Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 61107 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48890 Jul 15, 2014
Mothra wrote:
Ahh the start of another week.
Let's count how many posts the warmists make adding more CO2 to the atmosphere that according to their touted 'science' is already at "crisis" levels.
And then let's see how many of them even attempt to justify their blatant hypocrisy.
I predict hundreds for the first, and zero for the second.
Just a quick update....

It would seem that Spaceballs is trying to prove he's not a hypocrite... hardly a word from him on this thread.

But what about this one?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/activism/TAUF...

Or this?
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...

Or these?
http://www.topix.com/forum/drink/T9Q7JSSSBKPP...
http://www.topix.com/forum/business/food-scie...
http://www.topix.com/forum/energy/alt-energy/...
http://www.topix.com/forum/energy/alt-energy/...

I do love holding warmists accountable to their own 'science'. Especially the "settled" "consensus" type.

LOL

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#48891 Jul 15, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Those soulless markets feed and clothe people far more efficiently than government for all their good intentions.
Markets and corporations are free associations of people. They are workers, consumers, vendors, investors and managers. If the market can't solve man made climate change, it wasn't a problem in the first place.
There is no such entity as a free market. The Market is not a Democracy it is only a means of exchanging goods and services. For example, if society by a large majority wants illegal drugs regulated the government must attempt to do so, the market will not. Likewise, the market does not effectively curb pollution.
paddyomalley

Bastrop, TX

#48892 Jul 15, 2014
HMT 123 Observatory wrote:
Hi all,
I don't normally chime in here, but this is a strange perspective on global warming: It's 5:30 AM and i've had to turn on the furnace twice in the last 4 hours to warm and dry the air. The Temperature is around
68 F. yet it's so humid that water condenses on me as if i'm sweating while I sleep or even sit stil. Now here's the strange part, i'm in
Hemet CA which is one of the hottest and driest places in SoCal during the summer. If I were to go outside and just sit still long enough I would
get badly chilled from the incredibly high humidity. if i were to walk
to the store I would be soaked with sweat..
How odd. It is 69 Degrees in Hemet with 73% humidity, 83 and 49% humid in Palm Springs, 87 and 46% in Phoenix, and in Central Texas it is 77 degrees 95% humid and I've been out working and it feels great, just don't give me 95 and 60%. It all looks normal to me, so please don't try to sell me the sky is falling, Henny Penny. You think the humidity is tied to Global Warming? The driest place on earth is the Atacama Desert in Chile and it has fog that blows in from the Pacific. At any rate the relative humidity forecast for Hemet beginning today (7-23) thru 7-24 is 48%-44-60-58-52-47-40-32-28(7- 23) and finishing on 7-24 with 35%.
( http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx... ) No climatologists seem alarmed, so maybe you should give Algored a holler, eh? If I get the rain expected today, by humidity will be cut in half and in August it diminishes into 40% in the morning and 25% in the PM.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48893 Jul 15, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
The market like corporations have no soul. They are not people.
I realize this is doubtful, but if you ever fall into wealth (it won't be earned), you'll be amazed at how much soul you have.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48894 Jul 15, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a quick update....
It would seem that Spaceballs is trying to prove he's not a hypocrite... hardly a word from him on this thread.
But what about this one?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/activism/TAUF...
Or this?
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...
Or these?
http://www.topix.com/forum/drink/T9Q7JSSSBKPP...
http://www.topix.com/forum/business/food-scie...
http://www.topix.com/forum/energy/alt-energy/...
http://www.topix.com/forum/energy/alt-energy/...
I do love holding warmists accountable to their own 'science'. Especially the "settled" "consensus" type.“Heartland has been promoting disinformation about climate, and before that about tobacco, for more than two decades. It is usually based on misrepresenting factual information, or cherry picking data in misleading ways. It is almost never consistent with what actual scientific or biomedical researchers have to say about these matters.

LOL
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48895 Jul 15, 2014
Wow..

“Heartland has been promoting disinformation about climate, and before that about tobacco, for more than two decades. It is usually based on misrepresenting factual information, or cherry picking data in misleading ways. It is almost never consistent with what actual scientific or biomedical researchers have to say about these matters."

"What Heartland did with some information from the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration can charitably be called distortion."

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#48897 Jul 15, 2014
HMT 123 Observatory wrote:
Hi all,
I don't normally chime in here, but this is a strange perspective on global warming: It's 5:30 AM and i've had to turn on the furnace twice in the last 4 hours to warm and dry the air. The Temperature is around
68 F. yet it's so humid that water condenses on me as if i'm sweating while I sleep or even sit stil. Now here's the strange part, i'm in
Hemet CA which is one of the hottest and driest places in SoCal during the summer. If I were to go outside and just sit still long enough I would
get badly chilled from the incredibly high humidity. if i were to walk
to the store I would be soaked with sweat..
I suspect the rise in humidity are the climate clowns sweating it out to the reality of science and facts running amok over them. Plus, their hoax is losing popularity since the internet can reveal the TRUE science of weather.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48898 Jul 15, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Jibberish.

You post, creating CO2, then kvetch about increasing CO2.

What a dupe.

Keep posting... you make a fool of yourself with each one.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48900 Jul 15, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Wow..
“Heartland has been promoting disinformation about climate, and before that about tobacco, for more than two decades. It is usually based on misrepresenting factual information, or cherry picking data in misleading ways. It is almost never consistent with what actual scientific or biomedical researchers have to say about these matters."
"
ooo... a quote from Naomi Oreskes... yeah there's someone objective.

Get lost dupe.

and btw, your post added more CO2 into the atmosphere. Is it a "crisis" or not?
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48901 Jul 15, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Thanks for the link:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

Now everyone can track your hypocrisy as you post and post and post all about that evil CO2... knowing full well you're adding to it with each one.

What a dupe.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#48902 Jul 15, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
I realize this is doubtful, but if you ever fall into wealth (it won't be earned), you'll be amazed at how much soul you have.
First of all, you have no idea how much wealth I have. Second, I have earned it by hard work and conserving. Third, I am not from the "I got mine" crowd as you seem to be. I understand that my opportunities came from a social order that allowed me to succeed. No man is an island. However, my investments still have no soul nor does the market or corporations.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#48903 Jul 15, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the link:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
Now everyone can track your hypocrisy as you post and post and post all about that evil CO2... knowing full well you're adding to it with each one.
What a dupe.
Makes no difference who said it, Heartland deliberately or stupidly, has inaccurately characterized and misrepresented the information and what it shows. It could not be part of an agenda could it, whackadoodle? You accuse others of attacking the messenger, here you show your hypocrisy.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48904 Jul 15, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, you have no idea how much wealth I have. Second, I have earned it by hard work and conserving. Third, I am not from the "I got mine" crowd as you seem to be. I understand that my opportunities came from a social order that allowed me to succeed. No man is an island. However, my investments still have no soul nor does the market or corporations.
Well, then you're a hypocrite. You're the consummate liberal. You've got great and humane suggestions for everyone. Everyone but yourself.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48905 Jul 15, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Makes no difference who said it, Heartland deliberately or stupidly, has inaccurately characterized and misrepresented the information and what it shows. It could not be part of an agenda could it, whackadoodle? You accuse others of attacking the messenger, here you show your hypocrisy.
Actually to rely on the first author of the "97% consensus" argument is very relevant.

But on point, "The patterns show a rise followed by a drop, another rise, and then a drop. Over the period show, six years saw temperatures above normal; only three years saw lower than normal temperatures."

Take a look at his graph... note the rate of decrease over three years compared to that of increases over five? Is it not curious that warmists have for years argued (when convenient) that it's the 'rate of increase' that's significant when evaluating temperature changes, but in this critique, they're mum? Three large decreases trumped five small increases.

"Technically, yes, the stations showed a slight end-to-end drop over the time they’ve run. Even the statement that there is 10 years of data is misleading. According to NOAA, the first USCRN station was commissioned in January 2004. The final one was installed in 2008. But let’s ignore that for the moment."

Ignore it for the moment? More accurately, ignore it completely.

Too bad warmists haven't learned from "Mike's nature trick" of splicing temperature records together then claiming Ta-da!, it's proven.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#48906 Jul 15, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually to rely on the first author of the "97% consensus" argument is very relevant.
But on point, "The patterns show a rise followed by a drop, another rise, and then a drop. Over the period show, six years saw temperatures above normal; only three years saw lower than normal temperatures."
Take a look at his graph... note the rate of decrease over three years compared to that of increases over five? Is it not curious that warmists have for years argued (when convenient) that it's the 'rate of increase' that's significant when evaluating temperature changes, but in this critique, they're mum? Three large decreases trumped five small increases.
"Technically, yes, the stations showed a slight end-to-end drop over the time they’ve run. Even the statement that there is 10 years of data is misleading. According to NOAA, the first USCRN station was commissioned in January 2004. The final one was installed in 2008. But let’s ignore that for the moment."
Ignore it for the moment? More accurately, ignore it completely.
Too bad warmists haven't learned from "Mike's nature trick" of splicing temperature records together then claiming Ta-da!, it's proven.
Explain this, whackadoodle.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/F...
Where is the cooling?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
This shows the trend over decades. Where is the cooling?

Well, I suppose that those evil scientists throughout the entire world have spiked the data and only Anthony Watts knows the real facts. LOL, This reeks of a colossal conspiracy to do what???? Just another place for the teabag mentality to polarize and hate those who are smarter than them.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48907 Jul 15, 2014
Anthony Watts attended Purdue University.[9][10] According to writer John Grant, there is no record of him graduating and he has been unwilling to discuss his education.[11][wikipedia]

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#48908 Jul 15, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, then you're a hypocrite. You're the consummate liberal. You've got great and humane suggestions for everyone. Everyone but yourself.
You seem to be good at name calling. Perhaps you could be so kind to explain how you came to such a conclusion! I was a staunch Republican before the Reagan years and the subsequent destruction of the middle class. Of course the teabags believe that anyone left of Limbaugh is a liberal. I am really an independent but no other party can get any traction. Big money and cronyism seem to control the political process today. The Reps buy into that today.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48909 Jul 15, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to be good at name calling. Perhaps you could be so kind to explain how you came to such a conclusion! I was a staunch Republican before the Reagan years and the subsequent destruction of the middle class. Of course the teabags believe that anyone left of Limbaugh is a liberal. I am really an independent but no other party can get any traction. Big money and cronyism seem to control the political process today. The Reps buy into that today.
I call 'em as I see 'em. I see a liar. You see the party line. An honest person would join the party best suited to his principles. Not its popularity. You're a dyed in the wool liberal/progressive/democrat trying to wear the mantle of a moderate.
litesong

Everett, WA

#48910 Jul 15, 2014
mudbuilder wrote:
I see a liar.....liberal/progressive/d emocrat
I see a sleepy sleazy slimy steenking reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig & toxic topix AGW denier liar with no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra or pre-calc in a poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
No Warming

Newark, OH

#48911 Jul 15, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
And exactly how did you come to this whackie conclusion?
If you believe you're entitled to someone else's money find another method, this hand it over or we are all going to die routine is tiresome. Breaking into homes and businesses might be a start, people with money are crooks in your book.

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