer screen.
But of course, that automatically translates into me thinking computers and the internet should be banned.
Wow, you're a piece of work.
Show me where I said you said computers should be banned. Show me. Waiting. I guess we'll add "reading" to the list of things children do better than you.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#37 Feb 13, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>And you have how much experience with little kids? When you have kids, you are more than welcome to give them as much paper as you want. You think a paper photo album is better for kids? Great. Have at it. I see more benefit in a living album that always has something new for them to look at vs a paper album that looks the same every day. This guy is trying to maintain an ongoing connection with his kids. Online album is a more effective tool to that end than opening the same book every day.
You're annoyed by my fondness for hi tech vs low tech? Boo hoo. How will I make it thru the day knowing I annoyed edogg?
His experience with kids extends not much beyond "Hey, you want some candy? It's o.k., go ahead, get in."
Kuuipo

Monterey, CA

#38 Feb 13, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
L1: I despise parents like LW's ex. Yes, despise. You think your job opportunity elsewhere is so important? YOU move, leave the kids with the other parent who wasn't trying to separate the kids from their other parent.
Dude: Move to where they live. They will need you even more as they get older and become adolescents and teenagers. Their mom has lousy judgment, soyou'll need to be there for them. Move.
I can't say enough how much I hate that so many states still give primary custody to the mother by default, including my state. It's insulting to FATHERS.
I have a friend in this situation, and I feel sorry for him because his options are very limited. His son is 5 years old. His ex is in the military and is stationed 1700 miles away. She was even farther away prior to her most recent move. She has another child by her new husband. He works in his family's struggling business and takes only 2 weeks vacation per year. It would be very difficult for him to move and she moves where and when Uncle Sam tells her to move. Money is tight for both of them. So he Skypes with his child at the same time every day and spends his vacation with him in the summer. Hopefully, when his son is a little older, he can fly out and spend the entire summer with his dad.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#39 Feb 13, 2013
Kuuipo wrote:
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I have a friend in this situation, and I feel sorry for him because his options are very limited. His son is 5 years old. His ex is in the military and is stationed 1700 miles away. She was even farther away prior to her most recent move. She has another child by her new husband. He works in his family's struggling business and takes only 2 weeks vacation per year. It would be very difficult for him to move and she moves where and when Uncle Sam tells her to move. Money is tight for both of them. So he Skypes with his child at the same time every day and spends his vacation with him in the summer. Hopefully, when his son is a little older, he can fly out and spend the entire summer with his dad.
Poor guy. I know not everyone CAN move, but I've dated men who moved here to MN only because their ex moved here with their kid. It wasn't easy for them (and what if they have an underwater house and can't sell and move?).

At least with skype/internet and instant messaging,p arents can have easier and cheaper communication with their kids, and keep a relationship going so when the kid is an adult, things will be better.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#40 Feb 13, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Being "around" kids is not the same as providing ongoing care, alone, without their parents around.
No kidding?

Right, I'm not permitted to have any opinion on child-rearing because I don't happen to actually have a child myself.

Intelligence and common sense, plus being raised up myself, does not allow me any input whatsoever.

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